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A day in the life of naval officers living in a vessel hidden deep within ocean waters.
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24 years best adventure I ever had and I miss it every day.
@TheCycoloco
3 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm glad I picked SECF
@austinjames9633
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCycoloco Enjoy subschool, met a lot of good people and had a lot of good times.
@charliealfaromeolima5376
3 жыл бұрын
Youre not wrong
@nckoes
3 жыл бұрын
My son just left for Navy Basic on Sept 8. He had a 2 week quarantine so we haven't heard from him yet. He's going sub. Pretty cool that Rotten Groton is only 90 minutes away. Can't wait to see him. Nice that there are so many comments on these videos from people who have loved their time under the sea.
@Immariolopez
3 жыл бұрын
I wish I stayed in
The importance of the onboard cook/chef cannot be overstated. In such a confinement, a hot, fresh-made meal is what keeps morale up!
@michaelweston409
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
I'm a US Navy submarine veteran, I served from August 2001 to December 2010, and five of those years was on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 as an Electronics Technician. Shout-out to all my fellow submariners - both the US Navy and other countries' navies who are out there - whether on active duty, veterans (like myself), or retirees. I'm proud to be a submariner. ETV2 (SS) Scroggins
@skullettrump3424
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service sir is it true that the food is pretty good?
@peeweegnome8977
4 жыл бұрын
Having spent 4 years in a fast attack well done bubblehead
@MrDeenav16
3 жыл бұрын
what did they call you , i doubt it was scroggins. 16 years ,still going, 3 boats
@joserizal1158
3 жыл бұрын
So ur in blue or gold crew undersea submerge patrol for months. Thanks for ur service!
@music4ever1981
3 жыл бұрын
@@skullettrump3424 I appreciate your compliment, and you're right about the food.
Imagine getting an Xbox ping from the middle of the ocean
@lft3254
5 жыл бұрын
TDLF they’re playing modern warfare 1/2 btw
@norap2795
5 жыл бұрын
No wifi
@user-yg2up4lg3r
5 жыл бұрын
You can only play game systems at certain times. Anything with vibration is limited at special times.
@americanprepper6759
5 жыл бұрын
*Gamers want to know your location*
@voteZDLR
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-yg2up4lg3r Anything with vibration you say? That might be a dealbreaker to some of those don't ask don't tell types LOL
That six hours sleep a night is a fallacy. You were lucky to get 2 or 3. We constantly ran drills and when you're a nub you have to qualify. You get used to the lack of sleep and once you get your dolphins you have more responsibility. I wouldn't trade my submarine experience for a million bucks. Hated it and loved it !
@louisauto2071
6 жыл бұрын
He only mentioned 18 hours of the day though.
@TheTRAINOR11
6 жыл бұрын
its definitely different. had to adapt to survive. if we dont do our job we die.
@TheTRAINOR11
6 жыл бұрын
Robert Evans once you sign, thats your behind. not easy
@margmoe
6 жыл бұрын
Louis Auto their day is 18 hours. Not 24.
@happyjohn354
6 жыл бұрын
do they still do that thing where when you qualify all the other sailors punch you in the silver dolphins until at the end of the day its a bleeding bruise behind it because the pins do through the plastic nubs on the back...
Indonesia just lost 53 heroes in Nanggala 402's sub couple days ago (subsunk). They're on eternal patrol now. I came here to see how it's like to live in sub. It's very difficult. They're strong person indeed. Respect to all the submariners all over the world. 🙏
@PrashantSharma-ve1um
3 жыл бұрын
Yup even its very conjusted space in submarine.....on ships u can roam freeley but in submarines....u cannot roam easily.....once i just thought of cleaning my house water storage tank as it had been filled with mud....from water....as sson as i entered into the empty tank....I felt suffocating....then I came out ....& Called professional who used 2 clean the tank...ge adviced me not to enter into small spaces...
@hendraenhawe7063
3 жыл бұрын
and they got iron poisoning after some years
There’s a old military joke about submariners: 100 men go in 50 couples come out.
@bo64625
5 жыл бұрын
whats long, hard and full of seamen?
@thiccboicoconut1618
5 жыл бұрын
What if there is a 3some
@PeterGriffinluckythereafamguy
5 жыл бұрын
Dam
@tstan9713
4 жыл бұрын
That's the navy in general
@Gg-qx3vo
4 жыл бұрын
😏
my grandpa was working for russian submarine for 20 years..RIP grandpa i m so proud of you
@josh7.62
2 жыл бұрын
Did he meet Pavel?
I was in Naval Aviation and the Submarine guys used to laugh at us and say "I would never be in aviation because what goes up must come down sometimes with a crash" We had an old CPO put them in their place when he told them "Yes that is true but dont you guys in the silent service ever think that what goes down dont always have to come back up?"
Rewarding and proud of my service. The proudest accomplishment was being awarded the Gold Boomer Pin after completing 20 Deterrent Patrols on board 4 Separate Submarines. Retired in 2003, after completing 24 Patrols. The finest group of men I ever served with in the Navy were my fellow Submariners
@scotmandel6699
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service and to all current and former members of the Armed Forces.
I was on the USS Michigan SSBN 727 (B). You never got 6 hours of sleep your first run or 2. You're on 18 hour days. 6 is for watch and the other 12 is for quals, drills and sleep. As a "nub" (non-useful body) you were lucky to get 3-4 hours of sleep. Once you get used to it though, you love it. The camaraderie and teamwork is something I'll never forget. I remember drawing ship service hydraulics from memory and rattling off the firing order of the diesel. Smelling like amine, good times.
Did this for 28 years mostly on attack subs. Sleep deprivation was probably the biggest thing I hated. It just gets worse as you go up in rank too with ever more things to impact your "off watch" time.
The surface Navy in the 80's was so chill, had a great time, seriously!!!!! For the record, I was a Boatswain's Mate on 3 different Warships, on both coasts! Ten years active service! :)
@yanni2112
5 жыл бұрын
12 years 3 ships outta San Diego, 1 of which was the sub tender Uss Dixon. last 4 as an Instructor at Great Lakes. 1981-93 thanks for your service Bro! mm2 Patrick
@SoapinTrucker
4 жыл бұрын
@@yanni2112 back at ya shipmate! 😎👍
I still don't understand why the Navy would sleep deprive its own sailors. The human mind is much less effective in a sleep deprived state and in an emergency that could cost lives. The cost of giving them 8hrs a day to sleep is tiny compared to the increased productivity if everyone is well rested.
@casimirkulikowski5949
Жыл бұрын
I’m not saying I agree with it but the reason they do it is because in a combat scenario you won’t be getting much sleep at all so if you train with little sleep the transition won’t be as harsh because your already used to it
@assassinaria
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I have worked a night shift job with a similar rotational pattern. The difficulty doesn't just come from the few hours of sleep, but from the rotating TIMES. If you're asleep on your 6 hour off-time, that means someone is awake working. I'm not sure if the Navy keeps certain people on perpetual night shifts, but I think it would be easier on their bodies, especially with little sleep, if they do.
@JJunkAFunk
Жыл бұрын
They studied sleep and were able to get a full night in 6 hours.
@APOYS
11 ай бұрын
They are not necessarily sleep deprived. Their cycle is 18h instead of 24h. They can sleep 1/3 of that cycle if they want to, which is equivalent to 8h of other our cycle
@crazyvoid8002
11 ай бұрын
13 yr ago there dum
I wish nat geo still made documentaries like these
@thomaspaine7098
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they realized there’s more stupid people then smart people and documentaries don’t attract them
Qualified on the old diesels in the late 50's. Did the same on a nuclear fast attack in the early 60's and then went to the boomers. Yes I am old. I wish I could do it all over again. Diesels and fast attacks were fun and exciting doing sneaky spy stuff. Boomers were critical during the cold war but it was kind of boring cruising around at 4 knots in the middle of the ocean waiting to blow up the world. I envy all the young men that are going to sea on these exciting missions.
@mrmatt5644
4 жыл бұрын
Dont see how yall did it on those diesels. My dad was on diesels i was on a boomer. Cant imagine a smaller boat. Hats off 2 u
it’s amazing that anyone is able to do this. they also get little to no personal space. no sub nowadays is as cramped as the wwii subs were though, although at least they got to surface every couple days.
@kellymc239
3 жыл бұрын
You have, obviously, never served on a nuke boat. The main two types are; fast attacks, and boomers. If you think subs are 'cramped', try this on for size. A boomer has enough room to jog around the missile tubes. A fast attack has 3 decks. Your 'wonderful' WWII boats were single decked, loud (twin diesels, when top-side) and reeked of oil. These boats have great food, showers, laundry facilities, and HVAC. Did your WWII boats have any of that? Now, go speak with a recruiter, take your ASVAB's, choose a rating, sign your papers, get through boot, deploy on a tour, get your 'fish' (pass your dolphin qual's), THEN you can compare old vs new subs.
@williamhendrix3253
3 жыл бұрын
Kelly MC Ive watched this video and I’ve been inside a wwii boat before. So I think that qualifies me enough to comment on a video. Wasn’t aware I needed to pass a test to make a youtube comment. Will check with you first next time.
@kotorandcorvid4968
Жыл бұрын
@@williamhendrix3253 Don't let jerks bother you
@assassinaria
Жыл бұрын
@@kellymc239 He literally said what you just said. You've an IQ of 70.
Rest In Peace KRI NANGGALA 402❤️
“Headache, nausea, and even death” Sounds like every drug commercial ever
Isn't it comforting knowing that those who man the means to launch nuclear missiles are all sleep deprived. {sarcasm}
@garudaboy8372
6 жыл бұрын
Who isn’t tired on the job
@dondavis7687
6 жыл бұрын
About as comforting as knowing the ER Doctor who’s about to do emergency surgery works 24 Hour shifts!
@MasterMayhem78
6 жыл бұрын
At least they have video games 😁
@ryang2573
6 жыл бұрын
Launching missiles might not ever happen. Sleep deprived people drive the multi-billion dollar ship every day.
@user-sl6zh6zh3z
5 жыл бұрын
Most nuclear war head are in the possession of the Air force nowadays.
I would’ve failed the test on purpose. Life looks miserable on the sub. Respect to those dolphins!
@Ghoosier
Жыл бұрын
No kidding, I’ll take flight duty anyday
Indonesia is mourning as we just lost 53 sailors from a missing submarine 😢
@paulwashington98e
Жыл бұрын
Hi there? Hope you're fine & staying safe??
I made five FBM patrols and an overhaul in the 60's.........most rewarding thing I have done in my life........
@johnglow2789
7 жыл бұрын
thank you for your service sir
@adriankepler5254
6 жыл бұрын
Jesus your old, but thank out
@music4ever1981
6 жыл бұрын
robert kelleher From one submariner to another, thank you for your service! I did eight strategic deterrent patrols on the USS PENNSYLVANIA SSBN 735 from October 2002 to October 2007 as a Navigation Electronics Technician. I'm always honored to meet another submariner - even if it's on KZread. Considering you were on an FBM class submarine, the type of submarine you served on was a precursor to the type I served on, an SSBN. Again, thank you for your service, my fellow submarine brother. ET2(SS) Scroggins
@sofakinggood1894
6 жыл бұрын
I drove 3 fast boats and did 2 patrols from 89 to 97...best ride in the navy!
@maxsdad538
3 жыл бұрын
If you were ever on patrol over the North Atlantic (GIUK gap), I may have tracked you a time or two. When I wasn't flying on the EC-121 (USAF, same thing as your WV), I was working OPCON for CINCLANT at NAS Keflavic.
Give me one ping, and one ping only...
@walkmanmash6776
3 жыл бұрын
Aye, Captain. (PIIINNGG)
@templarrising6299
3 жыл бұрын
The hunt for Red October
These are special people doing a difficult job. Hats off to you all.
Rip Nanggala 402. Thank you for your service 🙏
I'll loose my mind in there I gotta b on land God bless u guys
When the ship goes down, you gotta be ready! These people are amazeballs
this was more about chemistry than submarine quads
@davecrupel2817
6 жыл бұрын
Luingiorno Jasanpahaf fine by me :)
@Natt15110031
6 жыл бұрын
Super basic surface level chemistry
@epicgamer9560
3 жыл бұрын
10 years ago are you still alive bro
@drdoomgoat38
3 жыл бұрын
@@epicgamer9560 i,too am curious.
@lazyamerican117 They don't allow burritos on sub's because while they've perfected CO, and CO2 scrubbers, methane scrubbers are still a thing of the future. ; )
@mynamejeff785
6 жыл бұрын
kaysandesses What about Taco Tuesday? We always had tacos on tuesday, between that and the plan of the day, it became hard to really know what day of the week it was, not that it mattered at all.
637 Fast Attack submariner, and count them as the proudest years of my life.
As job I could never handle this, I know most of the time they will be underwater somewhere for months waiting to be deployed, which is already a crazy thought. But in the event of war getting hit by another torpedo under millions of gallons water, that thought would scare me the most.
I just had an incredible dream I was aboard a submarine. It was so amazing I didn't want to wake up. Now I'm immediately watching this.
Life is simple. You are either qualifed or you are not.
I already isolate myself, so a submarine would be an improvement
@ezpz3784
4 жыл бұрын
Stupid_Tree nope probably the worst place to be. Thanks to the cramped conditions the only private space you have is your coffin bunk. Everywhere else you are brushing shoulders with your crewmates
@CacoExplosivo
3 жыл бұрын
except you will be living with other 99 men for months with 2 bathrooms, no sunlight, sleeping 2 hours a day and working when you're not sleeping
@coltsgood99
3 жыл бұрын
@@ezpz3784 exactly what I was going to say lmao
Trained sailors learn to recgonize the symptoms. *death*
@gabedarrett1301
3 жыл бұрын
That's a serious symptom lmao
I was on the USS sea wolf and USS Jimmy Carter.. fun to see my old job on KZread
@c.shearin5814
6 жыл бұрын
Booty Juice Ever been to Sea Wolf Park in Galveston?
@stvandy1
4 жыл бұрын
Booty Juice why name a sub USS Jimmy Carter? I thought that would be reserved for an aircraft carrier.
@deletdis6173
4 жыл бұрын
@@stvandy1 Because Jimmy Carter was a submariner.
Mad respect to them
Pray for 402 Nanggala Indonesia submarine 😭😭😭
I never thought sub has a dining hall. That dining hall is spacious, at least by a sub standard.
Fascinating. I couldn't do it. Go Navy!
The non quals are called NUBS or non useful body. Its the most stressful thing a young sailor could go under not to mention the sleep deprivation.
Great... “death haunts them on every patrol” how relaxing
2:26 wonder how many takes it took him to say it correctly
I would go nuts having to stay under water for months🙀🙀
Good stuff here... and alex, no its not a boy scout qual... when and if you finally qualify you have a board, usually 1-3 hours long and they ask you all sorts of questions about the sub, how does this work where is this at etc. when you finally get your fish, it means that you have the basic knowledge requirements that if everybody else on the sub died, you could pull it back into port.
Why is this only been recommended to me after the Nanggala disaster? 😢
@rosefamilia3169
3 жыл бұрын
KZread read your interest in submarine and recommend you related stuffs.
Finished MEPS and swore into the Navy on 9/11 as a Logistics Specialist Submarine. Excited.
I admire all submariners. I proudly admit that I could never be one.
@duped8273
Жыл бұрын
Never say never why can’t you be one? Are you incompetent?
WOW! Great STUFF!
We produce our own fuel... Oh a-gangers
respect for these guys.
@kellymc239
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
Quite interesting. Thank you.
@paulwashington98e
Жыл бұрын
Hi there? Hope you're fine & staying safe??
Finished MEPS and qualified for submarine life Cant wait to ship out
@grantameele421
6 жыл бұрын
Michael Valeska I did the same last spring
My friend Mike served in the military in the early 80s. I'm not sure which subs he served on nor what jobs he held. He died of cancer a few years back so I can't ask him now. But he said after leaving highschool the Navy recruiter he talked to "GUARANTEED HIM" that he was going to get to fly fighter jets on board a carrier. He got shipped off to basic and then sent to sub training. He said wtf??? By then he had already signed the papers and lost his choices so he spent his career on nuclear subs. He said he ended up absolutely loving submarines and regreted leaving the Navy. He said that you should never ever believe a military recruiter though because they can promise you anything. Get it in writing before signing or it's just bs. He was an awesome guy.
@dspates51
6 жыл бұрын
Charles Merrill the Navy doesn't just simply send you off to submarine school. Every person assign to a submarine are volunteers. They don't force anyone to be on submarines. Besides not everyone is psychologically fit to be on submarines and that's something the Navy do check.
@charlesmerrill7931
6 жыл бұрын
Darryl Spates I appreciate the info. I couldn't argue 1 way or another. I never served in the military although now I wish I had. I was going strictly off the stories my friend had told me. He was a fun guy with lots of neat stories. If you served in the Navy then you would know better than I and if you served I would like to thank you very much for your service.
@dspates51
6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Merrill l did have the honor and privilege to serve on board submarines, two attack submarines and one fleet ballistic missile submarine (Boomer). I'm a retired Navy veteran. I joined the Navy and volunteered for submarine duty because it was a childhood dream. I lived my dream and it was one of the best things I've ever done in my life. Wish I could have done it forever. Please accept my condolences on the lost of your friend. He sounds like a really nice person. I can see that you really do miss him. May God bless you.
@scotmandel6699
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but your friend was pretty naive to believe that the Navy or any of the other services for that matter would train a person with only a HS diploma to be a jet fighter pilot. I enlisted in the Air Force in 1984 (retired after 21 years) and knew little about the military when I joined but was pretty sure I wasn't qualified to ever become a pilot even before I talked to a recruiter.
I heard from an article in 2016 that they are transitioning in 2014 from and 18 hour day to 8 hour watch and 16 hours off. Sleep is becoming a priority.
I imagine it constantly feels like you're breathing stuffy air down there
@melvinholliday4160
4 жыл бұрын
You don't notice the smell until you surface and open the hatch. Then it hits you. The foul air from the outside. Remember you been breathing very pure air while submerged and you notice no smell until you get a whiff of what we breathe every day to stay alive.
@hendraenhawe7063
3 жыл бұрын
pure what? all smells is mixed up there, toilet, metal, foods, dirty socks, etc
Glad I was a surface sailor. DDG 87. Proudly We Serve.
I couldn't do this. I admit it! My respects to those who serve.
Shipping out Oct. 11 can’t wait
@xthesketcher610
4 жыл бұрын
How is it?
There's nothing like fresh air. Im so glad I quit smoking.
Great ending line.
Wild!
This Mary Kate she pumps really well and ashley is Temperamental.....👌😂
Barotrauma got me here because it made me think about the hard life of submariners.
I just have to comment- I was on the Florida 35 years ago as an electrician on the blue crew. We discovered that the aft O2 generator acted squirrelly because its electronics were not cooled properly. So our A-gangers came up with a makeshift cardboard duct that directed cool air onto the front of that machine- problem solved! However, it had to be taken down when we pulled into port for appearance-sake. I do not think this idea survived the tenure of our time back then - as it isStill a problem looking for a permanent solution ... amazing! Wish I could talk to them today! EM1(SS) & Plankowner, USS Florida
That's crazy!
We don't throw the AMINE fluid into the ocean (they explained it wrong at 2:30 into the video), the CO2 scrubber machines (there are two on that type of sub) has two parts, one section that absorbs the CO2, extracting it from the air, then that rich AMINE (full of CO2) gets pumped to another part of the machine, where it gets heated, releasing the CO2 in a controlled chamber from with then the CO2 is extracted and the CO2 is pumped alone into the ocean....
Very Cool
The life in the submarines showed is nothing to be compared with a small submarine. I saw TV room, gym, even in some of them a jacuzzi. In most of the countries the subs are only with one corredor in the middle and the life is very different that the film is showing. These crews are really privileged. Regards.
@BennyHarveyRIP
11 ай бұрын
Regards
What a fun ending!!
Im too old now, but if I were to sign up for any part of the military, it would want to be in a submarine. I like to think my mentality, and mental strength would be tough enough to endure being in an environment like that.
Hey. I was on one of those for 4 1\2 years. Hooyah FTN
Respect
Good ol Kings Bay GA
Special limited persons......great great respect.....
An extraordinarily lethal weapons system, manned by extraordinarily bright young sailors.
I got my last system signed off on 4 July 76 and was pinned (phinned) in August almost 46 years. I wear the baby formal Dolphins on my collar daily.
I ship for basic this Sunday and I’m going in to be an MT on one of these rigs. Still don’t know what to expect
I enlisted into the Navy and one of the jobs I got offered was being in a submarine and repairing it. Would have been to pipes, welding and even plumbing but I took a different job. Didn’t want to be doing a construction related job
the olsen twins.. and the pennsylvania has the hilton sisters.. nice
This is Mary Kate she blows very good that's clever
@fenwaypark1725
4 жыл бұрын
James Leonard Ashley sounds like more fun. A little fight in her.
Thanks, but I'd rather be a tanker lol I like stepping on solid ground whenever possible. Something about the deep dark sea that is unsettling.
This wasn’t a even day in the life of a submariner. It was just random facts about subs.
Getting this recco right after my country submarine tragedy and the lost of 54 crews. Eternal in patrol KRI Nanggala.
Ain't no slack in the fast attack, ain't no pride in the Trident ride...it's an SSN thing 😎
We both know you are here because it's 3am and you came from the titanic submarine memes
@mahamanikyabrm2628
11 ай бұрын
Ok
I served aboard a surface ship (sonar technician) and while they want everyone to get the surface warfare qualification (I got mine) there were definitely slackers and it wasn't mandatory per say. Is it different on a sub? Seems like they really force you to get it from day one.
@AL692
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is mandatory to get your Submarine Warfare Pin. Your a second class sailor until you finish all of your qualifications.
@OPTIMUMELITE
6 жыл бұрын
It's mandatory for everyones survival it seems.
@zoperxplex
6 жыл бұрын
I suppose the fact that they are under water makes it critical that in an emergency crises are addressed immediately.
@thomasatchley3876
6 жыл бұрын
Qualify or gone.
@jamessyersii3124
6 жыл бұрын
As someone who is in sub school right now. They make you do qualifications at school too. The first 2 months here are just learning about subs so it'll be easier to get qualified. Then you can actually go to your "A" school for your rating. So yes Quals are everything in the sub fleet; without them you are pretty much useless to everyone on the boat.
Respect from india
This guys definitely had a fling with Ashley look at that smile
Science is so lethal
Going out in December being a MT!
@89tin
6 жыл бұрын
Goldtacto How did it go , still at it ?
@SUZYYY2013
3 жыл бұрын
Hope it’s going well!
@Goldtacto
3 жыл бұрын
@@SUZYYY2013 WOW, a comment from 8 years ago! I'm actually still in the navy and intend on getting out here shortly. But I didnt end up being an MT, I'm an ITS1 rn... (comms side) and I got orders to a fast attack in Hawaii about 6-7 years ago. I did 2 deployments and can honestly say from the time I made this comment to now, I'm pretty well versed in EVERYTHING submarine related lol. This nat geo video definitely makes everything seem wayyyyyyyyy more serious and epic than it actually is. But I still got to do some pretty awesome stuff. They don't show you the lengthy hours, duty days, dealing with others hygene, or pranking people by putting pies in peoples poopysuits while they're sleeping. Thanks for the comment though, made me take a trip through memory lane LOL.
Imagine your in one in the middle of the sea and someone bangs on the latch hahah
Mark Hamill what a treat!
Very interesting a seen a oxygen generator
I enlisted last week, leaving for boot camp in November and chose to go with LS Submarine (LSS).
The silent service ....very special personal
You only sleep for 6 hours at most a night?
@andrewetaylor25
8 жыл бұрын
Oh yes at most
@luistpuig
7 жыл бұрын
if your 6 hours off happen to fall between 8:00 AM, and 4:00 PM (when the crew practice drills are performed), you won't get much sleep, so you will go sometimes with over 24 hours of no sleep at times....
@jamesweldon9726
7 жыл бұрын
mrlebowski562 - Their "days" are 18 hours, though. So they're spending 1/3 of their time sleeping (or trying to) just like most people.
@AnhTrieu90
7 жыл бұрын
Life is hard on subs. That's why they get the best treatment in the Navy.
@NFLization
6 жыл бұрын
When you're doing sea trials for a brand new submarine, you're sleeping 3 hrs a say if you're lucky.
Dammit the Navy recruiter left alot out lol
i became here cause missing indonesian submarine