My parents say the same thing but it more like 100k disappointment

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@ryano8613

2 жыл бұрын

Oh buggar

@Mini-z1994

2 жыл бұрын

@@TomleyRC They should have changed some things around on this for sure. Like a cheaper lexan body with some of those plastic details instead of a full plastic body, Lipo like the 2200 mah that came with the wltoys 144001 would have been fine in this. Mount steering servo on the front axle so servo struggles a bit less, possibly get a bit sharper steering angle as a bonus. A few teeth smaller pinion & just have throttle & steering dual rate. It's a weird combo of features that maybe would have worked on a smaller crawler with a 370 or 390 size motor but not this. An actual 2s lipo instead of a lithium ion pack so it has some amperage out of the battery & you'll probably see some actual crawling out of this with a lighter body. If you feel like wasting some time on this, feel free too try a few things starting with battery & fitting a smaller pinion gear on there, like 3 - 4 teeth down should help even the stock battery with extra torque.

@ianmangham4570

Жыл бұрын

Lucky you having parents, I was raised by an Alsation and a Burmese mountain dog.

@laylahoang

6 ай бұрын

@@ianmangham4570wth

Thanks for catching my comment on the live stream with regards passing this onto a youngster at the crawling event Phil . No doubt they will get the enjoyment out of it 👍

Can't believe they supply that paltry Li-ion battery with it. And an open board is ok on a £50 truck but not on one costing this much. On the plus side plenty of scope for improvement! 👍👍

Good on you for being honest on a sponsored/free product. Not all reviewers would do that.

Thanks for another great review. I was shocked to see an exposed circuit board. I thought those disappeared. You have reviewed so many reasonably priced crawlers I thought this one might be even better for the price. I don't think there was a lot of testing before it was released. I know the body is not perfect, but may be it will fit on another car. Your review is very valuable to anyone who was considering it.

@eriksimca9409

Жыл бұрын

they are actually on most china stuff today still WPL runs circuitboard but they are alot better than this junk who cant even last a run outside

It looks to me the failure is the battery, receiver/esc combo, and weight distribution. I have those tires on a couple of trucks and they work pretty good for me. The body is a little off, but it looks good enough. Cramped conditions for a 1/12 driver is par for course with 1/10 hard bodies, getting him in without amputating is a plus. The short wheelbase is probably better suited for an fj40. I think with better electronics and battery and a slightly higher price point would have been a better idea.

Be cool whenever you’re making your next review, to take another crawler and have it run the lines. That way we can see that it’s underperforming against a baseline crawler. That ftx for example.

As a defender user I can say the scale is just a bit off. But the interior plastic quality looks spot on as does the cramped driving position 😂

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

Great and honest review, Tomley! Thanks! 😃 But yeah... It doesn't look too bad, but... Yeah, better to stay away. 😕 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

I think the front bumper makes it look really cheap and not very scale. Reminds me of a basher rc bumper.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 👍

Im totally in your opinion,,, I don't know why some people buy something like this when you get a Traxxas trx4 sport for 380$ and it's more than double quality,,, thanks for you review Tomley,,, road to 100k,,,I'm at your channel since 30k and your videos just gets better and better,,, big thumbs up👍

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support for so long dude 👌

@TheTruthHz

Жыл бұрын

I think because the TRX 4 in the UK is OVER £500!! It's massively over priced for what it is. But that's Traxxas for you.

@FactsForThoughts

Жыл бұрын

Traxxas is only a good deal in America. Even in Canada It’s seven to $800 for a trx4

@richardodjohari8273

Жыл бұрын

Traxxas not that cheap in Asia.

The body looks to be the same as the Injora Defender body, I've got a 313mm "110" and its decent quality if not a bit wonky on the scale. The chassis/axles look like they could be Injora too with crap springs and electronics stuck on it. If it had decent shocks and electronics it should be half decent for the money...

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they messed this one up!

@SuperMineMatteo

2 жыл бұрын

Having built two trucks with parts from Injora and other brands form aliexpress, I can confirm that the whole chassis assembly is a cheap kit that is known for having stiff shocks, and tires wearing pretty fast if you crawl a lot on rocks. The body isn't bad in quality because I own a XJ Cherokee from them and it's pretty nice, the problem is that on this defender they messed up the proportions real bad, the windshield is too small, there should be less real estate under the "glass". In addition to that, the doors are way too small and make the side look weird. But the thing I dislike the most is the fact that they rushed in trying to recycle their standard 2-in-1 esc and reciever platform making one powerful enough to fit the 540 motor. They could have rebranded alrady existing gear kinda like other brands do. Overall this shows poor design choices, most of the parts can be bought right now separately from the internet, and the proprietary ones aren't in line with the quality of the MN99/99s for example. They were probably going to make one from the ground up, and that's probably what they're doing right now, but in the meantime, in order to attract people to the brand again they decided to release this hoping to get attention, they succeeded but not in a positive matter.

0949 in Arkansas USA!!! Morning Tomley!!! Thanks for the vid I've been looking at these and you confirmed my fears.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Good Morning 🤟

Oh thanks for showing the BOX, it does indeed have MN Model logos on it but is not listed anywhere on their website. It's not anything new and is basically a rebadged INJORA Defender.

Well for a RTR injora scaler not bad. All injora stuff, d90 body and 275 chassis buy them separately and you’ll spend more than that. Put a decent set of tires and weight in those beadlocks plus understand thats not a crawler but trail scaler and you’ll be fine.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

It’s just generally crap overall. It says ‘Rock Crawler’ on the box.. but even a trail truck should be able to do some mild crawling… and not break after less than a battery pack 😅

@maxm1417

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Probably less disappointed if they do not include electronics on the box. 😬

Say what you want but I love the fact that it holds a figure without modding, that's an extremely rare thing and at least for me absolutely everything.

MN is an acquired taste. You either have to accept its silly light logic, cheap exposed circuit board, and bedspring shocks, or else be prepared to rip it all out and replace it. If you accept it, you have to stay within its limitations. The exposed circuit board looks to be the same as that in the RTR MN-86. That board will NOT accept a 3S battery (I speak from experience!). And I suspect that you burned one of your chips out running it against some of those rocks even with a 2S battery. I agree with you about RGT, except that those particular models, with the 390 motor, all have plastic transmission gears, which is the weak link there.

The electronics and chassis look kind of cheap but I actually like the body even if it's not an exact replica of the Land Rover. 👍

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Shame it’s out of proportion. Could have been really nice

Looks spot on. I honestly thought it’s a 90. Run defenders for 15 yrs 👍🏻

If your looking for a 1/10 crawler for around that same price just get a ftx kanyon there actually really bloody good and was my first rc car

The remote looks like it's trying to be a mini clone of the Kyosho standard radio (the one you get with the inferno and outlaw and such).

My sons MN 99s did the same exact thing twice! Even after replacing with a new stock motor and board, it quit again. All he was trying to do both times was get over a rock like you were. Got a bad taste in my mouth for MN Now.

best honest riview for this truck, good job sir.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

It does look a lot better with the mud on it. Keep it up, and have fun.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Brian

@andrewmagro7703

2 жыл бұрын

i know where i would look the best , still sitting on the shelf of the sod who's trying to sell us these Pieces of S%&T

Thank you for this review. I have watched a few running videos of this rig...And they made it look so capable...lol... But after seeing this video well we now know what to expect ..Thanks' for saving me my hard earned cash...I will not be getting this one ..lol..Big Thumbs' up Phil.

Love the hand 👌 it looks like it is something 007 would drive 😂😂😂

Tomley I met a guy at McDonald’s who said that he was you so I bought him a coffee soooo yeah when you get a chance I’m gonna need that coffee back 😂

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

No probs, I’ll get you one next time I’m in Maccy’s 👌

This truck looks like it was sourced from a bunch of Injora parts. Not sure how authentic MN it really is

@Isuzu_Paul

2 жыл бұрын

It is, except it has crappy electronics

Love the honest shilling good and out and open with the details of the video hell yea

@2nd_amendment_militia

2 жыл бұрын

Wow you con men are vary tanashis

I think a cheap esc and receiver setup in it wouldn't be to bad but I've noticed that with alot of the mn brand they either need to have wpl electronics in them when sold or you upgrade yourself

@Br0rB

2 жыл бұрын

Throw an isdt esc70 and a Dumbo rc receiver in, at it would probably be a lot better, and not cost a lot of money. Still probably cheaper than buying the chassis and body from injora.

@danieljackson443

2 жыл бұрын

@@Br0rB yep it sure would be im using those cheap 5 buck esc one with dumborc one with another brand never had a issue

out from the box... i'm waterproof it and give it heatsink, also try it with 3s liion... still working until today... yeah mn999 had bad esc and slow servo ....

Took the words right out of my mouth Phil , was thinking the whole time "I'd rather have an ftx outback and some change" . What a wet fart of a truck (couldn't bring myself to call it a crawler 😂😂)

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, FTX are really good for the money

@yourmomsfbuddy1177

2 жыл бұрын

Wet fart is an accurate term to describe this turd for sure. What a disappointment

@mikeupton5406

2 жыл бұрын

LOL! He said wet fart....

@alantaylor353

2 жыл бұрын

It should be called a "kicker"... Guess why..

@alantaylor353

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeupton5406 I thought I farted but I didn't...

For the same price you can get an FTX fury which in my opinion is amazing

As mentioned before, this is literally just an injora setup. You can literally buy that exact chassis off Amazon lol. Shocks and all. Tires that came with those exact beadlocks as well. Big no from me. If I want to build this, I'd just buy the chassis off Amazon for $150

You could buy the FS Racing crawler for that amount. You'd then be getting basically an unbadged Axial SCX10 II (made in the old Axial factory)

Looks like it got caught between toy grade and hobby grade. The speed controller is embarrassing for something at that price point and it looked like they built it with spare part lying around. I did think the body was going in the right direction but even that is a little questionable.

I am so glad you reviewed this bc I thought I really wanted this... not anymore.... rubbish

I have bought my fair share of these budget 1/10 rc’s because I thought I wanted to save money. They all were substandard and light years from Traxxas and nnAxial. Then I bought a builder’s k bbb it TRX4 with the two speed and lockers. What a revelation!! Now my cheap trucks are for visitors only. I watch this video and it brings back memories of those crappy over priced “cheap trucks”! One nightmare was a $200 RGT Bronco that broke an axle in the first 10 mins taking it real slow! The manufacturer wanted me to buy the axle and pay for shipping from China! Ya right! It has a new use as an exquisite dust collector! I had a bad turn with a WL Toys recently as well. I am so spoiled with my Traxxas. And I just bought an Axial SCX10 to test the waters. I am not disappointed with either models. I have stopped wasting my money on these sub par models.

" It's a bit cheap, and nasty looking! " Yes it is. 😆

you should do a review on the Redcat E10 its a budget crawler and I think you will like it.

It’s a axial 2 clone frame , Body not that bad , just spray it Land Rover green and upgrade it👊🏻👍🏻

hello. what crawler do you recomend scale 1/10 , with body LR D90 that don't burn a wallet , with mid range money? thanks

Must admit my sons Ftx jimny/paso is a 1st timers cracking truck and it does really well. Obviously like you say this new mc is same price but not as good

Looks nice need to stiffn that suspension I think

Oyi Oyi Mr Tomley! My Ball Mug made it too Atlanta in one piece! You sir, are a massive ball bag lol.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤟

Makes the FTX Ravine look even better value for money. 😉

You need to glue some weights into the wheels inside the tires to lower the center of gravity.

I've got an MN86 and it appears to be more capable than that. I'd say that the MN86 is actually about 1:16 scale based on what figures fit, so the MN999 is probably closer to 1:12 than 1:10. It's a shame, I was hoping that this would be a good step up from the MN86, especially given it's twice the price!

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the 86 is my favourite MN 👌

Thanks for the review. I dodged the bullet on this one. It was next on my list.

Really not sure what to think of it . It looked like it could have been a sweet little truck . But it appears they missed the mark on so many bits especially the open circuit board 🤔. Maybe it should be priced around £100 ( being generous) ?. FTX certainly seems a far better buy. Nice upload Phil

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, those electronics are terrible!

@davidhiscock1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@TomleyRC something you would expect in a toy grade not hobby grade

Good test, bro

Paint it red looks more like a kids drawing of postman pats van. In the bin

another great review phil

I almost pissed my self with the gopher clip...lol Alan Alan Alan haha 🤪😉

Hi, nice unboxing and car 😀

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude

Oh boy. Well I love your pointer!!!

@liamorourke2777

2 жыл бұрын

Can u just stop being a scammer

The Latin music made the test footage even more funny 😂

I love the one you lowered

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, looks good 👌

It would definitely need new electronics. What were they thinking for that price. Supply chain hike of product cost I guess.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes… crazy price for what you get

Absolutely hilarious, it's a crawler that looks upset crawling 🤣

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

😅

Lil' board blown.. The mosfets I saw on it were the same as on those tiny 1/18 scale esc's.. whole board looked like it was ripped from a 1/18 scale truck. a 'normal' servo can kill those. With a 540.. well.. it'll lose most power to heating up. Nice to keep a cupper hot.. And 'top heavy' hardly covers it. Here I was, thinking my Axial SCXIII Bronco was 'top heavy' sheesh..

looks like the injoria chassis pretty sure it is the added a cheap esc body and lights

out the box ECX Doomsday Barrage was a much better deal at 100-110 bucks "RTR", its properly geared 390 motor is plenty, decent ESC and steering servo too. this one by MN is being crippled by its electrics and its "side tippy and back flippy" just like the 1/12 original MN D90. at that price I'd want normal RC quality electrics, smaller pinion on a neutral timed 550 can motor (brushed 5 pole?), and some wheel weight! it should have 2200-3000 mah LiPo in the box too, or at least double the size of the lithium ion by running two packs like that one in parallel so it can deliver a little current without choking.

If you change the ESC, motor, servo, better battery, different shocks and sort out the top heavy and out of proportion chassis… it would be excellent!

@andrewmagro7703

2 жыл бұрын

then buy a chassis too while your there and have a not bad looking decent crawler :-)

Muy buenas tardes Mr como estas , bonito este land rover ,muchos detallez en la carroceria saludos y exitos

A 540 geared that low should be able to spin those tires likes nothing.

Oh, dear. At least the MN 45 and MN 40 are quite cheap and easy to transform into really good, fun RCs, but this thing...best left on the warehouse shelf.

Still loving the hand 😻

"It's worse than that, it's dead Jim, dead Jim DEAD".!!

I was thinking of getting a mn99s are they worth it I don't mind if I gotta buy shocks and some extras but just want something to trail walk and maybe climb a few rocks

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard they may have changed the production of them and they are not as good as they used to be. I might purchase one and find out

@ogdizzle155

2 жыл бұрын

@@TomleyRC oh really that's a shame would be awesome if u got one would be nice to know if its worth it or not I did look at the wpl stuff but I really like this land rover body

@ogdizzle155

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hjerte_Verke thank you buddy for the awesome advise and I 100% get its not gonna be scx10 or something I more wanna go walking with it on the small trails we got around me and sounds right up my street I love to tinker and modify all my rigs so I'm sure this will be nothing different to the rest haha I honestly need to use facebook more I never go on there always forget its a really good place for rc stuff I also just brought a 3d printer so sure there will be plenty things to print for it to

They probably put in just enough oil to keep the O-rings from drying out.

Should do a review on the new updated kanyon

Hi Tomley please do a review of the austar hobby jeep cherokee xj!!

Hey Phil I pray that all is well. Great reviews,as always. Austin Powers is 1/9 scale. He’s from Neca. That’s why he won’t fit. I know that I sound like a nerd,but I’m actually a geek. I collect a lot of action figures and rc cars lol

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Even if he was a little smaller he’d have not fit. But if he’s 1/9 then that would explain why I’ve not found a truck for him to drive yet 😅

@emiliorosa6703

2 жыл бұрын

@@TomleyRC and RC truck a 12.8 wheelbase would look with Austin Powers driving it,for sure. I love that you still have him around. I always look for him whenever I watch your videos lol

@Hjerte_Verke

2 жыл бұрын

They also do not create the interiors to fit a proper sized figure either; the interior, seats and steering wheel is just to up the "gee whiz" factor and not to fit a figure in, like a Barbie car. It's just an afterthought and as we can see from the totally incorrect body and off-kilter proportions, who expects the interior to be precise or accurate?

@emiliorosa6703

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hjerte_Verke it’s so frustrating

Paul (?) you can't drive this thing properly man! The rear door opening constantly is a feature! When it happens - on a steep difficult obstacle - you say: "oh, the door came open, I better close it before I rip it off" Then as you push the door close, you give the truck a push, then it can conquer every obstacle on the course! 😅😂🤣

Great review as always Phil. it'a shame, because it does look the part

Nice from far, far from nice. Thanks to the footage/location anyway

I bet there is worse but you’re look has changed as before you were so enthusiastic about this kind tier and looked into upgrading and spending money on it. . It ain’t great and the 99 is beter but it has spirit (inspiration).

It is a badass looking shell No complaining yet.

That's a RINO horn on the hand held lol

@Hjerte_Verke

2 жыл бұрын

It's a Phallus!

Im glad i only paid $32 for my mn90, def worth

Please review the FS racing rock crawler! Budget friendly and literally no1 had done it yet!

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll take a look

@grrfy

2 жыл бұрын

@@TomleyRC they are so underrated, and seemingly unknown is my top tip for a first crawler ,friend got one and loves it,good build quality,spares,and can actually climb well. V2 even has contra rotating drive shafts etc.. Edit to add it also has a decent steering angle,something the cheaper stuff seems to be really poor at.

Looks like they went through a Fasttrax bin and picked up the cheapest hideous parts they could find

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Some of the Fastrax is actually okay… but I get what you mean

Amazing

When I saw this first, i thought this will good for me, but then that open cheap esc and electronic 3 speed made me not to and saved up a bit more and bought RGT ex 86010 JK pretty good and way better than this lame thing for sure.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

RGT JK is very good

the exposed esc is really shocking. atleast a box can protect it from moisture

Get an Absima Sherpa cr3.4 awesome rig for the money 👌

Awesome video!!

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Dexter

@dexterbeattie7884

2 жыл бұрын

☝️☝️

@dexterbeattie7884

2 жыл бұрын

@@TomleyRC scam alert 👇👇

Yeah, you did your review, it was a fair review and I will hold that information in good stead from now on, or at least till the next bargain bin clone lands on the porch. So, got any more fast WPL buggies? Maybe a Tomley first. Maybe build a portable trebuchet for the models like this one and launch them out the shop door of Tomley secret world headquarters. Or maybe a Matilda like vehicle that grabs them and throws sub standard R/C hoopties into a flaming pit of yak dung. FOD test a turbine?

Wheelspining means a loss of traction, can't say it has plenty of traction while it's sat there spinning it's tyres on the side of a rock

Good review! Love how the frame and sliders and radio box are a 100% copy of the SCX10ii 😅 the transmitter is one of the cringiest things I've ever seen haha

@Isuzu_Paul

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it's an injora axial clone frame and injora body

Open electronics on a crawler? Madness!

Buy as a kit. Put your own radio in it. You can send me that one. I have a extra radio to put in it. 😁😁😁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🚚

Who else hates that some of the best bodies are on the cheapest stuff. The only hard bodies I’ve ever had are on some of my tamiya rigs. I’m eyeing that sexy injora rover body for my scx10

Time out! I want Hyrax tires that say Super Swamper on them for my TRX-4, I started looking but I can't find them

So disappointed I have an mn86ks with a hobbywing 1080 and dumborc and upgraded shocks and it's awesome I was going to buy one of these but not now seems good cheap RC companys are failing lately like my favourite wpl.things have just gotten more expensive all round especially electronic components.cheers for the vid

How about upgrading the electronics, it may have potential to maybe be better afterward 🤔

Bump steer on that haha

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Haha

Should they release Kit version for this one, all they sell just a hardbody shell, a plasticy chassis, and crappy electronics just like its mini scale RTR.

@TomleyRC

2 жыл бұрын

Yes maybe

@maxm1417

2 жыл бұрын

They do. Its called injora buy those separately and it will cost you more than this rtr.

I like that 6 drops of oil then the open esc...maybe 150.oo but not 200 have to buy a new ESC right oh the bat