Taking into account everything you've done to assist biological activity and the high flow rate of the sump and canister, Ben that 300 may be at full cycle already. I think it's possible. At any rate I think it's way past any risk of weird spikes. Sit back and enjoy it at this point. Thank you for sharing it with us as always.

Wow..... superb vlog.... what a crystal clear African cichlids tank😍lots of love n respect from india 🇮🇳🤗🙏

Agree your tanks looked very clear excellent.

I like how you keep it simple. Tanks look amazing as well keep up the good work!!!

Very enlightening about how sumps work.

Just love your tanks Ben. Thanks for all you do to keep us in the know! Always learning!!😊

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend!

Thanks for sharing you sump idea. I'm currently putting one together and will adapt your simple idea to a trickle sump.

Thanks again for great content

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

The tank looks really good and crystal clear. I do want to go through some math here- The 40 gallon aquarium sump has about 1 cu.ft of 20 ppi foam (18x12x6-8 inches depending on the height of water) The Fluval FX 6 can be filled with 1 cu.ft of foam as well. A couple of Fluval FX6 for that tank is perfect. Simple sumps are the best, but an even simpler FX6 may be just as good. Thank you for progressing the hobby and sharing the journey with us.

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

I think that route would work as well.

I've got two Eheim XL 1500 s on my 150 had one of those for over 10 years and the other one I just purchased two of the best canister filters in my opinion on the market never had a problem with it love the video Ben your haps look great 🙂👍

Absolutely awesome ❤❤❤ I want to add a sump to my 125 gallon tank . It just have an FX6 at the moment. I have 6 EBA , a green severum, and a blood parrot in it .

Hey ben ! 🐟. Just the video I needed. 😃. Ive been a canister guy. All my life……. Thinking of. Going the sump. Route for my next tank. ✅

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

You’ll love it once it’s dialed in. My sump filtration playlist includes a ton of info.

Love the simplicity of the sump. Just wanted to point out your fx6 is blowing out a lot of bubbles, though maybe you already knew that. Love the tank and so glad it’s finally up in all its glory . 🥰

really enjoy all your content and videos i just purchased a 180 gallon and copy your sump idea but i have my sump and a fx4 since my sump is a 75 gallon no baffles only the foams and lava rock for media thank alot for all your videos

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😀👍🏻

Thing of beauty, great advice as usual; there was some dripping just above the return pumps any thing to worry about 👍👍✌️🤞

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

That’s the third overflow or emergency pipe. If the other two were blocked (very unlikely in a fresh water tank) it would handle the return duties. It’s common that it lets a few drops come through.

Your approach is like mine. 180 tank with a 40gallon breeder. Mine is for Discus.

Don't know much about sumps, you must be doing something right, your tank looks amazing.

I love your simplicity concept. How hard is it to take out the filter socks? do the tubes in the socks go pretty far down to the bottom?

@BenOchart

6 ай бұрын

Removing socks is very quick and easy. You can get different lengths. My go almost to the bottom.

Ben...I've been watching all your sump videos and I think I'm about ready to convert my current 125g to a sump system. I have two SunSun 3000 on them now, but want to try the world of sumps. So...do you have any videos that show the best way to take a current tank and use the overflow boxes to convert to a sump? I don't know if I can drill holes into my current tank at this point.

I'm just now trying a canister filter for a 75 gal aquarium I'd like to have a sump for my 110 gal stock tank BUT What I have going is ALMOST like a sump but reversed. Where I have the water from the stock tank (go into a clear plastic tote over sponge's) from a spray bar & the sponge's is on a rack ABOVE the over flow holes that runs back INTO the tank where the pump pulls the water from & over the sponge's & it works great. The tote is on a stand not on the floor & I can get to the filter easy & do all the maintenance I need to do for it I have 9 goldfish in the stock tank & just as clean & clear as can be I don't clean the filters for 3 months.

I have been considering a sump like this for my 6 fancy goldfish, but their specific wishlist (high mechanical waste load) made me build the sump I have now. It features an auto syphon which is able to remove debris unlike a regular overflow, a mechanical pre filter, Bubble magus fleece filter and a polishing filter after the pump. the filter wool will be replaced with the water change (80%/4days). The reason for not using a canister or matten is to remove the mechanical load on a waterchange. Cleaning filter socks is high maintenance as well IMO. The water change+high maintenance takes about 45 minutes in total which makes a long term healthy fish very easy to do. FYI, the angled egg crate is to provide space for the whirl the drain is causing. This reduces noise of a gaging drain and cooperates with the water level in the Magus. Because the filtering is not in a cabinet the noise output needs to be nihil and I spend quite some time in this. Have a look into my account for "auto syphon ,bubble magus L, yellow ryukins fancy goldfish sump demo" The only thing s left to do is making a drip plate on top of the filter wool. greets! Erik

Great info. Do you have a link for the synergy overflow you use?

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Here's a link: synergyreef.com/

Is there an equation that is used to determine the volume/size of tank to use for a sump according to the DT size? In my mind I'm thinking that if you used a cubic inch converted to gallons for the area from the top of the tank or waterline, to where the bottom of the sump intakes/returns are, you could get an idea of minimum volumes needed to keep the tank from overflowing the sump, yes? Also, I am in the middle of setting up a 90g tank for African cichlids, and I am planning on using the black diamond medium grain blasting media for my substrate, for the cost and because everything thing I read and research about what will make the colors of the fish pop says to use dark substrate/background etc etc. But you have a mixed color substrate and black background. Kaveman and cichlid bros all run normal color pool sand substrate etc. Us you substrate meant to keep a contrast so the tank isn't so dark, or are you using a buffer substrate along with the crushed coral that is a different color than the black? I have hard water and it comes out of the tap with PH in the high 8's to low 9's, so I don't think I'll need a buffer. Thinking about maybe adding a couple bags of medium to dark blue gravel to add a contrast, but would like to know what you're running and why, plus you're opinion. Thx

Hey im just curious as i just setup a sump similar to yours and the water passss through the sponnges but when it goes towards the return pump it flows over the rocks i placed, similar to yours. If the water flows over the media and not through it, is it effective ?

Nice work! I asked you in the live stream a few months back if this sump would be effective on that monster tank. Looks to me like it hit the mark on all levels 😎 Simple & efficiently keeping the water clean. "The Ben Ochart DIY Sump" put a patient on it before someone steels your idea 😅 By the way very nice feature displaying your channel logo in the reflection of the glass 👌

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Two people have suggested I patent the idea🤣🤣🤣 That reflection was not intentional, it just worked out that way😀👍🏻

As always well done 💯✌️👍 does the size of your return pump matter? TIA

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

It shouldn't pump water back into the tank faster than the overflow can return water to the sump, but that's usually not an issue, especially with what is called a "bean animal" style overflow set up which used three pipes to get water back to the tank (a primary, a secondary back-up and an emergency pipe). Your overflow box will give you a range to work within and your pump will list it's gps which then need to be adjusted based on how high you're pumping the water (it's called head pressure). It's a lot simpler than it sounds, LOL!

That's quite Sumptin. 👀😜

GREAT VIDEO.....YOU SHOULD TRADEMARK YOUR SIMPLE DESIGN.....YOU'LL BE RICH....GOD BLESS.....KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣why didn’t I think of that? Thanks Daniel and I hope you’re doing well and staying cool.

So satisfying to see your success with the big tanks and especially the 300 sump. I've been thinking of a design for my future 180g+ tank. Definitely will be using Poret sponges with dual pumps. Your fish looks awesome in all your tanks. I may sound like a broken record but a school of Mono Angelicus in your 300 will give a tremendous dynamic of movement and highlight the Cichlids because of their shape. I think I heard you say you were considering Sliver Dollar, they also may accomplish the same. I have both with my mixed africans Mbunas, Peacock s, Tropheous, and a Venusus.

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Monos look awesome and worth considering! I have a line on some Red Hook Silver Dollars. If those don’t come through the monos are on the short list😀👍🏻

@1980ify

Жыл бұрын

Do mono's die without salt in the water?

@migueleespinosa2632

Жыл бұрын

@@1980ify mine lived for years without salt in general.

I ran a reef sump the same way only difference I had protein skimmer and refugium

Please, how do you manage the amount of water coming into the sump vs the amount of water being pumped out? What if the pump draws out water faster than it come in or vice verser?

ur tank looks great its uper clear 👍👍 / I have a 75gal African cichlids tank have a 2 sunsun on it 704b/ 404b I thinking about black Friday sale get fluval fx6 an take take 1 sunsun off and just have 704b and fluval fx6 that should be good enough for a 75gal what you think

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

How heavily stocked and how often and how much do you feed would have to be considered, but I ran a 100 gallon with 25 ACs in a 100 gallon with just an FX-6 for several years and it ran perfectly. I would have preferred 2 canisters for the back up. So an FX-6 and a 704-B are plenty.

@roystevenson1297

Жыл бұрын

well right now I have about 13 but I'm going add more fish in few weeks about four I want at least 20 / 22 that it I feed ones if you want say twice sometimes I'll give them a snack but not every day lol my nitrate stays between 20ppm/ 40ppm everything else very good 0 ppm

How often do you clean your sponges? Do you clean all three sponges at the same time?

Do you have a video for how you water change with your sump?

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

I’ll make one in the next week or two.

Keep it simple my friend the more you add the more that could go wrong bio mechanical I am a fan ofpurigen but to each his own I like it ben I have a seamless sump system made by custom aquariums that is simple and effective but it cost way to much I like the route you went on your 300 my sump is on a 540

I love the set up, Ben!! Lookin awesome! Keepem comin 👊🏾 💯 🙏🏾

I’ve never used a sump, is the back of your tank glass drilled and cut out the returns and if so did you do it yourself or was it’s a custom cut. I was also wondering if a sump like this can work with the plumbing hanging over the rim as opposed to being drill and cut out ? Thanks Ben 🤗

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Drilled by the tank builder, GlassCages. There are overflow boxes that hang on the back like an HOB filters. In my opinion they’re not as reliable as being drilled.

Hi, I have a question if I may: Should i put the fish up in the aquarium or at the bottom in the sump? but I cant see them in the sump, is it possible to just keep the plants downstairs with the rocks and the fish alone upstairs?

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Big sumps are sometimes used to separate a fish out and keeping plants in a sump is also common, just be sure that that a plant friendly light is used over the sump like this one: www.aquariumcoop.com/collections/all/products/aquarium-co-op-easy-plant-led?sca_ref=3301874.0yH4KEHjB2

Really have been debating on switching to sump simply because of the earnest of the cleaning and media capacity…..

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

They are very easy once established

@MilosStevanovic1

Жыл бұрын

@@BenOchart horror stories I heard about power failure and overflowing does scare me. Will look more about safety mechanisms… Good video as always.

What is the cost on the 3 sponges

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Forget the exact amount. It wasn’t cheap, like $100

Wheres the canister filter? Please, talk us about having a sump plus the canister filter benefits.

Love your videos. HATE the jazz

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

I’ll mix it up for you😀👍🏻

Your sump is too complicated. All you need for a sump is multiple filter socks and a fluidized bed bio-filter using K1 media.

@BenOchart

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you’d lose most first time sump users at “fluidized.” This is why my current sumps are 90% matten sponges, one sump has socks and doesn’t . A few handfuls of Sera Seponex media and it’s good to go and works like a demon at keeping the tanks pristine. Here’s the back story: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pXyI0LCjfarRpJc.htmlsi=d3alKGN4lhD9yUKF

@marka9556

2 ай бұрын

@@BenOchart You do have a valid point. I was intimidated with talk of Bean Animal, Herbie, filter socks and fluidized bed when I built my first sump. I went the simple route with a Durso drain and matten sponges. What a disaster. The drain was a gurgling monster. Without filter socks, the sponges would quickly clog up with organic material and the water would overflow them. I lowered the water level but didn't have enough water capacity in the return pump section. And cleaning the matten sponges was a nightmare as half the crap would dump into the sump when I pulled them out. A sump with just filter socks and an air powered fluidized bed is so easy to maintain and very effective. They are easy to build with the right materials. Yep, i really need to do a video 🙂

5:18 is this tank drilled?

@BenOchart

Жыл бұрын

Both the 210 and the 300 are drilled for a Synergy Shadow overflow box. The 300 is drilled for return lines as well, but the 210 used a hose/hook return.