I'll relent on 2 things. I missed 2 of Malfurions feats of strengths that should have put him higher (holding up an island in some alliance quest I never did and fighting off Archimonde in one of the few books I didn't read). And also Thrall being high on the list for having the dragon soul that one time and holding back Jaina's tidal wave. Both strong things but not super flashy or satisfying to see as feats of strength. Everything else is spot on.

@kindafunnyvoiceactor6438

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making the list

@Rhazan91

3 жыл бұрын

Well maybe specify next time that its only playable faction leaders, cuz there are plenty non playable faction leaders who would 1 shot this whole list xD

@madvova118

3 жыл бұрын

Ive been saying that Velen is the big dick since burning crusade, but Garrosh with his borrowed power cannot be compared. Ive always been saying that Velen is the most powerful because he can see the future etc. (not even considering his individual powers).

@Crownsnek

3 жыл бұрын

I'd put Tyrande higher than Jaina since when the mawsworn Kyrians kidnapped the faction leaders the only one who fought them off was Tyrande. Jaina failed.

@szymonrozanski6938

3 жыл бұрын

What about Sargeras? He was the faction leader of the burning legion. He should hve made it on the list and be number 1.

asmon saying "BUT THEYRE LEVEL 12 MAN THEY'RE TRASH" *title of the video: "...BASED ON THE LORE..."*

@user-uq4gr5nl5o

3 жыл бұрын

BUT THEYRE LVL 12 MAN Pepega Clap

@hawfcut2394

3 жыл бұрын

He's a lorelet.

@MichaelLoda

3 жыл бұрын

Lol that's obviously a joke

@thodorosxanthopoulos

3 жыл бұрын

title of the video: "...BASED ON THE LORE..." uses questlines

@filianore8705

3 жыл бұрын

@@thodorosxanthopoulos thats how they make lore, with quests, they have storylines

"The less hair he had the dumber he was" Asmon, maybe not the best idea to say

@bard0r606

3 жыл бұрын

Cause now, i know. The world with real emotion is surrounding me.

@justin_y1454

2 жыл бұрын

KEKW

every horde leader comes up, asmon is like "thats bs he should be like #15" every alliance leader comes up, asmon is like "what? he is not #1?"

Drinking game; take a shot whenever Asmon says: "Yeah right!" Good luck!

@senistor9152

3 жыл бұрын

Or for any video, take a shot every time he raises his eyebrows 😂

@dylanevans8829

3 жыл бұрын

Don't die

@Jman1ify

3 жыл бұрын

I don't want to die today.

@loganwernicke7604

3 жыл бұрын

You've killed us all...

@ThePhantomKingX

3 жыл бұрын

We'd be dead.

In-game levels aren't relevant in the lore at all.

@Mictla155

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@dtg9k355

3 жыл бұрын

Or strength

@willhem5668

3 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as trash mobs, elite mobs or bosses in lore either If a lvl 10 defias comes and stabs Jaina she will die it does not matter that she is a lvl 120 elite boss

@RasguerWOW

3 жыл бұрын

@@willhem5668 Exactly, yet people just refuse to understand that. "Vol'jin died to a trash mob" is so stupid, like yeah his death was a bit underwhelming but it was realistic nonetheless. People just cant understand that fantasy can (and should) be realistic and believable

@ethanomihombre

3 жыл бұрын

Rasguer It really depends on the fantasy setting you’re talking about as to whether it should be “realistic.” It’s all about internal consistency, and if that means main characters don’t die to minor characters that’s fine. It might not be the kind of story you like, but it’s not a bad story. The problem with some WoW lore is that there isn’t always a lot of internal consistency imo

The fact that Sargeras himself wanted Velen to lead his army instead of Kiljaiden and Archimonde, proves how powerful he is.

@jeffreypeterson2

3 жыл бұрын

low key i would love to see a giant fel infused velen. big ass green fire beard and a huge staff

@wholesome1844crucifier

3 жыл бұрын

That's not because of any martial prowess, arcane knowledge or mastery over military strategy, but because of his ability to see far into the future. Something which doesn't really help you in middle of battle

@xaoc6084

3 жыл бұрын

@@wholesome1844crucifier That is not completely true. His sight is/was heavily achieved via the Naaru. Kil'jaeden himself admitted that Velen is more power than himself. A pretty big testament to Velens power.

@spacequack5470

Жыл бұрын

@@wholesome1844crucifier Said nobody that actually knows anything about it

@stillnotchill2560

Жыл бұрын

​@@wholesome1844crucifieryeah how could seeing the future ever help in battle? Lol braindead

Voljin is a beast in the books. But... I figure asmon wouldn't care to understand lol.

@FightClass3

2 жыл бұрын

Game lore > Book lore Vol'jin is weak in the game.

@liamzakhaev

2 жыл бұрын

@@FightClass3 cope and seethe with your pale dead skin and cheeto dusted fingers, gamelet

@EmeraldaKasim

2 жыл бұрын

@@liamzakhaev Imagine reading Wow lore books

@liamzakhaev

2 жыл бұрын

@@EmeraldaKasim Imagine liking one piece

@EmeraldaKasim

2 жыл бұрын

@@liamzakhaev One Piece is considered a narrative masterpiece to probably like 90% of people who have actually consumed the story. Out of all the series you could’ve attacked me for in my username you decided to go with the absolute dumbest claim possible. Not surprised though, trying to understand WoW lore has probably broken your brain. I’ll say this once, something with such an abnormal art style and goofy character designs can only survive so long because of it’s story and lore. So ironic, you are defending one of the most contrived, trope-ridden, narratively abysmal universes of all time while simultaneously attacking one of the deepest fictional universes ever created. Muted

What about the fact that, during the cataclysm, Thrall literally single-handedly held Azeroth together at the Maelstrom... ?

@GrokeytheHunter

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah people kinda forget that ngl

@DarthZ01

2 жыл бұрын

Also by my understanding to even use the dragon soul he had the channel the full power of the aspect of Earth, putting him at least on par with all the other Dragon Aspects. Which I don't think it should be surprising anyone to say that at least Ysera should be able to beat malfurion since she is the literal source of his power.

@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm

Жыл бұрын

From what i saw its just Asmons grasp on lore is very much bound to what Blizzard actually shows. As their shit writing often just forgets abilities or powers to futher their ends of the story they want to tell. I like to use Vol'jin as an example because ingame we see him just throw out spells like "Big bad voodoo" That turn all allies immune to any damage. But never use it again. He forgot his armor he ususlly uses before any battle that could have done alot sgainst being stabbed. Never used his martial arts training and reactions as hed just kick that felguard across the field instead of being stabbed etc. He is also best friends with Bwonsamdi. Nobody else we meet is that closd with him that he does personal favors with no personal bemefit like raising Vol'jins human friend. Im sure hed grand his actual champion some power even. But no. Outcome> Lore with Blizzard.

@jhin3534

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I don’t understand asmons hate boner for thrall. There’s a reason he got the name green Jesus by the player base lmao.

Asmon should do his own ranking list, since he doesn't agree with this one.

@qlasalle

3 жыл бұрын

He doesnt know lore he's very impressive with what he does know about the game tho

@TheFippe

3 жыл бұрын

He could try, but it would be incredibly biased lol

@ub3rfr3nzy94

3 жыл бұрын

@@qlasalle It was still a shit list, every single one he listed was wrong.

@stark8363

3 жыл бұрын

Daniel Linares Chavez nope

@Pain-fh2kz

3 жыл бұрын

he will put only alliance characters

MMO gameplay and MMO lore are two separate things. In gameplay a mob can be super bad but in lore they can be extremely powerful.

Story telling around voljin is actually pretty illuminating for how bad wows story team has been

The best time In this game was when Garrosh and Varian were leaders of those respected factions. As a horde player, you’ll never understand the respect we had for Varian Wrynn, his ferocity could only be meet with the same level, I feel that not only did Garrosh make us feel like real Horde, but could match Varian level of intensity.

@davidalexander7414

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shape430 they did in wolfheart novel. In which Varian defeats and disarms him.

@Xalocin

3 жыл бұрын

Same , as an alliance player I always liked Garrosh as Warchief.

@Dontknowme81

3 жыл бұрын

I read Wolf heart when no one had heard of it yet. Another good one is Garrosh trial after MOP. I think back that feeling I use to have thinking one day we would see them face off again. Admit it, we all felt more blood thirsty then, than we do now. I miss both of them.

@IngeniousNinja

3 жыл бұрын

@Keksimus Maximus Lmao wtf, Varian was an amazing fighter but Malfurion & Velen could both wipe their asses with him.

@lirumlarum9592

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize this is a game right?

“Based on lore” Asmon: bUt I cAn kILl ScArLeT cRuSaDeRs sO eAsiLy

@danlorett2184

3 жыл бұрын

And then he puts Malfurion at #8. Malfurion literally outranks EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS LIST BASED ON THE LORE. Not to mention that SHAMEFUL simping for Lillian Voss, the LITERAL WHO?

@Connoisseur7184

3 жыл бұрын

@@McconneIIRet yeah "I (or he) is just trolling" is probably the most abused excuse when you get called out. Lazy and easy.

@Mightywaffle567

3 жыл бұрын

I’m just here to farm likes. I haven’t played WoW enough to mald about other people’s opinion on the lore (literally started playing in 8.2, got to 60 in classic then unsubbed because I got bored)

@Connoisseur7184

3 жыл бұрын

@@McconneIIRet I have but usually it isn't this dumb.

@MitsurugiR

3 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah, if a random adventurer can kill thousands of Scarlet Crusaders by themselves then that means they're pretty trash.

I actually agree that Arthas is a faction leader of the undead, and that Illidan is a faction leader of the demon hunters so they should technically be on the list if Bolvar is, which could also mean the guardians could be a sort of faction leader of dalaran

@spacequack5470

Жыл бұрын

They pretty clearly arent factions. Smh

@leteador4253

Жыл бұрын

@@spacequack5470 Don’t wanna feed a argument but the video is a ranking for race and faction leaders, not just faction otherwise only the stormwind kings and Warchiefs would be counted for the ranking

@AgusSkywalker

Жыл бұрын

The video was about leaders of races the players are a part of. Even if Arthas is the leader of the DKs and Illidan the leader of the DHs during their respective starting zones, they aren't a real faction. And eventually players join the alliance and horde.

Remember that alternate Velen was able to instant kill a dark Narru which is a stronger version of the light narru. The thing with Velen is that he never uses his power/but he is extremely powerful.

@stevenmtaylor21

2 жыл бұрын

Velen is the Gandalf of WoW.

He does know that there are no levels in the lore right?

@Unjusthatred

3 жыл бұрын

EyesSetOnTheHorizon you forgot mounts ;)

@biggah00

3 жыл бұрын

he pretends to know things, but really just knows nothing at all

@stark8363

3 жыл бұрын

David Farnum you can tell this is just an act this asmongold persona is literally an act he probably know it isn’t

@dinamax6158

3 жыл бұрын

David Farnum You know he was joking right?

@willhem5668

3 жыл бұрын

It seems he does not

Videos like these are really kind of pointless because none of these characters have consistent enough writing for rankings to matter.

@MCcrepperify

3 жыл бұрын

Plus stan lee himself had said before ingeneral that characters are as powerful as the writer wants to be for that story or in regards to pitting characters against each other ots whoever the writer wants to win All these characters could get power ups at anypoint and it wouldnt truely matter

@johnstajduhar9617

3 жыл бұрын

@@MCcrepperify Exactly, its just a weird masturbatory exercise.

@ZZ-os4nb

3 жыл бұрын

I mean that's true but some of these rankings are egregious. Having Thrall above Malfurion and Tyrannde just makes no sense. So what if Thrall was more powerful for like literally a day, those 2 kick Thrall's ass any other day of the year.

@johnstajduhar9617

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZZ-os4nb Agree too, WoW is so all over the place nowadays it's like why bother.

@prinstyrio0

3 жыл бұрын

It's also very hard to rank characters in any kind of fantasy setting like this (or lets say Marvel or DC cause WoW faction leaders are like superheroes), cause there's SOOOO MANY factors that can play in. If we're truly speaking from a storytelling perspective, then you have so many secondary conditions that are impossible to really consider. All these characters got advantages and disadvantages, certain conditions could've happened we aren't aware of, and ofcourse that unless it's a strictly storytelling game, then these power-up are displayed to the writers convenience a lot of the time. One thing I can agree on is that certain characters can be places within a certain tier and you can rank them together above or below other characters, but it's very very hard to get an accurate solid tier list, it's very subjective and up to opinion. An example is the Malfurion, Tyrande, Thrall and Jaina part can be argued for days whether who's where, and whilst you might come to a consensus I think it's better just to say that these characters are on the same tier, but then even that can be argued like tierlists in a MOBA. Certain characters here will likely defeat the other more times than not, but I feel there's a more equal chance of the tables flipping depending on certain conditions, and there always will be, no duel is really completely fair unless its two fighters are using the same exact tools and ways to fight against eachother, which is clearly not the case with different species with different traits, magic, magical artifacts and other things such as some are ancient immortals and others normal humans. And then not to mention some aren't exactly 1v1 duelists, Velen is super powerful but he's not exactly a figher and his Light abilities are mostly just that powerful cause it's used against demons that are weak to it. He'd be strong against Bolvar or Sylvanas since they are undead and the Light is very effective against them, but he wouldn't have the same potency against Jaina or Malfurion.

I'm pretty sure we're the strongest characters in our faction. I mean.. we're always helping these "leaders".

Malfurion's powers are completely reality bending. If you've read Stormrage, you know that Tyrande and Malfurion are ridiculously powerful.

50 mins of WHAT are you CRAZY who WHAT WHERE WHY

@inabox6553

3 жыл бұрын

PauseChamp

@IHateYoutubeHandles79

3 жыл бұрын

Was god damn glorious!

@unholyallen9572

3 жыл бұрын

YEAH RIGHT

It says "based on lore" in the title. Why is bald man talking about levels all the time?

@solidtank7957

3 жыл бұрын

National Education Administration (teachers union) reading comprehension.

@tickub

3 жыл бұрын

funny how fans are deciding among themselves what constitutes as lore and what doesn't when Blizzard themselves have never said something is or isn't canon.

@DrReash

3 жыл бұрын

Because its funny

@FellishBeast

3 жыл бұрын

If the video cared about lore it wouldn’t call the Val’kyr “Valkyries” and Frostmourne “The Frostmourne.”

@dinamax6158

3 жыл бұрын

How do people not get that that is is entire persona? It’s so painfully obvious.

Hiru: *Mentions literally any Alliance character* Asmon: "DOOOD I thought they were going to be number ONE"

@Byggherren

3 жыл бұрын

@@biggshoverwelder3690 LOL you forget the wild gods and nelfs lost to a horde invasion force WITHOUT their bloodrage just a year ago and lost their most holy place and Genn is just a fucking half human half dog lmao

@Sqied

3 жыл бұрын

@@Byggherren wow the nightelfs lost to the entire horde army with all their races when the nightelfs were alone. Very weird indeed

They forgot strongest faction leader who singlehandedly defeated every hero and to this day is considered hardest raid boss... Hogger the allmighty overlord of United States of Gnolls

I like how "the literal god" has died hundreds of times to trash mobs but when vol'jin died to one "trash" mob he's like wtf ever.

@ErebusTheron

3 жыл бұрын

it's also stated that vol'jin died to that trash because the loa of death messed with his shadowhunter ability to sense his surroundings so its like the demon snuck up on him

@kronkrian100

3 жыл бұрын

Another thing to note is Varian was brought down by trash with Gul'Dan stealing the kill, when at that point, every trash mob could have cleaved his head off in an instant.

@heymynamesaidan7918

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah asmonbald doesn’t understand that getting stabbed doesn’t mean you’re super weak although I do think illidan should have been on the list and Vol’jin should have been higher than Lillian since we really haven’t seen much from her

@christianprevost8455

3 жыл бұрын

and cenarius die to simple orc and grom lol

@jukeswolfy2593

3 жыл бұрын

@@heymynamesaidan7918 Illidan wasnt a faction leader

not enough respect is being put on bolvar’s name. Bolvar used to be leader of the alliance, had enough willpower to resist the lichking which hasnt been done by anyone but him and then the helm of domination is broken af but still not arthas levels of broken because no frostmourne. Also bolvar was def a better paladin than arthas he was ranked highlord while arthas was in training. Not to mention the other comments saying scarlet crusade is weak when whitemane is one of the most broken humans in wow. Whitemane can canonically revive herself after dying the only way we could kill her was with a certain blade which blocked her revive out and even then she became a dk after

@askevisholm1933

3 жыл бұрын

it's the same as with Game of thrones.. we all waited to see what the new lich king was up to, just to see a BULLSHIT LOSER ending. so yeah. either Blizzards writers suck, or Bolvar sucks.

@dylanchavez7498

3 жыл бұрын

Plus did you see that dance she can do? Whitemane swag

@danlorett2184

3 жыл бұрын

BFA writing ruined a LOT of characters.

@uptonogood8243

3 жыл бұрын

Resisting torture is will power which, for a paladin, makes sense. Bolvar's will power does not equate to physical power.

@grant5595

3 жыл бұрын

@@uptonogood8243 power = power

Malfurion ranked 8 is a joke. Even during the war of the ancient he already had insane powers capable of whiping out a whole battlefield of warriors and demons (as when he thought he had lost Tyrande, he cast a storm that threatened to kill everyone, soldiers of Azeroth and demons comprised, without effort in his sorrow state). And that was before he went into druid rest for 10k years that made him even stronger... The guy who made this list has no idea what he's doing.

Also Malfurion has been neglected by the lore recently, but he fought the legion on all attempts it made to conquer azeroth, for 10000 years! He discarded arcane and embraced nature magic, revolutionized his people way of life which saved them. He used the Horn of Cenarius to summon the power of nature and destroy Archimond. Bolvar is nowhere near his power level If it’s faction leaders not restricted by being one currently (bolvar) shouldn’t Azshara be there?

@MG-wx9ib

2 жыл бұрын

@@East16 The random rogue who he is talking about all the time in every single video and is present in like 3 quests is also a red flag.

This reaction is basically Asmon just pissing on the entire video

@Javier-il1xi

3 жыл бұрын

@Josh derp I mean, he malds about people trashing capitalism and he uses the "not real capitalism" argument. He is just cringe sometimes :P

@ITCRYS475

3 жыл бұрын

Asmon knows like nothing about lore lol

@professorbakasura3295

3 жыл бұрын

this list is total shit

@langa77777

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a shit fucking video

@braules

3 жыл бұрын

The video sucks ass.

holy sheet asmons eyebrows was going into overdrive

@wastedraccoon

3 жыл бұрын

Quite the workout

@Tracer73866

3 жыл бұрын

WastedRacoon he’s so skinny because his eyebrows are doing all the workout

@Gutter_Glitter

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly thought they were going to fly right off his face watching this video😂😂😂

#10 Vol'Jin 0:17 #9 Lilian Voss 3:07 #8 Malfuion 6:40 #7 Bolvar 8:48 #6 Tyrande 13:08 #5 Thrall 16:04 #4 Jaine Proudmoore 22:15 #3 Sylvanas Windrunner 24:14 #2 Velen 28:16 #1 Garrosh Hellscream 31:41

Couldn’t even finish the video, maldboy wants everyone to be number one

I don’t think he knows what “based on lore” means.

@ub3rfr3nzy94

3 жыл бұрын

*Based on lore "So anyway, since we didn't see it ingame, tyrande isn't more powerful than before"

@mehtevas9321

3 жыл бұрын

i dont think hiru knows what based on lore means

@Alt-o-holic47

3 жыл бұрын

@@mehtevas9321 He's literally basing this list off of Feats of Strength. Tyrande doesnt have that many FoS at all. Malfurion is a boggled placing because this man has more FoS than anyone in lore

@danlorett2184

3 жыл бұрын

Based on lore this list is a joke. Malfurion is arguably #1 or at least #2 (after Velen AT WORST), Lillian Voss is at #893 where a literal WHO like her belongs, Varian Wrynn makes the top 10, Garrosh is probably around 8 or 9 with Wrynn, Thrall is either #10 or literally doesn't make the list because Dragon Soul != Thrall... the whole list is clusterfuck.

@HugeAirconditioner

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he should rename title to “based on my biased opinion”

Let's be real here, Varian only died to Guldan because the trash mobs that pinned him down knew that Guldan wanted to kill Varian. They could have killed him themselves right then and there.

Vol'jin is the only troll in the game to ever have a beard. How badass is that.

"If we encounter a Garrosh in Shadowlands, there's a good chance that it'll be a good one." I don't think good ones go to Revandreth.

@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854

3 жыл бұрын

But considering they go there to get redeem. Perhaps we will end up purifying Garrosh, or perhaps we end kicking him into the maw Leonidas style.

Malding about Vol'Jin when he could be arguable even higher ranked on this list lulw

@KingOfDepravity

3 жыл бұрын

But in asmons terms trolls are trash, so how could he possible be wrong? Lmao

@FargonNemeloc

3 жыл бұрын

Asmon gets confused easily

@jaerys8823

3 жыл бұрын

@@chamathnadeeshan4008 he literally said in the video that warriors are shit in lore though

@jaerys8823

3 жыл бұрын

@@chamathnadeeshan4008 if you cant differentiate his satirical nature about saying being warriors are literal gods etc. on stream, thats on ya.

@jaerys8823

3 жыл бұрын

@@chamathnadeeshan4008 @Chamath Nadeeshan let me get this straight. You accused asmon of being biased to warriors even though he shitted on em in his video and no he didnt only shit on saurfang, he also said thesame about Bolvar and Varian. That alone exposes your shit take on that. 2nd, you claim to know when Asmon is being satire or not then proceeds to take it seriously when Asmon says warriors are best and literal gods narrative when in fact just on the Savix video he again stated how warriors are shit then suggests to roll warlock or rogue yet All these things are satire, again if you cant tell between em, thats on ya. You even pathetically accuse me of being his cringey garbage worshippers just on the basis im calling you out for being wrong on your shit takes when the evidences are right in front of you. I can't butter up these words to not offend you that much but I honestly think you are fuckin straight up dumb.

Really don't think he gets the whole concept of "levels don't matter in lore"

I'm alliance, but Vol jin was my favorite warchief

on Thrall: if the shaman gets the "approval" from the nature spirits, he can do literally anything. the only catch is, he could ask and the spirits might say 'no'

The reason asmon doesnt like this list is cus he ignores a lot of lore since wow started, yeah malfurion couldve been number 1 if this list was made before wow the range of power with the faction leaders changed a lot

@NarutoIIPrayer

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest the tier list seems kinda biased to me too, like the video is pretty damn bad. Asmon cries "level 12" and ignores lore, but the guy making the list also ignores lore and just goes by gut feeling. Like...both videos make no sense😂

@v78michel

3 жыл бұрын

@@NarutoIIPrayer Of course it's biases it's his interpretation of best leaders

@NarutoIIPrayer

3 жыл бұрын

@@IrishBiteGirl exactly, this isn't a ranking based on "lore" otherwise the ranking would be completely different and Garrosh would be 10th at best, PLUS he put Jaina in the list but not Illidan...like wtf? It makes no sense

@quelquun8052

3 жыл бұрын

@@NarutoIIPrayer Ah yes, Illidan, the gnome leader

Man vuljin is the man don’t play him like that 💪🏾

@Mudsketch

3 жыл бұрын

Varian did die to a trash mob as well.

@gavrilo7383

3 жыл бұрын

he a disgusting disgrace to the troll race + went against Garrosh, the true and best leader of the horde

@kurtismorton7981

3 жыл бұрын

Voljin claps bolvar any day of the weak and definitely holds his own against thrall without all that dragon soul era bullshit

@jmanjman2685

3 жыл бұрын

He is just a dumb troll lol

@aristotelsb8874

3 жыл бұрын

Vol’Jin is the best character in WoW. He is a troll which already makes him incredible

Asmongold sleeping on Voljin is craziness

The horde lost something with Garrosh. We haven’t been cool since Garrosh died.

@krodmandoon3479

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who dropped WoW a while ago I don't even know who leads the Horde anymore.

@Chitown18

Ай бұрын

@@krodmandoon34792 years later I still play wow and still don’t know who’s leading the horde lol

Imagine being as based as Asmon in this video.

You need to decide when borrowed power is considered the character;s power or not. Thrall borrowing the dragon soul for a patch, Bolvar witht he help of damnation for several patches and Sylvanas getting an amp from the Jailor for several patches.

I vaguely remember Kil'jaeden saying Velen is more powerful than himself/Archimonde- Probably prior to demon corruption empowerment, but still a massive testament to Velens power. Especially being able to purify a Naaru himself.

"but what do shamans really do, they do the same things druids can do and there not as cool" "druids are more cooler, they can do more crazy shit" -asmongold tv

@mk_gamíng0609

3 жыл бұрын

The thing with Shamans is that there powers can abandon them Yes they can enslave the elements but they will always be constantly fighting back. You can have use the elements one day and the next you cant

"saurfangs useless... hes an old man" - asmongold, having paused video showing saurfang insta gibbing malfurion

Malfurion was confirmed the strongest mortal some few years ago, this guy has no idea what hes talking about lmao

@PrinceVega

3 жыл бұрын

If you'll take the time to look at his videos, you'll notice that he has a very strong Horde bias. Kinda like how Asmon is super biased towards Alliance characters. It's so hard to find an objective youtuber when it comes to WoW lore...

@hiroshiestrada3885

3 жыл бұрын

When? 2012?.

@zennim125

3 жыл бұрын

you are aware that some faction leaders are not in fact mortals right?

Illidan #1, leader of the illidari, leader of a playable class

I love how Every. Single. Alliance leader "should have been number 1" XD

@GrokeytheHunter

2 жыл бұрын

Except bolvar

>anduin has canonically brought an entire alliance army back from the brink of death at age 18 >isn't even on the list

I am sorry but Asmongold in this video goes full Pepega Mode 😂

Can you do a power ranking list with every named character in wow? like not the generic npc's with names, or even all quest givers or whatever, but all characters that are named and have notable power?

Vol'jin did more not being the Warchief. So yeah. Thrall knows that. Vol'jin only died because someone within the staff thought it be cool to rush Sylvannas as the Horde Warchief,... and you seen if that was a success or not.

I love how not biassed asmon is. all alliance leaders should be #1

Haha Asmon sure disagrees a lot for someone that doesn't care about the lore

Dimensional travel? Introduce a good version of Garrosh where he leads an assault against perhaps a bad Thrall or some other character? Though, that sounds a bit like kids show.

Vol'jin is like an 8 foot tall adonis screw all those classes he could just beat the scarlet crusade to death by hand

"That's like rating all MMA fighters and saying Im stronger cause I have a gun" Also Asmon flip flopping about whos weakest is hilarious, Voljin shouldnt be on the List and hes trash, but hes also a badass that could whoop Bolvar.... apparently...?

bet he wishes he made this video AFTER witnessing garrosh being milked

Actual top 10 most powerful leaders (in their power prime) - I don't include Velen because he isn't aggressive enough to do much. 10. Genn Greymane 9. Sylvanas (ignoring Shadowlands bad writing) 8. Tyrande 7. Jaina Proudmoore 6. Garrosh Hellscream 5. Thrall 4. Varian Wrynn / Lo'Gosh 3. Malfurion Stormrage / Illidan Stormrage (I rank both about the same, so they tie) 2. Tirion Fordring, the Ashbringer 1. Arthas Menethil, the Lich King

"he runs off by himself to confront kil'jaden and fights off hordes of demons by himself alongside powerhouses like Illidan" yes all by himself with Illidan

Velen was the biggest dick on my list because he can simply see the future. This was mentioned countless times as well as him proving it. Garrosh shouldnt be number one, Velen is the most powerful faction leader. (this is not even considering his powers of light).

@madvova118

3 жыл бұрын

Chernorook yeah alright dude the old god is honest

@luckylukas2282

3 жыл бұрын

@@BooguyTheAdept Wrong, the void shows many visions. This is cannon lore. Alleria even confirms that, the void will show lots of visions. Garrosh saw one where he wins, so he showed us the same vision. That doesn't mean that WOULD happen, it means it COULD happen.

@luckylukas2282

3 жыл бұрын

Velen is a bitch and does little to nothing, and we see NO power from him at all. Azshara is the most powerful faction leader alive. You know how this guy says "super powerful" adventurers? Azshara one shots you in the raid if you taunt her. She's literally making the Heart of Azeroth user struggle and almost die countless times without using her full power, she's using a lot of concentration to channel the Heart's power into the lock as you stand on her runes, AND hold off everyone attacking her.

ROFL I love how Asmon talks about the video being Horde biased, but he wants all the alliance leaders ranked higher than the Horde ones xD

Hirumaredx: "coming in at number X we got " Asmongold: "They should've been number 1!! Repeat for like 8 of these characters

The thing with power scaling in WoW is that it's a world where almost EVERYBODY is a glass cannon. Just like in the real world technically, a human with a gun can deal massive damage, but being able to perforate a concrete wall with a single shot doesn't mean they are physically stronger than a concrete wall. They depend too much on magic, armor and weapons. I'd say monks are the only ones that go against this just a bit, being able to not only infuse their own bodies with their own inherent life energy, but they train their bodies to be physically able to withstand massive blows even when off-guard, but still, a character that could probably nuke an entire city can still get killed if someone MANAGED to cut their throats. Of course, managing to do it would still take considerable effort, but it's POSSIBLE. This is why both Horde and Alliance still use normal assassins against powerful people, because of that small chance they work. Hell, not even dragons are except from this, if they are caught in their mortal forms, unlike with their scaly forms, their skin and internal organs are just as easy to be perforated by a sharp stone as any other human or elf, and just as easy to die from it. The thing is that, lorewise, if they look like a sword would be able to cut through them, it probably would, not always, but definitely in most cases.

Makes you realise just how neglected Taurens are in the Lore - 45 minute video and not even a glancing mention of a single Tauren. RIP Cowbois.

Based on Lore, not level in game. I read some books. Voljin is my favorite character

So Voljin was able to defeat Mogushan army but supposedly unable to strom Scarlet Crusade stronghold

Watching this again, Asmon has the reasoning skills of a 12 year old. If you asked him 'how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today' he'd only be able to respond 'But I did so what's the point?'

I'm kinda surprised how little asmon know's about greenjesus's OPness i WoW

The list put WAAAAAY too much weight in "feats if strength". It's like saying "God is theoretically powerful, but we've never seen him in a wrestling ring so we're ranking an MMA fighter higher."

@PeriodDrama

2 жыл бұрын

God isn’t real though so technically an MMA fighter is more powerful.

Gotta say - I do love that Lillian Voss track. It's a good story.

I love Asmongold’s hilarious debate on this and I think that there’s a lot to take in when it comes to power scaling these characters.

think he's missing the point its about "feats of strength" not so much how strong they actually are

@Sandalphonium

3 жыл бұрын

Being given a pretty mirror isn't a personal feat of strength

@timeandspace7018

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sandalphonium this is true, but I think it lies in what you do with that "pretty mirror" that makes it a feat of strength of your own.

@emperored7771

3 жыл бұрын

You cannot say it’s based of feats of strengths and put him at 8 when malfurion literally had the most impressive feats.

Asmon, Asmon, Asmon.... Jaina could literally oneshot Tyrande and Malfurion in the lore... arcane magic is the base of magic that these two hippies are using... their entire ppl was dying and they couldn’t do shit against Sylvanas and a bunch of undead, give us a break of your dumb alliance leaders.. Jaina and Varian was the major badasses of the Alliance not the the night-elves crybabies

@Masterwar15

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Druidism was developed to be a straight counter to mages (they use arcane magic too, but they aren't MAGES). Why I say this? Because that's the people they were against after the debacle with the demons, and well, druidism and Elune's magic won.

@darkshadow1452

3 жыл бұрын

Actually NE can really do better than what blizzard did to them when they are introduced in “WOW.” They got nerfed so bad in the franchise which makes them less interesting, but in Warcraft 3 they were one of the badass races, characters and also given their history in the lore with some of their achievements. Blizzard made them really look weak with the “Faction” powers thing and it just gotten worse for them. Tyrande and Malfurion are surely familiar with arcane magic and don’t underestimate their powers coz they are truly powerful in lore and they have way more experiences in fighting than any faction leaders, even Grommash himself was once impressed of NE’s martial prowess or savagery in fighting.

I'll be honest, the Horde really does not have that strong of leaders. Most ours seem to just die. The Alliance has Tyrande, Malfurion, Velen, etc. We had Garrosh, Thrall, Sylvanas and Vol'jin at one point and two are dead, one defected, and one lost his powers. It really is an imbalance. Though I suppose they had to make up the difference between adventurers somehow.

@AchillesofOblivion

2 жыл бұрын

Horde has nukes and weaponised plague to even the odds

I love how asmon never skips the ads... major courtesy to the Vid as well as free adspot for the advertiser!

TLDR: "yeah right man" "yeah right dude" "yeah right"

Next time I die on trash: "Loa of Death brah."

Arthas' power came from merging with Nerzhul. And Nerzhul's power came from being a shaman and then when he was transformed by Kil'jaeden he became even more powerful.

Damn I miss having a leader like Garrosh. Now the Horde is a bunch of councils of c list characters.

its funny cause there arent really levels in lore lol

Valkyrie? THE Frostmourne? This guy is a joke.

Well, one problem, not all the Scarlet Crusade can use the light, Herod is a great example, he pretty much roleplayed as a paladin because he wanted to be one, but he was just using warrior skills.

There's a quest somewhere in erm .. .forgot where Gilnaes is where Garrosh confronts Slyvannas. He was pissed that she unleashed the plague on that town. And boy was that a massive fuck up on her part.

Lilian is an absolute bad ass who help us kill whitemane and the necromancer in schoolamance

Sylvanas should be #1 because she got the most powerful artifact in the history of Warcraft: Shitty biased writers

Azshara was leader of the night elves once upon a time and at some point was said to rival the power of sargeras's most powerful followers and then went and friend up with nzoth and then helped heck him over. Also, kaelthas is also extremely powerful being a raid boss twice

@Knight1029

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but were we shown her doing something on Saergers level or were we told. He said he want to base the list on what we were shown not told.

how is chat for a wow stream whoing Lilian Voss?

The magic Pancake was so fken good I could not stop laughing.

Duuude they're going to redeem Garrosh in Shadowlands to fix their mistake, sweet.

Chat: *hears a word with letter "O"* also Chat: *replaces every letter "O" with Omegalul*

Questing in Stonetalon Mountins hits different now

Tyrande is really that low? Damn.. I know she hasn’t done shit but damn

@dylanchavez7498

3 жыл бұрын

Only according to this random ass list lol she’s much much stronger than a lot of people ranked above her lol

Asmongold speaks more with eyes then his mouth 👄 👁

Lmao Asmon is so upset that the video isn't Alliance>Horde

Cool how they resurrected the Vol'jin/Bwonsambi storyline in SL