Gets offended when Norman mentions "emotional and ignorance". Calls James White's followers stupid.

@AlexKenas

6 жыл бұрын

He goes as far as to complain about being given childish fun titles even though he revels in using them on others like the hypocrite that he is.

This is the funniest thing I’ve watched in a while!

Interesting that James White is aware of Bryan Denlinger. James White does a pretty good job showing Denlingers flaws in how he interprets things and seeing conspiracy where there isn't any. Denlinger doesn't even act as though he's read The King James Only Controversy. James White may be sarcastic, but can you blame him when guys like Bryan Denlinger make up so much nonsense? (He's against attending church buildings, interracial marriage, insurance, door to door evangelism, going to hospitals, sodoku and probably other harmless things. Every KJV Onlyist seems to be against something no one else has issues with.) KJV Onlyists in general show far more sarcasm and arrogance in the way they talk and write than any other Christian sect I've seen. And plenty of it's pastors and teachers have narcissist characteristics, which makes it more obvious in the arrogant tone they use when speaking and writing/typing.

@kara__kats4865

7 жыл бұрын

yeah it's interesting to see him respond to Denlinger! I've seen your comments on other videos

@Dj.D25

7 жыл бұрын

That's strange. He has issues with money making I know. I recall him once saying he's against people going to game shows because they worship money or mammon, even though most people go for fun I think? Maybe he thinks making money off KZread is showing laziness? If I could find a way to make money from KZread by gaining a following, I would be putting much of it to good use on mission trips.

@Dj.D25

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Most KJV Onlyists don't seem to like anyone having a hobby or being a fan of something popular anyways. I want to make Christian related videos too, but don't really know how to start.

@AlexKenas

6 жыл бұрын

He has a Patreon account, which requires people to pay to watch his videos. He is a disgustingly blatant hypocrite.

@abnersilva3645

6 жыл бұрын

AlexKenas Yeah! According to him, monetizing videos on KZread is a sin but charging one dollar per video on Patreon is ok. It's pretty ironic whenever he says someone has pride issues or that one is not logic but emotional.

Does anyone know where he gets the awesome outtro music?

The King James is by far my favorite translation. I just love the "old school" language. I also prefer the TR. That being said, I love the NKJV, HCSB and the NASB. I've had moments where the "onlyism bug" bite me, and what I've realized was its so far from Truth. There is so much hate and destruction in it. Twisting the scriptures constantly! So sad....😪

@paulrobinson9318

6 жыл бұрын

What is the TR? IF you are referring to the Textus Receptus - it was printed in 1631, but do you have a copy? While I have many dozens of ancient Bibles, I do NOT have that.

@theburningelement.6447

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I love the kjv too guss I'm a cult to ;)

@davidfigueroa8188

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Robinson The TR is still printed.

@makarov138

2 жыл бұрын

Don't throw out the Geneva Bible of 1560 and 1599. I love it! Also the William Tyndale 1527 NT is available as an updated spelling volume called The October Testament. It even has some of Tyndale's notes.

@JR-lg7fd

3 ай бұрын

Which TR? there are more than one.

It seems that this guy's whole argument amounts to "Well, isn't that interesting..." Repeating a phrase ad infinitum and imputation of guilt by association is not valid argument or refutation of anything that White has said or written. Listening to this, I can understand White being so snarky in what he says in response to this lunatic...

Love each other

@PracticalBibleStudies

2 жыл бұрын

Did you read the rest of the Bible?

@PaladinWat

2 жыл бұрын

@@PracticalBibleStudies the whole thing cover to cover :) ❤️

@PracticalBibleStudies

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaladinWat Good deal. Then you must know that it's about more than just loving each other. Especially for pastors/elders. We have to teach the full council of God through His written word. Sometimes that means calling out another brother who is teaching falsehoods.

@DjSostre7

11 ай бұрын

​@@PaladinWatI'm sure James white knows to love this man. But that is in a season of it's own. There are seasons for rebuke. Seasons for reproof, for teaching, for loving, for hating, etc. You do know Paul called out heretics by name right? Said to steer clear from them. I'm sure you're familiar.

How many of you agree with James White on Luke 23:34?

Brian self proclaimed know it all ...... brian totally cultic ..... brians teaching is mind control

KJV-ism has risen to the level of idolatry.

@xceptamanbbornagainnokingd5836

7 жыл бұрын

what do you mean by "KJV-ism"?

@herbbearingseed

7 жыл бұрын

Multi valid perversions have rizen to a level of idolatry, taking opinions as truth over that of the word of GOD. *******I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast maginified thy word ABOVE ALL thy name.*******Baltic's criticism is idolatry he worships his own opinions instead of the pure words of God. His opinions is set on top of God's pure word. EYE WOOD HAYT TWO BEE U!

@xceptamanbbornagainnokingd5836

7 жыл бұрын

all of these modern catholic counterfeits=yea hath God said the king james bible=my words shall not pass away

@xceptamanbbornagainnokingd5836

7 жыл бұрын

Henry Bemis do you think God has preserved his word for the english speaking people today?

@xceptamanbbornagainnokingd5836

7 жыл бұрын

+Truth don't talk to me about little faith when it is you can't even take in a bit of faith that God can make a perfect peace of work through flawful beings like man. what you also say is basically against what Jesus Christ himself said. he said "Heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall not pass away." so are you saying that Jesus Christ's (God's) words are passed away? because God's ways and speech is perfect. his doctrine, instructions, and commandments are perfect. so you are either calling Jesus Christ a liar, or you're lying on top of calling Jesus Christ a liar. i'm not suprised after reading some of your garbage. you talk about druidgodmen, which is found in the modern perversions and the english language today. never appears in the king james bible. james white is a joke as you are. you talk as one of little faith. just shut up because you have nothing rational to say. as for me, i have the confidence and boldness to speak for the truth because i know that my standard doesn't change. where as for people like you, your standard changes with every new standard (perversion) that comes out. i'll leave you with these words of wisdom, and a question things that are different, are not the same do you really think that if Jesus came down to earth (hypothetically) to interact with us as he did at his first coming, do you really think that he would accept all these modern versions?

I like Norman Giesler and am trying to get my hands on a lecture he did with a power point on the bias in the different versions. Anyone know where I can find that?

The KJV Only Cult is so tiresome. ....ignorant, prideful and arrogant. And very immature.

@Obediah002

5 жыл бұрын

All you have done here is attack with no facts. Oh I understand why too, because you have no facts like your father below he too has no truth in him either but lies and dispersions.

@Obediah002

5 жыл бұрын

@MartyEdlyn Wardz, without facts how am I to search out truth, or do you just want me to believe you?

@Jay-md4vy

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The nasb and esv are more accurate translations that use older manuscripts

@Obediah002

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jay-md4vy, no they are no t more accurate and those older manuscripts are the Minority corrupted Alexandrian source texts. Just look at NASB Isaiah 53:8 and see how corrupted it is, it makes no sense. It should read "He was taken through oppression and from judgment." look at Acts 8:33 KJV of course in this context. That older is better mantra makes us turn our brains off entirely.

@Jay-md4vy

5 жыл бұрын

@@Obediah002 They aren't corrupted by the vatican. Those are just lazy excuses that you king james only people like too use because you can't stand the fact that the modern version manuscripts are older and indeed more accurate. The KJV is a really good translation but it has many proven errors in it and it had like over 7 revisions. The majority of bible scholars today say that bible versions like the esv and nasb are more accurate then the KJV.

I like the King James because of the way it reads

@elizabethking5523

5 жыл бұрын

Me too!😄

@lucaslawrence761

4 жыл бұрын

Christ Saves John 3:16-17kjv that is a perfectly legitimate reason to read the KJV!

Hundreds of thousands of people are dying daily and going to Hell and Christians are spending all this time arguing "there is only one true Word of God, the KJV"! Unbelievable!?

@johnfisher6395

2 жыл бұрын

When that’s all you have that is what you do. He has to prove that he is smarter and there by justifying his hate for believers. The Catholic Church has and will always persecute true believers. How many thousands has the Catholic Church put to death for even owning a bible. Notice they are comfortable with any translation except KJV. That in itself should tell you everything you need to know about these wicked men. They destroy and tear down as they have always done and will continue to do.

@angel.v39

2 жыл бұрын

Appealing to the idea of lost souls taking precedence over the Word of God is faulty thinking. Would you whore your daughter out if it meant winning a lost soul to Christ? The ends dont justify the means to God. He takes his word more seriously than his own name (Ps. 138:2) so you should too.

@upclosepersonal

Жыл бұрын

@@johnfisher6395 well said.

@upclosepersonal

Жыл бұрын

@@johnfisher6395 by the way. Funny i ran i yo thid. Just started listening to peter Ruckman probably spelt it wrong. I think hes got it down best. Woukd like to know who could match his knowledge and wisdom.

Hello all I'm a little lost on an issue concerning the Textus Recpetus. According to Dr. White and other scholars the term Textus Receptus first appeared in the Elzevir 1633 edition of the Greek NT. Concerning the editions made by Elzevir, I see no definitive manuscript or published works that Elzevir used to make his New Testament. Does anyone who is keen on the Elzevir editions know which published works he used to create his edition?

@MagnificentFiend

Жыл бұрын

The Elzevir Greek NTs are essentially reprints of Beza's printed edition. The places where they differ are very few. Elzevir consulted no manuscripts so far as I know.

I've actually learned a lot of apologetical arguments from Norman Geisler. Glad Dr. White can respectfully disagree with him, yet still appreciate him as a person.

Brian Denlinger, always good for a laugh, this guy is quite the piece of work.

@Belak-gq3wt

4 ай бұрын

Have you watched his videos on Lord of the Rings? Pure comedy.

@acetreecare

4 ай бұрын

lol no I’ll have to check that out

It seems that the KJV translation has become some people's god??? They even comment like they are saved by a translation???

@robinshrawder3250

6 жыл бұрын

totally aggree

@ChiTownOnDeck

6 жыл бұрын

If you don't believe the words in the KJV you're not saved.

@mr.kjbbeliever3478

5 жыл бұрын

KJV is the word of God, stop critisizing it!

@yeoberry

5 жыл бұрын

+Nick: God inspired and preserved His Word in Hebrew and Greek. He didn't preserve it in the KJV. We know that because the KJV has many errors. Here's 10 errors in the KJV: 1. KJV: "robbers of churches." Acts 19:37 Greek: HIEROSULOUS, "robbers of temples" 2. KJV: "Lucifer" Is 14:12 Hebrew: "O Day Star" (Lucifer is a human origin nickname for the Devil in the 1600's refers not to the devil but the king of Babylon) 3. KJV: "Easter" Acts 12:4 Greek: "Passover" 4. KJV: "Tithes of all I possess" Lk 18:12 Greek: "all I acquire" 5. KJV: "Schoolmaster" Gal 3:24 Greek: "attendant" 6. KJV: "God save the King": 1Sam 10:24, 2Sam 16:16, 1Kings 1:25 Hebrew: "May the king live" ( reflects the British culture of the 1600's. Proof that the translators used dynamic equivalents.) 7. KJV: "God Forbid." Ro. 3:4,6,31; 6:2,15; 7:7,13; 9:14; 11:1,11; 1 Co. 6:15; Ga. 2:17; 3:21; 6:14 Greek: "may it not be" or "let it not be." (KJV adds the word God where it is absent in the TR because it was a common expression in 1600's.) 8. KJV: "sweet savour" Lev. 6:21; 8:28; 17:6; 23:18 Hebrew: "soothing aroma" 9. KJV: "ashes upon his face" 1 Kings 20:38 Hebrew: "bandage over his eyes" (KJV varies from TR by using ashes) 10. Mark 7:19b. The KJV has the Lord Jesus making a statement about excretion ("purging all meats"). Greek: the actual translation should be something like "Thus he declared all foods clean" (ESV).

@mr.kjbbeliever3478

5 жыл бұрын

@@yeoberry oh yeah? I will check these out. By the way do you have the original manuscripts? Do you fluently read, speak, and write greek and hebrew?

I had a man in our church caught up in this. I listened to him, then asked if we could watch a V.O.M video on what it means to be a christian in Syria. We watched and it shifted his focus away from condemning bible versions to praying for persecuted christian's. Can we all focus on the gospel please! By the way there are still many places in this world where reading the bible (in any version) could cost you everything.

@cjvisser5167

5 жыл бұрын

Focus on the gospel- sure, but according to which Bible version? The one that states that Jesus is God or the many others that cast doubt on that??

@samlawrence2695

10 ай бұрын

​@@cjvisser5167I preach the gospel from a Bible that declares Jesus is God. That is why I do not use the KJV which casts doubt on the deity of Christ and the Holy Spirit.

I'm gonna file a law suit against your video!! There was no warning attached saying "NOT to drink hot coffee" when watching this .....Ouch😂

@ROS14075

3 ай бұрын

😅

The most powerful video I've ever seen that annihilates King James Onlyism is the one called "Which KJV? King James Only Part 1" uploaded by Dremias5545. The guy just applied the very same KJO standards against the system itself. Hypocrisy is a requirement to be a cultic KJO, and the hypocrites were the worst enemies of Jesus.

@Proverbspsalms

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t annihilate anything- because the kjv was here before you or this other clown was born. I was being read before either of you were born. And I can promise you nothings going to change when the worms are eating both of your rotted corpses.

Today Denlinger has went into full blown anti-Trinity and calls anybody that defends the Trinity as a lost pagan.

@leia072306

3 жыл бұрын

Colossians 2:8-9 KJV

@innovationhq8230

3 жыл бұрын

@@leia072306 Bryan Denlingers godhead false doctrine fits under that.

STAND UP FOR THE ULSTER MEN!!!!!

I've watched a few of Bryan's videos, he's definitely out there.

@evo3734

3 жыл бұрын

Bryan Denlinger's logic is very easy to follow. It makes sense. If you're against Jesuits, why would you associate with Jesuits, why collaborate with Jesuits? Simple logic.

@davidbrock4104

3 жыл бұрын

I've watched several of Bryan's videos, several of Gail Riplingers videos, a few of Sam Gipp's videos, and so forth. I've read numerous KJVO articles online, was raised KJVO. 12 or so years ago, I started researching Biblical textual issues for myself. I use the KJV but also use the nkjv and MEV based on the TR. I also use the Critical Text versions such as the NASB, the ESV, even the NLT, which I use more and more for just reading. I like the World English Bible, available for free online. I just bought the Literal Standard Version, an update of the YLT, an excellent translation so far. Bryan is blinded by his cultish belief that the kjv is the only Bible that can be used.

@evo3734

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidbrock4104 Personally I don't have an issue with reading various translations. I have an nkjv and an esv, however, I think that the KJV is the best, most accurate, and most reliable english translation.

@St.David7

3 жыл бұрын

BIG TIME

@St.David7

2 жыл бұрын

@@evo3734 you're a fool if you in any way think Denlinger should be followed. He's a nut case man

Did he really just use a camera to record the monitor? 😂😂😂

I like the KJV to be read aloud. But I also like many other versions: for example, the Douay Rheims, a spanish Peshitta translation and the New American Bible (that I've just discovered and I find it startling!).

Do you recall which dividing line show this excerpt is from?

@burkeansmithite6566

7 жыл бұрын

Kirk Pearson unfortunately not

@ki7yy

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the courtesy of a reply!

@burkeansmithite6566

7 жыл бұрын

Found it kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3mG2dqgg87fqdo.html

@ki7yy

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Excellent you point this out. Tenak Talk goes into detail on this.

Best laugh I've got for a while

this clearly a cult tactic of argumentation. Character assassination vs actually addressing the topic in question.

@burkeansmithite6566

7 жыл бұрын

James Todd are you referring to denlinger or James White

@James-li8cm

7 жыл бұрын

James White was laughing at the absurdity of "Denlinger". "Denlinger" was establishing an argument of rejecting James White because he is of "unsound character" because of his associations with Jesuits and Catholics, therefor James White is bad and his arguments cannot even be entertained... He did not address a single point of argument for or against KJV - which seems to have been the real topic of discussion. this is the tactic of many "cult leaders" - don't argue the facts, turn the opposing presenter into a "bad guy"

@burkeansmithite6566

7 жыл бұрын

Well you obviously use double standards as denlinger is attacking James white

@James-li8cm

7 жыл бұрын

please help me understand what you mean. I don't see a double standard. White displayed direct action and behavior (facts), whereas Denlinger used rabbit trails to say this guy is bad and because this bad guy likes White's stuff, White must be bad. direct action vs indirect conclusion vs association. or maybe you are just looking to troll?

@burkeansmithite6566

7 жыл бұрын

James Todd do you not see what you have just done denlinger uses anything he can without being fair to attack brother White and with all respect this is my channel so I am not trolling

Which Translation should we use then? I like to read multiple translations.

@steelwarrior105

4 жыл бұрын

NASB, ESV, 1980s NIV (not newer,) NKJV, KJV is fine just understand some of the odd translations. These are the ones I like

9:40 Screen recorders are also available in freeware.

@15:54 they both started looking for books at the same time 😂

18:50 lol He says "google it, get an education" XD as a former KJVO all they rely on is google and some of the poorly written tertiary sources that are produced by Gipp and others.

@samuelbarrett5701

7 жыл бұрын

just so i dont misunderstand you, are you calling me an apostate? or Bryan Denlinger? Or James white?

@samuelbarrett5701

7 жыл бұрын

what makes you think i am a bible-rejecting apostate?

@samuelbarrett5701

7 жыл бұрын

no please, i insist, what makes you think i reject the bible?

@route2033

7 жыл бұрын

Samuel Barrett because he thinks the KJV is a synonym for the word of God. They almost brain washed me when I was first converted. I'm glad i found men who actually logically explain the issues. then you listen to them and this is the arguement. better be reading the KJV. new age translations Jesuits occult bla bla.bla.

@samuelbarrett5701

7 жыл бұрын

Matt Travers what fooled me was the sources, once you research the legitimacy of both the author and the claim, it falls apart

15:00 as a former IFB KJVO, I can honestly say until I left that movement my views on the Trinity and any real Christology were poor... AT BEST. The Ruckmanites and all their little brothers claim that idiotic Trail of Blood revisionist history, which claims that they decended from Nestorians! Which is funny! And THEY claim the Nestorians because "they stood up against Mariolatry". Uh, no. Mary worship didn't take off until the medieval era. But you know what Nestorians DID believe? That Christ in the womb was not God. Yup. Because they didn't want to explain how Mary was the mother of God the Son, they just decided it was better that Jesus was conceived and born and would be "adopted" as the Father's Son after birth. Which, I guess since Ruckmanites ignore everything else in church history, why not any kind of meaningful discussion on the Trinity. Which is why I think they really go after The Forgotten Trinity. It's because they lack the attention to basic Christian theology because they've been defending an Anglican (who baptized infants, by the way) translation of the Scriptures that was based upon critical texts (yes, the KJV translators DID some critical text analysis between different Bible versions) of a copy of Greek manuscripts written by a Catholic with access to 6 manuscripts and had to rely on the Vulgate translation for Revelation. And the Vulgate used a Byzantine Text of Revelation which was created by some gnostics for mystery religions. Ruckmanites would know that if they studied church history, but they're more content to just laying back and claiming that history has purposefully been altered against them, even though the IFB didn't exist until the 19th century. Go figure.

@luke11.28apologetics

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly bro. It is really that simple. If Christ was God in the womb, then Mary is Theotokos. Problem is western theology tends to have a wacky order of theology, Ruckmanites start with Sola Scriptura so their Christology is totally flawed.

What's crazy is that I've been praying that the Holy Spirit reveals the answer this particular issue to me. This morning, before I went to work I was looking at videos of the man he used as an example, husky something, talking about the trinity and husky did not have a firm grasp of the Godhead so he was foolishly misconstruing scripture to make a point of something he thinks many believe when they do not. The trinity (Godhead) is three IN one and he kept making it seem as if many Christian people see them as separate. Yes Christ was the Godhead bodily, but what happened at Jesus baptism? The Godhead was revealed, the voice of the Father, Christ in the flesh, and the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove. They are all God but husky was using poor logic to try to disprove something that i don't even believe. He kept saying the Trinity is polytheistic. Then I stumble on this video and many others.

"controlled opposition by the Catholic church" freakin hilarious!

The KJV is nothing but an IDOL today.

@miguelz8721

5 жыл бұрын

The word of God is an IDOL ??? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

I use KJV but I am not King James Only. I use it because its the majority text and that is what should be used. however, I dont act like those who disagree are somehow not Christian.

@tylerworrell4446

4 жыл бұрын

The KJV is not based on the majority text.

It's funny. I'm a Catholic and I read White's book, and in it he criticized both the Vulgate and the NAB (an official Catholic Bible as well as my Bible of choice) so i didn't feel like he was really doing my faith any favors

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+ Miles Leavitt He was simply dealing with FACTS. Facts do no favors - they just ARE. "It's funny. I'm a Catholic and I read White's book, and in it he criticized both the Vulgate and the NAB (an official Catholic Bible as well as my Bible of choice) so i didn't feel like he was really doing my faith any favors "

One of the most bizarre KJV only claims I've personally heard is "the KJV is in biblical English". If that's the case then you need to add Shakespeare's plays to the canon.

@goyonman9655

Жыл бұрын

But that is the crux of the issue. KJV Onlyist regard 16th and 17th century English the way many Catholics regard latin - as a sacred language It's the language they imagine G-D speaking

@svrsl7819

9 ай бұрын

@@goyonman9655 yeah that's really sad and ironically an ancient pagan belief, the idea that wording something in a certain language makes it divine and holy. like hieroglyphs, "holy letters" or as you mentioned the latin rite, KJVO have the shakespearean rite.

James White will never submit to a final authority, instead he spends his time making you think you need him to discover truth. He places his opinion over all translations and texts. If you think the is a mistake in the KJV maybe you are not as smart as you think.

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+Albert Gass YOU are simply lying - as KJO Cultistsa do almost every time they comment. "James White will never submit to a final authority,"" What final authority are you referring to? The KJB is most definitely NOT a final authority on anything - I would suggest its YOU that refuses to bow to a final authority - the closest we come to that are the modern accurate Bibles based on the text of the early church NOT the catholic "conjectural emendations" of a couple Catholic theologians working from 8 Catholic partial and corrupted texts. "instead he spends his time making you think you need him to discover truth." That is another deliberate lie - he had NEVER done any such thing. Talk about lying to deflect from your ignorance and illiteracy about the corruption and never ending errors of the Catholic KJB. "He places his opinion over all translations and texts. Quite the opposite - unlike you he HAS an opinion on almost all the tests - can quote many of them from memory and is more than qualified to express an opinion - where as you are NOT. NO KJO cultist has ever made a rational argument against him - your lies will not succeed where they have failed. YOU are blowing smoke to cover your ignorance. " If you think the is a mistake in the KJV maybe you are not as smart as you think. " When you get half as smart as White - maybe even a tenth as smart - and know the ancient texts by HEART - NOT just the KJB - Then you can make your asinine, ignorance-based comments. TIL then - anyone who can even suggest there are NOT a hundred of more errors in the KJB, and ,maybe 33000 words that have been inserted over time by Catholic popes, priests theologians and monks - simply hasn't both oars in the water, or has never even READ the KJB - even serious scholarly deceived cultic KJO committees don't make that claim. Its an error filled corruption from Catholic text translated at the insistence so a sodomite Catholic for his state Catholic church to remove the Protestant Geneva - at least an HONEST translated from corrupted Catholic texts.

@albertgass9962

5 жыл бұрын

Hey, pope Paul Robinson you have no idea what you are talking about. you probably even made James White cringe. So go ahead,be a man,show me where all the mistakes are in the KJB knowing that you’ll have to stand before God someday and explain yourself. Rev 22:18-19

@MichaelSmith-ng9gc

Жыл бұрын

That's a ridiculous comment

Imagine that!! Use the spacebar to stop video!! I have used the "K" key previously... SPACEBAR from now on!! And yes, I am following the video with interest, thanks for the spacebar tip!! God Bless and much love from the Oklahoma Grandma

I think the best response of Mr White to Bryan is Matthew 5:44-45 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. - thanks

Most engaged in KJV-onlyism reduce everything to a "them and us" mentality. Simplistic.

@cliffordnewby6092

7 жыл бұрын

You have a problem with someone by faith believing the word of God. How about the faith in the Son of God, Jesus Christ? Or is that to simple and norrow minded?

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

+Clifford Newby: They don't have faith in the Word of God. They have faith in an early 17th century Anglican translation. There's a big difference.

@King_James_Bible

6 жыл бұрын

yeoberry Because the capital W Word of God is the Lord Jesus Christ, and in English, the lowercase w word of God is the King James Bible. And yes, we absolutely have faith in the first one, and he gave us the second one!

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

+Bible believing vato: The KJV is not the word of God. It's an early 17th century Anglican translation based on late manuscripts compiled by a Catholic monk, by scholars who didn't know what some words meant (like "Beulah"), made obvious mistakes (like "Easter" in Acts 12:4) and under pressure from a king who forced them to mistranslate "episcopas" as "bishop" to make it sound as if the Bible supported his state church.

@paulrobinson9318

6 жыл бұрын

AND the Divine Right of Kings - which is why JAMES ordered the replacement of the Geneva Bible

I used to be a bit of a KJV onlyist. I wasn't as bad as the kjv onlyists that think that people who used other versions aren't saved. But I did think that kjv was the best version and that the newer versions were inaccurate. I seen the arguments people made such as "The newer versions have missing verses!" or "The newer versions changed these verses!" And I just accepted these arguments as true. But when I actually began to learn what the Greek manuscripts said I've come to the realization that its not the newer versions that are in the wrong, but the kjv. The KJV added a lot of verses or changed verses. One example is 1 John 5:7. In the kjv it is written "father, son, and spirit" but the earlier Greek says something completely different. Now I'm not saying the kjv is a bad bible. Its my personal favorite version to read. But its not the most accurate as kjv onlyists would have you believe. The kjv only ideology is simply fueled by misinformation and lack of understanding of textual criticism.

@divanshivohra9341

Жыл бұрын

What is greek bible says?

@babyjake-

Жыл бұрын

"...Father, theWord, and the Holy Ghost, and these 3 are one". I can't read Greek. What does it say.

1 Timothy 3:16 K.J.V And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: 👉God👈 was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16 1Ti 3:16 E.S.V Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. E.S.V Who is the word "He" referring to God or satan to someone who is, not a believer or a roman Catholic? How do you think someone who reads this for the first time who is not a believer is going to view (he) when reading the e.s.v? Also: 1John 4:3 K.J.V And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1John 4:3 The e.s.v has the spirit of antichrist in (1 Timothy 3:16 of the e.s.v) as well as other parts where the e.s.v denys the deity of God. E.s.v takes away the deity of God in (Luke2:33 e.s.v), in doing so also disobeys (Matthew 23:9). Matthew 23:9 E.S.V And call NO man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Matthew 23:9 In (Luk 2:33 E.S.V) lower case "f" Luk 2:33 E.S.V And his father and his mother marveled at what was said about him. Luk 2:33 Matthew 23:9 K.J.V And call NO man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Matthew 23:9 Luke 2:33 K.J.V And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. Luke 2:33 John 3:16 K.J.V For God so loved the world, that he gave his only 👉begotten👈 Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 The e.s.v takes way from the deity of God (John 3:16 E.S.V) "begotten" is gone. John 3:16 E.S.V “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 Lets look at another. Matthew 20:20 K.J.V Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, WORSHIPPING him, and desiring a certain thing of him. Matthew 20:20 (Matthew 20:20 e.s.v) word worshipping is gone. Matthew 20:20 E.S.V Then the mother of the sons of Zebedee came up to him with her sons, and kneeling before him she asked him for something. Matthew 20:20 Isa 8:20 K.J.V To the 👉LAW👈 and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it isbecause there is no light in them. Isa 8:20 Isa 8:20 E.S.V To the teaching and to the testimony! If they will not speak according to this word, it is because they have no 👉DAWN.👈 Isa 8:20 Dawn can mean the morning light as was as its a name of a soap. Now take this verse and look in (Isa.14:12 e.s.v) Isa 14:12 E.S.V “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of 👉Dawn!👈 How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! Isa 14:12 To use the word like is better. Matthew 5:16 K.J.V Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:16 I pray for the people who are roman Catholic as well as others. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJl8uLqmhJfdlbA.html

every time the guy says "how about that" it makes me think of the baseball announcer from the naked gun

This non sense is exactly why demons are eating Christian's for lunch when we should be putting our heads together and getting more souls to Christ and getting ready in strength and scripture for the living word for the very near end of days....really? This is what we are doing instead of spreading the gospel? This is why some want nothing to do with us!

@jacobchesney1558

6 жыл бұрын

You might have misunderstood the video. The person Dr. White is criticizing is someone who heretically holds a version of the bible up above other versions. And in such a way that anyone who disagrees with that one version being the only version of God's word, would be damned. KJVO asserts that you can only have salvation from the scriptures of the KJV bible. These people worship a version, not the God of Scripture. So he is exposing cultism that is catastrophically dangerous to weaker brethren. This IS the spreading of the Gospel by way of pointing out and denouncing heretics.

@christianlabor5553

6 жыл бұрын

I tend to believe that if someone wants nothing to do with Christ, it is less because of the imperfection of Christians than that they dislike the perfection of Christ. It is a given that Christians are still fallible.

@Entrailss

5 жыл бұрын

Demons are eating Christians..? 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one." - John 10:27-30

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+Christian Labor YOU don't think it may also be about expecting them to learn a foreign or at least archaic language to BE a Christian may turn a LOT of them off before they even hear you out? THAT is the curse of the Judiazer-style cult the KJO movement has become - and that is why White points out its heresies and errors. IT would be great IF we didn't have these heretics destroying the church - BUT Paul had them in Galatia - and we have the KJO cultists in the Ennflish speaking world.. "I tend to believe that if someone wants nothing to do with Christ, it is less because of the imperfection of Christians than that they dislike the perfection of Christ. It is a given that Christians are still fallible.

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+ Mel V SO what point were you making? "Demons are eating Christians..? 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one." - John 10:27-30 " YOU don't think there is a GREAT apostacy? YOU quote ONLY the verses that make a point from the perspective of SAFETY from outside attack - but you ignore so many others that place the responsibility of ABIDING in Christ in the hands of the believer. While we are secure as believers from any outside attacks - we STILL have a free will. YES, Demons ARE eating Christians - and false teaching and cultish heresy are contributors. BUT it's their CHOICE to go after seducing spirits and false cults.

10:26 "Ignatius" 😂

John 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Because the Bible is a crucial element in teaching the ‘faith’, it is inevitable that it will be attacked in some form or other, so as Satan can continue his work. Jesus came to destroy the work of the devil, but God in His wisdom, uses Satan as a foil and a test to His children. Judges 2:20 ''And the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel; and he said, Because that this people hath transgressed my covenant which I commanded their fathers, and have not hearkened unto my voice; 21 I also will not henceforth drive out any from before them of the nations which Joshua left when he died: 22 That through them I may prove Israel, whether they will keep the way of the LORD to walk therein, as their fathers did keep it, or not. 23 Therefore the LORD left those nations, without driving them out hastily; neither delivered he them into the hand of Joshua.'' My principal concern is not that the King James Bible is viciously corrupt (which it is not), but there are certain biases in it, enough to cause today’s interpreters to consider deeply the prejudices contained in the 1611 version. This comes from dealing with a King James ‘’onlyite’’ pastor who was almost rabid in my questioning, for example, the few edition of the King James Bible, editions or minor corrections. To my understanding, that was not loyalty to the word, but bibliolatry of the worse kind. The chronological exceptions concerns the ‘authority’ supposed in church elders, which to the mind of King James VI, was just an extension of his own authority, the danger that was illustrated by Charles II, and he lost his head for insisting upon the divine right of kings - something that the Bible clearly refutes as God’s preferred method of ruler-ship. [See Samuel, and Israel’s demand for a king.] • The use of the word ‘pastors’ was unnecessary, as the same word was always ‘elder’, except in Ephesians 4. • Which KJV is inspired, since it was revised four times, the last being in 1769? • What Bible would these KJV worshippers recommend since before 1611 there was no Bible? • Do they realize that the apostle Paul did not use the KJV? • The King James Bible is largely the work of William Tyndale, who was born quite near where I live. • Schoolmaster Galatians 3:24 actually means attendant, or childminder: the law was the one who brought us to Christ, not taught. • Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12 is O Day Star" (Lucifer is a human origin nickname for the Devil in the 1600's refers not to the devil but the king of Babylon) I have been convicted from the King James Bible, have been inspired by the King James Bible, and ministered from the King James Bible. It is better English than the majority of modern versions, and certainly as if not more readable than those versions. The NIV reads like a communique from the European Union.

I swear I watch Denlinger’s videos all the time just to have a laugh

I have many questions for the KJV Onlyist, knowing that most of these questions they would not be able to answer with a legitimate response. But one in particular is that if you believe that the KJV is the only perfect Bible then what did people (in particular in English speaking countries) have all of those years prior to 1611?

@peterengland8131

7 жыл бұрын

People were angry the first time their Latin version was updated ages before the KJV. In the future, when NIV sounds old-fashioned, some people won't want it updated to the next "modern" language. James White jokes about some people preferring the "re-inspired" Klingon version.

@King_James_Bible

6 жыл бұрын

OkieAllDay Well that depends on what the language is that you’re referring to: If you’re talkin’ about Spanish, you’d have had the Valera 1602 Bible in common use. If French, it was the Olivetan Bible. If German, it was Martin Luther’s Helige (Is that how you spell it?) Schrift. If English, you’d have had either the Geneva Bible, or the Bishops’ (or Bishop’s) Bible. And others!

@King_James_Bible

6 жыл бұрын

And if you think that that undoes the perfection of the King James Bible, you’re wrong, and here’s why: you people would easily point out this quotation from the Translators to the Reader, “Truly, good Christian Reader, we never thought from the beginning that we should need to make a new translation, not yet to make to make of a bad one a good one; (for then the imputation of Sixtus had been true in some sort, that our people had been fed with gall of dragons instead of wine, and whey instead of milk;) but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones one principal good one, not just to be expected against; that hath been our endeavor, that our mark.”, and say, Well, that’s why they translated the King James Bible. That’s true, but, to use that to justify makin’ HUNDREDS of new versions/“revisions” of the Bible, is not a valid argument, because, the translation process for the English Bible (for us) started in the 1300s with John Wycliffe, and ended in the year 1611, which would mean you had 1: John Wycliffe 2: William Tyndale 3: the Coverdale Bible, named after Myles Coverdale 4: the Great Bible 5: the Bishops’ (again, or Bishop’s) Bible 6: the Geneva Bible And finally, 7: the King James Bible But for y’all? It started with Westcott and Hort in 1884, and it continues to this day, which is, what, 133 years?!?!?! And yet they still continue to come out, and ya STILL don’t have a perfect Bible in English?!? Not only is that nowhere near the true intention of the King James translators, but it’s also not the intention of the Holy Spirit: continually make revisions and revisions and revisions and revisions for over a hundred years, and STILL not have a perfect Bible!

@paulrobinson9318

6 жыл бұрын

You make no sense at all. You also utterly ignore the dozen or so revisions of the KJB over 4 centuries. Ignoring reality and evidence is a mark of a cultist. Language changes. Hence the Word of God of Jesus time was translated into Greek - with many errors - but the apostles used it. There will NEVER be a perfect translation of any Bible - for we do NOT have the originals - and after the second copy there were errors - the problem with the KJB is that it is an imperially-mandated revision (not a translation as some claim) of Bibles based on the Works of Erasmus. He wrote of his justification for INSERTING passages into the text that had NEVER been there in any previous Greek text. Yet somehow that all is ignored in the utter illiteracy of the KJO cultist and assumed to be the words of GOD - they are NOT! They are the words of a Catholic monk. AS we discover older and more complete MSS and texts - it is ONLY good scholarship and stewardship to make them available in future revisions of the Scriptures - we KNOW the AD1200 or so copies Erasmus had already had many insertions, some deletions, and personal opinion (Stephanus for example) - all included in the text of the KJB. Historically affirmed corruption. So I would be rather hesitant to make a statement on what the intent of the Holy Spirit is - making the intent of the HS conform to the wishes of your CULT may NOT be accurate. Those that reject the KJB as the final authority are operating in the spirit of the command to STUDY to be a workman. Scholarship was ALWAYS prized by spiritual people of God The KJO cultists reject it. WHY?

i’m going to get both the ESV and The KJV So I can compare the two so I can see the errors for myself I’m going to get them in audio form because I can’t read well at all

@QZXproductions

5 жыл бұрын

David Agosta I know it's been four months, but I recommend you check out Bible Gateway. It's free online, has pretty much every known version, and has an audio option. I use it frequently.

Telling someone they're emotional and ignorant isn't an attack. Neither emotional or ignorant is an insult. I fully acknowledge that I myself am emotional and ignorant at times. There are many areas of theology that I am simply UNLEARNED in. i.e., IGNORANT

well i love Kjv bibles in fact i have 3 copies of those but it is not logical to be a sola king james-onlyism user for the reason that you might think that it is the only correct and infallible word of God. again i love kjv but if you are honest enough to do a word study, you will see that there are a lots of words that kjv miss translated. sole deo gloria

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+@IMarkovic1995 AHHH - at last - An intelligent, rational and honest KJ reader. Don't find many in these parts . . .

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+@@justinbernal1 The standard is the oldest majority text we can find in the original languages. We NOW have some 5000 in Greek alone, dating back to the second century with a possibility of even the FIRST century. Another standard is other language Bibles that were translated from the Greek and Aramaic texts in the first and second centuries - and later - before the Catholic church began to insert IT'S opinions, etc. into the text - and before their method of copying inserted errors upon errors into the text. WE KNOW they did this - sometimes intentionally - in 1522 or so Erasmus wrote about WHY and WHEN he inserted the CJ into 1 John 5:7 - while admitting that his Greek text containing that, was unlike any other Greek text in the world - THAT's in the KJB but doesn't belong there as its NOT inspired - NOT in any Bible ever before about 800 AD - neither are the other 33000 or so words ADDED over the years by scribes and priests - and religious quacks. NO scripture and verse is available to prove that - EITHER way - verses about GOD preserving his word are always a twisting of the verse, like Ps 12: 6&7 Preserve "THEM" (or "US" in many accurate translations) can ONLY refer to PEOPLE - but the KJO cultists claim it refers to words - IMPOSSIBLE in Hebrew to be so. Scripture and verse is SUBJECT to the study of its sources - and those sources used in the KJB were terribly corrupt - having come from 8 partial Catholic Greek texts assembled by a Catholic humanist theologian and dedicated to Pope Leo X - and subsequently approved for use in all Catholic institutions. Later the KJB was translated by 42 or so English Catholic clergymen- and 4 Puritans who were disgusted with the finished product - one refused to allow it in his pulpit - assembled, paid for and promoted by the Sodomite and spiritist, King James (His book on spiritism is still available on Amazon) and revered by KJO cultists as the perfect word of GOD - that inspite of God's PERFECT Bible having 3000 errors when published, taught Purgatory and prayer for the dead,salvation by alms, etc Even today is still contains up to 200 serious errors limiting Jesus to Savior but NOT God in several places - depersonalizing the Holy Spirit as an IT - BOTH in agreement with the JWs; BOTH opposed to orthodox Christian teaching.

@KingjamesAV1611

5 жыл бұрын

@@paulrobinson9318 ......the KJV is the Word of God!!! Your trying to prove a case for catholic involvement, while this turd James white, whom im sure you love, advocates for the NIV (nearly inspired version), which hangs it hat on the codex Vaticanius!!! LOL. What a joke

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+@MartyEdlyn Wardz And INSANE arguments corm from _____________ people . . . Of course the arguments are insane - MOST of them are demonic. AND many of their leadership are utterly corrupt - Riplinger and Ruckman are/were BOTH serial adulterers - Jack Hyles church, one of the hotbeds of KJOism had something like 7 of their pastors accused and convicted of cross state line underage sex - the list is endless - the lies of these perverts is unknown to the poor deceived ones who follow them as gods. I have been dealing with one who thinks he is a bible teacher - and the lies are irrationality are endless - twisting anything presented as something entirely opposite His claim that the perverted NIV changed Psa 12: 7 (their ONLY prooftext of the preservation of the KJB) to mean people rather than words - as in GOD will preserve His words - which is contradicted by BOTH the Young's Literal Bible of the mid 1800's and Charles Spurgeon - from the same era (and every other Bible) - its ONLY desperation that makes some of these ungodly biblical deceptions possible. For reference: SO here is a overview of Riplinger's claims and detailed refutation of some of her lies and deception that gullible fanatical KJO Christians in need of cultish support for their fanaticism never ever investigate: bible.org/article/why-respond-gail-riplinger Evidence of her lies about Westcott - of which she is well aware having been told many times - BUT it is too expensive to revise her book and give up her moneystream just for the sake of TRUTH: www.westcotthort.com/jmay/ghostlieguild.html And many of her lies about the NIV are corrected here: www.dropbox.com/s/czy6gk22evqslo7/ME%20and%20My%20Perverted%20NIV.pdf?dl=0

The Protestant doctrine of sola scriptura teaches that God has providentally preserved his Word in history. The real question is not King James vs. modern text, but do we have the Word of God or was the perfect revelation of the original manuscripts lost in translation? Scripture is incorruptible as a reflection of God's character and could not have been lost. Unfortunately most Baptistics like Dr. White and neo-Protestants do not think we really have the Bible anymore. Also remember that heretical churches, feminists, cults, etc rely on the modern versions to promote their agendas. On the other hand the great awakenings and great century of missions were accomplished via the King James and foreign Textus Receptus translations, and to this day churches that use the King James version are not heretical. It is fair to say that Dr. White is a modern-text onlyist even though he claims that no text or translation can truly be the Word of God today.

@Obediah002

5 жыл бұрын

The Dead Sea Scroll prove the KJV is identical text after 2000 years, this is why they are silent, if it had been different or supported the Vulgate/Sinatic texts the would of said so from the highest places but they have been DEAD silent because they are confirming he Received Text. White is a total fraud, smooth talker maybe but he has not fooled me one whit!

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+ Obediah002 "The Dead Sea Scroll prove the KJV is identical text after 2000 years," That is a deliberate lie - now you have NO excuse for I have corrected that lie you tell several times, and you STILL repeat it "this is why they are silent, " And another lie - the Bible scholars are NOT silent in any way - the DSS prove parts of the OT are missing from your KJB - and I cited examples and references previously to you and you lied then, you are lying NOW. "if it had been different or supported the Vulgate/Sinatic texts the would of said so from the highest places. The text is NOT the issue - and the DSS have been well publicized. " but they have been DEAD silent because" A lie repeated . . . " they are confirming he Received Text. ' YOU lie yet again . . . They don't. They ONLY relate to the OT. "White is a total fraud, smooth talker maybe but he has not fooled me one whit! " YOU are too ignorant to even comprehend what White says - we have proven that before . . . . pity your foolish attempts at sounding intelligent and knowing the Bible. YOU promised me 100 personal examples from a list you claim to keep, of where the KJB is correct and the modern accurate Bibles wrong - so far you have given me ONE - and it blew up in your face - where are the other 99? I note you have ONLY given me a Seventh-Day Adventist cult's youtube video as support for your failure to ever have fouind 100 errors in the Modern Bibles. WHY do you lie for Jesus - no, that's wrong, you LIE for your cult . . . You lie to protect the KJB

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+J Shirls "The Protestant doctrine of sola scriptura teaches that God has providentally preserved his Word in history." NO, it does NOT. Show me one place that is a requirement of the Sola Scriptura concept. YOU cannot. Sola Scriptura came from the Latin Catholic culture under Luther - and that Bible he was referring to is vastly different than your KJ. "The real question is not King James vs. modern text, but do we have the Word of God or was the perfect revelation of the original manuscripts lost in translation? " WELL obviously the perfection was lost - we know of 140,000 variants in the ancient texts - they cannot ALL be the perfect word of GOD. And we know that the Textus Receptus agrees with NO ancient texts or Bibles used by the early church. We KNOW there were insertions and additions made to the TR that were NOT in any previous Greek text. This is simple History - and denial of the FACTS will NOT help your case. "Scripture is incorruptible as a reflection of God's character and could not have been lost." Based on what leap of LOGOC? AS we find more and more evidence for the original texts of the NT - YOU and your cult reject each any and every attempt to pass along to the populace the more accurate and easily understood Words of GOD - you have to admit that is utter hypocrisy. "Unfortunately most Baptistics like Dr. White and neo-Protestants do not think we really have the Bible anymore." WRONG. Like any Christian of history before the KJO cult began in the 1930's out of the SDA cult - there was NO question and it was freely admitted that we did NOT have the most accurate and complete Words of God - yet there have always been the Pharisees that opposed any improvement - it happened when every translation in history was presented - from Luther to the NKJB. Some complaints were justified - English Christians rejected the KJB for some 70 years as political, popish and failed - it was NOT a Protestant Bible and persecution of those rejecting it was still church policy. And its NOT an ANYMORE situation - we have far more of God's word today than we did in 1611 - and we understand KOINE Greek far better - hence corrupted verses like Titus 2:13 are so much plainer and more orthodox than in the corrupted Catholic texts used for the KJB. And the modern English statements are far less wishy-washy on the divinity of Christ, the Trinity and other core doctrines - all of which the KJB has corrupted. "Also remember that heretical churches, feminists, cults, etc rely on the modern versions to promote their agendas. " UIttery false - name ONE? YOU cannot. Every cult you can mention today was founded on the KJB. On the other hand the great awakenings and great century of missions were accomplished via the King James and foreign Textus Receptus translations, " More false statements. Wesley has no use for the KJB and made his own translation - MOST of the revivals were based on the Geneva - NOT the KJB. The Textus Receptus was corrupted and that is right from Erasmus himself - the author of it. Johnathan Edwards was a Puritan - and as a group, they despised the KJB. They used the Geneva. Whitfield used the Greek and probably the Geneva. His quotation to Franklin: "Unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God" is neither Geneva NOR KJB. YOU would have a hard time finding a revival based on the KJB. I would suggest that extends to Major Missions as well. Name me ONE based on the KJB? I need to be educated . . . "and to this day churches that use the King James version are not heretical." Utter rubbish - how about the LDS? How about the Freemasons? How about Westboro Baptist or Steve Anderson - BOTH boils on the backside of Christianity - and BOTH KJO fanatics. How about the Flat earth movement based on the corruptions in the KJB? The Black Israelite movement? Father Divine? The Sacred name movement? And so many others Every heresy in vogue today is rooted in the KJB. Armstrong, Jones, Smith, White and Russel all used the KJB - their cults could NOT survive the bright light of modern scholarship. YOU are totally wrong in your ignorant statement. "It is fair to say that Dr. White is a modern-text onlyist even though he claims that no text or translation can truly be the Word of God today." YOU are simply lying. He is an ancient text-onlyist - as any intelligent Christin OUGHT to be. OUR orthodox Christian faith is based on the writings of the first and second-century writers - your faith is based on some incomplete 12th-century texts - amended, edited, added to and opined on by Catholic scholars - and you think that is as reliable as the second-century texts we have today? Really7? Try being a BIBLICAL Christian and NOT a cultic Pharisee.

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+@Peasant Scrublord As I understand it there is ONE Fragment of a copy of John previously dated to about 110 - that is NOW being considered for a date of 78 AD. I made the comment offhandedly - but I know its an accurate recollection - of P 52 if I remember right - - finding the support would take time as my office is being re-drywalled. There is considerable support for the early second century date.

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+@Peasant Scrublord YOU would have to gibe me a month til my office is finished and unpacked - i am sure you could find it on the net with some effort. In any event - 120 or 78 - makes little difference - its REAL early ;-). IF you post me in 30 days I will be better able to answer you.

I didn't know that was how you pronounced the name of that symbol. That actually makes a lot more sense! 😀

It just seems like legalism to me. There's no grace in it, it causes divisions among the body. Like Paul asked the Corinthians to be one in understanding and in conviction (or judgement). The body is called to be unified. That's the truth, the reason the church has been SO WEAK for such a long time is because the unity of the church is lost, the love for each other has grown cold and we have become focused on the concept instead of the person of God and we've relied on out own striving instead of living under grace.

I must admit the video is HILARIOUS!

It is the center of a saved born again Christian. There is nothing cultish about it.

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+Karen Bonville YOU are seriously mistaken or you are deliberately lying - pick one there is NO third option. "It is the center of a saved born again Christian. There is nothing cultish about it." The KJO cults has damned MORE souls to hell in the past several generations than anything else you can think of . . . STOP thinking like a brainwashed cultist and START thinking like a Christian - the NT texts given the NT church are NOT the KJB - NOT even close. The KJB has added 33,000 or so word - uninspired opinions and comments from CATHOLIC popes, priests and monks - that were NEVER in the Words of GOD delivered to the saints - the EVIDENCE is overwhelming.

the ironic thing to me, upon reading the comments, isn't the profound ignorance of church history, archeological findings since the 1500s, and the development of best practices in bible translation that are shown by those who think there can only be one manuscript, like those who are kjvo. Rather, it's what people have said about sincere christians who've made it their life's work to render the Holy Bible into an understandable, historically accurate and faithful-to-the-original languages product. it's the SLANDER against the team members who translated accurate versions with excellent skill and dedication.

Know who turned me on to James White in 1996? My Independent Fundamental Baptist Bible College I went to. Every semester I went there, the more I saw how bad the "education" I was getting. So whoever they preached against-went out and bought their books. Of course am no longer a IFB.

@AlexKenas

7 жыл бұрын

The IFB cult will destroy itself by its seditious and separatist nature. They oppose other denominations and each other as Steven Anderson has proven.

It's legit terrifying that some KJV onlyists are this delusional. I'm waiting for Chick to start performing a hex curse or something.

@Bleeks

2 жыл бұрын

Bro, last week I found a KJVO preaching KJV on the street corner young and Dundas in Toronto, the biggest pedestrian intersection in North America even more then time square, and no one even knows what a KJV is... The dude started to make false accusations calling me a Catholic and saying I am a hater of God because I pulled out the ESV. THE man even said the ESV is wrong because it left out the word begotten in John 3:16 🤣🤣🤣

@stevenl1706

Жыл бұрын

@@Bleeks uh yeah…it is wrong to take out the word ‘begotten.’ ESV says “he gave his ONLY Son” and the KJV says “he gave his only BEGOTTEN Son.” Um…if God only has one son, then none of us can be children of God you idiot. But the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God shows that he is from God and comes out from God and is God. If God only has ONE Son, then none of us can be made sons of God. Your making fun of it shows your ignorance. Edit: also taking out the word begotten takes away from the fact that Jesus Christ is eternal and eternally God, the express image of God himself. So you can ignorantly mock and scoff all you want, but you’re actually mocking and scoffing at the Lord, so joke is on you.

@livingforjesus8551

10 ай бұрын

​@@Bleeks What does that verse say in the esv?

@WeldingForJesus

5 ай бұрын

​​@@livingforjesus8551It says: "“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." So, basically the word "begotten" is just removed. Same thing goes for the NASB as it is very similar to the ESV.

@livingforjesus8551

5 ай бұрын

@@WeldingForJesus Begotten is a very important word though, it denotes that he is God child from his heritage, because we are sons too, and so are angels, and if you only use the word son, that can mean anyone, or an angel, and ad the jehovah witnesses claim, that it was Michael the archangel. So, without having the word begotten in there, that verse can support their doctrin, that it was an angel that sacrifice himself, instead of God in the flesh.

Incredible seeing the amount of ad hominem fallacies against White.... I've always found it strange how many KJVO's are vehemently against Calvinism even though the KJV was translated by Calvinist scholars....

@baltichammer6162

7 жыл бұрын

I've met plenty of Calvinists who were KJV-onlyists.

@skippy8696

7 жыл бұрын

A 'satanist'? Are you kidding m8? I've heard this kind of language by KJV-onlyists before. It's unbecoming of a Christian. And yes, I do read the KJV bible. It was the first bible I ever read and it's probably my favorite translation overall, simply because it's so sharp and poetic. To me, it just sounds like God's word should sound. However, I do not place it on a pedestal or anything and I give newer translation a chance (mostly the ESV and sometimes the NASB). KJV-onlyism is a stumbling block for anyone who tries to engage in serious apologetics with people like Jehovah's Witnesses, which I happen to do regularly. In cases like this, the NKJV is much better because it supplies you with footnotes showing where the TR differs from the Nestles text and the majority text. KJV-onlyism also places a massive restriction on you in terms of learning materials. I've seen KJV-onlyists refuse to try out excellent study materials like the ESV study bible solely based on the translation. You're seriously missing out on great resources by placing this unnecessary burden upon yourself.

@stephenzevetchin

7 жыл бұрын

Skippy McOz dont know what satanist means?

@youhi2030

6 жыл бұрын

acolytes777 So you don't believe God where he say don't add or subtract to the Bible So how can you believe in God if you don't believe He logic is against God words

@youhi2030

6 жыл бұрын

acolytes777 James White help the atheist in the Muslim to go against Christian religion James White is against God but he teach about God even though he doesn't believe God words are God words

This is a very different James White than in the formal interviews. Very interesting.

With all of this infighting between Christians over petty things, it makes me think that we’ll have no choice, but to work out our own salvation, because the so called leaders and pastors have their heads stuck so far up each other’s asses, they won’t have the ability to help anyone. Making the gate even narrower. 30,000 different Protestant denominations🤯🤦🏻‍♂️🙏🏻

@MsMichele50

5 жыл бұрын

I do not belong to any religion but do follow Christ. I was thinking today about all those who do and was thinking the same as you. Who can they go to where they will get answers when their pastors all have no clue themselves. As for myself in this crazy world of today, I pray to God in Jesus name to give me understanding and truth. I believe he has. Sadly the religious Christian I believe is doomed as long as they listen to false preachers and follow the doctrines of men. Very sad and horrifying what Christianity has become.

@ironhead3494

5 жыл бұрын

Howdy All we can do is study the word ourselves, asking God’s Holy Spirit, the spirit of truth, to show us the way, brother. May God bless you and keep you through our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ.

@MsMichele50

5 жыл бұрын

@@ironhead3494 Amen 😁

3:44 made me laugh so hard 😂

KJV

@eelyeoj5799

5 жыл бұрын

What people don't know nor understand is that only the KJV Bible is the Word of God. If you cannot accept this then you are lost. What people don't know is when you are reading the Word and saying it means this or it means that your are breaking God's LAW. You are breaking His LAW or instruction on how to read and hear His Word. People Don't know the MYSTERY OF THE KINGDOM in Matt. 13 nor do they understand. In the KJV Bible only you must convert the Word into numbers using SIMPLE ENGLISH GEMATRIA A=1-----Z=26 and then it becomes a MATH problem. You search for the value in Pi 3.14 for the revelation. This can only be done in the KJV BIBLE which proves it is the only WORD of GOD. When we convert the WORD into numbers it is called golden ratio 1.618. We are made in the image of GOD and the WORD is in the image of GOD which is golden ratio 1.618. Below is the Mystery of the KINGDOM 1.618 which means you must convert the Word into numbers using SIMPLE ENGLISH GEMATRIA A=1----Z=26 and then do MATH. Notice the total value is 8161. We read this right to left 1618 which is golden ratio. This is the MYSTERY OF THE KINGDOM and only the KJV BIBLE is the WORD OF GOD. Matt.13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. [+] 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. [+] 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [+] 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. = 8+5 + 1+14+19+23+5+18+5+4 + 1+14+4 + 19+1+9+4 + 21+14+20+15 + 20+8+5+13 + 2+5+3+1+21+19+5 + 9+20 + 9+19 + 7+9+22+5+14 + 21+14+20+15 + 25+15+21 + 20+15 + 11+14+15+23 + 20+8+5 + 13+25+19+20+5+18+9+5+19 + 15+6 + 20+8+5 + 11+9+14+7+4+15+13 + 15+6 + 8+5+1+22+5+14 + 2+21+20 + 20+15 + 20+8+5+13 + 9+20 + 9+19 + 14+15+20 + 7+9+22+5+14 + 6+15+18 + 23+8+15+19+15+5+22+5+18 + 8+1+20+8 + 20+15 + 8+9+13 + 19+8+1+12+12 + 2+5 + 7+9+22+5+14 + 1+14+4 + 8+5 + 19+8+1+12+12 + 8+1+22+5 + 13+15+18+5 + 1+2+21+14+4+1+14+3+5 + 2+21+20 + 23+8+15+19+15+5+22+5+18 + 8+1+20+8 + 14+15+20 + 6+18+15+13 + 8+9+13 + 19+8+1+12+12 + 2+5 + 20+1+11+5+14 + 1+23+1+25 + 5+22+5+14 + 20+8+1+20 + 8+5 + 8+1+20+8 + 20+8+5+18+5+6+15+18+5 + 19+16+5+1+11 + 9 + 20+15 + 20+8+5+13 + 9+14 + 16+1+18+1+2+12+5+19 + 2+5+3+1+21+19+5 + 20+8+5+25 + 19+5+5+9+14+7 + 19+5+5 + 14+15+20 + 1+14+4 + 8+5+1+18+9+14+7 + 20+8+5+25 + 8+5+1+18 + 14+15+20 + 14+5+9+20+8+5+18 + 4+15 + 20+8+5+25 + 21+14+4+5+18+19+20+1+14+4 + 1+14+4 + 9+14 + 20+8+5+13 + 9+19 + 6+21+12+6+9+12+12+5+4 + 20+8+5 + 16+18+15+16+8+5+3+25 + 15+6 + 5+19+1+9+1+19 + 23+8+9+3+8 + 19+1+9+20+8 + 2+25 + 8+5+1+18+9+14+7 + 25+5 + 19+8+1+12+12 + 8+5+1+18 + 1+14+4 + 19+8+1+12+12 + 14+15+20 + 21+14+4+5+18+19+20+1+14+4 + 1+14+4 + 19+5+5+9+14+7 + 25+5 + 19+8+1+12+12 + 19+5+5 + 1+14+4 + 19+8+1+12+12 + 14+15+20 + 16+5+18+3+5+9+22+5 + 6+15+18 + 20+8+9+19 + 16+5+15+16+12+5 + 19 + 8+5+1+18+20 + 9+19 + 23+1+24+5+4 + 7+18+15+19+19 + 1+14+4 + 20+8+5+9+18 + 5+1+18+19 + 1+18+5 + 4+21+12+12 + 15+6 + 8+5+1+18+9+14+7 + 1+14+4 + 20+8+5+9+18 + 5+25+5+19 + 20+8+5+25 + 8+1+22+5 + 3+12+15+19+5+4 + 12+5+19+20 + 1+20 + 1+14+25 + 20+9+13+5 + 20+8+5+25 + 19+8+15+21+12+4 + 19+5+5 + 23+9+20+8 + 20+8+5+9+18 + 5+25+5+19 + 1+14+4 + 8+5+1+18 + 23+9+20+8 + 20+8+5+9+18 + 5+1+18+19 + 1+14+4 + 19+8+15+21+12+4 + 21+14+4+5+18+19+20+1+14+4 + 23+9+20+8 + 20+8+5+9+18 + 8+5+1+18+20 + 1+14+4 + 19+8+15+21+12+4 + 2+5 + 3+15+14+22+5+18+20+5+4 + 1+14+4 + 9 + 19+8+15+21+12+4 + 8+5+1+12 + 20+8+5+13 + 2+21+20 + 2+12+5+19+19+5+4 + 1+18+5 + 25+15+21+18 + 5+25+5+19 + 6+15+18 + 20+8+5+25 + 19+5+5 + 1+14+4 + 25+15+21+18 + 5+1+18+19 + 6+15+18 + 20+8+5+25 + 8+5+1+18 = 8161 Notice the value is 8161. Read it right to left for 1618 which is golden ratio.

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

@@eelyeoj5799 You are a fool. Which version of the KJB? THEY ALL differ enough to destroy your formulae. The changes in spelling between the old English of 1611 and the 1769 Blaney revision which is what you have in your hand makes your imaginary math impossible.

@operationyouhavebeenwarned1545

5 жыл бұрын

@@paulrobinson9318 calling your brother a fool hmmm

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+@@operationyouhavebeenwarned1545 YOU should show me the context - there are many context where its 100% appropriate. BY the way the FOOL used today is NOT the fool used in 1611 not is not the fool used in AD 30 - you MIGHT want to catch up a bit on the change of language over the millennia . . . TRY Matt 23:17 on for size . . . 1 Cor 4:10, 2 Tim 2:23, Titus 3:9 - Amazing how many people were called fools in the Bible. SO what DID Jesus mean? YOU will note that Paul called the Galatians fools - with less reason than some I have branded as such.

@operationyouhavebeenwarned1545

5 жыл бұрын

@@paulrobinson9318 ok if you want to call people fools go right ahead, you non KJV Bible people are mean

hey Bryan denlinger, if you don't like James White or dont want to mess around with his books, then send me James' books, I would love to have them😎

As an atheist watching this. One man comes with documentation to back his claims. The other man makes many accusations with zero supporting documents. Not the least of which is, these cultist claim catholic and jezuit and can't support their claims they just throw out those two names. Odd the man claiming he is well reasoned and can support his argument... Doesn't. Basically the other man BAD bc cult, conspiracy, what other scary word can I throw out to discredit. Saul Alinsky tactics. Glad I watched this before my final in speech and debate. It's easy to see the flaw in a debater when the topic is pointless.

I wish we had a local pastor with the knowledge you have.

King James onlyism>>>>scholarship onlyism

@goyonman9655

Жыл бұрын

Scolarship is not a translation

I'm glad to hear James explain how there is a cultic version of KJV onlyism and a non-cultic one. However, I've watched, listened, and read a lot of Ruckman, Gip, and Riplinger material (not all, but a lot), and I have never come across where they say or imply that if you don't agree with them on the KJV, or if you take Dr. White's position, that you are going to hell. I'm highly interested in seeing where this is the case. Even if this belief cannot be directly found in their material, it would also be interesting to me to see it being taught by any of their followers. I appreciate the video, and I'll probably make a few more comments as I finish. 🤣 God bless!

@svrsl7819

9 ай бұрын

watch some of denlinger's material, he goes off on folks who aren't KJVO in almost every single video and quotes arguments to which he responds mockingly and often condemns people who have critique of the KJV to hell or says they're satanic or devils.

@BibleVersionConspiracy

9 ай бұрын

@@svrsl7819 I used to watch a lot of his videos. I haven't and doubt. *Sigh.* 😞

@svrsl7819

9 ай бұрын

@@BibleVersionConspiracy maybe I'm misremembering his emotional turmoil over the KJV issue and he actually didn't specifically say that. I'm gonna have to watch a couple of his videos and listen closely.

Are we going back to divisions like Pharisees and Saducces?

I never understood the KJV argument. If the KJV is perfect. Why aren't the Bible's preceding it perfect as well. Why did the find the need to make the KJV, if the Geneva was perfect? KJV is not modern English. Stop pretending like it is. There many modern songs using the expression suffer the children, because the average person doesn't know that suffer meant let in 1611. They should at least revise it using modern English. What argument can KJVO bring up that says that we should be using expressions like fetch a compass or suffer the children.

@Beastinvader

7 жыл бұрын

You touch on a dangerous truth: they believe the King James better and more accurate than the sources it is based on. Talk about a dangerous view.

@Joshua-um4er

7 жыл бұрын

Garegin Asatryan suffer means allow .. allow the childern ..he says suffer the children to come unto me such are the kingdom of God ..paraphrasing here

@herodotus6235

7 жыл бұрын

You mean a stupid view.

@Obediah002

5 жыл бұрын

Problem is they never intended to "modernize" the language but subvert it by using totally different textual source, which All modern versions are sourced from. When the KJV was translated they reverenced the very words and were incredibly careful to choose right word(s) the following translations, translators were not careful at all in fact deliberately undermined/changed scripture. Understand King James did not like the Geneva Bible as it had footnotes in it and wanted translation without them. I love the language of the KJV it is reverent and the few archaic words we can look them up- try doing that with the NIV or any of the other ones, it will leave you in total confusion!

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

+Obediah002 " When the KJV was translated they reverenced the very words and were incredibly careful to choose right word(s) the following translations, translators were not careful at all in fact deliberately undermined/changed scripture." At least THREE deliberate lies in that one sentence. The KJ translators deliberately MISTRANSLATED many words to continue Christian acceptance of church Hierarchy, Infant baptism, etc. They were very sloppy in many places with utterly uncalled for speculation being used rather than translation. NO modern ACCURATE Bible does so. Where are these 100's of examples you promised me many times but folded on when I challenged you? IF you cannot provide any evidence or support your statements with anything but opinion, you OUGHT not be commenting from ignorance.

Thanks for sharing this video, bryan denlinger spoke truth and it was very entertaining watching james white try to laugh his way out of the Facts.

@burkeansmithite6566

7 жыл бұрын

Seriously, you show the nature of kJVonlyism ignorant of FACTS.

@hudsontd7778

7 жыл бұрын

Simple Question, Is it impossible for an omnipotent, Omniscience, Omnipresence God of the Bible to Preserve His word In the King James BIble?

@hudsontd7778

7 жыл бұрын

Is that your answer? a ad hominem attack? Lets try again Bradley, Simple Question, Is it impossible for an Omnipotent, Omniscience, Omnipresence God of the Bible to Preserve His word In the King James BIble?

@burkeansmithite6566

7 жыл бұрын

HudsonTD777 I never once said he did not just you rather wierdly assume it has to be in English and not in any of the other 200 plus countries

@hudsontd7778

7 жыл бұрын

Bradley Endsor please show me bibles from different language that read the same as the King James Bible, remember things that are different are not the same. why do you think their are so many DIFFERENT Christian denominations​, It NOT because people are interpreting the scripture differently, it is because they are reading DIFFERENT fake bibles.

James Snapp Jr. taking on 2 KJVO’s at once Saturday night live, April 20th, debating I John 5:7. Donny at Standing for Truth hosting. Should be a good one!

When I read the Holy Bible, Our Lord wants unity in His Church. Christians attacking each other is not a good thing. Why don’t we help build each other up in the faith as maturing Christians? Also, we need missionaries out in the field evangelizing. The missionaries in India and South America have lost their lives in recent years, trying to share the Gospel with those who have not heard it. I think of the Korean ladies that went to Afghanistan or Pakistan and tried to share their faith. They were persecuted and lucky to get out of there alive. This is work that needs to be done, evangelism. Tearing down fellow Christians is painful to hear.

Wow! the accusation that White and Geisler are Jesuits is ridiculous! The guy in the video played by White is a joke .. just judging without understanding! So many assumptions! I laughed along with White!

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

KJV-onlyists call anyone who disagrees with them "Jesuits". You're right that it's ridiculous.

So glad God delivered me from the KJV only cult!

@Bleeks

2 жыл бұрын

I bet you didn't even know the true meaning of half the words. 😂😂

@Gabriel_the_Shemite

2 жыл бұрын

You misspelled Satan.

no man can control over one or more men in order to obey its convictions....God gives us a power of choice ...And God is love.

That spacebar Banter was so funny lol.

The archaic wordage of the KJV causes misunderstanding and flat out no understanding in many places. Prime example: 2Corinthians 6:12> "Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels." Clear as mud. What is the actual MESSAGE the Greek conveys?? The message is what counts, not the shape of the letters or the language or vintage of a language. We are not withholding our affection from you, but you are withholding yours from us. NIV You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted in your own affections. ESV We are not withholding our affection from you, but you are withholding yours from us. Mounce Reverse-Interlinear New Testament (Greek/English)

@derdeolifant

7 жыл бұрын

As Steven Anderson says, Hop on Pop, by Dr Seuss is very easy to read, very easy to understand. If you want to read something easy instead of the Bible, go ahead.

@baltichammer6162

7 жыл бұрын

Mr. Anderson's ignorance is exceeded only by his theatrics. A hate filled loon would not be my choice of people to quote on anything.

@jacobsmith6445

7 жыл бұрын

Baltic Hammer well said lol

@jacobsmith6445

7 жыл бұрын

Derde Olifant I like that book so I'm going to back translate it to Middle English (like Canterbury Tales in its original) so it's worth reading again sense over complicating things is what we should be doing.....

@King_James_Bible

7 жыл бұрын

Baltic Hammer "2 Corinthians 6:12> "Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels." " Um, haven't you ever heard the saying, "Let me get this straight."? That's where it came from!

Sam Gipp has said in print in multiple places that you can be saved using the NIV so White’s portrayal of him preaching that without the KJV you’re going to hell is inaccurate.

@luke11.28apologetics

3 жыл бұрын

Neither has Peter Ruckman, don't understand why he said that.

@MisertheWizer

2 жыл бұрын

Mr house you seem to be more interested in the Fate of New Vegas than the Kingdom of God, oh wait i forgot you're fighting Ceasar!

I love your sarcasm, thanks for the awesome commentary. PS, don't tell your Jesuit friends that I've never said my "hail mary's"....doh!

I prefer the KJV because it's the version I grew up with. I don't have an issue with some of the other versions, but KJV clicks better in my head because it's what I was taught my whole life.

@paulrobinson9318

5 жыл бұрын

I agree - I utterly despise the KJB as a corrupt, Catholic, sodomite-controlled Bible - BUT I was raised in a strong KJ environment - and when I have a concept in my head I sometimes look it up in the KJ to get the reference. I feel like a hypocrite - BUT that's what I had for almost 20 years before I walked away from Christianity - in some large part BECAUSE of the KJB. I'm 74 - and traditions die hard.

@Proverbspsalms

Жыл бұрын

@@paulrobinson9318 😒😒😒😒

One of the most absurd things about this is that King James himself was known as the 'Freemason king'. Yet the bible he sponsored is somehow beyond scrutiny?? Madness.

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

The KJV translators were pressured to translate the word "ekklesia" as "church and "episcopas" as "bishop" by King James to make it appear that the Bible supported his state church. Political pressure effected the KJV translators.

@jeanhodgson8623

6 жыл бұрын

James was born again, so he couldn't have been a freemason. Anyway, what he did do was to command that a final English Bible be prepared. And, he took no part in the translation. So, even if he was a man from Mars, it does not have any bearing on the final product.

@paulrobinson9318

6 жыл бұрын

+Tommy Black SRY, but you made two very foolish statements, BOTH based on the teachings of the cult you follow - BOTH examples of circular logic, and BOTH the result of your deception: "James was born again, so he couldn't have been a freemason. Anyway, what he did do was to command that a final English Bible be prepared. And, he took no part in the translation. So, even if he was a man from Mars, it does not have any bearing on the final product." There is NO evidence James was Born Again, and it makes a GREAT difference when a king tells you what you may and may NOT say in a translation he is sponsoring. "The KJV - A Freemason Bible The history of King James' role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs. Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines. James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organisation. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James." Many people who assume they are born again people are freemasons - foolishly, but its a fact. In the case of James - his Freemasonry probably was more of a political advantage than his Christianity - which he HAD to wear as a part of his position as pope (Head) of the Catholic church of England (Anglican). He also wrote a book on spiritism, available on Amazon en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemonologie You need to have some evidence before making such irrational and historically inaccurate statements

@Obediah002

5 жыл бұрын

King James was a Bible scholar and did not like the footnote i nGeneva Bible, he only authorized it officially the call was made by over 1000 pastors to produce the Authorized Version to get further away from the RCC.

Peter Ruckman has never said if you don't believe the King James Bible and read it that you go to hell, in fact he said the OPPOSITE. Ruckman has responded to this statement saying "I've never believed that a day in my life". What an irresponsible statement..... I don't see why this man thinks that believing the book is perfectly preserved is something he has to dedicate his ministry to destroying? It really boggles my mind. You either have God's words or you don't have them, isn't that what this whole argument is about? I'm going to believe it by faith... because without faith, it's impossible to please HIM.

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

Anyone who has ever inter-acted with cultic KJV-onlyists knows that they will judge you as a hell-bound heretic if you differ with them.

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

alan21usa : 1. He doesn’t dedicate his entire ministry to Bible versions or textual criticism. 2. He dedicates none of it to tearing down the KJV. 3. Your accusation was false. 4. You broke the 9th commandment (Ex 20:16) by bearing false witness. You lied. 5. The Word of God says all liars go to hell (Rev 22:15). 6. How can you claim to believe the Bible you won’t obey? 7. You need to examine yourself as to whether you’re really saved (2 Cor 13:5).

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

alan21usa : 1. I didn’t judge you. I pointed out how your BEHAVIOR is contrary to God’s Word. 2. I forgot to mention your lie about White being “Jesuit”. You broke the 9th commandment. 3. Just now you broke the Lord Jesus’ command not to spew empty insults like “stupid” (Matthew 5:22). You are liable to the hell of fire.

@yeoberry

6 жыл бұрын

+alan21usa: Do you know how idiotic it is to accuse White of being a "Jesuit"? He's done 38 debates against Catholicism. He's only done 3 against KJV-onlyists.

@inTruthbyGrace

6 жыл бұрын

Kinger James "I don't see why this man thinks that believing the book is perfectly preserved is something he has to dedicate his ministry to destroying?" because the belief that KJV is PERFECT is a a false belief and in your willingness to believe a lie, in the _unbelief_ that God could have actually *_defined preservation_* in a MUCH BIGGER way than you currently understand, it is nothing but raw vanity before God. See, because you imagine that *GOD* must adhere to _your definition_ of "preserve", you actually deny the glory due to God for how *God actually did preserve His word* . God's definition of preserve is way bigger than you have comprehended but in your fear that God can not do something you can not understand, you have actually denied the Holy Spirit a chance to show you because you have decided on the matter without hearing out the testimony from history, which is to the glory of God.

One argument I've heard from a KJV onlyist is there must be a perfect Bible somewhere, and of the available candidates the KJV is the most likely to be that perfect Bible.

When did Catholics ever endorse the NIV? It was criticized by a Catholic Priest when I had a conversation with him about the Deuterocanon/Apocryphal texts.

@CharlesSeraphDrums

4 жыл бұрын

Sean Chaney there were some Catholic websites who sold it as an ecumenically-minded version. Not sure why Catholics would ever use that as you have the beloved Jerusalem Bible. Even us Orthodox use the Jerusalem Bible, although since we got our Orthodox Study Bible, we sort of cling to that. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us before Christ Our God!

wow, ruckman, and kjv only doesnt say that if you dont believe in the kj only your going to hell, wow i cant believe this devil just said that.

There are 300 versions of the bible and James has said himself it is done for money...but KJVO is a joke to be made fun of???...which side do you think Jesus would agree with???

Me a hispanic haves the Reyna Valera 1960!!! And it's not the word of God?!!! is that what you're telling me? So king James only? !!! Really? We need a new confession of faith! oh wait we have one, Sola Scriptura. Scripture alone.. no man can put walls around the Scriptures.

1:40 Who is Will Kinney?

I used to defend those other translations until I saw videos that pointed out the outright lies and deceit in every one of them. Only the KJV says to rightfully divide the word of truth. Pretty important piece of instruction there missing from your favorite modern bible. I could go on, but I would rather that you people with your new versions explain to me why you need it, especially since it is causing so much arguing and name calling. Give me a reason.

KJV onlyism is something you only understand when you seek to grow on faith and knowledge of truth, if your basis aren't right you end up being effended very easily by scholars such as James White, we are very empathetical towards all christians of every backgroung, we are open to define and solve this issue the best way possible. We can seem hateful sometimes because we obviously go against this famous preachers and scholars that talk sh*t and have a platform to talk their sh*t, they ending up confusing even more what have to be simple. There is only one bible you can rely on and that's the KJV, and the history is the best evidence because after KJV bibles started to be recognized as standard the greates revolution in the history of church happened, giving you the basis for pure doctrine we can discuss today with certainty, different than what the Catolic Church did. What James "joke" White forgot to mention, is that Erasmus besides being catholic he didn't accepted the vulgate of the time that was terrible to say the least. In the history of catholic churches you will find those that where against the pope, Luther where catholic. The difference of those guys and catholics is that they follow God not a pagan church.

He hit the nail on the head PRINCESS !

John 13:34 King James Version 34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. All these men do is bash and put down and call each other names, they both go against what GOD has commanded and GOD also says,Matthew 5:44 King James Version 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. I have never seen either one of these men do either one of these and why well maybe they have prayed for each other off camera that I do not know but mocking and making fun of the other is not showing good fruit but GOD knows their hearts and intentions, we need more love toward one another other that stuff like this. Matthew 22:36-40 King James Version 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.