I'm in the process of building this for my table. I posted a few questions in another thread, but you may not have seen them. At this point I think I have everything mostly sorted out, but I still have a couple questions. First, would you be willing to share your Arduino code? Also, are you using end stop switches to help the Arduino initialize the table position at power-on?

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin, I think you’re the first one to try to build it. Congrats, it’s really not that hard. I suggest just starting out by getting it functional on the rails. Once it’s on rails it’s already playable. The reason there are so many cables in mine is that I wired up 5 buttons to move the table to 5 positions. This was for testing purposes. I suggest you do the same thing. It makes the project easier. Once you have the stepper motor tamed and completely controlled via the buttons and simple arduino sketches you can move on to the remote control. I used two switches, on at each end. The first switch I used as a home button the opposite end is a hard reset. The logic is this, 1: power on 2: turn motor until it hits the home switch, this will be position zéro. 3: wait for input to send table to position 0,1,2,3,4. If ever the table gets lost and goes past the number 4 position it will tear things apart! So, that’s why I simply put a switch at the end of the ball shaft that is wired directly into the reset button of the arduino ( no programming required). If the reset is tripped it will just réhome itself. CAN you program? Just use the build it sketch’s for the stepper motor. The acceleration stretch is also in the library. Just practice with those. I bought the key fobs for cheap on Amazon and the library sketches worked perfectly. I could send you my code if you like but I would suggest trying these steps first with your own code. I’m not a good programmer and I didn’t add comments to help someone try to follow the code. I think you would spend more time trying to follow my code than if you just rewrote it.

@kevinwilliams510

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 I built a working rail prototype this week, and I'm going to pick up the angle for the full rail this afternoon. I'm moving my table lengthwise, so I need longer rails. I'm going to use 1" x 1/8" aluminum angle. The bottom rail will be 8 feet long, and the table will move about 24 inches. That will leave me about 3 inches of unused rail at each end.

@kevinwilliams510

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 I hadn't thought about connecting one of the limit switches to the reset button, but I like that idea. I was originally thinking about having the startup procedure use both ends stops to measure the travel distance. I found the acceleration/deceleration library for Arduino, so I'll play around with that. I've already purchased the remote and receivers, and I don't think it will be difficult to use then right out of the gate. I only expect to need 3 positions, so I might try to do something fun with the 4th button. I bought a 36V Meanwell power supply and two good DC-DC buck converters. One will supply 12V to the Arduino and a fan, and the other will supply 5V to the remote receiver. 36V will go to a DM542T stepper driver and a Nema23 stepper motor. I may look into using a servo motor in the future. I ordered a 42-pound umbrella base to anchor the ball screw coupler. I'll design and 3D print a connector when it arrives. I'd like to get the electronics connected to a board and wired soon so I can start playing with the code.

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinwilliams510 did you buy the ball screw yet? I made the mistake of buying just the right length? I ended up having to buy a second one because it was too tight. Also, do a KZread search for “ home position” of a stepper. I was able to snag some good code from someone. Let me know if you want some close up pictures.

@kevinwilliams510

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 Thanks again. The minimum amount of movement I need, according to the pool table room size charts, is 500mm. Like you, I planned to aim for about 600mm. I bought a 700mm ball screw, figuring that would give me some extra room that I can adjust by placement of the end stop switches. I'll look for the homing video you mentioned.

Nice job with the project and the video! I love the “Got English?” Shirt! :)

All I can say is this is pure genius, well done Scott, love it :)

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks…

@MrJasonace99

3 ай бұрын

​@scrosby1000 what about some say, garage door type safety sensors to trigger what side your standing on, to engage the table movement. Nice work! Creative mind, intelligence, means , and motive. Equals no boundaries

Scott, I don’t know how much to thank you and show my appreciation for this video. It might be one of my all time favorite KZread videos and really a helpful video/resource since I’m currently moving into a small space and really want a table to fit. I’m definitely gonna try this! Thanks bro!! 💓

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

Well, glad you enjoyed it and good luck making your own.

This is something I’d expect to see from Mark Rober. Great job and it would be awesome to see a collaboration between the two of you to see what kind of improvements could be made.

Wow…simple yet genius. Awesome job!!!

An incredibly elegant solution to a difficult problem, presented well. Subscribed. Awesome work. EDIT: Also, strong Matthias Wandel vibes watching this whole video. If he played pool, I feel like this is how he'd tackle the large table / small room problem.

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Matthias Wandel rocks!!!!

Now that is thinking outside the box for sure. Excellent job!

This dude is a legend.

@strontiumstargazer5096

2 жыл бұрын

Legend or a knob

Phenomenal! Never would have thought moving a table while keeping the game intact would be possible! I saw the 9 rattle a bit on the move, but that is the smallest price to pay for an ACTUAL WORKING TABLE! You might have stumbled onto a really nice product if you can scale it and make the installation simple.

Awesome !!! Ingenious !!! Scott, what an incredibly creative problem solver you are. 😎 Cool Stuff! Outstanding. Fantastic. Fabulous job Scott! 👍😁👍

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

Well thanks, the best part is that there is another one being made as we speak, by Kevin Williams.

This is incredible, nice work man, thanks for sharing

You are a life saver mate 👍🏽 keep up the good work 👍🏽

Love your enthusiasm 😂 put the table in a bigger room or go to the bar! 👍

this is super innovative, bookmarking for when I get a table

🤣 So glad to have seen that Seinfeld clip in a pool video! 🙂

For only 48 comments you got some heavy hitters in here. Amazing project! 👏 excellent!

LOVE IT!!!! I'm happy I have the space for my 9'er though. Took me a couple years and a few thousand pounds of dirt and sweat but it was worth it! (Darn lally columns!)

I’m following Dr Dave and Sharivari- my pool dreams are complete 😀 Nice job Scott

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

You need to update your list.

@woza2023

3 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 Yes you are correct. Rollie as well!

This is amazing. Im from tremblant too btw 🤣

Great job Scott that’s a cool solution 🍻

This is awesome! Well done

Well done! I love the Dr Dave and Sharivari shout outs too :) Does the panic button subtly shake the table to induce pocket rattle? Ha!

Great idea, well executed...this is some really great work man, fair play!..just subscribed.

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, appreciate it.

Its just awesome man. I thought exactly of this conception, but i didnt think that its just easy as that to make.

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

It takes a bit of trial and error but it’s not too bad at all.

This should have way more views! Very clever!

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Wow débile ....Bravo Scott! Extrèmement ingénieux!

great engineering!

That’s an amazing idea, this will be my upcoming project

Very impressive! 👏👏👏

Your next feature: Build a cue ball tracker. A xbox kinect style gizmo that recognizes the position of the cue ball and sends a command to move the table in opposite direction. Would let you program slower movement too to prevent balls from moving. Awesome concept and video Scott.

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Luc, agreed the Kinect would be the tool to use. That would be cool.

This is nuts, good effort man

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

Lol, many people said that.

This is epic! Nicely done.

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Nice work!

Genius

What an epic idea. Respect

very useful. I was just looking for the option of sliding the table against the wall and back, but stay true/level

Great work!

Next project should be a camera in the light fixture above feeding an image recognition library on the Arduino (easier than it sounds). From that, have the camera identify the balls (easy - circles of color against the felt), identify when they've all stopped moving, identify the cue ball (it's the only white one), and then automatically move the table such that the cue ball itself is as close to the center of the room as possible. Include a manual override for the rare cases where that's not what the player actually wants.

@kruks

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree and came to the comments to say the same thing. The camera could integrate with a projector to put practice routines on the table. It does come with the caveat of wasted movement though, since sometimes you're shooting the shot in a way that doesn't need the table to move at all.

@johnstorton

10 ай бұрын

How 'bout putting the camera on tracks, and the camera would move? I would recommend a high frame-rate camera to replay shots to settle disputes about possible fouls, such as "Which ball was struck first?"

Good job!

Nice shirts (sharivari) Brilliant video.

@scrosby1000

2 ай бұрын

Thanks. Appreciate it.

You make the nerd community proud!

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daughter

@woza2023

3 жыл бұрын

On behalf of that community, I concur😀

@fixitrod4969

3 жыл бұрын

She's not wrong!!!!!!

Great Video! - moving the walls is almost easier ;-)

V2 addon has to be a lovely Ai damsel to serve drinks. Awesome ingenuity Scott - well done sir. Elon will be calling shortly.

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

I have 4 buttons on my FOB. ABC and D. D is for the Damsel. She serves me drinks and cheers me on while will giving the stink eye to my opponent’s. Bless her heart.

Awesome engineering!

@scrosby1000

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

❤

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Sharivari, I’ve watched all your videos. You and the Dr. along with many hours of practice have taken me from a “c” player to an “A” player in 2 years. Thank you for all the long hours of video editing you have put in to make us all better players.

This is amazing Scott, I've been scratching my head recently trying to think of a real solution to bring a pool table into my home. I already have everything but the angle iron so I'll definitely be trying something like this in the near future.

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of people building this now. You could follow along if you want to make one.

@kevinwilliams510

Жыл бұрын

I just completed mine. If you're still pursuing this, I'd be happy to help.

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

You can bounce some ideas off of me as well.

@kevinwilliams510

Жыл бұрын

Here are some pictures of my build. imgur.com/gallery/xcwB9ku

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinwilliams510 thanks Kevin, VERY clean/professional looking. I’ve got to get myself a 3D printer at some point.

Brilliant brother

Thanks to your help, I finished this kit about 9 months ago. It runs well and I have added some new designs to make it easier to use. It has made very much fun to my life with my wife. I have aspirations to commercialize this kit to fit most pool tables. I would like to contact you for your permission to it.And wanna communicate with you and work together to improve it so that it can be disassembled for transportation and used right out of the box, would you be interested? Looking forward to your reply.Martin

@scrosby1000

Ай бұрын

Sure, let’s talk about it. My email is scott@crosbycorp.ca

What a clever idea Scott, your solution is brilliant, even though not all together simple. I thought of the balls rolling around as you'd move the table before you got to that point, but again you solved it too. But what impressed me, as much as the project itself, was your step by step listing of the challenges and explanation of the solutions; that was spot on. I could follow the logic and hear every word, because the timing of your delivery was perfect. As an instructor myself, I'd give you an A+! But the big question... has your game gotten any better?

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ed, my pool has improved considerably and Juliens editing has was spot on.

@oziksokol

Жыл бұрын

my feelings are mutual

amazing, more pls!

i had this problem, and have designed a wheel rotating system that instead of moving the table left to right side to side, You simply stand in one spot and rotate the table to the angle you are playing your shot from. I balance the table on top of a cable cog I took from my construction yard, placed wheels on four points at the bottom and put the table in a small room which only needed to be 10x10 foot long and wide. It can easily be moved by the player as long as he stays in the one spot.

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

That’s fricken crazy!!!!! You have to send me some pics of that! I would love to see it.

@oziksokol

Жыл бұрын

Could you please upload a video or a way for us to see your solution? Also, what is a cable cog?

Best original solution video ever. You quite literally thought outside the box there Scott and busted down the walls for many mancavers problem of wanting to accomodate a pool table but limited by a small room. How did you overcome the problem of running the mains cable from under the table to im assuming a wall socket? Did you run the power cable under the inverted rail? Im thinking about embedding the rail and power cable in a modified ramped floor cable protector to lessen the chance of someone tripping over them. But it involve leaving the rail exposed in an open channel in the middle of the cable protector. I wonder if there was also a way to hide the toopof the rail with lengthwise rubber flaps on each side of the open channel which only opens up to let the wheeled angle slide through.

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for kind words. Yes, I just ran the cable inside the inverted rail. It’s still partially exposed but I’ve never tripped over it.

This is fantastic! i would love if you put a parts list in the description.

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of people building this now. You could follow along if you want to make one.

@kenbarr4386

Ай бұрын

How do I "follow along", ask questions? Is there a discussion held somewhere?

I love it, pure genius.

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Please subscribe

@jameshepburn81

Жыл бұрын

@Scott Crosby I already did.

I have an 8 footer in a small room. This would be perfect for me. Going to really look into this.

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Make a video. I'd love to see your build.

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of people building this now. You could follow along if you want to make one.

You’re awesome Scott! I’m gonna have to re-join the group…

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Brad, glad you liked it.

That’s soo cool

Hi Scott this is a brilliant idea & looking at doin this can u tell me wat wheels u used on the rails I have a English 6x3 pool table & want it to slide easily many thanks

Years ago your project would have been on the cover of Popular Mechanics, LOL. I think for my purpose I'll just go with pushing the table by hand. Regarding the wheels , what is the inside/outside diameter? There are many types on Amazon but the inside axis should be just so that a regular bolt acts like an axle.

This is awesome!!! And I’m all 3 😁😁😁 🎱🤓

Amazing Video, watched probably like 10 times now. I have some questions about the motor and ball screw, if anyone that has successfully dones this has a minute I would love to pick your brain.

Awesome!

Cool!

PATENT IT AND SALE IT,LOL,GREAT IDEAL!

You’re the man

So Ive watched this like 20 times this week alone. Ive been doing the math to try and fit a 7 foot bar box in a room only 10 feet wide and 20 feet long with play for 58" cues. Wondering if its possible to forgo the 1 inch angle stock and use some low resistance casters. This would prevent me from needing to stick angle iron out past the edge of the table, which i would need to do in my case to get the additional movement necessary.

Scott - You, Sir, are absolutely my new hero! SUBSCRIBED! Do you plan on marketing your invention?

@scrosby1000

Жыл бұрын

No, it was simply a project that gave me the chance to practice at home. My Pool league ratings have gotten better since I installed the table so I consider it a double win.

@BaronMcCausland

Жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 You might want to re-think your position on your invention - birthed naturally from necessity. The amount of pool table sales which fail to consummate because of space limitations would be solved and be a boon to the industry. The number one sales objection to buying a pool table is: "we simply do not have enough room." Please consider it further, won't you?

This should be commercialized as an OOB solution!

Wow!! Now that you know how to this, get a snooker table and just moove the walls around.

great idea/project/job should take the idea to the TV show Shark Tank

Wow awesome. Problem fixed ;)

This is amazing! Just wondering if you find the lighting not moving with the table a problem?

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

No, I added 4 lights to the overhead fixture. These lights are aimed past the long rails to compensate.

You should patent this and sell it kits for people looking to do the same

Only thing that I think would make it better is if you didn’t need the remote at all. If you were to wire a motion sensor on both sides of the table instead so when you walked around to whichever side of the table you needed to be on to take your shot, the motion sensor detects you on that side of the table and goes ahead and moves the table to the other side automatically. 👌🏼 awesome work this is great. 👍🏼

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

I did think about that. Another idea would be to have a camera that follows the queue ball and then moves the table accordingly. However, I didn’t want to move the table unless it was really necessary. COVID lockdown also ended and I wanted to start plying more and programming less. I play at least an hour a day now with this setup and am still happy with it. Thanks for the encouragement!!

@87fiveoh

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome brother great work! 😎

Put out the items list so we know what to look for,lol,i want to build this. Just to do it,lol

Nice Scott!!!! I live in Montréal and also play in pool league. I already bought a house and will need something like this in the new one. How can I contact you? I would like to see if is possible to get some photos from the mechanism 🙈 please 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Nice work.... if you like I can do the code to install a raspberry pi with a camera to automatically locate the white and move the table and interface with the arduino....

@fixitrod4969

3 жыл бұрын

That would be AMAZING!!!!!! A bit difficult to know what direction you want to shoot though

Can you send me link to the motor and bolt moving thing, my table moves just need it to move with the push of a button

Wonderful. How about a materials and source list?

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of people building this now. You could follow along if you want to make one.

Dope

best video ever

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man…

Hope you could post the project with Bill of Materials and Source code so that others could do it too.

Dude! I hope you make a bunch of money out of this. I want one!

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

That would be nice but unlikely. However I would like to someone to copy my design and send me a picture. That would make it worthwhile.

@kevinwilliams510

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 I would love to be that guy. I have enough width for an 8-foot table, but not enough length. I've already started a BOM to build this. Any chance I could pick your brains a bit?

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinwilliams510 sure, fire away.

@kevinwilliams510

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 Thanks for the prompt reply. It looks like you used 1x1 aluminum angle. Correct? Is it 1/16" or 1/8"? Since I need my table to move lengthwise, my challenge will be finding a pool table with the legs inset from the ends of the table enough that 8 feet of rail will give me enough room to move back and forth. Do you think it's necessary for the upper rail to run the full length between the legs, or would it be sufficient to just have upper rails under the feet? Did you have to do any metal work beyond drilling and tapping? What size bearings did you use? There are a million different sizes that all look about the same. Looks like you used an Arduino Uno (by Elegoo). Can you point me to the remote and receiver you used? Would you be willing to share your code? Thanks! Those will get me started. I plan to start by getting the Arduino and remote control code working, then add the stepper motors, then finally integrate everything.

@kevinwilliams510

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 Upon closer inspection, I see you're using steel angle iron. I think I'm going to stick with aluminum. I can get 8' lengths from Lowes, but the longest steel angle I can get is 6'. 6 feet isn't long enough to move my table end-to-end. While steel is about half the cost of aluminum, I don't really have choice, short of calling steel suppliers in town. I think the extra $50 is worth it for the convenience. Also, I'm guessing you have end stop switches on your table. It's the only way I can think of for the Arduino to figure out where the table is when you power it on. I'm starting to figure out why there are so many wires under your table!

Hey: How about sharing your parts list.. A really neat project!!!

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of people building this now. You could follow along if you want to make one.

Very cool.... When my wife and I were looking for our new house I told my wife that I hated the kitchen if there wasn't enough room for my pool table.... Do the tracks on the floor get in the way when you are trying to step into your shots?

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

No, I wear slippers and just step on them. I don't really even notice them anymore

Awesome video, dude, where did you get that shirt from?!

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

From Dr. Dave’s pool website. Glad you noticed it!!!

Very genius idea. Where did you get the wheels for the v-track?

@scrosby1000

4 ай бұрын

All machine shops sell bearings.They’re easy to find

Can you please share the Arduino sketch. Were you using AccelStepper?

That's good, too. But how about moving left to right and up and down, how you got to do about it? My room can fit only up and down, not left to right, then I might have to do it by using wheel to spinning to see how it work or not. Do you have anything about moving it for left to right and up to down to help me to fit my 7' or 8' that I'm going to buy one and placed it in my bedroom of about 10'×15'.

Hi do any1 who built this av any ideas what size ball screw I will need for a 6x3 uk pool table any help b much appreciated 👍

see you on shark tank!!

1. So the fourth qualification for the project is money: How much do you think you spent in cash and time? 2. Your table stops in only two positions, or can you choose how many spindle rotations? 3. I've had many tables in studio apartments, etc., and sometimes resorted to moving the cue ball as you demonstrated. I wouldn't call that procedure a deal-breaker, it's just that you have to move the cue ball in the direction it would have been shot even if you were snookered -- you can't move the ball over any blocking balls. (I guess jump shots would take care of themselves with the elevated cue.)

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ray, I didn’t count my hours as I was building it as it was a labor of love. I also have a habit of always buying triple of whatever part I need. That said, once all the R&D is done it could be assembled and installed in an afternoon. It just requires drilling 4 holes in the bottom section of the table. Cost of actual parts used is probably about $1000.00. Add $500 to that amount for a Servo quiet motor. Thé motor noise annoys my girlfriend upstairs so it’s a must! Thé table can stop in as many positions as you want. It’s 100% programmable. I choose 3 positions because that’s all I needed. Not sure if there’s enough demand to produce such a kit?

@raygrinders3918

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 There would be demand, but mostly from enthusiasts who are already rich enough to have a large room. The kit money would hinder poorer folks. Maybe producing a plethora of already-programmed chips & motors would bring the costs down for the grand scale! (I'm not the type to ever envision me buying a table over $300.)

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@raygrinders3918 I guess when the accessory costs more than the product it becomes a problem.

@raygrinders3918

2 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 I wouldn't say that -- if I add $1000 to my cheap, used $300 table it would be more practical than a too-big $1300 table.

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@raygrinders3918 good point!

Wow! So I really can get a tiny home?

What a genius invention, do rails need to be bolted to the ground?

@scrosby1000

11 ай бұрын

They are not bolted to the ground.

Did you do any tweaking on the middle leg? I reckon it needs enough grip to prevent it moving itself instead of the pooltable on the rails, did you bolt it in the floor?

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

No , the middle leg weights about 40lbs. It actually the base of a suspended chair. Since it’s on carpet it’s quite solid. Still, I was a bit worried about it sliding so I put Velcro under each of its legs.

wow.

How would you go about leveling the table now?

@scrosby1000

7 ай бұрын

Playing cards work perfectly between the rail and the leg

can you post the list of items needed to do this project.

@scrosby1000

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of people building this now. You could follow along if you want to make one.

Scott, I'm curious if there would be a way to implement this solution without a motor using some sort of changing gradient system on the iron rail that would create the acceleration/deceleration problem to prevent the balls moving

@scrosby1000

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Zachary, Well if the idea is to simplify the whole system then you could simply move it by hand. I’m currently using the table without the motor as I’m waiting for a new servo motor to come in. I’ve become quite proficient at moving the table by hand without moving the balls. Just takes a bit of practice. Drawback: With the motor detached there is no longer a breaking system so you need to be careful when leaning over the table.

@zacharyalexander8645

3 жыл бұрын

@@scrosby1000 Thanks! My main concern would be accidentally moving the balls. I think having a little removable stopper would prevent the table from moving, would add time to the whole thing, but could work

@sicesp

Жыл бұрын

How about an update? What servo did you try and how'd it turn out?