A Random Convo About Church

Many of us got comfortable not going to church through the pandemic and we’re slowly finding our way back. The Bible tells us we need other Christians and we’re missing something if we don’t gather together to hear God’s Word. But our relationship to church can still be complicated. Jackie and Preston’s conversation today covers topics like worship style preferences, doctrinally sound preaching and discipleship, the pressure that local pastors face because of social media, and the topic of church hurt.
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  • @AHeapOfSalt
    @AHeapOfSalt9 ай бұрын

    I found a church last year after not going for YEARS. Now I’m there so much, and am always one of the lasts to leave. This community has impacted my life in such a large way; it’s such a blessing to experience the love of Christ with people that love Him just as much as you do. If you haven’t been in a while, please do not forsake the assembly. There’s a reason we need each other. Join a church, and serve, and commune with the body of Christ. It’s vital

  • @Fe24Nom

    @Fe24Nom

    9 ай бұрын

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    I love to hear this!❤️✨

  • @kenalek

    @kenalek

    9 ай бұрын

    I have the same story to share, mine happened this year and God oh God... it's been amazing❤

  • @kap849

    @kap849

    9 ай бұрын

    Same here. I think I spent all my free time at church from Sunday service, discipleship classes, evening prayers, Bible study, at some point I began to question if one can do too much church. But I found so much joy in being in the presence of God with other believers!

  • @AHeapOfSalt

    @AHeapOfSalt

    9 ай бұрын

    @@kap849 there’s nothing like it! I was just telling my Dad, it’s legitimate fun for me to sit around with my brothers and sisters in Christ and hear what God is doing in their lives and how He’s speaking to them through scripture. Truly, to know Him is to love Him, and I don’t want to ever experience life without Him again.

  • @BrandonLadelleTV
    @BrandonLadelleTV9 ай бұрын

    “The Bible points to a person, and that person is not me” - Preston Perry 2023 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @briiSkii
    @briiSkii9 ай бұрын

    Charles Stanley is another. He was the first non charismatic preacher I listened to and I actually started to LEARN something 💕

  • @robinwade8141

    @robinwade8141

    9 ай бұрын

    Charles Stanley definitely left a mark on mankind. He was on point and the thing that I liked about him most is he NEVER brought politics into the pulpit. I think that is my biggest pet peeve about how ppl use the pulpit to get their agenda’s known. I’ve stopped listening to two pastors that I like that have sound doctrine (it’s unfortunate too) because they brought politic into their messages. Our political system is definitely set up by man even though they can’t do anything without God allowing it. But voting is personal and to me and should remain personal. Because I study the Bible daily, when I hear a pastor continue to misrepresent I stop listening to them. My husband and I are trying to find a church now because I feel it’s important to be present. But I do attend a Bible study weekly, have a prayer partner and listen to strong teachings. I think we just have to pray for repentance for ppl that don’t share the true gospel because we all are fallen and for sure need Christ. I think sometimes it’s pride but only God can correct that in ppl, but prayer goes a long way.

  • @Vhhandle

    @Vhhandle

    8 ай бұрын

    Great man of God🙌🏾

  • @ShamirYukno

    @ShamirYukno

    7 ай бұрын

    Same! RIP to him. I am grateful for his teachings and the many devotionals on the bible app by him.

  • @purposelylivingwithShauntal

    @purposelylivingwithShauntal

    7 ай бұрын

    Amen

  • @tpisbrave1135

    @tpisbrave1135

    3 ай бұрын

    Agree💯

  • @HaleemaMcCree
    @HaleemaMcCree9 ай бұрын

    They go so deep, so fast and with so much conviction, wisdom, grace, and TRUTH! I appreciate their pure ministry unto the Lord.

  • @gavinrhughes4712

    @gavinrhughes4712

    9 ай бұрын

    YES!!!

  • @lamontedwards9293
    @lamontedwards92939 ай бұрын

    I feel finding a community is easier said then done

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    It can be rough, but we have to look at things logically & from God’s standpoint. Is the Gospel being preached? Does the church emphasize on discipleship & evangelism? Is the worship genuine? Too often we look at things from an emotional standpoint, myself included.

  • @dave-giveusfree-evans1068

    @dave-giveusfree-evans1068

    Ай бұрын

    It seems like folks think we haven't tried. There are so many places of hurt... And now to be told that its mandatory! Church drama! Large churches are loaded with hurt people that hurt people.

  • @Blankuser_
    @Blankuser_9 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate this. Became a Christian 4 years ago and I’ve been hurt by some Christian’s I saw as mentors. Decided to go to church for healing and it was all worth it. My relationship is closer to God and I’ve learned what forgiveness meant. People please go to Church. If Christian’s have hurt you please know that God did not. He will restore you! Also pray for those who hurt you and also pray for yourself to not hurt others as well.

  • @georgeloveofg8192

    @georgeloveofg8192

    9 ай бұрын

    I love you guys no cap. Your layout of expressions of the church and all there in are reasons I like and dislike consistently attending. Your conversation encompasses the package of love God love community but the best balance is to locate a decent building to visit and clear balance online. Thanks for helping.

  • @jenniferlouis677
    @jenniferlouis6779 ай бұрын

    Tony Evans, Charles Stanley and Chuck Swindoll, these 3 men has fed me, cause me to grow and hold on to God for all times.

  • @sade_8637

    @sade_8637

    8 ай бұрын

    Yess❤. May I add Adrian Rogers (love worth finding) to this list!🙏🏾

  • @tanyahylton3354

    @tanyahylton3354

    7 ай бұрын

    SAMEsies!!! I grew up on them! Now Andy Stanley is added to the mix.

  • @Meliro73
    @Meliro739 ай бұрын

    Tony Evans is solid! His ministry has helped me to spiritually mature!

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    He’s a really good preacher

  • @ladylucia85

    @ladylucia85

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes! He is the only online preacher I watch. His teachings are biblically sound & he's unafraid to share all parts of the bible.

  • @aubriellemorgan

    @aubriellemorgan

    9 ай бұрын

    To each his own.

  • @deewilson9952

    @deewilson9952

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@ladylucia85I like his daughter, Priscilla shirer. She's good as well.

  • @Proverbs_8_feeds_my_soul

    @Proverbs_8_feeds_my_soul

    8 ай бұрын

    @@deewilson9952I had no idea she was his daughter!

  • @BrandonLadelleTV
    @BrandonLadelleTV9 ай бұрын

    “He didn’t die just so I could learn about me. He died so that I could know God”. Jackie Hill-Perry 2023 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Sheesh 😭

  • @SloansAbroad
    @SloansAbroad2 ай бұрын

    Asking for prayer. My husband is a believer but is against church attendance because he thinks they're all corrupt. I miss community so much.

  • @Faithinme90
    @Faithinme909 ай бұрын

    Whoever reading this, God never sends you into a situation alone, God goes before you, He stands beside you, He walks behind you. Whatever situation you have right now be confident. God is with you. Amen 🙏🙏

  • @dominiquedavidson568

    @dominiquedavidson568

    9 ай бұрын

    Needed this! i decided that on Sunday im going to go to church after ten years and Im so nervous going alone.

  • @ldhenderson4611

    @ldhenderson4611

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing, I needed this.

  • @shaquillekiragu

    @shaquillekiragu

    3 ай бұрын

    @dominiquedavidson568 Hello sister, how did it go?

  • @emonimalu

    @emonimalu

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you Jesus

  • @antoinettegeorge855
    @antoinettegeorge8553 ай бұрын

    I thank God we were able to still seek God's face in the confines of our home during the pandemic. My husband preached to family each Sunday leading back to the Churches reopening.

  • @jazujesus
    @jazujesus9 ай бұрын

    I heard this couple of years ago: for the church to become yours - you have to find a need and start serving

  • @missrhonda8891
    @missrhonda88919 ай бұрын

    This makes me think about itching ears! I also believe that the “boring” preaching teaches discipline, and reveals things about where you are in your flesh and spiritual walk in Christ. The same for listening to gospel music. It’s like are you really able to worship God or are you in your emotions. Again this is my own personal perspective via the things I myself encountered. This conversation really blessed me. I enjoy these kinds of conversations.

  • @JG-id5vi

    @JG-id5vi

    Ай бұрын

    Yea, I remember Fracnis chan talking about someone complaining to him how they "Didn't like worship today" and he was like " That's OK, we weren't worshipping you." That's always stuck with me now when I hear people complain about worship they fear of the Lord comes. It's nice to have skilled worshipers, but that's not always possible. At the end of the day, it's about our hearts.

  • @user-nf6zx2km6e
    @user-nf6zx2km6e9 ай бұрын

    First of all, I would just like to say that I love your podcast and I’ve learned so much from listening to you. There have been times I have literally been driving in my car and pulled over to write something down that you said. Y’all touched on something today that I see a lot in my own community: Consumer Christianity … how many people bounce around looking for the trendiest church, or the most entertaining pastors. I think we should all pray for wisdom and discernment, and seek pastors and leaders who point us to Jesus and speak the Word first and foremost. If they aren’t teaching scripture more than anything else this should be a red flag. We need to get away from going to church with an attitude of selfish fulfillment and look for churches that are building us as disciples of Christ. Y’all touched on this so eloquently today. I think this is an important conversation to keep having. Thank you so much for your ministry and using your gifts to teach and guide us!

  • @valeriejairosi

    @valeriejairosi

    9 ай бұрын

    I was just talking about consumerist church (I said capitalistic church) the other day - but from a different POV. How unfortunately a lot of church leadership will invest in discipling a congregant only if there's a return on investment. For example, "I will teach you to read and interpret the text so you can join the pastoral team or lead a sector of the church", but not necessarily because they want that congregant to grow and mature in their own walk with Christ. This podcast definitely humbled me though. For so long I thought it was Godly to point out all the flaws in church, but I seldom did anything about it or even prayed fervently on it.

  • @shanaparrilla978

    @shanaparrilla978

    9 ай бұрын

    I go from church to church to find the opposite of that church is not about trendy music and sermons but about truly transforming lives towards Christ

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    Yesss! Speak on it!🗣️ it’s a problem when people are more focused on the entertainment of the pastor more than the Word of God💯

  • @kingdomaviana
    @kingdomaviana9 ай бұрын

    With the Perry’s has totally changed my life and my relationship with my husband. Thank you so much for y’all’s marriage and just zeal for the Lord!❤️🔥

  • @TheSpiritSword
    @TheSpiritSword9 ай бұрын

    I struggle with going to church because I feel like people in church are sooooo fake!! I know dudes in the streets with more integrity then anyone I ever met at any church I ever been to. But when Jackie read Acts 9:3-6 It really hit me hard. I love y’all ❤️

  • @tamikalove2658

    @tamikalove2658

    9 ай бұрын

    The Body needs you and you also need the body we 😍 everyone in the church is not apart of the body just like every street guy don’t have integrity. Grace & Peace be multiplied🙏🏾

  • @carmencarter844

    @carmencarter844

    9 ай бұрын

    That’s the enemies way of keeping you out!! God said that people will cast out devils in my name but they never knew me. People can operate in a form of Godliness but deny the power of God. God wastes nothing if it’s enough to get the 100 fold He will allow it

  • @TheBenitaAngela

    @TheBenitaAngela

    9 ай бұрын

    That one scripture will get us every time. It’s okay to be frustrated with your fellow Body when we act outside of what God desires of us. But remember, it’s HARD out here being a believer in a broken world. I also gotta add, dudes in the streets are generally operating in an illegal space. Which means they are also operating in deception, off bat. While their standards or codes of conduct might be something they “honor” or abide by- it’s easy because it’s worldly/ flesh-based- and inherently wicked (saying wicked sounds so churchy, but 🤷🏾‍♀️). We, the Church, are held to a higher standard, where we, every day, every minute have to operate outside of what seems natural to us (and sometimes the world around us). It’s hard. We be sucking at it ALL the time. All of us. Every day. And in the Church, that trying is exposed to your peers at a different level. I say that to say, try not to compare the natural deception of the world to the vulnerability of The Church. You’ve got this cause God has got you. Walking with you-- and, honestly, showing you areas to pray about. Cause The Body of Christ really do be messy. Lol

  • @LadyK4233

    @LadyK4233

    9 ай бұрын

    There’s FAKE people everywhere love. I’ve experienced this in my own Family etc. Jesus isn’t fake. I remember reading in the Bible how he was very honest with people especially the Pharisees and they hated it. 😊😊😊😊

  • @lelo46

    @lelo46

    9 ай бұрын

    That’s crazy because it’s FAKE folk in the street. I’m from Chicago so, Naw, it’s more fake ppl out here than if I went in the church. If I’m being real.

  • @BunmiAdejimiE
    @BunmiAdejimiE9 ай бұрын

    I can relate to Preston on Tim Keller. I started listening to him again a few months ago and I have never understood the gospel and salvation better. Praise God for his life.

  • @ramonabridgett9058
    @ramonabridgett90589 ай бұрын

    Charles Stanley was another great teacher.

  • @moet131

    @moet131

    9 ай бұрын

    One of the best!!

  • @MzCrayKray
    @MzCrayKray9 ай бұрын

    Just watched your video about the humanity of celebrities. It's so hard to not look at yall as our friends. I feel like yall sitting on the couch chilling talking about lifes important subjects. Yall are so cool, laid back, funny, and relatable. A lot of us are missing this in our christian circle.

  • @brandyfriend221

    @brandyfriend221

    9 ай бұрын

    Right??😂 I already told them they my best friends in my head.😂❤

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    So true!💯

  • @samukelongwane7412
    @samukelongwane74129 ай бұрын

    I'm 21 years old and I'm still in university. I've been church hoping for so long since being here, and I just pray that God leads me to a local church that I can be a part of. The issue that I have is that I often feel ignored or left out in a church I'm new at. Everyone usually has their cliques and I guess my social anxiety doesn't allow me to connect with them. But through prayer and God's will, I won't give up trying.I'm all the way from South Africa by the way 🇿🇦

  • @jennysteward1675

    @jennysteward1675

    9 ай бұрын

    Know that you are not alone in that. It’s tough out here trying to get incorporated into the church, especially when there are cliques.

  • @zonella

    @zonella

    3 ай бұрын

    exactly its so easy to feel left out!!

  • @Tyasiaaaa
    @Tyasiaaaa5 ай бұрын

    When I first came to Christ I was absolutely against being apart of a church because of church hurt and pride tbh but TODAY 👏🏾 I absolutely love my local church and I can’t even imagine where I’d be in life, spiritually without them!

  • @mizndmi8703
    @mizndmi87039 ай бұрын

    I’m musically inclined, and I’m extremely sensitive to sound that i become overstimulated when things are off. The church i attend, the worship team is so amazing that I feel every moment, and I bawl my heart out every service. The pastor’s messages and deliverance are great, and I learn a lot from the services. His voice though, has a particular tone that is sharp to the ear and without soft contrast. Almost like nails on a chalkboard for me for some reason. I feel bad for feeling that way. I always see it through because it’s not about me; I came there for Jesus, not my comfort. I just feel bad for thinking those thoughts about the pastor at all though.

  • @Inmybiblewithdericka
    @Inmybiblewithdericka8 ай бұрын

    “Stained God’s carpet” 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @abbeyabernathy1606
    @abbeyabernathy16069 ай бұрын

    As a woman 31 in the Midwest it’s almost taboo to still be single. I appreciate the acknowledgment and compassion.

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    Right bc it’s so easy be in a relationship if you’re willing to compromise & not wait on God

  • @JG-id5vi

    @JG-id5vi

    Ай бұрын

    In massachusetts, it's the opposite. People married with more than 2 children are almost looked at like parasites. (From the world, not the church) When I was married in my early 20s, people thought something was wrong with me.

  • @dominiquedavidson568
    @dominiquedavidson5689 ай бұрын

    I left my the catholic church 9 years ago and haven't been to an actual church since. I came back to faith in 2018 and have been reading and studying the Bible ever since and growing my relationship with Christ. During the pandemic I turned to the "mega" churches online and I do see now that most of it is motivational speaking. I know God commands us to have fellowship and we were not meant to follow Christ in isolation. I have felt the loneliness since my family doesn't have strong faith and I have few friends who share the love of God like me. Last week I found a church close to me and I plan to try it out Sunday! Im really excited and hopeful but I also have some anxiety about going alone and making friends. Im shy and Im not the best at initiating conversation. Please pray for me that this is a good fit and that im finally able to find friends and a community. I am so happy God led me to this channel, it has really impacted my life. its so refreshing to find people who can preach the word of God but keep it real about how hard it can be as a Christian in todays age! God bless y'all!

  • @lisaburke7506

    @lisaburke7506

    9 ай бұрын

    If I could give advice on visiting churches that has helped me in the past, it sometimes helps to reach out by email in advance and to speak with the pastor or an elder. That way should you go in person, it isn't a "cold visit" but a "warm" one where someone there already knows a bit about you and why you're there. You can also ask questions in advance and know a bit more about them, and in speaking with you they may think of someone they could connect you with so that you don't feel like a complete fish out of water.

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    @@lisaburke7506that’s good advice💯

  • @myrajohnson1523

    @myrajohnson1523

    7 ай бұрын

    I pray you find your purpose in ministry there. Be strong (in the Lord) and you will find a good church home. Everybody needs 3 good homes! Your home, a church home, and a heavenly home. Blessings always ❤

  • @shaquillekiragu

    @shaquillekiragu

    3 ай бұрын

    This is great advice. Thank you sister 🙌🏿

  • @NBnNC
    @NBnNC9 ай бұрын

    Hebrews 10:25 “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

  • @aishagarcia5844
    @aishagarcia58449 ай бұрын

    Worship is for no other reason than to worship God. No matter how it sounds to us listening. Ive heard of musicians and singers who are not even believers in Christ Jesus that perform every church service because they are employed by the church. Sometimes we focus on the entertainment aspects that church has become

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    This!🗣️👏🏾💯 I see both sides of it, but genuine worship is the most important thing

  • @xxjanai
    @xxjanai9 ай бұрын

    As someone who has found you guys in the last year or so, I feel like y'all need to do a "get to know us" podcast. You drop bits and pieces from your past in every episode but would love to hear a timeline. Walk with god from the beginning, meeting each other, your "careers" and what has brought you to this point of recognition

  • @godsgirl9497
    @godsgirl94979 ай бұрын

    I think there’s also a problem with mega churches that have sound teaching and great worship teams but lack in community.

  • @Queenlikesoul
    @Queenlikesoul9 ай бұрын

    34:45 I was saying to my friend that God is really calling us to the carpet right now about being disciplined and discipled. It’s important to be aware that even leaders are sheep to a point

  • @MzCrayKray
    @MzCrayKray9 ай бұрын

    Can yall do a compilation of your funniest moments? 😂

  • @Askboutjass

    @Askboutjass

    9 ай бұрын

    lol I would love to see that

  • @BGS4L
    @BGS4L9 ай бұрын

    18:23 - 18:48 THIS PART💯💯 I went through my journey during the pandemic seeking a community but found myself believing in prosperity gospel instead of the LORD’s GOSPEL. I’m still learning and getting there. I felt discouraged after finding out how much I was deep but with the help of this podcast, praying and learning to read more of his word : I’m getting there🙏🏽 Thank you Lord for your patience and guidance ♥️♥️

  • @lisaburke7506
    @lisaburke75069 ай бұрын

    There is a video on YT made by a Catholic content creator that was on how the protestant notion of worship isn't really worship. As he explained himself, I started to understand what he meant. In many non-denominational/protestant churches, "worship" is synonymous with "music". Recently, I had the chance to visit an orthodox church, both out of curiosity and out of a desire to better understand my brothers and sisters in the faith from other church traditions. It was during that entire 3+ hour long service that I truly began to understand what that creator meant. The collective chants of scripture professing the tenets of our faith, the prayers for the global church and the orthodox priesthood for fidelity to the teachings of Christ, the collective prayer for the forgiveness of sin, the sing-song chants of praise and glory to the triune God, and more. In that moment I felt what I experienced was true worship. I have so many questions following that experience like why more non-denominational churches do not include prayers for fidelity to the word for church leadership as part of their regular service? Why don't we collectively profess the tenets of our faith, especially if we are "seeker friendly"? If someone unfamiliar with Christianity had walked into that orthodox church, they would leave knowing exactly what it is Christ taught and the Church practices because it is laid out plainly. In most modern protestant churches that I have attended, it's "worship music --> announcements --> teaching --> closing prayer -->fellowship, maybe". And Sundays are centered around the teaching, which isn't bad, but could risk becoming a glorified extended Bible study with a mini concert at the start. It would be nice to hear thoughts on how to bring more worship into the non-denominational church that extends beyond music.

  • @noble604

    @noble604

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your thought provoking comment. May I suggest we keep in the forefront of our minds what biblical “worship” actually is? Perhaps it would help us to spend time with The Lord searching and researching the scripture on the meaning of worship, where it’s mentioned in the Bible, how it’s expressed and what are we commanded to do with it. Wor(th)ship is declaring the *worth of GOD our Father through the gift and might of JESUS. If a church service Is about our collectively voicing our prayers and needs, speaking our faith to The Lord, declaring our commitment to Him, as well-meaning and obedient as that iis, is that “worship?” Is that declaring the magnificence, worth, glory, majesty, power, dominion that all belong to Him... and to Him only? It might be helpful for us to understand what “wor(th)ship” is to express it in the highest, holiest way.

  • @lisaburke7506

    @lisaburke7506

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@noble604 I encourage you to attend an Eastern orthodox church, as you misunderstand my post. I do not want to misrepresent their practices (again, I was only a visitor). However, what was performed in their service can be mistaken for nothing other than worship of our Heavenly Father and worship in the highest and holiest way. Peace to you.

  • @ChildofGod98765
    @ChildofGod987659 ай бұрын

    I trust in God and keep faith even as I struggle to take care of my children and myself. As a single mother things are so hard on me. Both of my sons are autistic I’m overwhelmed. God please hear my prayers. I’m constantly struggling to buy groceries and constantly struggling to pay rent and now that I’m home schooling my sons I’m struggling to buy their school supplies. I’m so ashamed and overwhelmed so please be kind. I choose to have faith over fear as christians that’s all we can do. No matter your struggle, we can turn to God. He knows us personally and can give us strength to overcome our challenges. Heavenly and merciful Father, I come before your glorious throne today, in humble adoration please help me overcome my struggles and my constant fear of homelessness. Walking with faith is all I can do! ❤

  • @ms.g4197

    @ms.g4197

    9 ай бұрын

    I pray Jesus brings you peace. May you feel his presence daily 🙏🏽 ❤

  • @marlanacherry3201
    @marlanacherry32019 ай бұрын

    RIP Tim Keller. He truly helped me to have a solid foundation in my relationship with God. Great talk today!

  • @HisGraceAndMercy
    @HisGraceAndMercy9 ай бұрын

    Chuck Swindoll/Alistair Begg.. Two of my favorites.. Both solid teachers🙏🏾

  • @ramonabridgett9058
    @ramonabridgett90589 ай бұрын

    Shout out to Eric Mason from Epiphany Fellowship here in Philadelphia ❤ phenomenal teacher preacher and pastor.

  • @inokerogoyawa

    @inokerogoyawa

    9 ай бұрын

    He is that dude !!

  • @alyssakalette
    @alyssakalette9 ай бұрын

    Jerry Flowers Jr. of Redefinedtv is one of my all time favorite Pastors. A voice for this generation, just like you Perry's.

  • @arielprivott844
    @arielprivott8449 ай бұрын

    I’m only 17 minutes in but this conversation has made me SOOOO thankful for my church home! I love those folks😂😂😂😂

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    Which church you go to?👀

  • @DonnaSanchezAuthor
    @DonnaSanchezAuthor4 ай бұрын

    Love your hearts! Praying for almost a year now that our “seeker friendly” church would wake up to the truth you’re speaking about! 🙏🏻

  • @angelic-godsmiles2are182
    @angelic-godsmiles2are1829 ай бұрын

    Great discussion! 1. Never Forget Jesus in Our Teachings whether pulling from Old or New Testament. 2. Never Forget the Church is God's Bride and being a part of the Body of Believers is important. 3. Sit Under/Follow someone that points you to Jesus. ❤🙌🏽

  • @palesahmahoko3269
    @palesahmahoko32699 ай бұрын

    The worship team topic is a tough one...people are leaving the church because of it.

  • @MSG9876
    @MSG98762 ай бұрын

    The "kingdom of God" is what we are called to and it's the same that we are called through. We understand God's will at different levels of reciprocity...and it all can take place in the kingdom of God.

  • @thomasgordon3965
    @thomasgordon39659 ай бұрын

    So, I hear you both saying Jesus is at the center of the story not me. I entered His story. He should be the foremost influencer in my life.

  • @belindalindsey607
    @belindalindsey6079 ай бұрын

    I can hear a bad note from the choir or praise team, but I pray through that.

  • @InSubmission
    @InSubmissionАй бұрын

    I’ve been a Christian for a while now as I came to Christ around 18 years ago, and my experience with 90% of churches is that community didn’t play a part in it. Everyone smiled and gave high fives at church but during the week you heard from no one and then it was rinse/repeat on Sunday’s. When my son was born for example, no one was there for us from the church, even though we attended a megachurch at the time. In fact, I had more non Christian friends because to me and my family, they showed more genuineness than Christians in the church. My personal opinion is that it’s mainly because of familiarity within groups or “cliques” where Christians didn’t want to open up to newer people (as opposed to staying in the comfortable group they grew up with) is because it was a lot of work, at least this was my experience with most Christians. I’m now attending a church with my wife and children where we are blessed to have some community in the church, but the sad thing is that it took going to many churches in order to find a church that we could have community with. So I’ve written a song about it called “Community”, and here’s a link to my music video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZektch_nqu-hqw.htmlsi=iUSWrmkv-aKVE4R7 I’ve also explained the meaning behind my song “Community” in a video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioGFqbWpcqnFcs4.htmlsi=Fo7zupKQYifq1t6H

  • @sharitastinson109
    @sharitastinson1099 ай бұрын

    A much needed conversation! Minute by minute, both of you are giving great examples of what is needed in the body of Christ. One key takeaway for me was the importance of discipleship! I grew up learning that salvation is free, but discipleship cost everything. This conversation is EVERYTHING! I am grateful for true teachers like you both, you are relevant to the Kingdom!

  • @bridgetwilson9599
    @bridgetwilson9599Ай бұрын

    "God will use what hurt you to heal you" -Preston When Preston said this I was rocked to my soul. I have been praying over the intimacy in my marriage. My husband was SA'd from the time he was a toddler to a young teen. Since having our son I can't be intimate with him without thinking about this and how evil lust for the body is. Preston's simple statement even though he was talking about church hurt hit me so deeply and answered my prayer. The thought that God can use our covenant intimacy to help heal this part of him is such a gift to me. Thank you guys for what you do. It is such a blessing!

  • @rachelmutambara7587
    @rachelmutambara75879 ай бұрын

    the color palette of this video is stunning. visually beautiful AND the word is good. I love it here.

  • @1990imthebest
    @1990imthebest9 ай бұрын

    I love their relationship so much 😭😂😂🙌🏾🫶🏾

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    Same🥹 it’s encouraging

  • @angelslovelybraiders2366
    @angelslovelybraiders23669 ай бұрын

    “Teach you how to look for God when you’re by yourself”💯💯💯

  • @ajatheartist
    @ajatheartist9 ай бұрын

    I miss devotion. I miss how much we used to pray during service and the songs we sang leading to that moment. Yes we were there all day 😂 but I miss that.

  • @sharimclean3909
    @sharimclean39099 ай бұрын

    I haven't listened to all of it... but my mom had chemo and still had her eyebrows. Never understood. Her hair started coming out and she just cut it off. So not too sure how it was. But thank God my mama survived! Praise God, cancer is nothing to joke about... Ok back to the pod

  • @CED.Dweller
    @CED.Dweller9 ай бұрын

    This was a beautiful moment. I, too, was healed from church hurt through God connecting me to a different church. Years later, the Lord led me back to the church where the hurt began to close the circle on that hurt. Thank you for following Holy Spirit’s leading in this conversation (and that magnificent prayer!).

  • @jamied.9284
    @jamied.92849 ай бұрын

    🤣"It's about you Jesus!" I'M WEAK!!!! ---- We need to walking our gifts though.

  • @thelightworkernetwork
    @thelightworkernetwork8 ай бұрын

    Finally!! People with influence who gets God’s heart!! Charisma is fine but it should never undermine the word or it’s principles

  • @sihlenyathi6399
    @sihlenyathi63999 ай бұрын

    Timothy Keller 🤌🏾 top -tier preacher

  • @Queenlikesoul
    @Queenlikesoul9 ай бұрын

    38:33 I did a podcast on Happy Shiny People and in retrospect, I was really thankful that God allowed me to go through the cult like life because I appreciate my authentic freedom in him and I enjoy my intimacy with him knowing that I’m safe and all that other stuff was a lie. It’s like a breath of fresh air, ya know

  • @dl2310
    @dl23109 ай бұрын

    I watch Pastor Tony Evans as well. Pastor Paul LeBoutillier of Calvary Chapel in Ontario Oregon who is a phenomenal teacher of God's word. Very thorough.

  • @patriciaarrigoni3221
    @patriciaarrigoni32219 ай бұрын

    YOu are so correct, Jackie! You are right on with social media is making it hard for the local pastor. I am having a hard time finding a local pastor that has the kind of teaching I have gotten from people like you, Tony Evans, Levi Lusko, Franis Chan, etc. It makes it hard to listen to someone that isn't on that same caliber.

  • @sianafrank2326
    @sianafrank23269 ай бұрын

    Every episode is always amazing !! Jackie I felt that fire girl lol I get so annoyed with the motivational speaking trend in the churches today that strays away from God purpose of having His Word here in writing for us. But side note “google : what is exegetical” 😭😭❤️

  • @ArtaviousCrooms
    @ArtaviousCrooms9 күн бұрын

    Their teaching and ministry always bless me. I love the truth, humility, and grace that is always poured out. I think as far as their conversation about the preachers who give "both" John Bevere is a wonderful example. Interesting enough, their podcast is a great example of focusing in on the truth versus entertaining the body and shows that the truth can be and is the most captivating thing.

  • @african4eva
    @african4eva9 ай бұрын

    Ohhhmygoshhh, lol!! STOP PLAYIN' WITH ME BOBBY was on repeat before I finally listened to the rest of this video. 😂😂😂

  • @TonyaWuzHea
    @TonyaWuzHea9 ай бұрын

    Yesss random church convo. 😁 You ever hear people say, “You said it” “But you were thinking it” 😌 Love the dialogue as usual 🥰

  • @Just4uJules
    @Just4uJules9 ай бұрын

    Tbh until the church becomes a real family willing to lay down our lives for one another (1 Thess 2:8, Phil 2;17, 1 Peter 4:9, ), many people see it as nothing more than a social club thrown in with some preaching and worship. About 23:27- there are people who are coming from a whole family where they are the only believer and they are losing everything in terms of fundamental support. They look to the church, but many times its run more like a self-interested business. Then they walk away disillusioned. Thank you for approaching this with a nuanced understanding and the prayers at the end. Bless you both for the work you’re doing.

  • @almacosta5229
    @almacosta52296 ай бұрын

    I started a virtual Bible study group and we’d meet twice a week, fast together, pray together virtually. We’ve done this for the past three years. Each one of us felt we grew so much. We are still doing studies virtually but meet on Sundays for service. God has been bringing people to service who have been giving there lives to Christ!! We are in awe of what He is doing!!!!

  • @25447carepear
    @25447carepear9 ай бұрын

    17:49 -17:56 YAAASS! Preachers are more into being clever than theologically sound.. This is why I can't sit in a church for 5 to ten minutes and know at " the warm up," whether I'm going to stay or not. I wish Lisa Fields invited y'all to " Courageous Convos," in D. C. at the end of the month...

  • @katrinamiles9675
    @katrinamiles96753 ай бұрын

    Yes, Dr. Keller: The Meaning of Marriage and The Reason for God!

  • @matthewbrown1185
    @matthewbrown11859 ай бұрын

    Dr. Hart Ramsey is also another really great Pastor/teacher that teaches sound doctrine and is located in atl at All nations atlanta church.

  • @latarshiayoung7517
    @latarshiayoung75179 ай бұрын

    This is such a well needed discussion. I always say that every sermon should be connected to the gospel. From Genesis to Revelation, it's all about Jesus!!

  • @rachellewilliams6258
    @rachellewilliams62588 ай бұрын

    That was so good Preston! People want to be entertained instead of straight Teaching without all the extra. Give me Jesus and the Word without fillers most of the time. That’s enough for me.

  • @teemac625
    @teemac6259 ай бұрын

    All of this 🙌🏽!!!! I am so glad you two are talking about this. I leave a church that only preaches their opinions for the first 30mins and only 5mins of the Word. But thank God I read my Word, I pray and I am round people who are grounded in their faith. The church is for the sick not to be entertained ! I need Jesus the Lamb and Lion because life can be HARD. Thank You Father 🙏🏾

  • @Janetherefinedwine
    @Janetherefinedwine9 ай бұрын

    You got me at the horrible praise critic and am aal the way in Uganda 😂

  • @kashahartz345
    @kashahartz3455 ай бұрын

    “You stained Gods carpet 🙁” 😂😂😂

  • @clamb6525
    @clamb65259 ай бұрын

    I'm glad that she said this because I've been frustrated about the GOSPEL NOT being preached!!!

  • @taimitillinghast6580
    @taimitillinghast65803 ай бұрын

    Being around community is to receive different perspectives of the word to get a deeper understanding of God's word.

  • @SashayAnn
    @SashayAnn24 күн бұрын

    I missed being in the building every Sunday and fellowshiping with my Christ Family during Covid.

  • @demarkestbrooks7896
    @demarkestbrooks78969 ай бұрын

    I was really challenged during the pandemic, because I went from going to church ⛪ every Sunday, bible study on Wednesday and having that connective fellowship, and when the doors closed it was like a culture shock. I'm third generation COGIC (Church of God in Christ) so I was excited and anticipating going back to church as usual. I think adjusting to having church differently was tough

  • @brinadamiller285
    @brinadamiller2859 ай бұрын

    Thanks for speaking on this. Because the church is faltering, for lack of assembling together. The Body has become lazy and the world is gaining ground. No prayer means there is no influence of the Spirit to overcome in the lives of the Body and the world. We got to understand our purpose in coming together. Basic reason is Christ and get to know Him better.

  • @APlll
    @APlll9 ай бұрын

    Yes to Tony Evans! So good, he made me like church 😂 OCBF has what you all were talking about with good worship and great preaching

  • @Christbeloved
    @Christbeloved9 ай бұрын

    "you stain god's carpet" i almost choked on my food!!!

  • @dejapham
    @dejapham9 ай бұрын

    I love my church. The community is great, the teaching is solid but great googly moogly…worship is so bad it hurts, and it lasts longer than the sermon most times 😫

  • @patienceshamaki9230
    @patienceshamaki92309 ай бұрын

    Do not despise the fellowship of fellow believers reminds, also iron sharpeneth iron comes to mind always to remind me that going to church is a necessity and not an option for Christians

  • @shaneepatrice456
    @shaneepatrice4569 ай бұрын

    Thank you for that prayer. I’m currently at a church I want to leave that Good hasn’t released me from. Thank you. 🙏🏾 51:24

  • @leonjj39
    @leonjj399 ай бұрын

    1. Preaching/teaching the gospel. 2. Good praise and worship . 3. Loving Fellowship f you can find all 3 in one Church than praise God . For today, it's difficult, especially if there is no offer salvation, but church membership is #1 . Lord helps us 🙏 & Thank you, Perry's

  • @rayzay-3659
    @rayzay-36599 ай бұрын

    The Perry couple is so in depth in conversation and insightful with explanation of God's Holy Word. They are both wonderful and intelligent to view!!❤❤❤. They are great students of God's Word. They represent truth, authenticity and modern about the millennial church and lifestyle of post pandemic Christianity ...Love u both 😊

  • @uber_stuber
    @uber_stuber9 ай бұрын

    omg that musician's ocd, i TOTALLY FEEL YOU ON THAT jackie lol

  • @CandaceLeAnne
    @CandaceLeAnne8 ай бұрын

    This random conversation was one of the richest conversations on the topic of the church that I’ve heard. The body is perplexingly complex and yet each joint (member) supplies. I absolutely love both of you testifying to the answer, which is to find Jesus at the root of all things underpinning corporate worship. What he came for. What he did. How he acts and what he leads us in doing and being for his glory. Who we belong to and the inheritance in Christ Jesus that we have. THANK YOU 🙏

  • @tamikalove2658
    @tamikalove26589 ай бұрын

    The First 5 min of the Perry’s random convo I’m dying the Whitney movie /Scamanda story has me laughing so loud😂😂😂😅 I truly love these gifts to the body of CHRIST🤣😂

  • @stacymitchell2092

    @stacymitchell2092

    9 ай бұрын

    I want to listen to that Podcast but I can't find it 😢. Can anybody help me find it 😊

  • @sugarplum019
    @sugarplum0199 ай бұрын

    It’s amazing to me how you both are amazing God is amazing When I almost lost everything (by mistakes through my addiction) I remember telling my mom I was getting “help” from everywhere and none of it was directly from scripture or God in fact all of it was outside of God so My mom would pray for me and with me I remember being lost it was horrible I’m so grateful for God saving me and my family we are all together happy God bless you both always Thank you

  • @mjk5254
    @mjk52549 ай бұрын

    it was a step above Lifetime because….she played a really good crackhead 😂 we’re barley a minute in

  • @gaycarberry8115
    @gaycarberry81157 ай бұрын

    Should bringing the gospel to community be about them showing us our desperate need for a relationship with God in our daily lives.

  • @britneeg
    @britneeg9 ай бұрын

    These preacher influencers are like eating McDonald’s. You think you fed yourself but there’s no real sustenance.

  • @KeriCheiree

    @KeriCheiree

    9 ай бұрын

    SAY THAT SIS!! The spirit in you can tell. You have a sense of emptiness when you leave. I’ve been there. That was God letting me know that there was something more to Him. I appreciate him for leading me to a place that has transformed my life and still is today! 🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @tinicoleofficial

    @tinicoleofficial

    9 ай бұрын

    THIS!🗣️💯

  • @charlenenurse1880
    @charlenenurse18809 ай бұрын

    This is so precious.

  • @nanampunganyi4058
    @nanampunganyi40589 ай бұрын

    Jesus identifies so much with The Church that coming at The Church is exactly like coming at JESUS! - Jackie Hill Perry

  • @amberraglin2773
    @amberraglin27734 ай бұрын

    The opening of this podcast has tickled my entire soul! 😂😂😂 Saints & The Aints 🎶 & Whitney! 💀 Sir Preston!

  • @tamora.monique
    @tamora.monique9 ай бұрын

    Yes! I have a problem with that too. What are we here for? I'm hungry out here!!! I just wasted an outfit and gas.

  • @stephanieevans9206
    @stephanieevans92065 ай бұрын

    I'm not able to get out because of my physical ailments. But I do enjoy watching Gary Hamrick he teaches the Bible from cover to cover and that's a predominantly all white church. I have very much matured in my walk with the Lord

  • @mercyndambuki192
    @mercyndambuki1929 ай бұрын

    I didn't even act like a toenail😂😂 Being in a physical church is a reflection of the spiritual reality of us being part of Christ's body. Wow