Holy crap that rangers kit was insane lets goo

Thank you E, for the constant stream of amazing content! Finally swapped from main Bard to Warlock. So draining your videos for guidance 🙏

Thank you for this analysis, I couldn't form a real opinion but your video is very useful and goes straight to the point. As always, quality content!

As a bard my builds typically depended on bringing in a lute that gave +7 mem cap and another instrument with +2. That way I can pure stack vigor/dex/agi/res. The GBMM means I will always and forever be in max lobbies (I don't mind this) that are predominantly dead (I do mind this). I mostly played duos but those have been so empty I have been finding teams for trios. Trios are empty 40% of the time, one other solo ratting 20% of the time, one other team 35% of the time, and 5% of the time we get a lucky lobby with two or three other teams. Those are the most engaging as just a flat 3v3 isn't quite as dynamic as the threat of being third partied and having to exert map control with good rotations.

From what people were inspecting for, especially Sparky had shown that theres usually one super sweat in each lobby

Could always make a series called something like "The Juice Hunter" where you go into low gear lobbies and exclusively kill the juicers. More on subject however, I think the now defunct Greed Is Good did gear based matchmaking well. They had it to where you could only go into low gear runs in white quality gear or lower and if you wanted greens/blues/purples you had to find them in the run.

Youre the pinnacle of decency and morality in this community.

2:20 WEAVE that was great

Dude, no SHOT you pulled a reverse seer. I am coming for you

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

bro I’m so rich I don’t even know what I would do with more keys 😂 I just made 25k off of a spike trap

@thelorr

3 ай бұрын

@@Euthafro hahahaha NICE! ggswp brother

Someone left me a comment on my video the other day and had an idea that I thought was really good so ive been spreading it out around the community for them to get other peoples thoughts "I get your thoughts. I'd like to see them change the 1-199 bracket to a basic high roller lobby with white gear like normals that can only be accessed after a character death. Same elite PvE, same drop rates. Only upon death would you requeue into this basic high-roller, maybe add an AP penalty just for that raid and a 15 minute cooldown after a successful extract to reduce abuse via intentional character death in the next game. If you survive, the next queue throws you into the 1-399 lobby (or 400+ if appropriate). This would focus on snowballing the player to acquire gear in the dungeon, like starting with a self-found mode (my dream preference for this game). Players could still have the option to immediately throw gear on after death and enter the 1-399 or 400+ lobby if that's your jam, or just stay default to get a better chance at a come-up. If people want to min/max at 399 I'm cool with it, the market appropriately reflects the cost of quality green gear. So if somebody really wants to seriously invest to stay at 399, go nuts. But right now, I have a better chance at finding gear in the map to pull me up to a competitive state in order to fight these min/maxers that rely too heavily on stats as a crutch. The opportunity for skill expression is much better right now in my opinion due to the more narrow gear gap. I think we've all had that high-roller fight where you die and you're certain it was real close...... then you see that they're still at 50-75% hp. I don't experience those radical powers differential now." - JoSchmo-gg

Warlock so op

8:27 LOL literally encountered firebox the other day doing this in my lobby. It was super obvious.

It’s probably not possible to make it impossible to tell where the cutoff is, but it could be chance based so the better gear you are the higher chance you have of ending up in the higher tier queues.

@JohnHilton-dz4mi

3 ай бұрын

Yea that what I was thinking. Rather than a cutoff it just gets everyone in the match making pool and puts them in groups from least geared to most geared. That way servers like OCE can still play with people.

I bring grey kits into HR and sell anything that's above common grade before re-queueing. Yes I'm a masochist, yes I'm a wizard main.

4:37 Bro watched an assassination

@aquienpaz

3 ай бұрын

LOL BRO THAT WAS WILD

any tips on how to deal with caster warlocks as barb, that fight at 14min seemed like 90% of my barb exp

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

It’s very hard unless you have rage and good movement speed. That barb was a good player and did all the right things, play a tight corner, wait for the right moment to jump hydra and all in. But I anticipated him too well. Having a Viking sword in off hand would have helped for more speed. If you have high movement speed (like >105%), you should farm warlocks as long as you fight somewhere that flamewalker isn’t op

I feel like it's better if u just don't don't care about it. It only becomes a problem if lobby's are dead IMO, shortening the gap between geared players seems fine even if there "bis greens"

@DrJesus-st9rk

3 ай бұрын

"just dont care that each game will have an unkillable player regardless how they play, that'll fix her" is a interesting take....

GBMM should be based damage output and there shouldn't be tiers at all. It should be a sliding window that can adjust to the available players queuing.

and it's rolled back.

So...if there is no one in lobby at your bracker, would you get put in by yourself? Or would the lobby put in the other brackets?

@tamabiz

3 ай бұрын

yes 400+ lobbies are empty right now a lot of the time

@admiralomega

3 ай бұрын

@@tamabiz ah, which is the most populated?

@Zak-jt6nk

3 ай бұрын

​@@admiralomegaus east gob caves mid tier bracket is the busiest

@admiralomega

3 ай бұрын

@@tamabiz And does that also apply in Trios/Duos? if your team is in a bracket that no one else is in, will it try and autofill from other brackets? or would you potentially even be able to go in with just your own team?

@tamabiz

3 ай бұрын

@@admiralomega low and mid (399 gear score and below) are usually full in my experience. there is a page on the wiki that outlines gear score values and tiers. also there is a spreadsheet in the description of toddfathers video about it that will calculate it for you. they did just change the values though so u will have to update it but it's really easy to use.

yo i was the ranger my guy. i didn't die in 2 days straight. i wiffed the jump gg's. hopefully u get good use out of the kit

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

Ggs bro, we’ll have a real fight next time. Sucks to lose your kit that way but at least it sounds like you got your money’s worth

@nayr6482

3 ай бұрын

​@@Euthafro just glad it went to someone cool. i have 12k hours in rust so i dont ever get attached to gear. i have alot of warlock stuff if your interested in trading some of that kit back if you havent already sold it :P

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

@@nayr6482 all sold. I think just the one grimsmile is still up on trade for 4k if you want it

I dont get why everyone panics about the gear score so much. Even if you barely get into a new tier lobby the gear gap is still way less than before and actually fightable - that wasn't the case before. If the gear score never got published everyone would be happy having way fairer matchups, now everyones got FOMO on reaching certain gear score limits.

@Zak-jt6nk

3 ай бұрын

Fights shouldn't always be fair in games like this it's a full loot pvpve extraction game. GBMM literally removes the essence of the game which is get/find better gear fight more people repeat. If every fight is fair u will lose as much as you win putting people in a position where they never really gain from pvp which causes teaming etc to happen. I get both sides of the argument nobody likes being is mid gear and getting stomped by a dude in a 60k kit but GBMM brings more problems than that on my opinion and makes the game really stale

@Midwestemoisme

3 ай бұрын

people will actually claim “but bruhhhhh they’ll make bis green kits!!!” like bro??? the difference between a set of purples and greens is farkin staggering lol you have a much better chance at fighting greens with whites then against whites with purples lol

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

I feel like a lot of people see a system and start gaming it without even thinking. But for me, I don’t like how empty the lobby gets at the high end. I was playing at prime time on US east for the vid and had 5 players tops, most of which just ran on sight. Even the juiced ranger ran into the storm after a crossbow headshot opener. And you’ll get 0 players sometimes during off hours

@VinisKitchen22

3 ай бұрын

I think part of the problem here too is that while the gear gap might be less than before in some cases you now have the ability to go into a lobby and guarentee that you are the most geared person in that lobby which allows you to freely run around and stomp everyone where as before you didnt actually know if you were the most geared person in any given lobby and that forced a lot of people to play much more cautiously.

@botuptop9345

3 ай бұрын

new video coming maybe? i miss your content

miau

there needs to be caps on gear and stat, the game has come down to gear diffs and not skill diff.

only 4 skull keys??

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

I tried for days to get 5 so we could do an even key split but no one was biting. Also the rolls were a crime lol

im selling famine too!!!!

Just got to the point where you ask why ranking exists if its not what your matched on. PREACH! Most based DAD creator. Whole friggin palyer base too mad about multiclassing to even think about GBMM.

@Midwestemoisme

3 ай бұрын

trust bro everyone is crying about whatever there is to cry about, no lack of that lol

@VinisKitchen22

3 ай бұрын

Couldnt agree with this more... Rank is probably the best public indicator of skill, why would we not use that to matchmake players?

meow

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

Woof

I'm am more of what would be considered a casual player. I wouldn't even be able to multiclass without the xp buffs. as someone that's more casual I still do not like gbmm. though playing this game causally im still able to get to endgame gear and money on a class within a few nights of playing because I've played the game for a while and its really not that difficult. Gear is the whole thing that makes up an extraction game and there's no point to gear at all if everyone's constantly on the same level. I even saw this crazy cope in general chat about how "IM is trying to create a matchmaking where all skill and gear levels can exist just like the cycle did and its a great thing." Brother the cycle died, servers shut down because gbmm sucked, it made dead lobbies and the perfect lobbies for hackers to farm for rmt. It doesn't belong in the game and at this point I'm pretty much done with the wipe and when I do hop on I just hop in norms because I'm not going to sit here with a calculator figuring out my gear score for every game and when I use the bis in my stash I just get put in dead lobbies. So sorry in advance to the under lvl 15 Timmy's I run through with my sprinting bard, blame IM. GBMM along with MC shouldn't be in the game and they've made norms the only active way to quickly get into pvp and just have fun.

I actually disagree with the idea that putting on BIS green stuff just under gear limit to next tier is wrong. The community is just too hardcore to slap on whatever and expect success. I put on 2true phys on everything and everyone I run into is running 2true magic/+1all even in the green gear lobbies. People naturally will just kit up as much as they can and gear quality makes no sense when the substats are honestly what make or break kits into being broken or garbage. You choosing to just not engage in it and wear whatever is chad as heck and I respect it but I disagree with the sentiment anyone is "smurfing" - like do we even have casuals in the community at this point? Most people playing are pretty hardcore and the casuals are the people with like 500-1000 hours because it's a niche game on a niche game platform since we lack players from epic or steam yet. I even told my friends not to bother with it until it gets a proper release somewhere bigger because I know they'd just get slapped around and uninstall. This community sadly is nothing but people who no life the game so I don't think trying to min max anything is "abusing" the system so much as you're just playing on the same level as everyone else. I don't really see a point in handicapping yourself so I'm either running nothing for fun zero to hero runs or I'm running giga BIS as much as I can. I don't think the gear score matching works at all.

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate your thought out reply. I think for me, on warlock, and at my experience level, it has to be smurfing. That kit was way too op. Maybe for other classes or players it’s less impactful and wouldn’t be so unethical

@dotapazappy

3 ай бұрын

@@Euthafro Yeah, I get that. It might be different running meta classes like warlock or slayer fighter is pretty smurfy in low gear lobbies.

IDK about you, but GBMM SAVES the game. normal crypts run you will be facing giga bis. go in as base kit and you only see a few blues at best. its way more fair to the lower geared players while giving a bis player the choice to face someone their own size.

@DrJesus-st9rk

3 ай бұрын

shit take, try agin

get reverse scammed XD

Boo! GBMM doesnt belong in extraction games! Get it out of the game

@Midwestemoisme

3 ай бұрын

look at this dude tryna make definitive claims about something he didn’t make lol

@mateoarteaga8274

3 ай бұрын

You're right, and they blame the players for playing by their rules at the top of the weight class. Don't blame the player for following the rules you made.

@isaacjeanneret3533

3 ай бұрын

A lot of people are BiSing because they dont have much other choice nowadays. I have just over 200hrs and if i dont at least try to min-max in the low to mid brackets of HR, i simply get clapped in pvp every single time by someone who is/a crazy multiclasser. Some of us are out here just tryna survive the current state of the game. I definitely aint out here wiping lobbies 😂

What Is The Point Of Gear If You're Matched With People With Equal Gear?

there only is two brackets @euthafro

@Euthafro

3 ай бұрын

They changed it, there used to be 3

You know gbmm is a problem when my green reinforced gloves with +2 additional sell for 4 times as much as a blue pair.

@VinisKitchen22

3 ай бұрын

preach...

@MrKeyalis

3 ай бұрын

What Is The Point Of Gear If You're Matched With People With Equal Gear?

@DrJesus-st9rk

3 ай бұрын

just like when you could take only greens into normals all over again. IM never learns

I'm just glad they tested it. Its unfortunate that people will look up how to abuse it, and make it obsolete, but thats just the nature of video games now. I'd like to think they could iron out the issues with it and get it in a good place, but it would likely take too long and cause a lot of damage to the playerbase/ population of the game. I think they need to be focusing more on balancing whats already in the game in preparation for their launch on Epic Games

@mateoarteaga8274

3 ай бұрын

It's not abuse it's use. If the rules are used and the result is dumb, it's a dumb rule

@kaganatorplays9205

3 ай бұрын

Then why introduce multiclass? That will deffinitly ruin the player base. ITS going to just be streamers and no lifers playing the game

Gear based matchmaking doesn't work properly. I qued into HR ice caves in base kit and there was a ranger in there with 2 legendaries 2 purps and the rest blue. Gear base matchmaking is a joke.