Thank you very much for your suggestions and tips. I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

@arcadeslum5882

Ай бұрын

Mesh the entire side panel, try to make for as much airflow as possible.

@taikisonoda

13 күн бұрын

Use Acer mini PC veriton n4640g, it have full size PCIe x16 on side body

love the jazz music with the mini pc build!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

An Arc A380 would be ideal for this setup. Especially with the 45w TDP.

This is the best mod so far that I've seen with these micro machines.

This is basically the same as the Lenovo M720q/M920x pcs! they all feature a 8x slot, which is very rad in my opinion. Also this can be noticed by the Lenovo OEM logo on the PCB, nice >:] BTW the Lenovo ones are pretty inexpensive so anyone could recreate this!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Yes. I guess it has the same chassis with some Lenovo Tiny generations also.

@kishirisu1268

2 ай бұрын

Yes it it exactly same box as Lenovo which I have, but mine is without gpu. That is very powerful working pc, even though it is already 10 years old.

@dobremihajlov3516

2 ай бұрын

Same as lenovo just white case,another brand and power button is different

@NetrunnerAT

2 ай бұрын

I use this Case with a Tiny 910X and a i9-9900T yes its a old PC. 😅

@FilippoCarrux

2 ай бұрын

@twisted have the m720q and m920x the pci x8 slot?

even though the gpu didn't work well this was such an awesome build! I loved the 3D printed expansion. So smart!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I did some performance improvement. You can check out my latest video.

3:53 Taking a look at the 8500T datasheet, It only has 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes which can be either 1x16, 2x8 or 1x8+2x4. This motherboard is probably configured for the latter with a possible configuration where that SSD2 section is populated by another NVME slot which can operate at x4. Though the B360 controller in this board also offers 11 more PCIe 3.0 lanes. 12:32 Considering the extra height added by the A2000 shroud, it looks like there's plenty of space for the 2.5 SSD to go in there over the CPU heatsink.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your information. About adding 2.5 SSD into the extra space, I also considered. The difficulty is I might need another longer SATA flex cable to route from under the GPU which is not easy to find. Moreover, the space above the cpu shroud, especially near the rear exhaust, has high temperature. Thus I thought it wouldn't worth it. Just use an M2 SSD with suitable amount of space, and use external SSD via USB 3.0 if needed is good enough and more simple.

@Karti200

2 ай бұрын

The problem is not the space itself but getting a specific flex cable that both sends power and data. Lenovo has their own one used here and it is very short

@BrunodeSouzaLino

2 ай бұрын

@@Karti200 That's just a regular flex cable which combines SATA and the smaller SATA power into a cable which terminates into a regular SATA one on the other side. Those are common on laptops. when you don't want a round cable and a vertical connector on the board. Some adapters even have a removable flex on the drive side so you can procure a longer one just in case.

You made an amazing system for retro gaming! Amazing project! Thanks!

Love your content! Especially on the Dell Precision lineups

I have done this with 2 P330's ( 8700T & 9700T ) Tiny's. Both have a GTX1070 8GB connected with a riser cable. They were just collecting dust haha. I'm also using a Dell DA-2 for external power ( 6+2). Zero issues with everything maxed out in Afterburner. The GPU is on a metal stand designed to go into PC case. The stand was 12$ and is all metal with magnets on the bottom. I'm considering mounting both PC's ( one on each side ) of an open-air vertical mount test bench. The one that is vertical and had a handle. They are like 30$ on Amazon. I use them for my testing and VM's. Sometimes I'll use the one to capture / record my 4K 60 Microscope Camera in OBS to take a load from my desktop. These are awesome and I had everything just laying around so why not tinker.

The CPU seems to be giving way for the GPU to use up all the powerbudget. Notice the cpu racing to reach 800mhz a large portion of the time. I suggest that you try to run Throttlestop to force the CPU to clock higher and or increase its TDP limits which might be artificially limited by the motherboard since it detects a 70w GPU in the main pcie slot.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks very much for your info. I appreciate. I did some update. You can check out the latest video.

What an impressive job you did! I love it!

Very nice and compact little console killer! Love the production quality as well.

It is not similar... it simply is a rebranded Lenovo Thinkcentre...

Love the build, nice work with the 3D prints.

Got one of these mini pc’s to mount under a desk for a hidden work PC at the start of covid. It’s not being used now and I’ve been thinking about using it with an external gpu in the living room. Thanks for the video, some good ideas there.

Looks like a small retro console with the color combination. I like it. Great job :)

Very nice, may the algorithm work in your favor

Thanks for the video! The specs alone will make this an excellent retrogaming machine! From my experience with Lenovo mini-PCs, the BIOS settings need a little tweeking to accommodate the speedy RAM and the addition of the GPU.

Very cool project!

your thumbnail of practical combination was excellent

Wow, the more I watch the more I'm amazed.

Great work bringing new life back to the old gal!…earned a sub

The best mini pc with upgrade and mod, great video!!

Nice job, really clean.

This was awesome, thank you!

The Sparkle A310 ECO has a max draw of 50W and is actually low profile and doesn’t have a Chungus of a Heat shield Incase someone doesn’t want to mod the case with 3D printing

this is GOLD man

Very cool build and video.

I wished I did this back when I primarily 'gamed' on an $80 laptop where the raw specs was non-modifiable (soldered), I regret not purchasing a desktop at the time, I didn't even move place to place often, but nowadays I just use a custom built 'gaming desktop' being a ddr5 build with the exception that the card is meant for great 1080p gaming, but an okay 1440p experience.

Can you do an updated video after u install throttlestop and disabling the bd protocol. I want to see how much better the a2000 performs. This is an ideal future upgrade path for me from a T1000. Thanks

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I did it. You can check out my latest video.

@ll_spud

2 ай бұрын

@@thinhdora Really glad u did it. Checking it out now!

This is awesome. My work is off loading a bunch of these Lenovos. I planned on getting one and now i have a cool project to work on.

@s0ld475

Ай бұрын

An arc a380 would probably be best

@jorgeemilianodiazfuentes148

Ай бұрын

​@@s0ld475these Lenovos doesnt have RE-BAR option in the bios , RX 6400 should be a better option

Really nice mode. I have the exact nec pc model and i wondered if the pcie slot can be used with a graphic card. Do u know if there any 1 slot graphic card that fit without moding the case?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

If you don’t want to mod, pay attention to the IO bracket. Factory fit models I know are Nvidia P and T series, they share the same IO bracket, and they have dedicated bracket from Lenevo. Other single slot models like RX 6400 LP technically work too but I’m not sure if the general purposed bracket at 11:11 fits.

NECs are pretty cool, I think they are actually just rebadged Lenovos but beige instead. Now if they made rebadged Thinkpad in beige, I am drooling already

This is something people in America like myself would enjoy! You made a "face mask" for the case, modifying how it looks and it looks amazing! Like having a Japanese car have an American engine in it, there's something different about it!

Great video! I really enjoy thia type of video very much. Don't know what to recomend. Hope to see moee

This is a very interesting build! I am curious about using the internal PCIe slot for Oculink for an eGPU instead of trying to graft on an internal GPU. Would that be an option? Perhaps have a very small PC power supply where you create the output for the existing PC as well as enough for the e-GPU and any PCIe power it wanted? I generally would agree with the ARC cards for value here although this might also let you run the A2000 at full speed. I'm looking at all these kinds of builds thinking of putting together a "Steam machine" for fun, but want the cost and effort to be minimal. So older CPUs, RAM, and GPUs are generally adequate but I'd really like it all wrapped up in an old Dell/Lenovo/whoever SFF case.

The 2 tone is cool as fuck. This whole build is awesome. This was a very comfy video. Thank you.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Haha. It depends on each person's perspective. For me, the black cover with the white base is ugly af 😂

Subbed, you have a great style.

I love the jazz, great for watching at night

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

I wanted this computer!

it is good video. I liked very much. Thank you for posting!

this looks like an NEC rebadge of the ThinkStation M720q or similar model (could also be the other way around)

Great job! Do the 3d printed parts hold up with the temps?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Not at all. I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out for the performance and temp.

Love the look of the keyboard in the beginning of the video. Is it built? What’s the case?

This is beautiful! instant like and sub

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your support!

nice work!!

Love this!! Do you have a recommended course for fusion 360 and 3d printing?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I watched only this video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5x30c-hYcusqrw.html It isn't a course, just an entrance tutorial to get familar with some basic terms like sketch, extrude, chamfer, ... Then expanding the skill by the official documentation. help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU The official documentation is easy to understand.

Best build ever!! Great video :))) Gotta try doing this one for one of our itty bitty setups. Maybe use an Arc a380?

Just a few weeks ago, I decided to buy a 1lt Mini PC of this type. I chose a Refurbished HP Elitedesk 705 G5 with Ryzen 5 Pro 3400g at 65w. After 3 days the SSD I came with died and I had to buy another one, not to mention that as a precaution I also changed the RAM for a pair in Dual Channel in addition to changing the Thermal Paste for an Artic one. Fortunately, restoring the system was easy thanks to the HP Bios, which curiously is also its Achilles heel by not having any advanced configuration for either OC or UV. I highlight the latter due to temperature issues since it does heat up somewhat when the TDP exceeds 50w. I have been doing tests and removing the Cover, lowering the temperature by about 7-9°C which gives me a slight margin to handle a little more than 55w TDP and, therefore, a little more FPS. In performance, except for temperature, it is equal to the Stock R5 3400g Desktop, and Vega 11 still works for play in HD +30fps... Honestly, for the price I paid in total, which was about 240dlls with everything and the emergency extras, I consider myself well served. Thanks to your video I made the decision to cancel my project of installing an NVME egpu and it would be better keep playing at 30s HD and save up for a Mini ITX computer with a LP GCard. I am worried about investing more in the Elitedesk and not getting all the potential out of it (or other piece crash...) But your project looks awesome and i hope you can improve the performance very soon. Greetings... Thanks for the information and explanation...

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed. I have a couple of HP mini pc too (Prodesk lineup) before I found this one and I love them too. Btw, if you have time, you can check the latest video. I managed to gain more performance with a simple app. Don’t need any further tweaking like overclock and undervolt.

Charming that you gave a new life to it. I have recently bought Dell Wyse Dx0D (5020) to run home server. For gaming modern games - I dont think thats the use case, rather emulators or pihole, home storage, which wouldn't require the additional GPU. Maybe PS3 games? For modern gaming nah, laptop or Steam Deck.

great video i have the lenovo 920x tiny, wich have 2 nvme m.2 ports in the back and the pcie gpu card slot,, im gona get somenthing like the radeon rx 6400 LP or nvidia quadro p1000 LP. But im thinking in use some egpu adaptor to use a more powerfull card externally, do you know is the usbc ports in the lenovo tiny pc support tunderbolt 3? or the usbc expancion installed inthe back can be used for external gpu adapters, nice video

@ll_spud

2 ай бұрын

I have a m720q. I had the P1000 and upgraded it to a T1000. Similar performance to a 1650. You can also look at a T600. Also if u install a gpu make sure u download and install throttlestop and disable bd protocol. Otherwise bios limits cpu to 800mhz due to extra power required for gpu. Disabling it removes that limit. Also I don't think it supports Tb3. It's a usb3 port.

@THECIBOR009

2 ай бұрын

@@ll_spud thanks very helpful

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

For the model in this video, the USB-c isn’t thunderbolt, just USB 3 interface. I’m not sure about the ThinkStation version. BTW I manage to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out. You don’t need an external chunky card.

awesome video

Sick modifications to the mini pc. Bit unfortunate with power limits, handicapping the a2000's performance. Have you considered other low profile gpu's?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

It’s cool thanks !

love your video hope i see more videos of your like this in the future

Take my sub. Awesome channel bro!

first 2 minutes : oh its kinda similar to lenovo system after 3 minutes : I KNEW IT, ITS LENOVO ALL ALONG!!!

I also have that NEC computer and i have added a nvidia P620.. I love you 3D printed case extension. But just an idea. If you make it look like a mini IBM 5150, XT or AT... It would be really cool. Since the proportions after the extension is not too far off, the cream/beige color of the NEC is pretty close too. Thanks for the video

You could put a mosquito net (black) on the exhaust of GPU... To protect that big hole... Insects will be drawn there when the power is of...

Maybe you could remove a hole for both fans so the GPU could run cooler, btw good job love the build!

very enterprise grade hardware here, the brands usually are seen in production settings like restaurants and POS.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

That’s true. The enterprise things attract me.

Impressive what can be done with a 3d printer these days. Makes me want to get one to tinker with.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Yes. The 3D printers are so useful for the hobbyists. Save a lot of time from crafting stuffs.

Hi, you can try to deactivate two core from the bios. The remaining four core can boost higher with the limited 35w tdp. I tried this method on a similar Dell with the i5 10500. Very well made video!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks very much for your tip. I mange to make it perform as it should in my latest video. Check it out.

what a beautiful machine

Stayed for the music and playbackspeed at 2

Nice mini PC to bad is held back by the CPU limited wattage; because of this up grading it won't do much because of that limitation, it would be awesome if some how the UFFI Bios can be patch so it can be adjusted.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

man that looks so cool.. would buy the plastic printed parts if you made them.. always wanted to have a name brand tiny PC with a RTX A2000..

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I think it’s easy to outsourcing the 3D printing parts anywhere these days. It’s popular. I also really want a factory ship mini PC compatible with the RTX A2000. Honestly, homemade 3D printing is just a workaround. Can’t beat factory production. BTW, I did some improvement in performance for this pc in my latest video. Check it out.

oh damn i wish i had a 3d printer you can do cool things like this with it

My local goodwill had those HP mini Pcs that you had for $75. I chose not to get it and went with a SFF dell OptiPlex for the same price. I put in an RX 6400 and it pairs very well with the i5 8500. It's not as small, but it's a good comprise between power and size. I would be bummed out if i had your combination, that CPU is really holding back the A2000. Super cool 3d print, looks professional.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I have a couple of HP Prodesk mini too and used to have an Optiplex micro too, all of them are enterprise grade hardware and serve me well. I love them too. BTW, I did some performance improvement for this machine in my latest video. Check it out!

good job

I have a P330 gen2 and ran my PCIe extension cable externally . This is so much cleaner . wish I could figure out how to build a 3D printed case for it.

Lovely your effort into making these videos is amazing! the time you take to be sure verything is correct. Your chanel should get more attention!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate you support!

Maybe adding a secondary power input for the 12v rail for the pcie bridge (bypass the onboard supply) and have the option to crank the A2000!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

would love for it to have another hole on top from where the cpu cooler can draw air in like the gpu does. and a solid front instead. maybe the option to use the round hole of the original powerbutton :) other that that, it is amazing work. the changes would make it a good option for a NAS

Quality content 👍🏽

Hi! I'm making a very similar project but the STL files you shared are SLIGHTLY too short (like by 1cm) - could you please share the originals with us, so I can edit them myself? Thank you!!!

@thinhdora

Ай бұрын

Sorry for my slow response. I already upload the Fusion 360 file at the Printable page. Could you check it again?

i think for that kind of performance unless you have specific need for quicksync and cuda i would get a ryzen apu which is usually smaller and even more efficient

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your opinion. That's true. However I managed to make it performs as it should. Check out the latest video if you have time.

Nicee! I have a ThinkCentre m720q tiny which is really similar running as a home media server :) This CPU is very good at decoding/encoding videos seamlessly :D

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I also have another HP as a homelab too!

Great Mod ! I have the same micro form factor Dell optiplex 3046, with Core i5 6500T but never opened it, Can we upgrade its specs ? please guide ?

As it is below 100W of consumption, you can add USBC power. This eliminates the need for the standard Lenovo power input.

Perhaps a faster quad core like an 8100 with higher clocks may be better suited for games.

i luv these little Lenovo machines

This is awesome, I am thinking of getting an M720Q and using an RX 6400, get the lid of a P330 as it has the same mounting points and has the ventilation for both the CPU and GPU too. Would make for a living room sized Steam Machine.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Nice idea. That would be a clean setup for living room.

This pc throttles the cpu quite fast, eaven when it's "cold". You can change that behavior with throttlestop. There you can desable DB Prochot, which will remove the stutter. You can see that behavior on the video. When you experience stutter the cpu is using 5w, instead of 30w or 35w.

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

The total price for diy project will be same (or higher) as buy similar mini pc with GPU. Only 3d printer costs insane amount of money..

@sparkie5571

2 ай бұрын

Moat universities in my state have a 3d printer in their makerlab. Price to print is very cheap as i dont have a 3d printer and have used them before. Something worth checking out!

The Board and case looks nearly identical to my Lenovo P340 Mini PC

I was going to use a Tesla P4 in my M720q but it wouldn't detect it sadly. worked with my rx6400 though.

Hey, Lenovo Thinkcentre! Wow did you dyed your chassis?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

For the plastic parts, yes. Just 3D print them. The original metal chasis is factory made.

Curious about an ARC A380 in this build.

@user-il9so7iu9s

2 ай бұрын

An a380 would work really well since it has a 45W max TDP

Please make more in this form factor. Maybe with a graphics card that fits without need for 3d print.

would an rx 6400 or an arc a310 be a better fit? they're both tiny cards that only pull about 50 watts of power and they're single slot cards

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your suggestion. Definitely they will. This model supports 50w GPUs out of the box, which are the Nvidia P cards. However I ‘d like to push this tiny box over the limit. Btw, I managed to make it work as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

good mod . good life

It doesn't make much sense if you can't feed GPU with enough power it requires. Even regular desktop motherboards can only provide up to 75W via PCIe. I suggest you get a different GPU with external power input. I have a tiny micro-ITX build and I bought AMD FirePro W7100 8GB GPU for it due to its slim form factor (1 slot). Great video after all!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

I own the M910Q Intel 7th Gen, but i cannot see any PCIe slot on the board. Can you help me to find it out where it cloud be? do I need to solder something on it?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I can’t say for sure, but it looks the m910q doesn’t have the connector even the board has the available area. It might be a cut-down version of m920q. You might find a blank space where the slot should be.

people have even done single slot mods on the a2000 to make it fit in the stock case!

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I’d love to try too!

Will have to try your model with mine P330 Tiny. It is literally M720Q / M920Q but with beefier cooler (whole cooper one) and 2x NVMe slots instead of one currently having i7-8700T and RX 6400 inside of it

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I managed to make it performs as it should in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

will you release the print files so we can do this at home?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Thanks for reminding. Please check the description, I’ve just included the download link for related files.

@ll_spud

2 ай бұрын

​@thinhdora Thanks. I wanted to ask you for it as well. I've got a m720q + T1000 gpu. This will be good if I want to upgrade the gpu in the future. P.s make sure u download and install throttlestop and disable bd protocol. I had the same performance issues as you until I figured it out. Cpu is only working at 800mhz with gpu install hence low performance. Once u disable it, it will run at full speeds. It's very easy to download and install

Very interesting mini pc... Hmmm can you put in it something like qqls, qqlt, etc. with bios modification?

@thinhdora

2 ай бұрын

I will take a look at your keyword. BTW I managed to make it performs as it should without any further mod in my latest video. Check it out if you have time.

That PCIe bus looks a lot like an ISA slot....