"You have a much lower error rate than most youtubers" is probably the highest mark of approval you can get from a uni professor !!!

@francescofavro8890

2 жыл бұрын

well said, Lance friend.

@Andyman2340

2 жыл бұрын

He has a lower error rate than the professor himself at this point

@kevinlasher2812

2 жыл бұрын

Well my comment was deleted, but I still want to assert that the professor gave a real backhanded compliment in my opinion. Derrick doesn't really deserve to be talked down to and doubted like that and it's very gracious of him to take fault in botching the explanation but holy hell that uni prof needs to take notes from Bill Nye and just be nice.

@pvs_np

2 жыл бұрын

I could say, Veritassium is already more than a simple youtuber/KZread channel.

@argeurasia

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinlasher2812 I think the professor was overconfident, put too much weight in weak arguments (like Derek getting into Blackbird many times??), and was also condescending as you suggested. Maybe he thought he would easily win $10000. The already existing treadmill-footage clearly showed the cart wasn't being "pushed forward"; there was no "bias" in that sense (the bias was in the professor's mind that people would be as silly as to do the treadmill experiment repeatedly and always "unconsciously" push it forward). But mainly, "the video falls short of providing evidence that the motion faster than the wind occurs with a non-negative acceleration and that it is not caused by the wind variability. " Derek's treadmill experiment clearly shows there is positive acceleration relative to the ground. Unless he was suggesting that somehow the wind behind the propeller acquires higer speeds, or to vary so much so as to get the negative acceleration he mentioned. Again, clearly not present in the treadmill experiments. It seems he is trying to look gracious "Oh well, I had to concede if I wasn't 100% correct". But he was just wrong. To me, the main issue was understanding how the "turbine" worked. In any case, he should have gotten himself fully familiarized with the problem (or maybe he actually was, and is playing dumb) before betting that amount of money...Apparently didn't even check the literature on the problem. The professor suggested the bet right? Kind of weird. Not sure what he wanted to get out of it. Maybe "school a youtuber"? Prevent the spread of what he thought was pseudoscience? In brief, arrogance got the better of him.

Wow, I forgot that rational and intelligent people who can have a disagreement, openly listen to arguments against their point of view, and then admit they were wrong and change their minds still exist. It's such a rare thing nowadays.

@foty8679

2 жыл бұрын

@Sanningen It is rare lol. Do you live in a cave?

@TurinTuramber

2 жыл бұрын

No shame in making a robust logical argument and then dropping it for a stronger one.

@cpsaleemyt

2 жыл бұрын

Ya! But that can only happen when you are committed to facts and not committed to yourself ! And that's science !

@OGPatriot03

2 жыл бұрын

The media bans and censors doctors who disagree with the media.

@echopeus22

2 жыл бұрын

@@OGPatriot03 not to mention scientist getting payed by governments to sway the masses - Billy Nye needs to re-think Genders

Kusenko, you legend. Anyone who speaks his mind in a situation like this, gets corrected, and controls his ego like advanced human, putting fun and progress first is the MVP.

@charlesoboyle4787

8 ай бұрын

The prof is a man- a (mensch?).

@michaelbread5906

6 ай бұрын

I wonder if he did all this just for the celebrity/spectacle.

@jpietersen519

6 ай бұрын

Back when the video came out he made a big twitter thread stating he still didnt believe Veritasium to be right, but that he only conceded on a technicality

@justind4615

6 ай бұрын

@@jpietersen519 bruh but veritasium made it obvious that he's right

@roots4x

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelbread5906 and be proven wrong in front of all his peers? No way. He did this because he though Veritasium was wrong, but gracefully conceded defeat

You tricked me into a physics lecture on a Saturday. Damn you; thank you.

@richardcope5066

3 ай бұрын

Hello Mr Professor!

@muhammad_bariz

2 ай бұрын

Same 😂

@heisenburg_308

2 ай бұрын

Samee it's sat too here

@johndymond4596

2 ай бұрын

For real 8 months after your Saturday but it's my time now

@HaroldBluetooth-uz1zz

Ай бұрын

Same here! Lol!

Derek, can you just turn Veritasium into a gambling channel where scientists with opposing views put money on the table and face off to try to convince one another of the true answer? I'd watch that.

@DyslexicMitochondria

2 жыл бұрын

ill watch the hell out of it lol

@DP-ot6zf

2 жыл бұрын

HA! That would be the greatest show on Earth!

@moremitochondria2737

2 жыл бұрын

​@@DyslexicMitochondria Hey bro i watch ur videoss. Love ur channeI

@lordbuddybear

2 жыл бұрын

Veritasium sounds like a science thunderdome anyway :D

@iwanmommaerts5960

2 жыл бұрын

i think a lot of people would put money on the table to watch it ;)

He disagreed, he still disagreed and then he realised that he was wrong and conceded his position. If only matters of politics and other public debate would be handled in such professional manner…

@gtdrummerdude

2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to know who is right and wrong in politics. Was an outcome directly caused by a policy or was it something else? In the world at large there are so many factors that it's almost impossible to show causality.

@KLP99

2 жыл бұрын

And there's no such thing as "settled science" else you've moved beyond science and are in the realm of cultism.

@joshanonline

2 жыл бұрын

Politics is an Art of Deception. It cannot be handled in a reasonable manner because it's easier to fool people than to tell them they were fooled.

@Suninrags

2 жыл бұрын

The main difference between politics and science is science deals with matters of truth, while politics deal with matters of morality. The ultimate goal of politics is to create a society that maximizes justice and comfort for the individuals in that society as well as determine who or what that society is. In a melting pot like the US with such diverse opinions and ideologies pepole will naturally butt heads. If you reached the end of this then thank you for reading and please share your thoughts I like discussing this stuff on the internet, it's fun :)

@gtdrummerdude

2 жыл бұрын

@I love you but You can talk about the past though, and it's still hard to show direct causality. Look how many people still argue that communism and socialism would be good for people even though every attempt at it has ended very badly. The only people who seem to be able to convincingly draw conclusions of casuality from policies are largely ignored- Thomas Sowell for example. And even then it isn't FACT, it's just conjecture and anicdote.

Kusenko has my respect, losing bet in your own science and keeping it civil and admitting he is wrong is truly respectful. he has the balls

@dibdab7990

Ай бұрын

He never admitted he was wrong, he only conceded the bet. According to Cavallero ""He conceded on a technicality - that the vehicle moves marginally faster than the wind temporarily" "I offered him another $10,000 bet, because his technicality is entirely wrong, but I know I won't be hearing from him."

@JavierGonzalez-pj2gg

Ай бұрын

​@@dibdab7990 crazy right and to think this guy is teaching.

Professor Kusenko gets my respect. Being able to accept being wrong and pay out the bet shows a lot about his personality. His students are lucky to have him as a mentor.

@Alec72HD

6 ай бұрын

This is relatively obvious Physics problem. Hope he doesn't teach Physics majors.

@DaedStarr

5 ай бұрын

The problem was his initial response to the experiments. There were multiple examples, all with the same result. And he just refused to not only believe it, but to even bother to test it himself first. And I believe the only reason he was humble was because it was all public. He was so sure he was right, but got essentially destroyed.

@VicJang

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for both of your comments. Love different opinions.

@roihemed5632

2 ай бұрын

​@@VicJangBro is the ultimate pluralist.

@voluntarism335

2 ай бұрын

I would fire him, he clearly does not know anything about physics if he got this wrong

The professor is a true man of science. He was wrong, admitted failure, and learned something new! If only all scientists were so pure.

@Milesco

2 жыл бұрын

Not just scientists, but people in general.

@threepe0

2 жыл бұрын

His admission was less than complete if you followed the discussion on Twitter. It was basically “I was right, but there was a stipulation to the requirements I didn’t take into account”

@HevaNaisdey

2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to argue otherwise when the result is evident...

@Cecilia-ky3uw

2 жыл бұрын

most scientists are tho

@Milesco

2 жыл бұрын

@@threepe0 : Did he say what that stipulation was?

the world needs more scientists, disagreeing about something and the only thing that happens is a very civil discussion.

@slazerlombardi

2 жыл бұрын

It's like... they want to know the truth regardless of their beliefs... Those crazy scientists...

@taragnor

2 жыл бұрын

That's what happens when you get people that want to be correct instead of just be perceived as correct.

@LevakekkuLI

2 жыл бұрын

There is something terribly wrong with scientists. It's like they want to be wrong!

@heiarhognigunason1206

2 жыл бұрын

Respectful disagreement works wonders in science, too bad "social" science don´t work the same way.

@marisdussartre600

2 жыл бұрын

@@heiarhognigunason1206 Social science works the same way

i love that the professor only was challenging this point because he thaught "you made a mistake here which you dont often do and i dont want you to accidently spread misinformation since you usually are a very trustworthy source"

This reminds me of science history where scientists would publicly debate their ideas. Both parties made convincing arguments and from the start i knew the two of you guys were educated and strong-willed; regardless of who was wrong, both of you guys look like better men for it. Would love to see videos with a similar styled format! The appeal for me however is seeing two smart people discuss small possible problems, not crazy stuff. Had to rewatch a few times to follow the math a bit better, and thats what Im here for. Stuff like this makes me want to learn and dive headfirst into equations I normally wouldnt pay a second thought to

@user-ps2tl3tg7f

4 ай бұрын

The professor got conned by a f-n trick ?

@koka3243

2 ай бұрын

Great point. We need more public debates like this

"You have a much lower error rate than most people on KZread." That is low-key the best endorsement from a physics professor I've ever heard.

@jonathanjomen

2 жыл бұрын

... in context, it sounded like a thinly veiled insult to me ;)

@FlyNAA

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanjomen This. But I could buy that it was not intended as such, and was intended as an honest compliment; which all holds together if the smug cockiness is embedded in his base personality.

@jonathanjomen

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlyNAA ... which it probably is ... He intended it to be a compliment - it just didn't sound like one to me.

@hellospam879879

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanjomen Yeah, the professor was intimating that his own error rate was lower that his opponents. I guess error 'rate' is not determinate though.

@mikebrase5161

2 жыл бұрын

It's called a backhanded compliment. They are very common in my blue collar line of work.

Being wrong is painful, accepting that you’re wrong takes courage. Bet or no bet, I admire the professor and veritasium

@americankid7782

2 жыл бұрын

It hurts even more when you present such a thought out argument and 10k

@sh3n3ng

2 жыл бұрын

@@americankid7782 ain’t that the truth!

@rhinotastic

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, go back 100 years and the great debates and clashes around different quantum behaviours.

@BigSmartArmed

2 жыл бұрын

Where was that acceptance? I didn't see any.

@AvNotasian

2 жыл бұрын

Read the supplied slides from him, he made it an all or nothing bet so it took just one error for him to lose the bet.

Awesome understanding and explanation. The best part of this explanation is that it is mathematically and physically robust because of those equations of power. This is why Veritasium is my favorite KZread channel, a consistency of good quality content that can be seen in every video. And with this, this video has become my favorite video on my favorite KZread channel. Well done!⛵⛵

I really appreciate the graciousness of both parties. As stated at the end, 'Disagreements don't have to be a problem (source of friction between sides) but an opportunity for everyone to learn.' If only the politicians could apply that principle, how much better the planet would be.

@dh891

2 ай бұрын

American politicians because they are mostly trained arguers (lawyers). Japan politicians for instance are mostly trained engineers and look how well they solve problems in Japan.

I learned that if a UCLA professor says I’m wrong, then I should hire a MIT professor to prove him wrong

@brodypaine

2 жыл бұрын

I used the professor to the professor

@ktldon

2 жыл бұрын

@@brodypaine i use professor to beat professor

@TheAllMightyGodofCod

2 жыл бұрын

What if they end up agreeing? Who will you get?

@2adamast

2 жыл бұрын

I learned that a perpetuum mobile randomly trumps any level of professor.

@skillissue445

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAllMightyGodofCod I’ll get an idiot to agree with me

"So I called Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye" hot DAMN that's a flex and a half

@arctic_line

2 жыл бұрын

Only topped by the fact that apparently they both watch him

@dsweet5273

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcstench8913 I don’t think you are understanding what “a flex” is then.

@Darxide23

2 жыл бұрын

What? You don't have both of their numbers in your phone? I thought everyone did.

@prasannadahal5512

2 жыл бұрын

Bill Nye is not even a scientist 🤡

@razeezar

2 жыл бұрын

@@prasannadahal5512 He is an engineer who a few years ago infamously, unashamedly spruiked for Monsanto.

Professor Kusenko is a good scientist. You do good science doing mistakes, acknowledging them, fixing the mistakes and nailing it afterwards. That's the beautty of it!

@dibdab7990

Ай бұрын

Kusensko's a terrible scientist, he never admitted he was wrong, he only conceded the bet by blaming it on a technicality. "He conceded on a technicality - that the vehicle moves marginally faster than the wind temporarily" "I offered him another $10,000 bet, because his technicality is entirely wrong, but I know I won't be hearing from him."

Wonderful point at the end! Last year I wrote software for NASA that did my job for them. I then retired happy. In my last two weeks, coworkers realized that they didn’t know enough about the physics behind my software. I was thrilled and commented, “I’m happy to be challenged!” I wanted them to USE my software confidently. I laid out the ENTIRE set of equations leading from start to finish. Everyone including me was satisfied. If there was a mistake (there wasn’t) I WANTED to know. Peer review is highly important.

@bobbythomas6520

2 ай бұрын

If you don’t mind me asking how much did nasa pay you? Above or below 5?

@JSCRocketScientist

2 ай бұрын

@@bobbythomas6520 80k to do math & physics all day. Keep in mind I have a 25-year hole in my resumé raising 6 children. My daughter working on the ISS with no hole in her resumé but about the same 14 years experience makes a lot more. Being good at solving equations and good at math & physics pays off. 4 of our 6 children are engineers. The other two are therapists. They say engineers are crazy. They’re not wrong. We love our work.

"Disagreement in science are not problems, but they are opportunities for everyone to learn something" - Derek Muller......Nice one👌👌

@electronresonator8882

2 жыл бұрын

but that's not what happened in reality, it's always more than just disagreement, ....ridicule, group bully, and personal insults are just some of other thing that got involved

@SK36967

2 жыл бұрын

@@electronresonator8882 It's view on science, don't relate it on past thing's 🤷...

@ujjwal2473

2 жыл бұрын

"WHatever i said is immutable" --- A stupid politician

@HamatamnaHamatamna

2 жыл бұрын

I was like. Derek Muller... Damn dat name seems so fammiliar... I know it from somewhere... Oh...

@paullutz3581

2 жыл бұрын

Goosebumps

Are we not gonna talk about how he can just summon Neil degrasse Tyson and Bill Nye at his will

@malachiellis1226

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxstephen2324 I’m saying

@joshuamurphy4304

2 жыл бұрын

Neil came to osan airbase when I was stationed in Korea it was pretty cool

@truegame142

2 жыл бұрын

those 2 arent that hard to summon

@Sir_Osis

2 жыл бұрын

Nerd Whisperer. Lol it’s a joke. Don’t @ me

@Sir_Osis

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pixel-bu4on It is. I’ve been expecting you.

Being wrong is the best thing to happen, providing the opportunity to learn what one didn’t know before. Being respectful and humble about being wrong is championship caliber!

I love seeing people come together on things like this! Need more of this these days. ❤

Derek - "If I'm wrong, I wanna know." Flat earthers - "Imma pretend I didn't see that."

@revimfadli4666

2 жыл бұрын

Also those who treat burden of proof as a law rather than rule of thumb

@Nick-mf1ol

2 жыл бұрын

(flat)

@Liftium

2 жыл бұрын

Fault*

@NeonCodes

2 жыл бұрын

@@Liftium Flat*

@mVpkilla93

2 жыл бұрын

Derek Chauvin - "I ain't mean to kill George Floyd he was actually Harambe, in the flesh"

“When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.” Arthur C Clark

@lezhu6856

2 жыл бұрын

"The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible." Clarke's second law

@theppotato1667

2 жыл бұрын

@@maskettaman1488 the professor took his extensive knowledge on the matter and looked for issues in his video, this made him believe that this was misguided when it really was using a more abstract way of thinking that he had not thought of to that extent.

@SoundsSilver

2 жыл бұрын

@@maskettaman1488 The old Russian dude said something was impossible and was wrong. It’s relevant.

@Odima16

2 жыл бұрын

I think it has a lot to do with this video

@agitatorjr

2 жыл бұрын

In other words, "Ok, boomer."

Wow interesting~ Good for the professor having a level-headed conversation about this topic.

I am amazed by the quality of the scientific reasoning and open-minded approach in all those videos !!! It is far beyond my limited math/physics abilities but I love it !!! So great work Derek !!!

Fair play to the professor. Not easy to admit he was wrong publicly. Man of honour

@ArquibIsmail93

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, people like him need to be celebrated, it is okay to concede for science.

@henningerhenningstone691

2 жыл бұрын

The sign of a true scientist

@skinnymon123

2 жыл бұрын

I mean scientists are used to it. Theres always new evidence

@benjamint.minkler221

2 жыл бұрын

but did he actually do that....or just secretly pay the fine and slink away without going on record(in a video reply) to announce he was wrong - I'd like to see the final response from Nye and especially Tyson too

@liesdamnlies3372

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjamint.minkler221 No need to flog someone over it. Conceding is enough; humans are still human and it always feels bad to be wrong. Scientists are special in that they’re good at swallowing that shitty feeling because they know it holds them and the rest of humanity back.

When the two Smart Kids get different answers: But they're not kids anymore.

@Thegreatbloop

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@PAFBEAST

2 жыл бұрын

so what they r?🙄

@Lennybird91

2 жыл бұрын

"Props" to this prof for honor and respect. Quite a stark contrast to a similar dispute between a professor and electroboom.

@hgdge

2 жыл бұрын

they always were outnumbered by morons though :(

@ioqajeeaspirant8860

2 жыл бұрын

reminds me of death note

Derek's misleading when he says Professor Kusenko “changed his mind in light of the evidence.” Professor Kusenko never changed his mind and still believes the Blackbird doesn’t work. He only conceded the bet on a technicality, still insisting it was just the wind pushing it along. From Rick Cavallero: "He conceded on a technicality - that the vehicle moves marginally faster than the wind temporarily." "I offered him another $10,000 bet because his technicality is entirely wrong, but I know I won't be hearing from him." So Professor Kusenko is not a rockstar or some scientific legend. Personally, I think he was just an egotistical professor who thought he could publicly school Rick Cavellero and some dumb KZreadr, only to end up getting schooled himself. And his ego was too bruised for him to ever even consider admitting he was be wrong. Hardly very scientific of him now...

Absolutely astonishing! Professor Kusenko - you have my deepest respect, thank you for questioning this and helping to create a better explanation.

Honestly that professor is a very respectable person. He made good arguments, and actually payed the money in the end,

@WertzOne

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, just got spoiled

@hico816

2 жыл бұрын

yes. he believed in himself and bet 10.000$ and that's something

@jd1800

2 жыл бұрын

Paid*

@mizomint4197

2 жыл бұрын

@@jd1800 Peighd*

@recurrenTopology

2 жыл бұрын

The confusion of the physics professor is very odd to me, it is an interesting effect but the dynamics are not particularly complex, it's just somewhat counter-intuitive. My guess is that this was something of a publicity stunt on his part, a chance to play devil's advocate in a public forum, not an honest disagreement on how the device functions.

That Professor was so bad a$$. He really argued his points well. And was skeptic enough to question the topic. In the end we all learned something because of him. So cheers to you!

@DyslexicMitochondria

2 жыл бұрын

Science was the winner in this argument

@mattearenzi8972

2 жыл бұрын

@@DyslexicMitochondria Hey bro i watch ur videoss. Love ur channel

@jk-gb4et

2 жыл бұрын

$$

@Mike_Dubayou

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and me, just some dumb guy here watches the first video on this, and i'm like "yeah of course", then i watch the professors rebuttal, and i'm like "yeah of course", then the video finishes and derek puts the issue to rest, and im like "yeah of course" so pretty much i get it

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

And I must say his points had a good foundation. Stuff like gusts of wind, different wind speed at different elevation over the ground, etc. I don't even think he is wrong with those arguments. Which are basically about external influences on the experiment. That is the reason experiments have to be repeated to assure that the result is not just based on those external factors.

Another of your videos that made my day. Thank you and keep it up! ❤

I know this video is a couple of years old and i just watched it again. It's very well done and informative, but this time i caught the ad for Brilliant and the gear ratio question. I love it because that's an old brain teaser that we got as engineering students and even machinist's training. Very easy, the output speed is equal to the ratio of the input gear and the output gear, . regardless of the size of intermediate gears. There are no co-axial gear sets, only independent idlers, therefore one tooth is one tooth consistently through the train. The answer is 30/60, or 1:2. Output is 5 RPS.

Taking up a bet, changing his mind, and being honorable about it? Professor Kusenko is giving me way too much hope for humanity

@ThisNoName

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, this is an old topic with tons of papers about it, more like the popular tubers bribed the professor for another hit.

@moenibus

2 жыл бұрын

He is not a flat earther. That is all. A decent human being

@jakobm.4183

2 жыл бұрын

That's why science has brought us where we are today because the ultimate goal is not beeing right, but finding out what's right.

@ThisNoName

2 жыл бұрын

@@moenibus Nobody is flat earther. We knew radius of the Earth since the Romans. It's a made up concept to divide and conquer America. If you don't fall for that, well ... rich vs poor, white vs black, man vs woman, gay vs straight ... something, somewhere, we will destroy America, one cr@p at a time.

@oldemirojuliasse1304

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr XDD

"Disagreements are not problems. They are opportunities for everyone."

@Pastor_RogerSherwood

2 жыл бұрын

Except when it comes to today’s politics and religion

@exudeku

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pastor_RogerSherwood or people with no common sense

@enraged1584

2 жыл бұрын

@@exudeku wdym "or", theyre the same thing

@Flash80085

2 жыл бұрын

@@exudeku true

@mrsprite399

2 жыл бұрын

@@exudeku Common sense is not really Common in some people

Flippin' spectacular effort! Love it!

Greetings from Germany!! Those kinds of appreciated KZread clips improved my scientific knowledge and English language by a lot. Thank you very much!!❤

A solid example of how constructive criticism can actually help improve everyone’s work.

@WalterLiddy

2 жыл бұрын

Not just that, but why it is absolutely a crucial part of the scientific process.

@natalieisagirlnow

2 жыл бұрын

the prof hasn't improved. now he's just angry

@erich7662

2 жыл бұрын

That's ACTUAL science --- scientists super open to all challenges in order to maximize it! (Unlike this "pandemic")

@nobnobnobnob

2 жыл бұрын

But I don't have 10K to bet If I'm wrong or not

@offspringfan89

2 жыл бұрын

That's how science works.

I would like to shake that mans hand. To admit to being wrong is hard. Learning from it is harder. My sincerest respect to this man, a true follower of the scientific method.

@danielmorton9956

2 жыл бұрын

You probably could if in the area. Scientists and professors are usually approachable especially to those with genuine interest. When they do get media exposure it tends to be overwhelming, but day to day they will often just talk due to their passion (outside of celebrities).

@FelonyVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, very impressive. That is probably the biggest findung here, that there is at least one scientist left with integrity.

@la7dfa

2 жыл бұрын

The Florida man would call it fake news, but fortunately he does not dabble into complex stuff.

@davidioanhedges

2 жыл бұрын

Derek: willing to be wrong, even when he is sure he is right Prof : Willing to bet he's right against popular and proven Both : Learning from it ...

@AtlantideVFX

2 жыл бұрын

@@FelonyVideos What are you insinuating here? That most scientists are not honest? That's really a disingenuous and gratuitous comment to do, especially since I suppose you don't have much contact with the scientific process and research.

Respect to both of you. This is the way to take science to the next level.

This is exactly how science should be. A great example, and a great experiment.

The board and wheel demonstration was a stroke of genius. The added complexity of aerodynamics was keeping me from developing an intuitive grasp on the car, and my aha moment happened as soon as I saw that demonstration. Well done. You really are the best at this.

@jonb1798

2 жыл бұрын

That experiment broke my brain. I get why it works, but think if I did that at a 6th grade science fair I'd have been burned at the stake for being a witch.

@thomascicutto9216

2 жыл бұрын

That was beautiful

@AndrewFrink

2 жыл бұрын

there is a similar one about pulling a cord tied to a bike pedal from behind the bike and which way the bike in moving.

@lucbloom

2 жыл бұрын

This ^

@toddshaffer6606

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, that was the demo that made it click for me!

I love how Derek can just casually bring Neil and Bill and have them not be the main point of the video

@morpheus587

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the couple of paid actors...

@barrettbrown8817

2 жыл бұрын

science dads

@Maninawig

2 жыл бұрын

I love how he can just randomly call them up and ask for a favour. How many people can do that?

@gerdsteinwender7758

2 жыл бұрын

@@morpheus587 Bill Nye is never an Actor, while he may be payed for the appearance

@morpheus587

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerdsteinwender7758 keep telling yourself that 😜

For simpler terms, the wind behind the propeller is just like a wall and the fan is a hand pushing against the wall.

@gyengez

6 ай бұрын

not quite as in your case the car wouldn't move away from the wall

this video shows how hard it can be to explain people without a scientific background (likely a good percentage of the viewers) how scientists work and discuss issues professionally, but it ALSO shows it is possible to do so. thank you. all of you.

@IstasPumaNevada

7 ай бұрын

It's also an excellent demonstration that no matter how much you think you know about something, you should always be willing to entertain the possibility that you are wrong.

Is no one gonna talk about how he's casually like, "Here let me call up my boys Neil Tyson and Bill Nye to witness this bet"

@s4nder86

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, no-one is.

@Raven319s

2 жыл бұрын

totally. I wonder if he does that when he has an argument with his wife. "Honey, I'm sorry but your are wrong. Watch, let me ask Bill Nye right quick!"

@billcrane2444

2 жыл бұрын

Notice that some comments have more thumbs up than there are total views of the video??

@rishabh12singhal

2 жыл бұрын

When you or me have a problem interesting enough to be a challange to scientists, who can work complex mathematics in their mind like a normal guy can calculate 28 + 22 i can bet Dr. Tyson will respond to your request just as readily.

@AtlasGaming4k

2 жыл бұрын

Bill Nye - the not a scientist guy - is a tv shill... his opinion is worthless... and you saw that here when he quickly changed his tune in the letter. Neil at least has a formal education even though he spends more time as a tv prop these days.

Respect to the professor. Willing to challenge a belief then concede the point when the evidence was compelling. This is pure science at its heart.

@Reverend_Salem

4 ай бұрын

especially since some of his concerns/challenges are actually valid concerns that should be tested for, with a "fail condition" (i.e. how the hypothesis can be disproven) the wind gradient for example, is a really good challange, because there is a diffrence in wind speed as you go higher, and a tall land based wind powered vehicle could make use of that to travel faster than the ground wind, even if the operator doesn't realise it. to disprove the hypothesis that the wind gradient is causing the vehicle to appear to go faster than the wind, you just need to show that the vehicle is going faster than the wind at the highest point on the vehicle. (or test in an enviroment where the wind gradient is minimal, like in a hanger with a fan model and a treadmill, probably with a treadmill set with a variable speed control to simulate the vehicle moving across the ground. that way twind speed, and the vehicle speed.) the gust hypothesis (a high gust of wind pushes you faster than the "normal" speed, which may look like you are traveling faster than the wind. The treadmill set up would also be a great way to disprove this hypothosis.

@user-vt4up5ij9d

4 ай бұрын

@@Reverend_SalemThe treadmill test is flawed though. By holding the car on the treadmill, the force the person imparted was greater in the beginning as it not only kept the car at a constant speed but also used the resistance of the wheels to build up the speed of the fan to the point where the gust from the propeller exceeded the resistance of motor powering the propeller at the treadmill’s speed. As the fan got faster and faster, she had to use less force to keep the car still, and eventually had to use slightly more force in the opposite direction to keep it still . She was essentially charging the propeller like a battery. This would be like if there was a 30mph wind gust, but the resistance of the gears is increased such that cart can only reach 15mph and the rest of that energy is used to power the propeller. Then the wind gust drops to 15. You reduce the resistance of the gears so that all of the wind gust goes to pushing the cart forward, but the propellers still have inertia so they push forward with the energy built up under the 30mph wind gust. The cart will lurch forward faster than the 15mph wind gust, just as it did on the treadmill.

@Reverend_Salem

4 ай бұрын

@user-vt4up5ij9d i ment a tredmill test where the fan pushes the cart forward, and the treadmill is calibrated to keep the cart relitivly centered. (i.e. the treadmill is reacting to the cart.) basically, like chasing the cart with a fan. the fan is actually the thing doing the pushing, the treadmill is mostly to make it so you dont have to run around a large area with a fan.

@shobhapathak3638

2 ай бұрын

what a professor he is . without analysing through and through he came to bet .

@wayneerichsen

2 ай бұрын

​@@user-vt4up5ij9d brilliant comment. 👏

dude awesome achievement in your physics and youtuber carreer, respect. That’s a like and subscribe right there🎉

I love this channel. And i love the fact it has millions of views and subscribers, it gives me a little hope and evidence that people are not only interested in stupid sh*tty internet content. This is high quality well thought content, and i just love it.

Big respect to Professor Kusenko! Didn't just believe what he was told.

@StaK_1980

2 жыл бұрын

More respect that he actually honoured the bet!

@reynal_omnicide9217

2 жыл бұрын

@@StaK_1980 As if he had a choice. I can't imagine how he feels about this, R.I.P. Professor Kusenko

@logansizemore4735

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is important to also acknowledge that being a skeptic isn't only about not believing what you are told. It also requires one to offer a counter explanation for a phenomenon and conceding when the evidence does not support your model.

@andrewjenkinson7052

2 жыл бұрын

So...if the wheels are turning the fan, once it is moving do you still need the wind?

@lowkey_Ioki

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewjenkinson7052 Yes, think about this from the perspective of the treadmill where the "wind" is just still air, and the ground is moving instead. From this perspective, "removing the wind" is equivalent to placing a fan that blows against the front of the car. This means the car will stop because it is not being pushed and the propellor is ineffective due to wind direction.

everybody gangsta until a physics professor takes you up on a bet

@G.F.SF55

2 жыл бұрын

Lol true

@saviodias3803

2 жыл бұрын

He was incorrect though. *Spoiler alert*

@alice_in_wonderland42

2 жыл бұрын

@@saviodias3803 n he accepted it unlike Twitter keyboard warriors

@m.a3117

2 жыл бұрын

This comment use to say "prof professor" but @dgnt edited it. What a stupid mistake

@saviodias3803

2 жыл бұрын

@@alice_in_wonderland42 Exactly. Legend. Man of science.

The answer is in an analysis of the function of the propeller acting as an airfoil. The propeller blades are rotating and therefore at an angle to the apparent wind. As such they can generate forces to propel them at speeds that exceed the speed of the wind. This is how ice boats can achieve speeds five times the speed of the wind.

@fatguyonthc

Ай бұрын

The prop is driving the wheels. Big gear drives little gears faster than the rpm of the big gear.

What you and kusenko are doing for science is very commendable!

It's difficult to admit when you're wrong. I give mad props to professor.

@AxxLAfriku

2 жыл бұрын

I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest KZreadr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear jo

@mrknife666

2 жыл бұрын

That's why he's a professor most likely!

@drew5637

2 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku wtf?

@BradCowgill

2 жыл бұрын

Mad props? Is that pun intended?

@stiiigert

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine how much Bill Nye regrets that email though. He made the very same mistake that he explained in the email, again!

"What i love about science is that disagreements are not problems, they are opportunities to learn something new." That is a very good message, a great mindset to have.

@sondreambakk2388

2 жыл бұрын

Love this comment, if everyone could have the same mindsett about everything we’ll be flying cars to mars at this time (srry, bad english I’m from Norway)

@LightBender777

2 жыл бұрын

You don't know much about the scientific community they attack and harass anyone who has a differing view from the herd. Even when the person has loads of evidence to support their claim they shun them and try to discredit them without any evidence to back their own claims. They are afraid of change and stuck in a dogmatic view on many fronts.

@charliejulietdavies8715

2 жыл бұрын

@@LightBender777 you're right, but that's more an issue with scientists, not science

@nooneanybodyknows1321

2 жыл бұрын

@@LightBender777 It isn't only scientists; it's human beings in general.

@blargminton

2 жыл бұрын

i'd like to see verita talk with nye about basic human biology such as how a man is a man and a woman is a woman and you cant swap between them then watch as a disagreement suddenly turns into a problem

I've been caught up in the news of identity politics, inflation, immigration, war, exploitation...and needed this 😂. Smart people, disagreeing with respect, searching for evidence and facts then changing their minds with grace, in respect of the truth! If only we could spread this to other human fields! Thanks to all involved.

Respect! Such constructive debates should be the norm in our engineering community. Both the Gentleman- You both are a class act. 🙌Loved every bit of this video 🎥

“settling a physics debate” *creates another physics debate*

@jubb1984

2 жыл бұрын

Science at its best!

@bakedbeings

2 жыл бұрын

Answers are parents to questions :)

@shukrantpatil

2 жыл бұрын

More is to come . Stay tuned 😆

@papalegba6759

2 жыл бұрын

there's no debate that this is a hoax.

@papalegba6759

2 жыл бұрын

@@timothinev9444 a free body diagram proves it. corrupt profs & chatbots can't draw them.

Now THIS is a very good example of a scholar who is really dedicated to learning, not oneself’s pride. I honestly think UCLA is blessed to have such an awesome professor!

@papalegba6759

2 жыл бұрын

ucla has a prof that believes in perpetual motion devices lmao.

@Android480

2 жыл бұрын

He also did utterly fail to do any research. The science was established beyond a reasonable doubt.

@alexkram

2 жыл бұрын

The professor is going to be publicly known as a fool after this. He's going to be hearing jokes about this from students for the rest of his career. Even his wife will be pissed at him for losing $10k. I had a professor in engineering school that said it is impossible for an electric motor with a propeller on it's shaft to be able to lift it's own weight. I wonder if he ever sees these drones flying around and has reconsidered his position.

@howardlam6181

2 жыл бұрын

​@@alexkram No. The professor was correct that the explanation was faulty in that there was a singularity issue. This prompted him to rethink a model which led to him believing that it wouldn't be theoractically possible. Turns out that if you use a nonlinear model for force and momentum, you get a perfectly convergent model for the power transfer.

@ishworshrestha3559

2 жыл бұрын

Ok

Incredible video! Incredible Work! We need more scientific, technical, and educational material. Interesting Physics and Mechanical Engineering with all of these Immensely Knowledgeable & Brilliant Minds.

very interesting experiment, thanks! From what I saw in the first video, I realized that each pinwheel represents the sail of a ship. And as has been shown, a sailing ship moves at an angle faster than straight ahead of the wind, and if it goes to the right for a while, then to the left, the ship will go faster than the wind. The spinner on the car is a sail that pulls to the left on half a turn and to the right on the other half turn, from here and at full turn it reaches beyond the wind, so it travels faster than the wind. It's like riding a bicycle, we push the pedal right and left, and as a result we accelerate forward, only here the angular force of the sail is used, when right, when left, for each complete rotation, and the car goes faster than the force that pushes the pedals.

14:25 Now THAT is a perfect demonstration. You've replaced the "wind" with a rigid object and the relative speeds of the various components can be observed quite directly. For me it really helps put everything into perspective. Bravo.

@Quiczor

2 жыл бұрын

I'm still working my head around the forces involved there. So you apply a forward motion to the object, and that makes the wheel spin backwards propel it forwards at a higher speed than the force being applied. Saying it out loud does make it work a little better in my mind, it's just the top wheel rotating backwards that feels strange, since how is it applying the forward motion when the wheel is moving backwards. Friction working oddly?

@alexmangorove

2 жыл бұрын

And thoughtfully put at the end of the video after all the complex explanations like the last nail in the coffin

@WarrenEnstrom

2 жыл бұрын

@@Quiczor the top wheel is "rolling along" the board -- as in, it is using the force from the small wheels to traverse the board, as if the board were the ground on which it is moving. While the board instigates motion in the system, what scales the speed is the gear ratio between the large and smaller wheels. This gear ratio is what enables the large wheel to sprint along the board, rather than *only* reacting to the force the board is applying to it.

@nikitakovalov709

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@kingkarlito

2 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenEnstrom understanding that gears are levers which give a mechanical advantage proportional to the gear ratio is the key to understanding what is going on here.

This is one of the greatest science videos ever made, because it's showing actual SCIENCE. Disagreement is at the HEART of science, and this video shows how we go about resolving those disagreements. I love this so much.

@AndrejSlegl89

2 жыл бұрын

We would need this kind of science for researching Coronavirus, and not this political mayhem.

@thulyblu5486

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it also shows that scientists are never authorities on truth, nobody is - the argument from authority is still a fallacy. Everybody can be wrong. It's morally wrong to censor "misinformation" based on personal opinions of scientists. This will not only corrupt scientists because power corrupts, but it destroys the only viable way to get to truth: Discussion among honest actors. KZread's anti-misinformation guidelines are very misguided and dangerous.

@oammaslastnamethei3063

2 жыл бұрын

@@thulyblu5486 yes and no, there are some things we know for certain. How Neil Tyson said "we know the earth rotates around the sun, no one is going to change that. Now that we know it we can make more refined questions, lije what kind of orbit is that?". There is neither an universal truth or "universal lie", yes most things are debatable but not everyone has the authority and should have the power to do so, flat earthers do only damage and keep on beating a dead mule, sorta speak. Not saying you are or that im angry at you or something, and sorry if im rant-y, have a good day!

@dyadica7151

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It starts with disagreement about what we see or understand, goes on to hypothesis, construction of experiments to test, and then refinement of understanding to explain it. it's a process, not any one result.

@andyh6849

2 жыл бұрын

@@oammaslastnamethei3063 wrong... the point you miss is that sure, tyson is certainly right about the earth... but the point is that if joe bloggs the bartender with no scientific experience came along and refuted the claim with evidence to prove it wrong, tyson would happily concede and the science books would be happily rewritten... I.e tysons perceived authority in science doesn't mean jack .. only his ability to back up his claims.. The idea you think that not everyone has the authority to debate a scientific principle goes against the exact thing that drives progress in science.... EVERYONE can and should debate all scientific principles if they can back their claims up... no matter their percieved authority

Great vid and you present your ideas well and intelligently. Also, props for including Xyla, that woman doesn't know how to fail! She will beat a problem into submission with brains and determination.

The thing is is that people have to be willing to change their ideas in light of what is true and its so cool to see scientists doing this instead of closing their minds on these topics. Well done to the professor

Props to the professor for being a man of Honor. It's not easy to be wrong, especially not in the academic circles

@cezarcatalin1406

2 жыл бұрын

I would be happy to be proven either correct or wrong, it really puts an end to a never ending knowledge struggle.

@williamhasty3964

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe this will serve as a lesson to college students to not blindly believe everything their professors tell them

@callistoarmy5576

2 жыл бұрын

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@Jimbotheone

2 жыл бұрын

Nice pun

@unlokia

2 жыл бұрын

Hard cheese - they're only human, and we humans ARE fallible; that's the whole thing about learning - YOU LEARN things you didn't know before. Anyone too arrogant to be open to change of mind, is a fool.

This was intense enough to be made into a Netflix original dramatic series.

@HenrikBgelundLavstsen

2 жыл бұрын

it was better than that crap on netflix

@proloycodes

2 жыл бұрын

@Naughty Spicy Editz i saw the whole video and.... spoiler alert veritasium won

@philsurtees

2 жыл бұрын

@Naughty Spicy Editz I'll take that bet. Send me your email address so that I can give you my bank account details. Or would you prefer to pay in cash?

@The_Conqueeftador

2 жыл бұрын

Don't include Bill Nye. The dude was clearly out of his element.

@nothanks4317

2 жыл бұрын

Netflix would made it overdramatic, but your point stands

i actually thought at first maybe its like a very frictionless sail where a sidewind is redirected backwards and is its at a step angle below 45° which would be a 1:1 ratio it might work like that but after explaination i was baffeled that it works directly backwards against the wind... But it really got me when you made the rolling-example with the woodplank. that really does now make sense how it can work if friction is low enough.

The explanation with the little kart using wheels of different sizes was perfect, thankss

this man just casually had bill nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson join him in zoom so they can bet 10000 over a windmill car

@hector338

2 жыл бұрын

Bro Mark Drela is an Aero wizard as well

@ps.2

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea to bring in @Xyla Foxlin and Dr. Tyson so it wouldn't look like _only_ a bunch of white dudes who have $10000 to blow on a wager. Better to ensure the privilege being thrown around isn't exclusively white and male.

@joseramirez-hh2sw

2 жыл бұрын

Just everyday Derek Muller

@RockBand2Freak78

2 жыл бұрын

What a flex

@Drakkose

2 жыл бұрын

@@ps.2 -_- How are you a viewer of this channel while being that dumb...

"What the hell do you mean you lost $10,000 on a bet over a youtube video?" - Professor's Wife

@daphenomenalz4100

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@metalmastersc

2 жыл бұрын

Ad in the paper: Physics professor seeks room for rent.

@DMSProduktions

2 жыл бұрын

DURAK!

@raputha1148

2 жыл бұрын

"i want the divorce" - professor's wife, i suppose

@DMSProduktions

2 жыл бұрын

@@raputha1148 LOL!

Bravo for the professor for his integrity. It only makes him greater.

@Rick_Cavallaro

8 ай бұрын

You mean for refusing to admit he actually got it wrong, when he very definitely actually got it wrong?

That board thing was weird to see, really weird! Respect to the professor who was bold enough to take the bet.

"Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." - Issac newton

@DullBull

2 жыл бұрын

_Howard W._ Newton

@juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the guy who had no friends?

@Dan_Kanerva

2 жыл бұрын

@@juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454 you are the type of person Newton was talking about, Pedro

@S0ulinth3machin3

2 жыл бұрын

that's a great quote, but Newton didn't exactly practice those words, ie. Robert Hooke (who was not exactly the epitome of diplomacy himself)

@juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan_Kanerva Congrats, now we are two, ironic right? LOL. At least I was making a joke about the ERB video where Bill Nye calls Newton a guy with no friends. Besides who Was I being mean to? Newton? I don't think he will mind a little joke.

Dude, you phoned up Neil Degrass Tyson, Bill Nye, and Sean Carroll to witness a $10,000 bet against a UCLA professor. What a freakin' life you live lol. Thanks for the knowledge, my friend!

@Segphalt

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot "and won the bet"

@obinator9065

2 жыл бұрын

Gigachad

@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

2 жыл бұрын

Derek can just go "I know a guy..."

@cavinrauch

2 жыл бұрын

Better was that they all say his videos in general are accurate as well

@vasiovasio

2 жыл бұрын

Well everyone has a cirof friends... the most of us can call Derek the Weirdo, Deina the soccer mom from the Hood and the little Sku who actually ask for money to participate!

Just rewatched this video, and remembered that this waa the video that introduced me to Xyla, Awesome!

The little wheel thing is what solved it for me. I understood the explanation but seeing it in visible terms made a difference.

When people of science disagree, the world learns something new.

@360.Tapestry

2 жыл бұрын

the great debate in astronomy is probably one of the most mind-blowing

@savageraccoon787

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, disagreement in science usually has people learning new things.

@paulgibby6932

2 жыл бұрын

You mean people, not men. Wake up dude!

@CristiNeagu

2 жыл бұрын

What happens when those disagreements are shut down and censored?

@shaileshrana7165

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulgibby6932 I'm sorry. Didn't mean it like that

I salute the professor, without his courage and a open mind, everyone will be still in doubt.......

@TheElijman

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts, also 10k is a bit too much, this bet should be over a dollar so next person won't be afraid to bet.

@kimyapeyvan654

2 жыл бұрын

This guy was my professor for an intro physics course and he was amazing

@SECONDQUEST

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheElijman Well, if you're ever in a position to bet Derrik then you can tell him that. Although if you were in such a position I would assume you would actually have $10,000 since you would be a physicist.

@michaelsmith935

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Hats off to the Professor!

@gonzalezm244

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimyapeyvan654 I know! I love Professor Kusenko. Took him for Physics 1A

Congratulations 🎉 😊 Opportunity to learn! Now that's Brilliant ❤

Amazing dedication! Thank you so cool

I love Professor Kusenko for his honor, he commends such respect

@Todestuete

2 жыл бұрын

Though it's not really that honorful, it's just how scientists do things. If he wouldn't concede it in the light of overwhelming evidence, he'd actually lose respect from his colleagues.

@ryanread8617

2 жыл бұрын

@@Todestuete There are thousands of scientists rather lose a bit of respect from their colleagues than give up any amount of money. While like many others cases it can continue, with the Professor making new claims, continuing it. Though he didn't, that what makes him honorable, he a rare individual who goes with any claims they make.

@byoshizaki1025

2 жыл бұрын

Derek I implore you to make a video attempting to find flaws in the validations below; this would be the singly most important video you could possibly make and would be noted in the history books. Visit Brilliant Light Power's site for the validation reports. I'm sure that Dr. Mills would be willing to accommodate you.

@littlejackalo5326

2 жыл бұрын

@@byoshizaki1025 why are you writing a message to Derek in this thread? He's not in this thread.

@AdrianOkay

2 жыл бұрын

Actually he did not conceed, he just gave up implying that veritasium was tricking him with technicalities

Takes a big man to swallow his pride and admit defeat. Huge respect to the professor.

@Stiffler1109

Жыл бұрын

Good point. I don't know if I've ever bet someone money about something I was 100% confident I was right. I'm sure they're well compensated in their professions, but $10K is still very different than betting $10. I don't think too many people, regardless of financial standing, would agree to such a large bet if they believed there was a fair chance they'd lose. Maybe the professor understood that (including as Derek said...a public bet to boot) and was fine with it, but I'd bet (let's stick with $10K ;) ) he was confident he'd win. So right...says a lot about one's character by paying up a solid chunk o' cash like that. Good character these days, is especially valuable. I believe we're more influenced than we might expect by others higher or lower nature even if only indirect or casual contact. Faith in humanity is underrated, but entirely within our power to improve.

@191246mann1

Жыл бұрын

unless it was done for money from youtube this guy is a full time youtuber ,,,there are lots of videos on here going back 12 years if this professor did any research at all he would have been stupid the take the bet .....me ....I think it was all done to make money and there was no money sent to him or he would have shown the transfer,

@HeikkiJuvonen

Жыл бұрын

It's sad if correcting your viewpoint in the light of new evidence requires you to be a big man.

@191246mann1

Жыл бұрын

@@HeikkiJuvonen I don't think it was new evidence as there are videos and news reports on here 12 years old and you don't have to look far to find then ,,,,,just type 'faster than the wind ' and they are all there ...surely he has the brains to do that.

@andrewnorris5415

Жыл бұрын

If all scientists placed a bet. Science would be a LOT better. Scientists would be far more careful of what they claim to be certain. No politics would come into it. Think about that. (But we must make sure no crowd funders pay their bet for them!)

I loved the explanation with the plank and the little roller car ❤

Brilliant from all involved. Kudos.

"Because I wanna know" is the biggest reason why we humans have come this far. Thank you.

@whoooshmeifyougay4482

2 жыл бұрын

Religious people hate this kind of think

@stephenmason5682

2 жыл бұрын

Just keep Politicians well away?

@mohammedyasin2087

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoooshmeifyougay4482 Funny because Richard Dawkins calls "why" questions silly.

@Joshua-qv1ho

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoooshmeifyougay4482 you got a story to tell us buddy?

@giovannipelissero1886

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedyasin2087 not really, only disconnected "why" 's are silly

Major props to the professor. It's incredible difficult to admit your wrong in your area of expertise. Congrats to him

@timq6224

2 жыл бұрын

sad that his conclusion was formed by learning an incomplete "shortcut" equation regarding prop force.

@enemdisk6628

2 жыл бұрын

True

@FrenchcoreFlava

2 жыл бұрын

@@timq6224 can you elaborate?

@Doctom91

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrenchcoreFlava The formula presented in the minute 5:16 is a "simplified" form of the formula presented in the minute 13:40.

@adamgosztolai1502

2 жыл бұрын

​@@FrenchcoreFlava The equation for the propeller force is just an approximation based on the velocity of the wind and the vehicle. So the fact that it gives you an infinity when the two velocities are the same is because the equation is not "exact" but only a (first-order) approximation and not because the scientific basis of deriving it is wrong.

Professor Kusenko is a rock star. If only the rest of us could learn to apply the scientific method to our arguments - and act (and react) with such honesty.

The toughest part about this is getting Neal to keep his mouth shut and not sucking up all the wind.

When two scientists make a bet, everyone always wins.

@tapio_m6861

2 жыл бұрын

Though I was let to believe the wager is usually a subscription of a gentleman's magazine?

@swayback7375

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good quote Archer

@DeadJack57

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of how Tesla's professor said a brushless (AC) motor would be a perpetual motion device.

@razeezar

2 жыл бұрын

Now regarding those US Navy UFO videos, we need Thunderf00t to make a wager with any scientist disputing the analysis debunking the footage. If there were actually any scientist who was disputing the debunking, that is!

@ezra2370

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one

Never seen anyone change his mind after betting 10 grand.

@Mp57navy

2 жыл бұрын

Were you ever convinced you were right about something?

@hm5142

2 жыл бұрын

Scientists really do just want to understand things. And every good scientist has been wrong a lot, and has had to work hard to develop the correct view for the problem.

@mainscript0334

2 жыл бұрын

I never seen anybody bet 10k

@GabrieleNunnari

2 жыл бұрын

As scientist you cannot deny evidence, it is way worst than losing 10k =)

@larsbonau4067

2 жыл бұрын

It's called integrity, but I have to admit: That level of integrity is astonishing.

I love everything about this. Very good critical thinking by the professor of course: his potential counter explanations are what we need to get to the bottom of phenomena.

Fantastic and very informative. Keep it up.

"Disagreements are not problems: They are opportunities for everyone to learn something" 16:08 I try to apply this in business and am regularly disappointed how often people take sincere curiosity and attempts at open-minded disagreement as a personal or professional attack. Cheers to the scientists who keep it real.

@Thorinbur

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you. Every time you question anything in business context you are marked as a negative influance, and often get met with attacks on your person and motives as a response to honest inquiery.

@sweepsweep5572

2 жыл бұрын

and god forbid if you applied logical evidence based analysis and scrutiny of every evidence to the victimhood claims of women or non-whites. Lol they come with harpoons wanting to kill anyone who tries to fact check them

@davetoms1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sweepsweep5572 Strange, I find most people who claim to be using "logic and evidence" against victims of discrimination presume to know more about someone's experience than the person living it. Every single time I've witnessed someone claiming women and people of color don't face discrimination, it's only because they themselves are ignoring the mountains of evidence that the discrimination is real, dangerous, and deadly.

@Nostalgia_Addict

2 жыл бұрын

@@davetoms1 that's definitely not ALWAYS the case. Especially in this age of Smollets.

@davetoms1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nostalgia_Addict which is why I wrote "most people" and not "all people", despite it always being the case for my experiences engaging in those conversations.

When you just casually have the clout to call up Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson to witness an bet.

@Rick_Cavallaro

2 жыл бұрын

All of us can do that. But when Derek calls, they answer. :)

@Im_Not_From_Around_Here

2 жыл бұрын

Nye and de Grasses are not real scientists, they are narcissistic personalities who haven't done a paper in years.

@kilikus822

2 жыл бұрын

@@Im_Not_From_Around_Here I'd argue that inspiring the next generation of scientists is just as important as the work they've "left behind."

@daniellarson8291

2 жыл бұрын

@@Im_Not_From_Around_Here where's the narcissistic tendencies though? I agree with kilikus, having them interest a generation to pursue the sciences is just as, if not more so, important than them continuing on papers. Tyson definitely, because he is a black individual in the STEM realm and highly regarded, helps to break down barriers

@cloudshe

2 жыл бұрын

@@Im_Not_From_Around_Here narcissistic? how about they're just monetizing their likable personalities?

For me, it resembles the action of a sail boat that travels faster than the wind fillings its sails by cutting across the wind as long as it has sufficient fins or sharp bow to tract through the water. Thus, the sail acts as an air foil like your propeller and the bow/fin keel alike to your wheels. Where they are mechanically linked by the Mast as your chain does. Anyway, that what I immediately thought when I saw the testing. Very entertaining and thought-provoking. Loved it.

@johnborton4522

8 ай бұрын

You are correct. Just like the keel on the sailboat, the airfoil gearing constraint to the wheels ensures that for every unit of downwind travel, the airfoil is forced to make some specified unit ratio of crosswind travel. Remove the keel effect from a sailboat and it merely drifts downwind at some speed less than the wind. Cut the chain to the wheels and the Blackbird does the same.

Translation for an industrial engineer. An electric motor with a gearbox can increase the speed of the output with the same energy input. Energy requirement stays (relatively, minus friction) the same despite increased speed, and given there is enough torque to move said object on output shaft the output will move faster.