A Non-Transposing Clarinet?

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A look at the C Clarinet, a non-transposing member of the clarinet family.

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  • @picashlio3361
    @picashlio33617 ай бұрын

    Bb clarinets have a rich dark sound. C clarinets are vibrant and happy. One takes your brain on a walk through the enchanted forest, and the other runs with you through a wildflower meadow in spring.

  • @jame7093
    @jame70936 жыл бұрын

    "Many people brought a C Clarinet. You can SEE (lol) this in..."

  • @iolair1973
    @iolair19734 жыл бұрын

    I used to play an Eb alto- lovely tone

  • @Kyubiwan

    @Kyubiwan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try out the F clarinet

  • @nervchemnitz
    @nervchemnitz3 жыл бұрын

    I recently got a C clarinet and I love it! Mine uses Ohler-Albert key system so coming from my oboe background, feels more like an oboe in my hands although I'm used to playing Boehm clarinets. I could see finding a Boehm C as a future next instrument because I like the brighter tone of the C instrument vs Bb.

  • @grahamlyons8522
    @grahamlyons85227 жыл бұрын

    It sounds brighter on a C clarinet because it is being played in a key one tone higher.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    Graham Lyons the actual timbre is hard to convey on the video, but when playing the same pitches it is markedly brighter.

  • @majnjord

    @majnjord

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BretNewtonComposer I appreciated the info in the vid, but I really didn't get why you didn't play the comparison pieces in the same pitch but on the different instruments - that seems to be the most interesting comparison. You wouldn't happen to be interested in doing a new vid comparing the instruments that way instead? :)

  • @wilhelmbeck8498

    @wilhelmbeck8498

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think many of us, were expecting some serious transposition-wizardry.( To demonstrate the differences in timbre among the various sizes of instruments - /indeed a fact to consider

  • @sashakindel3600
    @sashakindel36007 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a scientific study on whether people can actually tell the difference between the sounds of the Bb and the A clarinets.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    If i had an A clarinet I definitely would.

  • @leotard2536
    @leotard25365 жыл бұрын

    3:24 Update, I have bought an Ab Clarinet.

  • @Kyubiwan
    @Kyubiwan3 жыл бұрын

    This instrument needs more love!!!

  • @D22oyd
    @D22oyd7 ай бұрын

    This video answered a lot of the questing that I had. Thanks for making it!

  • @cnewtonc
    @cnewtonc2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Video. Thank You!

  • @peterluundgren36
    @peterluundgren366 жыл бұрын

    So a C clarinet will have 'easier' fingerings (like a descant recorder) when I try to play with other musicians where they are playing song in the key of G for example. I have a Bb clarinet and find some of the fingerings quite difficult as I just play by ear.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    6 жыл бұрын

    The fingerings are exactly the same.

  • @stevenclark5965
    @stevenclark59657 жыл бұрын

    Wow just in time! I have been wanting to see a demonstration of the various timbres of clarinets in different keys.

  • @LeslieCraven

    @LeslieCraven

    6 жыл бұрын

    Do go to the Ridenour clips I did on my website www.lesliecraven.co.uk I demonstrate bb c and A with 2 models of Ridenour bb - hope this helps.

  • @nathanhol42001
    @nathanhol420015 жыл бұрын

    Someday I will own clarinets in A, Bb, C, D, and Eb. I already have A and Bb

  • @kevitamaster-brewkombucha5472

    @kevitamaster-brewkombucha5472

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nathan Hollis I have C

  • @democracydignityhumanrights

    @democracydignityhumanrights

    2 жыл бұрын

    First one to get an Ab piccolo clarinet wins.

  • @brucealanwilson4121
    @brucealanwilson41215 жыл бұрын

    Was this used in domestic and church music? For domestic music the C-clarinet could play the voice part for songs, and in church could play the melody on hymns. The "melody" sax was used thus.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's possible that it was, but unlikely. C Clarinets were never mass-produced like C Saxophones were. They were always seen as much more of a specialty instrument.

  • @JustClaude13
    @JustClaude132 жыл бұрын

    I think I'd like a baritone clarinet in C, slightly higher than the bass. That might be a fun toy.

  • @BrightnessAndShadow

    @BrightnessAndShadow

    Жыл бұрын

    Those actually used to exist.

  • @chichow08
    @chichow087 жыл бұрын

    I loved playing my Eb Soprano & Eb Alto Clarinets (I played them for hand therapy, because I have rheumatoid arthritis). I found them easier to play than my Bb Soprano Clarinet. Unfortunately, I don't have my Bb Sop or my Eb Alto anymore. The Eb Sop I have now needs some work on it, because my fingers got worse. I can't reach the 3rd left finger (C & G) or the pinky keys on both sides.

  • @zacharycoronado6749

    @zacharycoronado6749

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm so sorry. Find a good technician that can modify those keys. Just keep playing!

  • @kingrichardsvideos

    @kingrichardsvideos

    6 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with you. Aside being more prone to notice mistakes (as usually there is only one Eb player on a band), i find Eb easier to play than Bb. The high notes simply fly away with such ease. With Bb it isn't that easy, i prefer it for music sheets that have mainly lower notes. I never tried A and C, as they are quite rare to be seen around here (at least in 20 years on music world i've never seen one of them being played locally). Sorry to hear that you can't play anymore. The suggestion of Zachary is a good one. Using some sort of closed key to C and G like the #/b keys is not that hard to do with a good repairman. On the pinky keys, one just need to extend the keys further until you can reach them, that can even be achieved with a 3d printer.

  • @harrw3168
    @harrw31686 жыл бұрын

    In some concert bands where they cannot find an oboe player, they will use the C clarinet for oboe parts as there is no need to transpose music written for the oboe.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've never seen this done in all my years working with bands.

  • @wildravez9963

    @wildravez9963

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BretNewtonComposer I think it would make more sense for them to use a soprano sax as the timbre is closer to an oboe. Transposing c to b flat isnt difficult. Transposing, imo, isnt hard in general.

  • @okwhatever2995
    @okwhatever29957 жыл бұрын

    Now a random question what the point or reason by why there is the barrel part of the clarinet, why isn't it just on piece in the upper joint up to the mouth piece?

  • @georgepronto7653

    @georgepronto7653

    6 жыл бұрын

    The length of the barrel is still needed to keep the other notes in tune with each other, so that leaves you with the option of combining the barrel with the mouthpiece or with upper section of the keys. But what would the point be? Different barrels impart different tone and pitch to accomodate different players.

  • @aycc-nbh7289
    @aycc-nbh72894 жыл бұрын

    I have another question: we only have one oboe player in our band and she may leave soon. Would it be easy for any of the clarinetists to make the switch from a Bb to a C instrument to cover the oboe part?

  • @adrienthewitchcraftteacher4940

    @adrienthewitchcraftteacher4940

    4 жыл бұрын

    Depending on how hard the Oboe part is maybe. Finding a new oboeist may be hard to do, so you probably should have someone switch to C.

  • @Kyubiwan

    @Kyubiwan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oboe range: Bb3-G6 C clarinet range: E3-G6 It must at least fit the range of the oboe.

  • @diminuendo7525
    @diminuendo7525 Жыл бұрын

    man i want this now

  • @okwhatever2995
    @okwhatever29957 жыл бұрын

    Where can I find a C clarinet? If I search online I just get Bflat ?

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mine is an inexpensive Chinese made instrument that I got on eBay, but C Clarinets are not too difficult to find through various retailers.

  • @okwhatever2995

    @okwhatever2995

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bandestration nice thanks I literally just called and they said they could of order one, so that's good news

  • @norbeckhillsautomation8871

    @norbeckhillsautomation8871

    6 жыл бұрын

    William Ridenour sells C clarinets that are made in China and adjusted by him after import. I have one, and it is pretty good for a Chinese import. About $1000. More expensive than a cheapie student model, but not as expensive as a professional grade model.

  • @HighTen_Melanie

    @HighTen_Melanie

    6 жыл бұрын

    I just got one from Amazon uk for £209 GBP

  • @nervchemnitz

    @nervchemnitz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I found a C clarinet but in German/Oehler fingering - so approach it as a different instrument, i.e. if i were switching between clarinet to oboe or sax.

  • @zvonimirtosic6171
    @zvonimirtosic61716 жыл бұрын

    Try low-G clarinet; it definitely delivers something interesting.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have one, but it's not a very usable instrument.

  • @zvonimirtosic6171

    @zvonimirtosic6171

    6 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the music one wants to play, and will to experiment.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    6 жыл бұрын

    I just meant my instrument in particular. It's not a well-made clarinet.

  • @zvonimirtosic6171

    @zvonimirtosic6171

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I see. If not a secret, from where did you get it from? There are not many places that particular flavour of the clarinet can be purchased from ...

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's a Chinese-made instrument that I got off of eBay.

  • @maxgreen9967
    @maxgreen99675 жыл бұрын

    the tonal difference is basically non existent. maybe live it might be different, but by the time it's passed through your mic, your daw/video recording software, rendered for youtube, and then processed through sound, they basically sound identical.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's definitely different in person versus the recording/video.

  • @memohech
    @memohech7 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps you should consider getting a smaller mouthpiece for the C clarinet and using German reeds. My understanding is that the Bb clarinet mouthpiece and reeds might be to big.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've thought about that. There are a few out there like the Grabner, but they're also expensive. If I played it on a regular basis, I would.

  • @zacharycoronado6749

    @zacharycoronado6749

    7 жыл бұрын

    Some of the really old Pomarico mouthpieces use a smaller chamber size that works better. Personally I love my vintage using a very vintage D clarinet mouthpiece for Eb and C clarinets. Don't own either rn

  • @nervchemnitz

    @nervchemnitz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Newer modern C's seem to use the same Bb and A mouthpiece but in the past the C used a different mouthpiece which is possibly why it fell out of favour. German reeds are just different/narrower - even for the German Bb instruments. Not sure they'd work as a substitute on a C.

  • @654wizardguy
    @654wizardguy7 жыл бұрын

    What brand Eb do you use???

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's a cheap Chinese clone. I don't use it much.

  • @654wizardguy

    @654wizardguy

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bandestration Do you recommend any particular real brands?

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    Buffet is probably the standard.

  • @zacharycoronado6749

    @zacharycoronado6749

    7 жыл бұрын

    Buffet are good. The R13 Eb is terrible. Horrible intonation. I love Patricola personally

  • @zacharycoronado6749
    @zacharycoronado67497 жыл бұрын

    How bad is your Chinese C clarinet? Asking as I'm interested in buying one for the heck of it

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    Not bad at all. Plays perfectly well.

  • @davidroberts3262

    @davidroberts3262

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BretNewtonComposer how many C clarinet models are you aware of? I'm seriously considering getting one, maybe even one for my mother too.

  • @G2Lmovies
    @G2Lmovies2 жыл бұрын

    I've changed my comment like six times now because I seem to have a pretty wacky C clarinet. I'm trying to get the fingerings figured out. I can't find a chart and it's not exactly the same as Bb. I'm resorting to playing with a tuner and making my own.

  • @grahamlyons8522
    @grahamlyons85227 жыл бұрын

    The Nuvo Clarineo has a more then 3 octave range and is a fully chromatic C clarinet at one third the cost of the normal C clarinet. it is MUCH easier to play than the B flat clarinet being less than half the weight. .

  • @zacharycoronado6749

    @zacharycoronado6749

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes but unfortunately based on traditional views of performer's etiquette (music educators) the colors of the instruments stand out too much...

  • @grahamlyons8522

    @grahamlyons8522

    7 жыл бұрын

    There is a black model. That's what teachers want the school to buy but the children get much excited by the coloured ones.

  • @zacharycoronado6749

    @zacharycoronado6749

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also, can the stock mouthpiece be exchanged on the Nuvo instruments?

  • @zvonimirtosic6171

    @zvonimirtosic6171

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nuvo Clarineo is good only for Indian fakir's snake charming purposes. Snakes cannot hear the horrible sound of the instrument, only feel some vibrations, and so they are spared the nuisance.

  • @mrslinkydragon9910

    @mrslinkydragon9910

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ive only been playing my clarinet for about 2 weeks at time of this comment. Its easy to pick up... i have dyspraxia too!

  • @kevitamaster-brewkombucha5472
    @kevitamaster-brewkombucha54724 жыл бұрын

    Eb was slightly sharper than the C clarinet but I prefer C over Bb because I have a C clarinet 😅

  • @Kyubiwan

    @Kyubiwan

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's good. The C clarinet is cute 💗

  • @MaoRatto
    @MaoRatto7 жыл бұрын

    Why won't they bring back the clarinet C?

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean? I literally have a C Clarinet in my hand in this video.

  • @MaoRatto

    @MaoRatto

    7 жыл бұрын

    Like use it more often than the Bflat clarinet for being a non-transposing instrument.

  • @BretNewtonComposer

    @BretNewtonComposer

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's a specialty instrument. The characteristics of the B-flat won out for general use. If you want to write for C, go ahead, they're available to professionals. More often than not, when the C is called for in professional orchestras, the C is used.

  • @Cornodebassetto

    @Cornodebassetto

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bandestration not really in symphony orchestras as the players will transpose C parts unless of course your using period instruments. Modern opera and ballet players will use the C more often as entire works can be on C like Verdi and Rossini operas for example

  • @nathanhol42001
    @nathanhol420015 жыл бұрын

    Clearly clarinet is not your primary instrument

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    but that is not the point of the video...