A New 'Marinemaster' - Examining the SJE099

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Seiko did a lot of things well with this new Marinemaster release.
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0:00 - 2:04 Seiko's first diver design
2:04 - 3:30 How good is it?
3:30 - 4:14 Is it thin enough?
4:14 - 5:17 Better than a MM300?
5:17 - 6:20 This or save for a Tudor?
6:20 - 7:40 How is the new movement?
7:40 - 8:19 Does this wear too small?
8:19 - 9:40 What could be improved?
9:40 - 11:27 Closing thoughts

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  • @JimLecinski
    @JimLecinski2 ай бұрын

    black dial version of this one on a black sailcloth strap, bought at street price not list price, is a big winner and the way to go here.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I love finding deals. But I haven't seen these pop up much. The only 099 on watchrecon now is 100 less than retail

  • @mosquitojoyride
    @mosquitojoyride2 ай бұрын

    Have SJE101. Former owner of bb58. This fits better. It’s definitely my exit seiko diver, diver, and maybe even sports watch. I like that the bezel isn’t ceramic. Watch wears thin all round, which is why in this case i like they dont have a thick on the fly clasp adjustment

  • @HotMesssExpress

    @HotMesssExpress

    2 ай бұрын

    What kind of accuracy do you get? I've been looking into this watch as my next purchase.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for chiming in. I love getting owner perspectives on the watches in the videos. Its super helpful

  • @kylechow6072

    @kylechow6072

    2 ай бұрын

    as someone whos wrist size fluctuates a lot, the on the fly adjust on my marinemaster 300 is appreciated on the daily.

  • @mosquitojoyride

    @mosquitojoyride

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kylechow6072 One of my tests for comfort is being on the keyboard. The SJE is ok, not as comfortable as my stamped, friction clasp Tudor Date Day, but definitely my most comfortable diver. If I had a wish it's that Seiko would do a micro extension like Rolex's Easylink, but even better is Formex's 4mm micro extension. The Formex bracelet is so comfortable you can be on the keyboard all day. This should replace the ugly dive extension imo.

  • @lorenzo2384

    @lorenzo2384

    Ай бұрын

    What size is your wrist if you don’t mind me asking ?

  • @expertreviews1112
    @expertreviews11122 ай бұрын

    this is a fantastic offering from Seiko... Looks sublime on the wrist!! Perfect size too

  • @meindertsprang7491
    @meindertsprang7491Ай бұрын

    The "should you buy " question is very easy to answer: you should buy what you like. I own an SPB143 and an SPB 297 because I like the looks of them. That's all what really counts for use desk-divers ;-) And even if you are a snorkler of a scuba diver, any depth rating above 50 m is ok. Yes, for scuba diving too, because you don't dive deeper than 50 m anyway.

  • @adolfot.8763
    @adolfot.87632 ай бұрын

    The MarineMaster 300 is a legend 🌊

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    legend status for sure

  • @jeremydahm2124
    @jeremydahm21242 ай бұрын

    That is the prettiest Seiko diver I've seen. The color scheme alone is a selling point for me. Tasty.

  • @Z-S-H
    @Z-S-H2 ай бұрын

    I love the 4:30 date because like you said it gives you the markers for every hour and doesnt mess up the lume picture.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    like minds

  • @shaagaknowsyou5295
    @shaagaknowsyou52952 ай бұрын

    Rumours are there is a new updated Marinemaster coming out this summer based on the 1968 diver.

  • @hubsistupsi4868

    @hubsistupsi4868

    2 ай бұрын

    SLA079J1

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I can't wait to see real world pics of it. The leaked pics don't show much yet

  • @MrPINKFL0YD
    @MrPINKFL0YDАй бұрын

    I feel like you about it. One other thing is the pin and collars that seiko use. For the money it needs screws. It does look vvv nice though!

  • @spectralopticalvision
    @spectralopticalvision2 ай бұрын

    MM300, forever!

  • @johnmonachelli5256
    @johnmonachelli52562 ай бұрын

    MM 300 should be landing soon

  • @theenavybluemonster
    @theenavybluemonster2 ай бұрын

    I like the 6L movement. Hoping for an SJE version of the 1968 diver that the MM300 is based on since it’s my favorite Seiko diver design and will be more wearable as a daily driver than my SBDX017. Just hope they put the damn date at 3 (or gasp…a no date) but most likely they will put it at 430 like all their new divers. That clasp does suck ass but I’d wear it on a rubber strap. No ceramic bezel for me. I’m on team aluminum bezel.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I hear one is coming out later this year

  • @siddhant46s54
    @siddhant46s542 ай бұрын

    Can’t wait for the real MM300 the SLA079 to release this year! Have you heard about it Bruce?

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, really looking forward to seeing real world pics and looking at specs/pricing

  • @lorenzo2384
    @lorenzo2384Ай бұрын

    How did this go on the time grapher ?

  • @earlbee3196

    @earlbee3196

    Ай бұрын

    Who knows I don't know nobody knows.

  • @Pg91357
    @Pg913572 ай бұрын

    Wasnt a fan of this design at first. But after a while, it is growing on me.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    Same here

  • @theguardian3431
    @theguardian34312 ай бұрын

    Seiko is the only brand that reduces the power reserve at the highest tier. They should really fix that.

  • @WristWatcher
    @WristWatcher29 күн бұрын

    Grand Seiko applies logos on the display casebacks as well 🤷‍♂️ why do they do it? 🤷‍♂️ Best watch company's ever, though (Seiko + Grand Seiko)!

  • @macguyverson9370
    @macguyverson93702 ай бұрын

    Looks great to me!

  • @JamesandRibble
    @JamesandRibble2 ай бұрын

    The case design and finishing is so much nicer than slab sided Tudor. The clasp is poor however.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree

  • @JamesandRibble

    @JamesandRibble

    2 ай бұрын

    @BruceWilliams it would be fine on a $800 or even $1000 watch, but this is priced at entry level luxury, and needs a clasp to match.

  • @Not-a-bot222
    @Not-a-bot2222 ай бұрын

    I’ve always been of the opinion the 62MAS was boring as hell considering what followed. It a a run if the mill skin diver case with nothing original or to be proud of. The 6215, 6159, 6305 etc just changed the game and are really great watches. My favorite being the 6159-7001. The markers. The movement and the case are all incredible.

  • @ericmoss8344
    @ericmoss83442 ай бұрын

    Great design and I'm a fan... however I'm not a fan of the $3K price point for a SEIKO!! Perhaps if this had the Grand Seiko 8L spring-drive movement maybe, but come'on w/these crazy prices.

  • @GlobalCitizenUK
    @GlobalCitizenUK2 ай бұрын

    Why is a MM in a 62MAS case?

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    Haha I don't know

  • @hubsistupsi4868

    @hubsistupsi4868

    Ай бұрын

    because this is the new marinemaster line of seiko. they will bring out more divers with mm text on the dial soon. next is going to be the mm300 this summer... then maybe next year new tunas 🤙

  • @ae-ca602
    @ae-ca6022 ай бұрын

    Bruce, why my reply to Joe's comment keeps disappearing?

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't know, I have not removed any comments.

  • @joeskeptical4762
    @joeskeptical47622 ай бұрын

    *Based ONLY on videos & photos (in person could be another impression) the dial color strikes me (my opinion, yours could be much different) as too dressy, even dainty, for a diver. This could be a prudent, even savvy strategy to capture sales from customers who dislike chunky wrist bricks masquerading as watches, who perceive the color as enhancing daily wear suitability.*

  • @9426sunny
    @9426sunny2 ай бұрын

    I really don't understand why Seiko never gives us " singed crown" like other Swiss brands.

  • @mickeylickey123
    @mickeylickey1232 ай бұрын

    The bezel puts me off. I think it makes it look cheap

  • @SaltyWatchCollector
    @SaltyWatchCollector2 ай бұрын

    Cool offering even if it isn't for me. Seiko needs to stop with the 4:30 date window🤢

  • @joeskeptical4762

    @joeskeptical4762

    2 ай бұрын

    *Thank you, High Lord of Needs, your majesty's command will be invoked forthwith.*

  • @SaltyWatchCollector

    @SaltyWatchCollector

    2 ай бұрын

    @@joeskeptical4762 you sound quite pleasant. Enjoy the weekend

  • @joeskeptical4762

    @joeskeptical4762

    2 ай бұрын

    @@SaltyWatchCollector *Thank you.*

  • @Kingofgoodtimes.
    @Kingofgoodtimes.2 ай бұрын

    Everyone’s freaking out because it’s not the same as the 300. It’s just the name folks.

  • @m.l.679
    @m.l.6792 ай бұрын

    Not for me. Looks confused. Sad mix between an Aqua Terra and a 62MAS. Cheap clasp, ok bracelet. Marinemaster should be 300m not 200m. No thanks.

  • @MohammedKhaled-ju7gy
    @MohammedKhaled-ju7gy2 ай бұрын

    The bezel and dial looks cheap and if the movement is as bad as 6r then idk why Seiko is still selling watches

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    6L movement

  • @TheExpert-dx6xi
    @TheExpert-dx6xi2 ай бұрын

    It looks kind of small

  • @nort4315
    @nort43152 ай бұрын

    SEIKO is a big NO for me from a long time.They just don't improve.Well,only the prices :p

  • @stevenfreeman7798
    @stevenfreeman77989 күн бұрын

    Looks brilliant in black shit in 2 tone!!

  • @shannontoppenberg
    @shannontoppenberg2 ай бұрын

    common youre messing with my OCD with that unaligned blip...

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I have commited the first sin of reviewing a dive watch. I'm sorry haha

  • @MrZanzibar123
    @MrZanzibar1232 ай бұрын

    I like the looks but Seiko putting a cheaper movement and less water resistance for almost as much money is complete hogwash. A lightly used SLA can be had for less and blows this out of the water.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I think the SLA051 is criminally undervalued used right now. I see them in the mid 1000s with the lovely 8L caliber

  • @MrZanzibar123

    @MrZanzibar123

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BruceWilliams could not agree more! (Have two SLA Willards and they are amazing.)

  • @Chrissepisje
    @Chrissepisje9 күн бұрын

    I hate ceramic bezel inserts. They are sterile, develop no life, and in most cases they are too shiny. I will pay more money for a watch as long as it does not have a ceramic bezel. So anodised aluminium or coated aluminium for the win. I would hope it fades a bit, I would hope it scoffs a bit. That makes it your watch, and that makes it a tool watch. But what I'm wondering about... Can you expand on the "other regards" in which the Tudor will be better? I'm geniunely curious, aside from the T-fit clasp. Regarding the movement, if you leave aside the finishing, they made a movement with the same specs and thinness as the venerable ETA 289x series movements, which are fantastic. In fact, I'd be hard pressed to understand the benefits of a Kenissi versus a good old fashioned ETA289x. I have two watches with a 6L movement (limited KS and Alpinist), and they are cracking.

  • @TLW896
    @TLW8962 ай бұрын

    I looked at the watch for about 11 seconds. SSSD.( Same Sad Seiko Design).

  • @Ae073001
    @Ae0730012 ай бұрын

    It looks fine and has Seiko charm, but in my opinion, Seiko is falling behind in various areas, especially value for money. Not only have many microbrands caught up with Seiko, but they've surpassed them in many areas. 1. At this point, there is no excuse for not having any microadjustment on their clasps. Every microbrand I have not only have microadjustment in their clasp but also quick release bracelets. Erebus and Zelos, for under $500, has both, and they're pretty dang good. It seems Seiko is just being stubborn, as this is something thats been expressed for years. What a disappointment. 2. There is no excuse for anything over 1k to not have ceramic bezels. Seiko keeps doing this coating over steel to give the illusion of ceramic without giving ceramic. Again, microbrands give ceramics at less cost than Seiko. I have 2 brands, Nodus and Ginault, that have fully lumed sapphire bezels, which, to me, is better than ceramic. The Nodus is $825, and the Ginault is $1400, but a 2k Seiko still has a steel bezel, which "seems" to be a cost cutting measure. Come on Seiko! 3. The movements are behind and have always been behind. Unless one moves upmarket a few k to a GS or a top tier 3k and above watch, the movement is going to be subpar. A SW300 in watches at or below Seikos 2k offerings far outpreform what Seiko offers. I had a Monta Skyquest-Coke, and out the box, it was guaranteed COSC levels, not this wide range of deviation that may or may not be the case in Seiko's. The place in my heart that used to be occupied by seiko has now been replaced with microbrands. They may not have the name or heritage, but they will definitely push the envelope to get customers what they want without the shell game or breaking open the bank. I truly do hope they start listening and responding or they will lose more and more customers to brands that will give us what we are looking for. If Seiko just implements the few things I and others are and have been asking for...game over. Anyway, apologies on length. Lol

  • @KirilGeorgiev-hr4ol

    @KirilGeorgiev-hr4ol

    2 ай бұрын

    The price is not the reason of that no ceramic bezel, seiko has ceramic bezels in much cheaper pieces.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't apologize my friend. You voice valid things that a lot of watch collectors resonate with!

  • @KirilGeorgiev-hr4ol

    @KirilGeorgiev-hr4ol

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BruceWilliams some want to see it get aged

  • @bradentraub
    @bradentraub2 ай бұрын

    I just couldn't. Its $300 less than I bought my Tudor Glamour Double Date for which is an absolute stunner of a watch...and a Tudor. I just can't reconcile the fact that I have a LOVELY Seiko Prospex Padi Special Edition (SRPB99) with a crazy textured dial that only cost $380 with this watch's MSRP.

  • @coffeeboyclips1973

    @coffeeboyclips1973

    2 ай бұрын

    Tudor is not in the same league as Seiko, it's seen as a cheap Rolex copy brand with no prestige

  • @bradentraub

    @bradentraub

    2 ай бұрын

    @@coffeeboyclips1973 Nice try troll lol

  • @watchroll3310
    @watchroll33102 ай бұрын

    The movement is better than an SW-200. Sellitas are always not as durable and not as reliable.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    I've never had an issue knock on wood

  • @pk1342

    @pk1342

    2 ай бұрын

    The 6L is an equivalent to eta2892a2/sw300 not the 2824/sw200

  • @carloslee2663
    @carloslee266319 күн бұрын

    I have the marinemaster sla047j1, i like the marinemaster 300 more than this one

  • @marcheezy.
    @marcheezy.2 ай бұрын

    Seiko and their trash clasps unecessarily make their watches look cheaper. It's a major disservice to the company's efforts, GS included.

  • @BruceWilliams

    @BruceWilliams

    2 ай бұрын

    Weak point of all Seiko and GS models

  • @expertreviews1112
    @expertreviews11122 ай бұрын

    My only real complaint about this one is the edges of the markers/indices, they're very poorly done, to the point that it's downright unacceptable...

  • @diego750
    @diego7502 ай бұрын

    This watch at £3k with that clasp and that movement shows Seiko is trolling us now. It's a max £1,500 piece. Interesting design but it's a look that will age badly.

  • @theenavybluemonster

    @theenavybluemonster

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s the 6L not the 6R movement.

  • @diego750

    @diego750

    2 ай бұрын

    @@theenavybluemonster it’s nothing special

  • @theenavybluemonster

    @theenavybluemonster

    2 ай бұрын

    @@diego750 I like the 6L a lot. It’s thinner than the 8L and more accurate than the 6R.

  • @pk1342

    @pk1342

    2 ай бұрын

    It's every bit as good as an ETA2892-A2, which it was designed as an alternative too. And there are many more expensive watches carrying the ETA2892-A2

  • @WristWatcher

    @WristWatcher

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@diego750 the 6l37 is very special actually!

  • @cryptoengineer9930
    @cryptoengineer99302 ай бұрын

    Disappointed with that watch, its not a marinemaster. No depth to the dial ect. Come on Seiko do better.

  • @Steve-qs9eq
    @Steve-qs9eq2 ай бұрын

    Unsigned crown, awkward looking clasp. Might as well be time only with that date. Other than that, it's aces.

  • @monemaker0234
    @monemaker0234Ай бұрын

    I dont know why seiko keeps that painful in the ass date complication. Sad

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy12 ай бұрын

    ugh seiko

  • @MarkDanger777
    @MarkDanger7772 ай бұрын

    Would never buy a seiko for that much. Longines, tudor, oris, all better choices for similar price.... maybe put a grand in front of it, then people might consider

  • @ae-ca602
    @ae-ca6022 ай бұрын

    Same old cheap clasp. Come on Seiko. I would go with the Christopher Ward C60 Trident Pro 300 over this.

  • @joeskeptical4762

    @joeskeptical4762

    2 ай бұрын

    *Please describe how the clasp is inferior and also compare it to other clasps you believe are up to standard.*

  • @ditmerk

    @ditmerk

    2 ай бұрын

    Deluded 😂

  • @ae-ca602

    @ae-ca602

    2 ай бұрын

    Feel free to visit the the CW website to learn more about their clasp.

  • @ryan850r

    @ryan850r

    2 ай бұрын

    It's pretty widely known that Seiko bracelets/clasps are pretty subpar. That's including grand Seiko as well.

  • @Tdawg0620

    @Tdawg0620

    2 ай бұрын

    Nah that CW is hideous

  • @HarshilPandit
    @HarshilPandit2 ай бұрын

    Seiko is really falling behind on value. Bad bracelets and clasps and ok movements

  • @WristWatcher

    @WristWatcher

    Ай бұрын

    The bracelet is great actually, you can adjust the links to make a perfect fit since thr links are so small, also, because the links are small and can move around so much, it makes the bracelet curve to your wrist making it extremely comfortable. The clasp is super thin too

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