too many western people are too blind about China. China is doing well for its chinese people and keeps it up for many decades so far. China has right to choose its own way for developing own country. orher nations please mind your iwn business.

@ektan7912

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and is none of the west business just tell them to "F" off

@hikefka8001

Жыл бұрын

That's why you got CGTN on KZread.

China is an aggressive builder, US is an aggressive Bomber. This Canadian is cheering for the builder.

@Playa566

2 жыл бұрын

You should move there let's see how long your cheering for them.

why so much propaganda discussion about south east asia - lets just drop the matter and discuss America and the relationship between USA and the other American nations like Cuba and Mexico and Venezuela when is USA vacating the Guantanamo bay when is USA returning Texas to Mexico and when Can Mexico get back California when is USA paying compensation for all the murders committed by the USA / CIA in south America American universities and intellectual seem to be very blind about their own faults how can the world get together and force USA to behave or how can we nuke USA to make them behave.

Is there a clean version without the moderator? Thanks.

Perhaps the moderator should ask the panelists why the US goes around the world generating tensions, instigating and fostering conflicts? What good has this done for the people in the regions of conflict except broken homes, devastated economies and immense sufferings. Also, while this benefits the defence contractors in the west, how does this benefits the average Americans except throwing American soldiers in harm way and getting killed fighting wars which does not concern them?

@andyhughes1776

2 жыл бұрын

Bobby N, Why? This is why: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIqnpJJwc8a5fto.html

@alfredgoh3647

2 жыл бұрын

,,, .

@leehobson1220

2 жыл бұрын

Well Bobby, its not just the "US". I think if you actually looked at this in a holistic view with the understanding of security cooperation within the ASEAN community...you would see that the presence of US, UK, Japan, and the Aussies is brought upon by requests. We as a western society do not generate the "tension"...we act as a deterrence to prevent conflict. You mention broken homes, devastated economies, and immense sufferings...please research the uyghurs, fulan gong, Hong Kong democracy protests, Tiananmen Square, and Khmer Rouge....I think you will see that western presence is requested and appreciated because of the gross atrocities created and committed by the CCP. As a veteran that has found a calling in geopolitical research after life in the military, I can tell you with absolute certainty.... the ignorance or neglect to this problem only enables history to repeat itself.

@jaytee4482

2 жыл бұрын

@@leehobson1220 can you provide evidence that the presence of us, uk, japan and oz has been requested by asean countries? The c i .a/ned is currently very active in Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia etc. interfering in the internal affair of these countries.

How could anyone appoint such a biased "moderator "?! He literally bristled at the comment by Professor Kishore on China...

The problem is that the US is saying that we must limit China's rise by any means, especially by using military means. China concluded that if it is not more assertive, the US is going to simply crash China's oppurtunity of development. Now if you are China, what will you do?

@chronicmasturbator3205

2 жыл бұрын

Huawei is a criminal organisation.

@treg9492

2 жыл бұрын

US games and tricks to maintain global domination.

@williamc9578

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. The US really only wants one thing, maintain its global hegemony. It will stop at nothing, until it is stopped, to achieve that end. China really has little choice regarding the South China Sea. It is vital to the transport of goods to and from China, which the Americans and their allies are trying create a choke point. Hence the robust military presence by the Chinese there. The analogy is like this: A factory owner is building his business and has good products wanted by many customers. He is however surrounded by rival business owners, who have hired thugs threatening to hijack and interdict shipment of products from the factory. And in the meantime, keeps telling others that this factory makes bad product (see comments below for examples). What does the factory owner do? Fold his business and cower in fear? Or make sure there can be no disruption to the shipment of raw materials and goods to make his business successful?

@crowrequiem3934

2 жыл бұрын

@Purple Dust no gov can work without some kind of public support, if the gov can't be toppled the next step would be to demonize it's ppl, it's what happened before with US propaganda, it will happen again when the US prepares for war.

@dweller6065

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamc9578 And what of the rights of the half billion people who live in countries around the SCSea who are not Chinese? Their livelihoods depend on access to sea lanes, the fish and hydrocarbons to be found off their coastlines. The CCP's ridiculous claim to SCSea robs these nations of much of their exclusive economic zones. SKorea and Vietnam will require a permission slip from the CCP to access sea lanes. The world has moved on little emperor- the constellation of smaller nation states prevails, not imperial empires that the CCP aspires to.

When the American moderator referred to China as "more repressive at home" (5:40) you know where he's trying to steer the forum. The European speaker was also strangely (perhaps understandably) selective when talking about China's relationship with its neighbours. Its relationship with Japan (2 invasions of China in recent times), Taiwan (still technically at war with the mainland) are strained but remarkable in that despite all the problems hasn't deteriorated into wars. China still supplies Taiwan with vital water and food, while cross-straits trade has been increasing over the years. Same with Japan. Both countries have investment in China which are welcomed. As for China's other neighbours, barring India, the relationship has been nothing short of warm and friendly. China is building rail and other major infrastructures in Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore. Sure, there are border disputes, but most ASEAN countries have such disputes among themselves yet no one single out any of them as being overbearing. Even in this Asian-based forum, one can see that the western participants are quite myopic and keen to push their selective perspectives.

@mystictraveler8642

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Well said.

@fannyalbi9040

2 жыл бұрын

i called it “pathetic western self righteousness ideology”

@chronicmasturbator3205

2 жыл бұрын

STOP ✋ THE UYGHUR GENOCIDE

@kwokholuk8723

2 жыл бұрын

@@chronicmasturbator3205 Where is the evidence? fake news from America.

@shreekantsrivastava4269

2 жыл бұрын

You have not assumed a friendly name. You sound like an agent of the CPC.

I never understood why US is so concern about a region that's halfway around the world? Does China get itself involve in the North American hemisphere? No. So why does US have to get itself involve in the Eastern hemisphere.

@zachheisen5022

2 жыл бұрын

Because it has been a mission of American foreign policy since the second world war to engage with various nations through trade, with the hopes that the interconnection to economies would prevent further war.

@basichem1

2 жыл бұрын

Is that why US had war in Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan etc ?

@jacklouie8096

11 ай бұрын

Racious

@user-ed9so2rb4k

6 ай бұрын

@@zachheisen5022 , Preventing wars??? They created them!

The moderator ask very unfair question: can the ASEAN surrender the security to China? 1. The US’s military presence is not the reason of peace in the region but the lack of aggression of the ASEAN countries in general. US’s presence is only for its own interest. 2. This shallow question reflect something about the moderator. Same question: why the Canada does not surrender the security to the US??

@chronicmasturbator3205

2 жыл бұрын

ALL WUMAO OUT OF CANADA NOW 😃

@brainwashington1332

2 жыл бұрын

Canada has already relented their air defense to the US. Canadian NORAD is commandeered by American generals.

@jocheah4000

2 жыл бұрын

ASEAN do not welcome American navy expedition in South China Sea as it destabilize the region. The Yankee should address her own domestic issues.

*Bert Hoffman, the moderator, is totally out of his depth with this group of speakers. His views are out of touch with realities on the field in the Asia-Pacific region.*

@donaldjoseph3903

2 жыл бұрын

Freedom of speech. This is the beauty of Western political values.

@ektan7912

2 жыл бұрын

This moderator is a clown

@thy7732

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldjoseph3903 that is exactly how the pandemic deteriorated in the western world.

@donaldjoseph3903

2 жыл бұрын

@@mac-gv8wc Let the listener decides whether there is "value" in what is being said. No government or individual should decides for another what is "valuable". That is fascism.

@maddoo23

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldjoseph3903 "No government or individual should decides for another what is "valuable". That is fascism." Glad you agree that America is Fascist.

This talk has turned into a debate between the passive aggressive chair-person, Burt, & the rest of the guests. American Burt could hardly contain himself, with the way he bristled with indignation, by his guests' opinions. I'm glad he got schooled, in an abstract manner and I must say the then palpable tension could be felt belatedly, watching this video days and weeks after. The paradox of this talk is that the majority of the guests are centrists in their views but there is a keen sense that Burt wanted a panel that were totally pro-American continued & he clearly wasn't pleased.

@waynet8953

2 жыл бұрын

A moderator is suppose to be neutral..LOL!

@typicalKAMBlover21

2 жыл бұрын

Burt is from Netherland....

@jascforfun7576

2 жыл бұрын

He reeks of typical Western arrogance, "I can't get you to say anything negative about China" as he said to Kishore. WTF are you trying to corrale speakers views as a moderator?

Kishore as usual is in his elements...kudos to Kishore

China is viewed differently in ASEAN countries. And the West view is not the global view for sure.

@hikefka8001

Жыл бұрын

Yes. But to those who can understand that. Western propaganda is really anchored in the mind of Westerners... Anyway, things are changing and facts are everywhere. Where do you come from btw to say that? Can you detail you PoV?

@user-ed9so2rb4k

6 ай бұрын

@@hikefka8001 , Nothing more than their morbid fears that China is overtaking them in all aspects of technologies!

Do you know, i saw John Bolton interview in KZread, his strategy is to set up many organisations like AUKUS, Quad etc to contain China. *China remain focus on its belton road initiatives * strengthen its economy *reunification of Taiwan

@whaikuratuhaka7029

2 жыл бұрын

John Bolton is just an old Fart , he's ready to be placed in the NY aged care,we need to round his kind up , and place them in the Guantanamo bay, prison,till death do we pass,lest we forget, I will.

So one of Burt Hofman's objectives in this panel discussion is to get each of the guests to say something negative about China? :D Hilarious! He was actually disappointed, and body language doesn't lie, after Kishore's objective description of South East Asia's relationship with China, and problems in the Taiwan Straits and The DiaoYu Islands. This is a sad demonstration that academics who often champion open-minded, objective discourse, but is really ideologically dogmatic, are the furthest thing from objective discourse.

@ektan7912

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed 101%, he still having the old colonial mindset. It's a shame to has him as a modulator, 😭😭😭

@thy7732

2 жыл бұрын

the old colonialists are struggling to maintain the power

@keepcalmcarryon9097

2 жыл бұрын

It is an Asian topic, why do need this Dutch clown to chair, does Asia not have talenta to do so?

@qianhu1517

2 жыл бұрын

It is NUS-Yale school, so not surprising. There is a video talking abt what NUS-Yale school is.

@hallo84

2 жыл бұрын

How can you have a different frame of mind when you are indoctrinated since childhood to object any form of political system that's not built on universal sufferage. They make it a primary goal in highschool to teach students in that only universal sufferage = liberal democracy. Anything else is just evil and based upon domination.

US has been in a hysterical about China starting with Trump, not getting better with Biden. US motions on China are becoming more and more irrational. India has always been that way and the 2 are starting to panic together. This makes for a toxic atmosphere.

@peterlim1972

2 жыл бұрын

@Purple Dust Please go check on your trade statistic. India was never the largest trade partner of China. You not buying China products is your choice and probably it is because you are better off. But the fact is millions of Indians are buying Chinese made products. Perhaps you are not aware that iPhone and many branded products from the US, EU, Japan and S. Korea are made in China.

The host was so unhappy when the 1st three panelists speaks well of China, and then see him smile, grinning from ear to ear when the only white guy there starts to talk ill of China. And he then gave him even more talk time, even though he has already rant the longest.

@fannybirot2362

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right!

49:22 the moderator was like 'I won't get you to say anything negative on China'?! is that what the moderator after? what a BS!!

@basichem1

2 жыл бұрын

I was shocked when I heard it.

@djhpsr900

2 жыл бұрын

Scrap that moderator

Kishore is such a great thinker and speaker, great perspective!

Why not ask the Chinese academics and officials to discuss their own policies instead of these analysts who are guessing what is going on in China.

@wakhansharma8225

Жыл бұрын

@@iLoveBeingDelusional4U Not party line it's china line .

Other than the moderator's very transparent bias and outdated imperialist outlook of China and S. E. Asia, this was a good panel discussion. It's gonna be difficult for the West to adapt to a world where China and other Asian countries speak up as equal sovereigns rather than as weak vassal states. But adapt them must. Instead of divide and rule, the West must now work collectively with the rest of the world, like it or not.

@keepcalmcarryon9097

2 жыл бұрын

and he is supposedly a China expert, what a laugh!

@RobertReg1

2 жыл бұрын

Was going to ask, how can anyone consider China some rising world-dominator... Lot of issues facing them

@keepcalmcarryon9097

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobertReg1, They will become the world largest economy, every cpuntry has challenges, there is no such thing as perfect run country.

@RobertReg1

2 жыл бұрын

@@keepcalmcarryon9097 people in this vid refer to China as world's leading economy, and that view permeates the masses. You are one of the few I've heard refer to it as otherwise. My opinion - China has major crisis at home - population, housing, water, economy. Wealthy exert power. Minorities and atrocities. Border unrest. Populations in centers understand these problems and China maintains over 100,000 (at times 200,000,) police in Hong Kong alone to control population unrest. People understand the socialism is trying to be forced into nationalism. China's real problem lies therein, in my opinion. These same countries they have spent 20 years buying on cheap and/or stealing info from are going through same socialist/nationalist movements. Populations will feel violated over 'The East' forcing trade and culture while hoarding wealth. They are gonna have to deal with Korea, ROC, all SE Pacific, Russia, India, Afghanistan, Europe, Africa and South America. France does not want them or Russia in South America and both SA and Africa are fraught with as much peril as Afghanistan. Also, those regions face competition from all major countries. China should have chilled with rhetoric and not forced military expansion, in my opinion. Or, they should have taken ROC by electronic espionage and force a few years ago. At this point, the world has chess pieces in place against China expanding via traditional arms. Their trade and currency is stretched. They absolutely need to expand for several reasons. Their ports and major builders' stocks have taken large hits. World knows what China has been up to and what they face.

@keepcalmcarryon9097

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobertReg1, lol, sounded like all you know about China is from your local news media, the clue is when you mentioned 'atrocities' and Hong Kong, Those nonesense are dead give aways. China has its challenges but nowhere near your fantasies nor in truth. As for your accusation of military expansion, she is trying to take back the island a.k.a Taiwan which the Japanese stole from her by force. She is the only major power who has not fought a war since 1979, so much for military expansion, the same cannot be said for your country nor your so called allieds.

If we look at the growth trajectory of China in the last forty years, of course, we can say this is unparallel in human history. The US and the West stood stunned and never ever wanted to say that all this happened under Socialism or Communism was a miracle. As a result, the US decided to glorify India as a counterbalance almost parallel with China in terms of Economic growth but failed. As someone said China rose to the present level in the shortest possible time without firing a single shot, which worries the US to open fire as a troubleshooter. in short, what the US achieved in 250 years China done it in just 40 years. What is better, the outdated Democracy or Socialism. I presume slowly and studly the world will opt for the latter with a bit shy.

@tonivang123

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think china has achieved parity with the USA in 40 years economically or militarily. The fact is that china was able to lift more than 500 million of its citizens out of poverty and improve its military capabilities. The Chinese should thanks the west for allowing china to join the global communities. Otherwise china is still looking like Cuba today.

@Brynden-Rivers

2 жыл бұрын

Its capitalism that sprung chinas rise. China like america now has the power to rival the usa. Germany, japan, and russia all thought were you are thinking now...

@aaronl5826

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonivang123 why china needs to thank west for allowing china to join global community ?

@biggdaddyy

Жыл бұрын

The glorify and strategic support of India by USA just started after Donald trump and really took ground after COVID , you will see serious changes in next 10 years. Though iam an Indian but really happy to see growth of China , all the best for future.

USA go away from Asia the problems will disappear.

@picandvideo

2 жыл бұрын

@@iLoveBeingDelusional4U - let the locals decide. They don’t need Anglo empire to decide for them. Southeast Asia has enough unexploded bombs yet to be removed. Thankyou but go away.

Burt Hofmann is a terrible and biased moderator who basically disagrees with everything Kishore has to say. If I am not mistaken that he has given the lone Western speaker more time to speak than that of three other speakers combined. Please find a more qualified moderator next time.

@1andonly168

2 жыл бұрын

That right. Using word like more repressive at home (China) without any understanding of a responsive govt.in China shows he is biased already

@laile5752

2 жыл бұрын

Moviechineshong Kong

@peterlim1972

2 жыл бұрын

Now we know why the US is declining when people of his intellectual level can't even see the evils the US has have and still continues to commit around.

@catrojana3694

2 жыл бұрын

The dearth of intellectuals with USA as the best brains won't work for them and the brain draining been for many years. You look at their talking heads and the garbages they spewed, you can gauge the qualities they represented, all of them are slithering snakes with an agenda. In modern mass media, they'll be on the record and a few years from now most of them will be judged as subversives.

Taiwan is a province of China and the Diaoyu Island was supposed to be returned to China instead to Japan after end of WW11 which was colonised by Japan!

I think there is more trust in China's government. In the collective west, it appears that there is less trust, but that is just the countries that the US is able to pressure on certain issues. The media also writes in a negative way. But there are still collaboration and projects happening regardless of the US pressure.

The individual chairing this discussion keeps voicing his minority view in spite of the views of the other guests who diplomatically do not agree with him. The Chair in fact should keep his views to himself!

@donaldjoseph3903

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone has freedom of speech, and that includes Kishore too.

Come on, let guests expresses their opinions not correct them. This is how debate is for. It shows how the host is used to be arrogant and continues to behave in such.

@HiddenAgendas

2 жыл бұрын

West always trying to "correct" people even when they are flat out wrong.

BAMM!!! Kudos to Prof. Kishore Edited: [ My first observation is that something VERY Strange is happening in the world. What is that strange thing? China's return was inevitable. It is the world's oldest civilization. The extraordinary weak position for the last two hundred years was unnatural. Therefore China was going to come back. And when China decided to come back, it could have either come back as an Angry Dragon or a Peaceful Dragon. But what is remarkable about our time, that even the Chinese have decided to come back as a Peaceful Dragon, not start any war. Instead of the west welcoming this, the west judging from everything in every angle is trying to provoke this Peaceful Dragon to make it an Angry Dragon. And this is VERY very puzzling to future historians on many occasions. It is absurd for the West to believe that the Chinese are belligerent actors, what do you mean they are belligerent actors?! Graham Allison the American political scientist once said, "Americans enjoyed lecturing Chinese to be more like the United States, BUT perhaps they should be careful what they wished for! Historically he asked, how have emerging hegemons behave to be more specific, how did Washington behave a century ago, when the United States emerged?" And this is the answer the West has to acknowledge themselves. The United States is a warlike nation for the last two hundred years. Therefore, just compare yourself to China's record today with the USA's record, and you can see how Peaceful China has been. What's, even more, amazing is China is emerging with the world based on Western Rules and embracing the western liberal ruled based order(the United Nations International Laws). The West should welcome China today with the Peaceful Rise instead of doing things the otherwise in slapping on China's face!! The whole world all are looking at how BIZARRE the West is. The developing countries all are witnessing this double standard that the West is doing unto China, especially the ASIAN countries. ASIAN countries all should be brave and tell the West to STOP this awkward provocation against China and let's focus on the elimination of Covid-19, fight Climate Change, and for economic recovery ASAP productively to help heal humanity and the world. This is crucial for Global! ]

@leehobson1220

2 жыл бұрын

LOL..I think you should do more research in the flawed perception of "peaceful dragon" or a comparing China's record with western countries. Please lookup tiananmen square, Khmer Rouge, Uyghurs, fulan gong, Hong Kong democracy protests, and disappearance of writers from Hong Kong. The west is certainly not perfect, however add up the number of years of oppression and deaths caused by the CCP and you will find that China does not have a clean 200 years LOL. Stop the madness and gross narrative that the CCP is a rising power of "prosperity". Lastly, do people not realize that Taiwan is the first civilization in Asia to legalize same sex marriage? A huge progressive move within the Asia community...that would not be recognized nor legal under true CCP control.

@jaytee4482

2 жыл бұрын

@@leehobson1220 stop copy paste, you troll.

@efeocampo

2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis. I would disagree with the "angry" dragon concept, since China has never been an imperialist power the way the US has been since abusing Mexico and taking so much land from them, then abusing Spain and so on, with the exception of the Mongols, who in turn were forced to attack areas within China when they were deprived of food, and of course never forgetting the invasion by Gengis Khan era mongols... The fleet put together by Admiral Zheng He, was so big and powerful that not even current US Navy would be the equivalent... To prove this: One of Zheng's Treasure ships, built around 1420, would accomodate 4 'Carabelas' used by Christopher Columbus 70 years later (and portuguese 'naos') which ultimately conquered the world... And that powerful fleet was never used to invade ANY other country, even if it could... Only they did militarily was helping a friend king to suppress a little rebellion... What China has wantes is to have all chinese speaking people under their 'protective' roof... This explains why sooner or later Taiwan will be reunified, hopefully not by force, which would be a huge, stupid geopolitical mistake by mainland chinese leaders, which ALL chinese would regret later. Best tactics, imho, is to entice, convince taiwanese, PEACEFULLY, of the BRNEFITS of ONE NATION, TWO SYSTEMS !!!

@jeffberlin4179

2 жыл бұрын

I'm American. First I would like to praise China for the launch and crewing of your space station. Well done. I'm going to be sarcastic and humorous here. Mixed with some reality. Just drift with me a bit. Are my masters really asking for too much? All they want is China to. 1) Allow a private Federal Reserve Bank of China to be set up modeled after the American Federal Reserve. 2) Permit American Hollywood, News media and advertising, and internet platforms to have free reign. Just look how successful these unregulated industries have worked for America. 3) Take down your flag and fly the rainbow 🌈 flag proudly. Then you too can celebrate all of the radical activism like we do in America. 4) Import our best and brightest college professors. Focusing on liberal arts and humanities of course. We know you desire our Gender studies, Race studies, Minority studies, and Critical Race Theory studies professors. Of course instead of the focus being on white males, they will substitute Chinese males for proper cultural adjustment. Oh, for any Chinese males that are hesitant, trust me I'm a white males and let me tell you. You will really enjoy being called a racist, bigot, sexist, transphobe, and supremacist, ect,. This will be a good start and I'm sure my masters will embrace you, if you will just acquiesce to these few requests 😉. Lol.

It seems to me that Holman is less than objective in his moderation of this discussion: He seeks criticism of China and skepticism concerning the solidity of its rise…premised largely on his biased perspectives on the West. But as Kishor hinted, the US has been a belligerent power…with 800 military bases around the world. And China achieved a free run, precisely because America and the West were engaged in illegal and quite foolish wars in Central Asia and economic and financial criminality that led to 2008. The demand for moral leadership by China’s interlocutors should admit that whilst that is a good thing for the world, America and the West are not examples of this moderation and China’s pursuit of Taiwan is eminently more reasonable than the 100 wars America engaged in during the 20th century, or the 9 wars American citizens know nothing about that America is engaged in currently.

Where is voice from China?

@donaldjoseph3903

2 жыл бұрын

Kishore.

@yenphung8809

2 жыл бұрын

Kishore is not from China, he is from Singapore.

Why was it not possible to have a panelist actually from China?

@alexlawcb

2 жыл бұрын

Good question!

@tonyseto5144

2 жыл бұрын

no, i support China, but not with the communist one party rule, please find out how dictator ruling chinese is china, i lived in china for yrs, i seen enough, china is great country, china is much better off without communist's ruling , let the people elect their government , less corruption, much more prosper than what it is, much peacefully with the world.

@alexlawcb

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyseto5144 how do you know? Check out the TV series, No Poverty Land from TVB, HK

The most emotional Kishore I have ever seen since I started following him a couple of years ago..

The moderator is so ignorant of the histories and geopolitics of Asia.

The moderator is extremely rude, snide comments at the end of considered statements by the guests are not a mark of intelligence. He needs to grow up.

Always point your finger to blame the Chinese. Whenever and what so ever. ha ha ha. ! !

the moderator should be impartial. He always directed questions from a preconceived perspective.

It is sad but you can see definite rift between the Asian speaker and the Western speakers. It sad because these are suppose to be intellectuals dealing with same observations you would think they would be more in line. The questions who is dealing closer to reality!

Despite the moderation, a lot of productive discussion.

Go Kishore, go. I hate to see the face of those 2 white men.

Yale university, now we know why Singapore kicked them out of National University of Singapore collaboration.

LOL, any geopolitical discussion by Yale is a joke...plain and simple a propaganda piece. These skull and bones only cares about hegemony and not about how many lives are affected in a negative way.

Kishore you are the best with a realistic analysis of regional development. The host is such a sham!

China, key concepts for its long term dominance, imho: 1. Not a religious country (mostly) 2. Confucian ethics upbringing for family and socio-politics 3. Three millennia of socio-political learning processes with many ups, downs and all kinds of possibilities 4. Social cohesion, benefit of society far more important than individual benefit, facilitated by using basically same language and writing 5. Final recognition that inherent human selfishness is unavoidable and was accomodated to political reality within the utopic ideology of communism 6. Huge population

The West sees China with 2 fallacies: 1. Being the largest country ruled by CCP (noticed during Trump Admin they addressed China not as a country but as CCP CHINA), they still had the 70s cold War Red tide Marxist mentality. And that worries happen even to some ASEAN leaders even though we have Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos as members. 2. CCP above country constitutions (because of subtle interpretation that Constitution is the law of the land; and the CCP gives the power to the Connstitutions) gives discomfort to the West On "Check-and-Balance" .. without understanding Asian cultural values in "collective and relative freedom" (versus West individual rights and freedom), they are afraid of emperor style superpower.

@tonyseto5144

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree, china is much better without ccp, more prosperity, love china , not ccp love ccp , not china

Kishore Mabhubanni : 9/11 was a geopolitical gift to China *Kishore Mabhubanni in 20 years: Donald Trump was a geopolitical gift to China*

Afghanistan, Iraq and etc. That should be enough to understand what's what.

What makes the three crowns think they are the genius promoting beautiful nuclear subs in the region ? North korea and Iran have smarter move to promote beautiful nuclear subs with nuclear missiles to surround America. It would be worst nightmare than cubian nuclear missile crisis during John F. Kennedy's time. The three crowns may have a choice, do it or simply abandon it.

@laurencelim5078

2 жыл бұрын

You mean CLOWN

@johnleong4807

2 жыл бұрын

Clown would be technically inclined.

Kishore is so right

Don’t just ask what China should do for its neighbors. The south-east Asians are lucky to have China as their neighbor. You only need to look at the nations as US’s neighbors in the Central America. Do you wish to be one of the migrants wanting to get into USA only end up with losing their children? If not, you should be thankful to have China as your neighbor. The coordinator of this program is biased. Chinese respect those who not only criticize others but also themselves based upon the same standards.

@leehobson1220

2 жыл бұрын

I just looked at your profile and realized that you are more than likely Chinese (because of your subscriptions)....Now I understand that your comment is probably propaganda and nationalists indoctrination inspired...Im sorry for the lobotomy that you have received from the CCP and hopefully one day you can open your eyes and mind to the terrible atrocities that the CCP continues to commit. Please tell my amazing neighbors...stop killing my people! Shi shi

The classical role of government is to tax away economic rents and use it to lower the cost of production. This is done through subsidies for such things as public infrastructure, education, and health care, not raising the prices through monopolistic privatization. The problem with economics as it is understood in America, is that there is no distinction between wealth production and wealth extraction. Production of goods and services speaks for itself, but monopolies and the banks (FIRE, finance, insurance, and real estate) extract what is called economic rent. The free market Adam Smith talked about is free FROM economic rent, not free FOR economic rent. This is Chinese Economic Policy as opposed to American Financial Capitalism favoring the rentier class, and it is what the conflict is really all about. American democracy is entirely theatrical with the public will having no more effect than Chinese public will on the Chinese Communist Party. If the US was a democracy, we would have a decent minimum wage, public health care, free education, parental leave, and gun control, to name a few, all by popular demand.

Living with rising dragon is difficult but not 1% as diifcult as living in south america next to a man child

OK... 🙋‍♂👋👏 This NUS-Yale School is now to be disbanded... unilaterally by NUS - in a sudden announcement & much decry... (reason is due to lack of funding - ie also too expensive fees paying to Yale). Please confirm if this is true. 🙋‍♂☝👏

@medialcanthus9681

2 жыл бұрын

Has it got anything to do with Alfian Sa'at and the course Dissent and resistance in Singapore?

As an American watching this it feels like the moderator is trying to drive the conversation toward a US nationalist perspective which is really off-putting. I came here for insights to the actual geopolitics of China & got what could pass for a dry comedy mocking the irrationality of US international politics.

Good information 👍👍👍

It would be good if China can normalize world order , not basing on " Might is Right " ...

The moderator is behaving like a BBC, cnn, etc media interviewer.. Full of preconceived, or western brainwashed view.

The premise that China is a quarrelsome neighbour, and has disputes with many of its neighbours is flawed. It is a very big country, so has many countries as neighbours. For a comparison, India has strained relations with most of its neighbours. It belligerently swallowed Sikkim with nary a protest from the world community and the self appointed protectors of the world order. Needless to say, it has gone to war many times with Pakistan before. Its neighbour to the South, Sri Lanka prefers to be more friendly with distant China. It is not exactly great friends with Nepal either, which it blockaded in recent times. Bhutan is completely under the knuckle of India - its foreign policy direction is decided by India. Which neighbour of China has been blockaded before by China or has its foreign policy directed by China?

@eventhorizon1

2 жыл бұрын

Bhutan and Nepal offered to join the Indian union, but was turned down. There is more cultural unity with most neighbours with exception of Pakistan. China went to war with vietnam and occupied Tibet illegally… india on the other hand was divided into 3. Of you look back into history over 1000 years it was india or China which dominated in terms of GDP. Now is the time of China, in another 100 year it will be india. China I think will become more brutal once they establish themselves as a superpower because they have expansionist tendencies. There is much grief in store for SEA, Japan and Australia. A war in the near future is inevitable.

Why does the west provoke frequently nowadays China? Since decades Chinese hard working has been sharing the pie, which has been mostly possessed by the west. Frustration and anxiety are dramatically increased there in the western mindset.

The world's fate is depending on the leaders it have. It is clear china have the right leaders to take care of the environment, the people at home and afar. Let them continue doing their good work, support them by participating in developing the world. Otherwise you will have more Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and now Kazastan coming.

Illustrated clearly from this panel, west and east are on totally different pages.

We indian love super power China

@bravoalpha1394

2 жыл бұрын

But ur government is going in opposite direction by becoming part of Alliance wd Australia, Japan nd us. It could b better india should join china nd Pakistan to make region most safe nd prosperous

@biggdaddyy

Жыл бұрын

@@bravoalpha1394 first ask your government to buzz off from our borders.

Too, bad the Chinese are just good, just like they are the model minority in the US, they are the model majority of the world, and man, they are industrious.

The US didn't mind China becoming the manufacturer of the world as the US is the major consumer but the US did not see China becoming also a military industry that what make the US think again because the US military industry call the shot in everything the government do, no matter which party in charge, China doesn't need a war to sell it weapons they just sell them cheaper and doesn't need the Dollar as payment it needs minerals, same with Russia they don't sell their oil and Gas for dollar they take the Euro and the US can't threaten them with war all the US does is trying to cause some fear of Russia invasion and all that BS of the past, The Dollar won't be the reserve currency in the long run, as other countries start dumping the reserve the US can't threaten them openly as they just shout bully, bully do this to Russia or China.

@jacklouie8096

11 ай бұрын

the. US made China have to defend themself

🤫👉... THE END OF CUCU EGGS...👈😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

I viewed this video a few months ago, at the time, I felt the moderator’s comments were a bit odd at a number of occasions. I viewed it again today. Clearly, the moderator is a China hawk (perhaps a mild one) or at least sympathetic to the prevailing western narrative towards China, i.e. China is unquestionably a bad actor, it has to be feared, it is the source of all evils. At one point of the discussion, the moderator derided Kishore “I don’t think I can make you say anything bad about China this evening”. Kishore was perhaps too polite to push back on that comment. In spite of the obvious impartiality of the moderator, the panel shared some very thoughtful views. Kudos!

These experts should advice countries in this region if we need to choose, if not, then how do we navigate between the TWO DEVILS; and not tell us we have one DEVIL and one ‘PEACEFUL DRAGON!

Got to love the thumbnail. It implies China will rise above the US and be heading in the right way

Panelists were all brilliant and well informed. The moderator seemed lacking in knowledge or biased rather. At the very least he is easily the least informed among them regarding this topic.

After the illegal bombing of Lybia, Yugoslavia, Irak etc… and we still talking about “respect for internal rules”.

AKUS is just paying tribute to America war industrial complex. It will never serve any purpose but endanger the peaceful life of Aussi. Imagine one hypersonic nuclear missile fired to Australia resulting in a new national anthem - Sayanora good day mate.

US Pacific Fleet is standing by. Intellectual property and the list goes on.

I think the western countries know that the 21 st. century belong to Asia. Most of the Asian countries will be prosperous and technologically advance so to stop this you have to create wars. The western countries can sell weapons and cause widespread destruction of the countries... Make Asian countries dependent on western countries for everything. Better approach is western and eastern countries should cooperate each other for the common good...peace, prosperity and prevent climate change of the world. I think the western countries will continue to provoke until wars happen. I will pray for peace.

Are you suggesting, implying that china, China or whatever name or form you wish to call it came into existence on this earth out of the blue, or being becoming into being out of some rock somewhere. The title of this talk itself is plain Nonsence.

This moderator is totally biased. He should be sacked.

Very bogus moderator. He cannot hide his Sonophobia.

I thought the approach to China by the West and her lapdogs is rather funny, as China never claimed to want to become a super power which seems to be assigned to her by all these speech makers. So why is there a fear of what China will be in the next generation? India or at least some of her leaders have openly stated that India would be a super power and her behavior against her own Muslims large minority did not create aby wave in the West. It is obvious that the West is just imagining what China would be in the future and this comes about just because they are unable to compete notwithstanding all the claims that China stole their imagination !

Seems like this moderator's job is to downplay the positives offered by the other participants. Is he a moderator or a debater from the other side.

The way Kishore schooled the bias westerners is just fantastic!

This moderator is rubbish. He is not interested in the truth.

It’s only been a week . . . And this hasn’t aged well LOL

@maddoo23

2 жыл бұрын

In what way?

How is it repressive at home China?

We need threat and enemies to justify the military-industry

Peaceful? From the 9-Line to Tibet & beyond, brutal!

The rocks the host spoken about is under dispute. They are not Japanese rocks!

I am sick of this kind of topics, and obvious attempts to sway public opinions to align with US anti China policy. Let's

Us put world dangerous place

China is not an aggressive dragon?? Wow it's hilarious that Yale would invite such incompetent guests

@jacklouie8096

11 ай бұрын

He is the most uneducaded

The moderator is bias

India is not forgotten backstab by China in 1962 and even provocation at the border at present and also China never supported India and even opposed at international forums and expecting India is not my side is really horrible. all mess you do and ask others to take some mud from me

Its all fun and games until them Chinese built robot's come racing in!!

我还以为这样的讨论起码可以做到客观。

China is great country, without communist, the life is be much better, much prosperity, much peaceful with their neighbors and the rest of the world. that what i seen for those yrs live in china

@nmew6926

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. India today with its vibrant democracy is also much better than China

Our dear peasant Kishore, our payments will keep coming, and you keep up this notion about us. Energy crisis, population crisis, security crisis, debt crisis, we are doomed, at least some paid off scholars can keep the façade up and going for a while.

@yenphung8809

2 жыл бұрын

In case you don't know about Singapore, the country Kishore is from, corruptions are no no. Hu Jintao, how much did the US paid you for your service?

@nancytay648

2 жыл бұрын

WHO IS E PROVOCATOR N CONTROLLER OF CHINA*S RISE THEN BACKSTAB N ACCUSE CHINA OF BEING AN AGGRESSOR...

I have give kudos to the moderator and the guests. Great questions and good answers were exchanged.

First ÷ remove America as the hegemony Second - Let the world be a multilateralized community

孙子曰:昔之善战者，先为不可胜，以待敌之可胜。 不可胜在己，可胜在敌。 故善战者，能为不可胜，不能使敌之必可胜。 故曰:胜可知，而不可为。 不可胜者，守也；可胜者，攻也。 守则不足，攻则有余。 善守者藏于九地之下，善攻者动于九天之上，故能自保而全胜也。

China andAmerica,who is the snake charmer?😱😱🤣🤣

What's with the moderator? Rather unprofessional to keep trying to impose his bias. "I can't get you to say anything negative about China"