A Neolithic Guitar?

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What y'all reckon, can we accept my petition to ban the name that shall not be named?
Let me know what you think of the video in the comments. I'd love to hear your feedback on whether you'd have an instrument made from this!
Can't wait to show you the finished result. Going to do another one of these soon, requests in the comments!
Love,
Daisy
Here's the article about the oak I gathered some resources from: www.adamsonandlow.com/bog_oak/
My tool wall:
Fret cutters: stewmac.sjv.io/0JWGgJ
Fret tang nippers: stewmac.sjv.io/RyB0xg
Fret hammer: stewmac.sjv.io/21j0E0
Mini plane (couldn't find my exact one but this is a good similar): stewmac.sjv.io/EK9dmW
Lie Nielsen No. 5: www.lie-nielsen.com/products/...
Lie Nielsen No. 7: www.lie-nielsen.com/products/...
Fretboard radius: stewmac.sjv.io/QyJd5a
Ruler small: stewmac.sjv.io/B0xdrB
Fret scale: stewmac.sjv.io/AWmM9K
Brace chisel: stewmac.sjv.io/JzJdG2
Straight edge: stewmac.sjv.io/b3zygb
My website: www.tempestguitars.com
My instagram: / daisy_tempest
Thanks so much for watching and I will see you all very soon!

Пікірлер: 179

  • @barnett25
    @barnett2511 ай бұрын

    Someone needs to commission you to build a guitar with 5k year old Neolithic Black Oak back and sides, 3k year old fossilized sitka spruce top (as seen on Driftwood Guitars), and 42K year old kauri neck (as seen on Crimson Guitars). While you are at it have someone make up some tuner buttons from meteoric iron, make dot marker inlays from ammolite fossil from canada, and make a nut and saddle from mammoth ivory. It would be the oldest guitar on earth.

  • @YegresAL

    @YegresAL

    11 ай бұрын

    It's good idea until one check timeline of mentioned builds )))) With all respect and love to Chris and Ben....

  • @barnett25

    @barnett25

    11 ай бұрын

    @@YegresAL They are just trying to add even more age to their builds

  • @jamesburge1983

    @jamesburge1983

    10 ай бұрын

    I Love this idea, but I just gotta add a little to either the 'Ick factor' or the 'Cool factor'. Hide glue from frozen Mammoths, and Tung Oil finish recovered ancient Chinese Junks.

  • @dwaitch

    @dwaitch

    5 ай бұрын

    Strings might be tricky!

  • @MattTee1975
    @MattTee197511 ай бұрын

    Bog oak is an awesome name. It reminds me of whisky (whiskey) and mummified Iron Age Irish people. It's metal.

  • @DaisyTempest

    @DaisyTempest

    11 ай бұрын

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  • @jeffwhitehead7990

    @jeffwhitehead7990

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DaisyTempest Is that Welsh?

  • @VarionJimmy

    @VarionJimmy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DaisyTempest😂 I agree with you. On the name that is. (Well, maybe also on what you wrote.)

  • @stoatystoat174

    @stoatystoat174

    11 ай бұрын

    That reminds me of whisky too @@DaisyTempest

  • @Pest789

    @Pest789

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@jeffwhitehead7990It certainly looks like Welsh.

  • @thewarpsyrhead
    @thewarpsyrhead11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the simultaneous history, geological, and woodworking lessons!

  • @scottakam
    @scottakam11 ай бұрын

    Interesting. As a fossil myself, I appreciate you giving fossils proper respect!

  • @woodworkingandepoxy643

    @woodworkingandepoxy643

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 awesome

  • @stuarthossack7906
    @stuarthossack790611 ай бұрын

    Oak contains acetic acid, hence the vinegar smell. You can make a wood dye used for ebonising wood by getting a jar, putting in some wire wool and submerging it in vinegar (acetic acid). This makes iron acetate. The acetic acid in the oak plus iron salts in the soil will eventually combine to stain the wood. I used the wire wool and vinegar trick to stain some newish oak beams in my house, rather than use modern stains. Also known as ferric/ferrous acetate

  • @jeffhughes6167
    @jeffhughes616711 ай бұрын

    You are such an inspiration to watch, keep up your beautiful work and stunning personality. I kind of like the BogOak term makes it seem like a buried treasure, dug up from history for a gift to your talented hand to create a musical piece of art.

  • @Furtheronmusic
    @Furtheronmusic11 ай бұрын

    I think the table is in Rochester Cathedral now we went to see it a little while ago. It's remarkable to see.

  • @Handforgeddreams41
    @Handforgeddreams4111 ай бұрын

    Your history lesson, as well as your craftsmanship, are top-notch. I can't wait to see this one finished.

  • @chrisjones6289
    @chrisjones628911 ай бұрын

    Amazing looking piece. Love the colour of the ... Oak.

  • @capnskustomworks
    @capnskustomworks11 ай бұрын

    I love the name “bog oak”!!! That’s a beautiful looking piece, I’m sure it’ll turn out awesome!

  • @robertnewell5057
    @robertnewell505710 ай бұрын

    Great content as always. I made a couple with this stuff following some suggestions from Rosie H, and it is excellent. I made one as a 65th birthday present for a friend who actually lives in the Fens. If you are monitoring, am I right to remember you did a YT on up and downcut spirals for rosettes, etc. Cannot find it anywhere. Cheers. Oh, and it should always be called bog oak or fenland bog oak. Other names (e.g. black fenland oak, etc) should be viewed with suspicion and the sellers questioned closely. It is sometimes modern oak which has been treated. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't thousands of years old, and I think there is an attempt to pass it off.

  • @CathodeRayNipplez
    @CathodeRayNipplez11 ай бұрын

    For a woodworker you make a pretty good biology history teacher 😀

  • @JusticeConstantine
    @JusticeConstantine11 ай бұрын

    Great video Daisy on the Royal Fenland Oak, Fossilised Oak or Neolithic Black Oak. Before you send the guitar off to your client, can you make a video of how the guitar sounds when you finished making it?

  • @Hardscrabblevt
    @Hardscrabblevt11 ай бұрын

    Fabulous video. Love hearing from you!

  • @Elshadyrian
    @Elshadyrian11 ай бұрын

    Another enjoyable and informative video😀

  • @padders1068
    @padders106811 ай бұрын

    Daisy, thanks for educating, entertaining and for sharing! ❤

  • @bearthompson6506
    @bearthompson650611 ай бұрын

    Very cool! I hope we get to see and hear the finished guitar!

  • @JoDoDesigns2011
    @JoDoDesigns201111 ай бұрын

    I can't wait to see and hear the finished product, and always enjoy hearing your voice, talking and explaining something. 😊❤

  • @billsandrelli957
    @billsandrelli95711 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the lesson I can't wait to hear it's wonderful sound.

  • @ldswan9music
    @ldswan9music11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this information. The guitar looks great.

  • @RaccoonHenry
    @RaccoonHenry11 ай бұрын

    looks great so far!! I wish I could own an instrument that cool!!

  • @RPM.Belfast
    @RPM.Belfast9 ай бұрын

    What a great channel, just watched a few vids- great work, cool personality-super inspiring!

  • @mitjamitjaj.5945
    @mitjamitjaj.594511 ай бұрын

    I'm really looking forward to see the finished guitar.... it looks wonderful... and of course hear how it sounds. Thanks for sharing your work with us.

  • @shadwellsong
    @shadwellsong11 ай бұрын

    such a joy, I so enjoy your videos. beautiful bog oak. LOL

  • @edyuen5363
    @edyuen536311 ай бұрын

    Fascinating, never heard of this type of lumber until you spoke about it. :) As for 'fossils' deserving better, this 'living fossil' is very appreciative of your sentiment... :D

  • @danandratis
    @danandratis11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the lesson again Daisy! - Cheers from Canada

  • @MichaelBuilds
    @MichaelBuilds11 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed that lesson very much ☺️

  • @walterhambrick8705
    @walterhambrick870511 ай бұрын

    That will be a gorgeous guitar!

  • @rrrosecarbinela
    @rrrosecarbinela11 ай бұрын

    That is so cool.

  • @LackedMushroom0
    @LackedMushroom011 ай бұрын

    Great video! Now I know about Royal Fenland Oak/Fossilised Oak/Neolitic Black Oak, and where I should hide a body!

  • @j.t.2722
    @j.t.272211 ай бұрын

    I always enjoy watching your videos. You relay your thoughts and experiences in a positive manner. I for one am looking forward to the future video of this instrument’s completion. I know the voice of that instrument will be heavenly.

  • @randybecker7339
    @randybecker733911 ай бұрын

    Truly a lovely wood and I hope you post a video of the guitar's sound before delivery. And thanks for the lesson!

  • @lyricbread
    @lyricbread10 ай бұрын

    Gorgeous piece of wood. The contrast between that too and the oak is absolutely beautiful!

  • @TheTelblackwell
    @TheTelblackwell11 ай бұрын

    I'm glad I found your channel!I'd love to start making my own instruments, I'm thinking of building a stave snare drum.

  • @nolantaylor1760
    @nolantaylor176011 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with your signature enthusiasm and grace. On a more personal note, I would like to offer deepest gratitude for the way you have made woodworking and "working with your hands" inspirational. Hopefully many young people will see that woodworking and other crafts are as acceptable as "Bond Street" and other supposedly high faluting careers. You are my Guitar Hero Daisy Tempest!

  • @mattgibson6144
    @mattgibson614411 ай бұрын

    Great video about a timber I'd never heard of. So interested in hearing the tone once it's finished.

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo66811 ай бұрын

    Awesome stuff as always Daisy. I think there is a kind of pine from Canada/North America where they float the logs down rivers into sea bays etc. These particular logs ended up sinking and sitting on the bottom of the sea for decades. Not sure what they used them for though. Interested to hear what this guitar sounds like.

  • @walterrider9600
    @walterrider960011 ай бұрын

    thank you great bog oak

  • @mark.guitar
    @mark.guitar11 ай бұрын

    The name can just bog off... Nice looking instrument Daisy.

  • @johnduffy6546
    @johnduffy654611 ай бұрын

    What an incredible video! I learned so much. Please show us the finished guitar when you get it done. I would LOVE to hear it resonate. That is some beautiful wood for sure.

  • @johnford7847
    @johnford784711 ай бұрын

    Interesting. I trust you'll share the sound of the instrument once completed.

  • @cliffordhallam3270
    @cliffordhallam327011 ай бұрын

    If you want to get rid of a body DON’T throw it in a bog!! There are instances where bodies have been recovered centuries after disposal very well preserved! As a luthier you’re outstanding! As a murderer. . . Well, all I can say is ‘don’t give up the day job’.

  • @James-ou9hc
    @James-ou9hc11 ай бұрын

    Great job Teach 😊

  • @BlainSlackJaw
    @BlainSlackJaw11 ай бұрын

    That's a lovely looking bog oak guitar.

  • @LaverneLovatt
    @LaverneLovatt11 ай бұрын

    For you to explain it as well as you just did you understand the subject much better than your humility allows you to say. A very good explanation

  • @Brosk1111
    @Brosk111111 ай бұрын

    Love your content. Also im from the fens.😊

  • @keestoft250
    @keestoft25011 ай бұрын

    ... love that bog-loony spruce guitar you're making....

  • @andyfarmer759
    @andyfarmer75911 ай бұрын

    I am not a guitar maker, nor do I think I will ever have the skills or patience to make one. I watch your videos to pick up transferable woodwork skills. I enjoyed this video fr the history lesson and your fantastic sense of humour, Thank you, keep it coming.

  • @davemiller6055
    @davemiller605511 ай бұрын

    Daisy Tempest. The worlds most charming luthier.

  • @jonathansoliano9867
    @jonathansoliano986710 ай бұрын

    i love guitar❤❤❤

  • @MordantMagic
    @MordantMagic8 ай бұрын

    "Bog Oak" is also used as a material for making tobacco pipes. Pipe makers call it "Morta" so there's a fourth marketing option for you! It's prized for its high tolerance to heat and lack of adding any woody flavor. So in addition to sonic and aesthetic benefits, you can have a rare guitar that can be smoked. In seriousness though, another dense hard wood used in the same application that looks very nice is briar, but it being so knotty and coming in burls usually no bigger than a melon, it wouldn't work for any use other than decoration on guitars. A straight grain briar could make a very cool headstock veneer or wood pickguard though. Or decorate a fretboard.

  • @jamescardoness3037
    @jamescardoness30375 ай бұрын

    Daisy here in Ireland we have that (bog) oak of which we turn up loads I have a garden full of it we usually make spoons or traditional thingymagigs and flog them to tourists ! we find it in the peat bog when we are taking the turf ( I know we shouldn't be digging it but it is by hand and hell what else do you do with a mountain ? the sheep have already caused the most damage over the last 300 years ) but the nicest wood of all when we find it in the bog is the native Irish Scots pine . Its about 3000 years old whereas the Irish oak is usually around 5000 years old. The pine tends to turn grey when exposed to the air whereas the oak as you demonstrate so well turns almost black. But once you cut into the old Scots pine even after 3000 years it leaves behind the grey and is a beautiful vibrant red with a smell that resembles rosewood but much sweeter, it is beautiful wood to work with completely different to modern Scots Pine lumber. Managed to get enough Bog Scots pine gathered up for a table with an Irish oak top as soon as I remember how to make one now where have I put my saw ?

  • @physixtential
    @physixtential11 ай бұрын

    I think you are my new favorite person.

  • @wbfaulk
    @wbfaulk6 ай бұрын

    The black color used to be used to make ink. People would harvest oak galls (which are abnormal growths on oak trees) and extract gallotannic acid from them (by grinding, boiling, or fermenting) and then combine that with ferric sulfate (obtained by reacting iron with acid) to produce "iron gall ink". It was used extensively from the classical era through the beginning of the 20th century. You can still get it, but it's largely been supplanted by synthesized dye and pigment inks.

  • @logtothebase2
    @logtothebase211 ай бұрын

    It would be great to see some more, finished or close to completed instruments

  • @JalopyTechnology
    @JalopyTechnology11 ай бұрын

    Here in the US there is a town called Black Oak in Arkansas...and a band with the same name. Since the town is located along the ancient riverbed of the Mississippi River perhaps the town is named after a similar wood?

  • @tjkeeling
    @tjkeeling11 ай бұрын

    Daisy, you talk as fast as us Texan's talk slow. Greeting from Plano, Texas !! Can't wait to see it progress....

  • @grantman1148
    @grantman114811 ай бұрын

    Nothing wrong with saying bog oak...at least not on this side of the Pond. 🙂 Your video is charming as always. Love your humor and animations as well as your knowledge and your handiwork. I'm sure you're aware of sinker mahogany from Central America. I wonder how that would sound under your hands? Keep up the great channel, Daisy. You're awesome.

  • @tiki_trash

    @tiki_trash

    11 ай бұрын

    I've heard of some crazy old bog wood from New Zealand. I don't remember the name of the tree, but they get huge like redwoods.

  • @jonathansoliano9867
    @jonathansoliano986710 ай бұрын

    new subscriber from philippines❤❤❤

  • @barriepotter3753
    @barriepotter375311 ай бұрын

    Call me picky, but fossilised means turned to stone, and this is still wonderfully wood!

  • @woodworkingandepoxy643

    @woodworkingandepoxy643

    9 ай бұрын

    Might as well be fossilized. It's hard as hell anyway

  • @oatnoid
    @oatnoid11 ай бұрын

    Subscribed.

  • @stephen3073
    @stephen307310 ай бұрын

    I had a pretty vivid dream not long ago, in which I was making a guitar with some of this neolithic oak, and an ancient Sitka top from Alaska. I pictured an oak neck and fingerboard also, into which I inlaid a scene with a band of bog-flecked Neanderthal gentlemen, bristling with stone tipped spears, attempting to take down an enraged mammoth, who had pinned one of the early humans underfoot. Had the dream become real, I would have used fossilized ivory for inlay elements, nut, saddle, tuner buttons, and bridge pins to complete the theme. Unfortunately, the ancient Sitka is now sold out, gone, and I only had one chance to build with it. My shop partner bought four sets of that ancient Sitka, but he will not part with one of them under pain of death; so I guess my dream will never come true. Nevertheless, I do intend to score a couple sets of neolithic oak to build with. It's beautiful stuff, and I may still get to do that mammoth hunt inlay. Thanks for another great video, Daisy.

  • @pblockley
    @pblockley11 ай бұрын

    Neolithic Oak ❤

  • @BettyBoolean
    @BettyBoolean11 ай бұрын

    when I was a student the head of department ( at the polytechnic for shame! ) was named Peter Marsh and when a bogman was found locally and put in Manchester University Museum they called him Pete Marsh so off course we all called the dept head bogman from then on . . .

  • @didndido3638
    @didndido363811 ай бұрын

    Bog Oak!!! ..it's settled then.

  • @kevinronald4137
    @kevinronald413711 ай бұрын

    The burial chamber you show in your intro I believe is Pentre Ifan and is up on a hillside about 7 mls South of Cardigan West Wales. And of course famous peat bogs of old became coal seams. Brilliant work and is that guitar going to be 12 strings for sound would be awesome.

  • @timbeaton5045
    @timbeaton504511 ай бұрын

    Guessing that the Fe reaction in an acidic environment is pretty much what happens when you dissolve steel wool in vinegar, to create a liquid that can be used to "ebonise" certain woods. Watched a YT channel recently (can't remember the creator's name offhand) where he ebonised the whole fingerboard of an upright solid bass which was then sealed under a super glue finish, to give a really beautiful hardwearing fingerboard. A neat process. And i would LOVE to own this guitar, if i could but afford it!

  • @robbristow
    @robbristow10 ай бұрын

    In New Zealand Swamp Kauri is much prized, so perhaps Swamp Oak!

  • @alexleo37
    @alexleo3711 ай бұрын

    i'm also working a lot with "bog oak" :) what a phantastic species, i've pieces feom dark beown to absolute pitch black... coming from the ukraine and certified 3700- 4300yrs old...thanks, cheers and greetin gs from austria :)

  • @issuespunkrock
    @issuespunkrock11 ай бұрын

    I make bog oak here in Tennessee all the time. I use apple cider vinegar and steel wool 😃

  • @mikemedic450
    @mikemedic45011 ай бұрын

    It’s bog oak. A great name. Although quagmire quercus does have a certain ring to it.

  • @El_Couch_Potato
    @El_Couch_Potato11 ай бұрын

    Someone found fossilized sitka spruce in Alaska, and Driftwood is building a guitar with the top made out of that . Wonder how that would sound with the oak sides and back. Anyways, beautiful guitar and entraining video

  • @AndyCallaway
    @AndyCallaway11 ай бұрын

    So, for this beautiful wood, we can thank Pete and Anna Robic...

  • @PikkaBird
    @PikkaBird11 ай бұрын

    6:04 *Invasion of The Body Snatchers-shriek!*

  • @rockasaurus2842
    @rockasaurus284211 ай бұрын

    Lovely video! You mention rosewood when you talk about voicing, does the fossilized oak have a similar warmth then? Thanks!

  • @mikericciuti5996
    @mikericciuti599611 ай бұрын

    Well done! Bruce Hoadley would be proud

  • @paintnamer6403
    @paintnamer640311 ай бұрын

    BOG WOOD !!!

  • @paddyandhisguitar2831
    @paddyandhisguitar283111 ай бұрын

    Please please do a follow up when it’s finished, would love to hear the tone.

  • @0whitestone
    @0whitestone10 ай бұрын

    Bog oak sounds very similar to Sinker wood. I think that's a cool name for it, although I don't know if peat bog is any different to the bottom of a river or lake.

  • @opcdon1015
    @opcdon101511 ай бұрын

    "Ode to constipation" isn't a bad name either.

  • @dessex-yl1vo
    @dessex-yl1vo10 ай бұрын

    Very interesting, Daisy. Thank you. Is it hard to work with? Literally, harder?

  • @tgooding99
    @tgooding9911 ай бұрын

    Thats marvelous. I'd heard of it, but hadnt taken on board the story. Is it different to work with compared to contemporary wood?

  • @scorpion2nz
    @scorpion2nz11 ай бұрын

    Nothing wrong with calling it Bog Oak . Downunder here in New Zealand we have Swamp Kauri which is probably the equivalent . Theory is they were buried when what is now lake Taupo volcanically erupted

  • @philvale5724
    @philvale572411 ай бұрын

    Hi 👋, Very interesting, ---- Oak , as I have lived in the FenLands for around 3/4 years, I have known the farmers to plough the Fields one year, and next year, they have found a piece of BOG OAK come up, over the years I have used a lot of Rosewood-BlackWood-Ebony-, But never used BOG 😂 OAK, Alright, we are call it FOSSILISED OAK 😂, I am retired specialist joiner cabinet maker, I used to do work for Walker the organ building company in Brandon, and I have worked all done work for John Simpsons architects of London, and I have made furniture for two of the University, Cambridge, I wish you all the success for the future, I am now retired and living in France, Phil from the moulin France,

  • @losingfreedomisnofunFJB
    @losingfreedomisnofunFJB11 ай бұрын

    I would very much like to hear how this sounds next to a modern material guitar.

  • @jpavlvs
    @jpavlvs11 ай бұрын

    Had to look up Moon Spruce. Familiar with Sitka and Adirondack and Carpathian. Fossilized isn't the proper term. Mineralized I think is the word you're looking for. Beautiful guitar. Wish I had one.

  • @barrieflix

    @barrieflix

    11 ай бұрын

    Really? I've got a very rare Patrick James Eggle signature Faith bog oak + spruce that is a beautiful instrument that I never use and deserves a good home! Details on request.

  • @The_Lone_Badger
    @The_Lone_Badger11 ай бұрын

    What do you think about making your Tempest Logo from stone of the neolithic period on this one?

  • @newacct10
    @newacct109 ай бұрын

    I wanted to watch you make a guitar. There are plenty of wood experts on youtube, but not many guitar makers.

  • @snakezdewiggle6084
    @snakezdewiggle608410 ай бұрын

    Pete-Oak, prehistoric-oak, wet-oak, dark-moody-oak, responsibly sourced oak, Ochre-Oak (cos both are coloured by iron)

  • @ChapmanWW
    @ChapmanWW11 ай бұрын

    I live in the fens and at any moment we could be a puddle all over again.

  • @dlfabrications
    @dlfabrications11 ай бұрын

    Has anyone tried building a guitar with the same design features as a violin? What I mean by that is making the front or top out of a soft wood and the back out of hard wood then running a post from the saddle on the high pitch sting side to the back hard wood for the tremble and then making a bass bar glued to the top or front soft wood near the saddle on the low pitch strings for bass.🙂

  • @wbfaulk

    @wbfaulk

    6 ай бұрын

    Most acoustic guitars (of reasonable quality or better) do use hardwood sides and back and a softwood top. Some are built with arched tops (called archtop guitars), and some of those with arched backs, too. Guitar bracing is a big deal, and I think relatively few have straight back bracing any more, à la the violin bass bar. The guitars being built here are steel-string guitars, which need to resist far more torque than gut- or nylon-stringed violins do, requiring the bracing to be more significant. Archtop guitars are probably more akin to cellos. That said, while I'm sure someone has experimented with sound posts in guitars, it's definitely rare. I expect if it was an unmitigated improvement, it would be common, which implies there must be some drawback or just lack of improvement.

  • @tinkerebell3883
    @tinkerebell388311 ай бұрын

    6:00 she said it again :)

  • @kaiserruhsam
    @kaiserruhsam11 ай бұрын

    bog bog bog bog bog bog bog bog lovely bog wonderful bog

  • @ricker76er
    @ricker76er7 ай бұрын

    Wonderful video and instrument. FYI, it's not fossilized, it's just preserved. Fossils are stone, I don't think a stone guitar would sound very good. cheers!

  • @notsonominal
    @notsonominal11 ай бұрын

    #fossilsdeservebetter - haha love it!!

  • @stnwrd
    @stnwrd11 ай бұрын

    Was the wood soaked in fresh water or salt water?

  • @jsaurman
    @jsaurman11 ай бұрын

    How much does it cost per board foot? Or whatever the measurement is over there, board-meter?

  • @timbeaton5045
    @timbeaton504511 ай бұрын

    "Really, really VINTAGE oak" perhaps? 😁

  • @bernard832
    @bernard83211 ай бұрын

    To be fair, the mummies that have been found in peat bogs are called bog bodies.

  • @DaisyTempest

    @DaisyTempest

    11 ай бұрын

    I included a section about this then cut it out because I said the b word too much

  • @johngrant5749
    @johngrant574911 ай бұрын

    I was in Ely cathedral last week but did not see the table (edit removed March 2023)

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