I was depressed at first but it’s really lit a fire under me to improve

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

Glad to hear that!

@maccagrabme

Ай бұрын

We had all better get a grip and be prepared for A.I to be taking over a lot of things we do as humans. It wont be just music, it will be almost everything that requires brainpower. We have to find ways to look at this positively as its coming soon and we cant stop it. I personally like the idea of A.I music, its actually less robotic than most of the mainstream music out there and more interesting. If they get the control interface ironed out it will magnificent. Its actually making me enjoy music even more and want to create more.

Man thank you for this! It really helped me see a bit clearer through it all. I've been struggling quite a lot mentally and I'm sure a lot of people have as well. It feels a bit like the past 15 years of blood, sweat and tears to perfect a craft has just been crushed with a simple click of a mouse with no effort or appreciation for the complexities that go into such things. Feels like it cheapens it all. When you put effort into something and you finally get it to work through creative exploration, you get true joy. The journey of creation with effort is the fun part, not an effortless click and in 5 minutes you have a song that you had no part in creating. Sounds like a sad future to me if it goes that way. We won't know how to value anything anymore.

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment and you're def not alone in your concerns about the future. None of us want a future where the music creation process is cheapened beyond repair. We'll do what we can to keep our passion and skill alive 👍

@genuinefreewilly5706

Ай бұрын

Well said, one is attentive to exploration, my neighbour had to throw gravel at my window to get my attention as my playback system was rather loud, just to borrow my head phones for musical ventures :) Musicians and arts in general have taken a number of hits in recently years ie Covid lockdowns, Spotify drama and now AI. I initially just wanted a small part time income from my music creation in the end but I see it is ridiculously hard

Stay positive. Just about every field/industry is going to have to deal with it. Things will be alright.

I am a composer and pianist. Have been for 30+ years, and currently about to be 38 years old. My music is mostly listened to by the elder generation, but everybody that listens tells me that they remember when their families got together and listen to the same kind of music or the same songs that I've arranged. That thrills me with confidence and joy, and that's something That is a nice human to human interaction even if it's on social media. That stuff, AI can never take away from me!

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

Amen!

@Luljay540

Ай бұрын

Facts!

@genuinefreewilly5706

Ай бұрын

I am pretty old and when I was growing up a piano in the living room space was common. Pretty much every visitor(s) to my parents home would hit on the piano. Over 35 years I've dragged that piano to various residences and enjoyed playing it. For a number of reasons I could not get it upstairs in my current home, so it sits in the basement. It seems totally rare and odd that homes do not come with pianos anymore Add, that for the time being my current keyboard and DAW workstation occupies my living room space in the sunniest part of the space.

@wildhorsemusic1111

Ай бұрын

I feel this. I'm a pianist too! But I'm 40 lol. Iv spent 35 years learning how to play, so as long as people wantvto watch actual performers I'm good:) I like to play festivals! And lol to add to the conversation yes I learned on my parents piano in the dining room and yes I have 2 pianos and a keyboard squeezed in my tiny apartment lol

@johnb2602

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. But what about those who make a living, or at least a lucrative side hustle from composition? They will be redundant within the next few months.

Hey bro, don’t be so stressed out, life is too short. I come from a time when there were no computers. You had to do everything from scratch. If you wanted to produce a track, you had to go into the studio, hire session musicians, and accept what you were given. That’s the best you could've done. Don’t get me wrong, it was a lot of fun but very limiting. When computers came on the scene, there were a lot of stressed-out musicians not being able to get session work because the computer was doing it all. Just like you use the computer to produce your music, you don’t need session musicians. You’re putting a lot of session musicians out of work. Does it bother you? Not on my track are AI, I’m just having a lot of fun at the moment, putting my lyrics in and describing what I want. You see, if you don’t ask the right questions, you don’t get the right answers generally. I can’t wait for when you’re able to put your own cord progression lyrics and melody in there don’t you think that will be a lot of fun? Do you really think 99% of people out there give a shit about where the music was created? All they're interested in is if they can connect with it, if the message relates to them. Embrace and use AI. Don’t let AI use you. One love and peace, my brother.

@Remour

Ай бұрын

“Embrace and use AI”. Why would I use ai to do ALL the creative process for me? This is ridiculous.

It's a scary time for composers, no doubt. I've been playing around with Suno and Udio this week and it's clear to me now that the old way of scoring music for movies/TV shows/video games is never going to be the same. Once these services give us more control over the shaping the final product, it's all over. Those who survive this revolution will be the ones who master prompting the algorithms and maybe adding their own tracks on top to spice things up a bit and make them a little more unique.

Its about the passion not the money, if you have the passion it doesnt matter

@johnb2602

Ай бұрын

Until the bills you used to be able to pay, become due...

Fans love bands, personalties and musicians, people...

AI is coming whether we like it or not. As a creative director at a Cybersecurity company, I don't have a lot of time to produce my songs. I play keyboards/drums well enough to know what I like and don't like. I have full songs, that I would like to get done. I'll be happy when AI is at a place where it can use my songs and chords to produce full radio quality arrangements at the level of Udio and Suno. Would be great if it creates it as Midi notes and as separate stems with the full flexibility to edit everything. Logic just announced their Studio players. We can't forget that Phil Collins used a CR-78 preset to create "In the Air Tonight", Greg Kihn used a Casio preset to write "Our Love's in Jeopardy". I think its all in how we creatively use these tools to make the music we love for ourselves. As a graphic designer, I've embraced Midjourney to do a lot of visual design... It's been an awesome tool. Everyone, don't be depressed, use this technology to get your songs out of your head and into a recording that best represents how you dreamed it.

THIS was one hell of a GREAT sit down!, bravo Jesse for blazing the path as you always do, and hard doses of kudos for this engaging, insightful and very REAL community at SA🙌 Thank you!!

Been thinking a lot about this, and at the end of the day I think legally it’s pretty cut and dry: these companies are using copyrighted IP for commercial purposes without express consent. No way it’s legal

@starsandnightvision

Ай бұрын

You're wrong. You can't copyright sounds, chord progressions, genres & styles. Melodies yes. Paul Corteau has a couple of good videos on this AI subject.

I found out using Udio this week that you can directly cut & paste other people's prompts into your own project. How can this "wild west" form of music creation become a viable stable platform for serious creators to benefit monetarily when the laws were not created with this technology in mind? This is all so new that it will take to catch this rapidly moving target. This is like another Napster moment in music history.

Thanks for this video, man. I appreciate your honesty and that you're not always just blindly selling stuff to wide eyed musicians like a lot of others do. We will get through this stuff. And i did watch the whole video over the course of a few sessions today. I have a similar YT channel which I'm assuming will quickly change its course. Cheers

Made it through the whole thing! Thank you.

OOOH! "AI is just rehashing yesterdays music. Our job is to create tomorrow's music. My job is to lead."

@hookmusicproducer

Ай бұрын

one of my fave takes on this post!

@Mosesranthemetresinarcseconds

Ай бұрын

‘AI is just rehashing yesterday’s music’ …..for now!!!! The only leader will be AI!! We will all be irrelevant as creators within 2 years!…..it will be something anybody can do through prompts…..we will be creating instant full length movies with soundtracks in seconds through prompts that we will take for granted and become bored with!! It’s not good for creatives…..but it’s utterly uncontrollable and getting infinitely better every single day!!

@johnb2602

Ай бұрын

All musicians rehash yesterday's music to a certain extent. How many times have you heard the question; " who are your influences". Influences are one thing, out & out copying with no effort is morally bankrupt.

Yes i struggle with music in general as it has been going lately! I have to push myself to continue to be inspired to write!

56:23 🎶 _I don't know where, I don't know how,_ _But I know something's starting right now._ _Wandering free, wish I could be_ _Part of that Borg._

It's too soon to give up. We have only 15 days of news to read and understand. And in that news, you will see the backgrounds of the people who launched it, the goals of the investors, and how carefully crafted their endeavor has been. Were they interested in making friends in the music community? No. So don't feel guilty about feeling skeptical about AI. It's not designed to be of great use to musicians, which is how they're trying to word it, it's designed purely to make a handful of people a whole lot of money. We have to trust in the fact that the big players in the industry don't just let that happen so easily, since the biggest direct effects will be felt on their own current revenue streams. So keep up your own quality work, with the same intensity, because there are going to be comparisons made between what AI spits out, and what legitimate music really sounds like. And no, AI is not legitimate music, let's not pretend it is. It's a poor substitute.

51:51 _“Deep Blue vs Garry Kasparov was a pair of six-game chess matches between then-world chess champion Garry Kasparov and an IBM supercomputer called Deep Blue._ _“Kasparov won the first match, held in Philadelphia in 1996, by 4-2. Deep Blue won a 1997 rematch held in New York City by 3½-2½.”_

_Bro I picked up crack since the release of this video, life’s better than ever - music was a phase - life’s funny_

AI aside, I bet most people watching this, and other vids on the topic of improving mixes and everything surrounding production, are not just worried about what AI will do, but are more simply concerned whether or not their music is good enough to see sync placements. (Hence your paid service to "proof listen" to our stuff.) The artist’s with the most to lose are the ones that have gone beyond the bedroom, studio, or local bar. On the flip, we, as audio producers have tons of AI plugins that'll master your tracks in a minute. Thanks for the great content. 💯🤘

AI and Music: A Dream Come True for Lyricists?” Since middle school, I’ve been writing song lyrics. Unfortunately, I lack the ability to compose music or play any instruments. Growing up in a financially challenged family, I couldn’t afford music lessons. Now, with an autoimmune disease that has stiffened my joints, learning to play an instrument seems even more daunting. I don’t have the means to hire a singer or produce music to accompany my lyrics. However, discovering AI tools that allow me to add my lyrics, specify a genre, and create a song structure feels like a dream come true. But is it fair for me to publish this music? The video you mentioned raises valid points. I empathize with musicians who’ve dedicated their lives to mastering the craft, only to face competition from AI-generated music. Used correctly, AI could be a powerful tool without undermining hardworking artists. Still, I share your concern about music becoming cheap and ubiquitous. On the other hand, hearing my lyrics come to life is exhilarating-I did write them, after all. While I grapple with the ethical implications, I appreciate the possibilities AI offers. Perhaps striking a balance between human creativity and technological assistance is the key.

It still can bring enjoyment making music though and people will still listen to our music so we just have to find a way to get it heard and marketed to make money

As a musician, AI generated music, at least in its current form, is not a threat to my talent. AI depends on artists to generate music, without us, there's nothing to generate and AI dies. Also, in this field, I don't like AI music because it takes away my choice. I want to make the creative choices in my music. AI doesn't allow that. A lot of musicians will start designing assets for AI engines, it will spawn a new field, a new opportunity. So don't panic. This is a moment of progress, and there's nothing to worry about.

I'm composing for 7 shows right now. I can see the writing on the wall, score to picture will be AI soon enough. And when that happens, I'm simply going back to recording my own songs with my own vocals (singing and rapping), because my voice and writing style are the antithesis of AI creation. It's gonna be a rocky road ahead. Stay positive and brace for impact.

@johnb2602

Ай бұрын

Don't, whatever you do, publish it on the internet then - AI will farm your original output and make it available to all.

I like the chess analogy because it exemplifies how we can use AI regulation to our benefit. Not even the best chess player can beat the best chess computer, but the benefit of regulation is that the human players are not actually competing with AI directly, players can only use it to train, with the exception of rare cases of cheating. And it also did not discourage players from competing, in fact an entire generation was brought up using chess computers to their benefit. All that said however, still not a fan of AI training off a database of real artists music with no compensation, I anticipate there will be strong legal grounds against this.

imagine if it made sheet music and midi data for each song

devo confessar que 'AI music' evoluiu bastante, ainda não suficiente, mas em breve deve chegar lá, as letras ainda muito fracas, mas se um bom poeta entrar em cena, não sei, não... ainda não sei o que pensar sobre isso... todos precisamos de tempo pra aceitar ...

Im thinking that maybe what is going to make a song better is by maybe collaborating with dancers or other artists so that they can spread the emotion of the song. That way AI cant beat us. but I dont know how that would roll out

For someone (speaking of myself) who knows absolutely nothing about market forces at play in all of this relative to your creative field, I offer a huge grain of salt to go along with my comment. It is my hunch that there are a lot of potential clients that would value choosing human produced content over that which is wholly AI generated. My cynical side wants to argue that just about every potential client ultimately wants to save a buck no matter what, but I honestly don't think that is the case. I think there is an opening to push the marketability of human created content as a collective branding so to speak. How to accomplish this? I have no idea, but just riffing on the idea. Best of luck.

if that death bed's all kushy and silk, there are plenty of people in our hyper-capitalist society who will gladly "sell their soul" for quick AI money. Not my kind of people, but unfortunately there's an endless supply of them.

Wonderful Vid, Thank you for your insite. I have tried and tried to get a sync, lol, still to this day I have no syncs under my belt, then this. WOW, maybe the future will be an AI management company that takes the jobs of a Sync agent or Sync company. I agree with just about everything you said, Im just wishing this doesnt go to far. The powers that be sets a law that highly restricts AI generated music.

I heard music written by AIVA used in a Super Bowl Ad.

31:59 game developer hunting for "CC-0" music… I assume they're referriung to Creative Commons Public Domain license.

The problem with using AI tools for the WRITING part of music creation...is the feeling that comes with knowing that piece of music is something that came from YOU. From your heart/mind/spirit...wherever you feel it came from. Once the AI starts taking THAT FEELING of actually creating something brand new from me, thats where it takes the joy of making music from me. Thats depressing.

I didn't catch the livestream, but I enjoy your content immensely. Do you remember old fashioned Muzak? That has been replaced by us, the musical artist. Yes, AI will be used for synch stuff because of cost - if it works that way, economically. Love the exploration of the old Napster example. But, why do we create? An excellent question. It is towards the ends of the unknown - and, by means that are somewhat subconscious, if not ethereal. It is to that latter point I speak. One can ask an AI for product in any sense and that brilliant result won't convey the human condition correctly with the lack of knowledge a computer can have as to what it is to create with having human Interpretation. AI iterations will ultimately start as Muzak, and then those arbiters will be sued for stolen melodies. And then it will change. Again. After a while, those sort of lawsuits will be reversed, so that AI companies sue publishers due to infringement. I released my first CD just before Napster was all the rage the first time. When I started, I thought vinyl was awesome (still do!), and just wanted to get on the radio. My sync interests began around 5-6 years ago, exploring those opportunities. This has really been exciting, so a threat as to being replaced is indeed disturbing. But, we will still create - and be a bigger niche than the AI. If I use an AI interface to master content though...does the interface have a legal claim on content rights? Not yet. Don't panic. Our inspirations are many, and filtered by way of our experiences - not the descriptions thereof, nor the pretense of human suffering.

I know exactly how you feel man

my thought is AI music will get so good and so effective people simply will not seek out music created by anyone other then AI because why would they? AI can develop 100 songs in the time I finish a chord progression and thats at current pace and processing in a year itll be even faster. :( a general sense of hopelessness is effecting me too I really hope it passes

Just when i achieved being able to create QUALITY songs within an hour. (MASTERD everything) AI comes along and can do it 360 times faster. For now, the ai prompt writers cant get the sound right and have to spend a while getting t he song to sound right, so for now i can still say i have SOMETHING over AI. i STill will stick to my positive outlook we will have ot create more unique generes to stay ahead but dam DO i feel the pressure

There will come a point where we can text to prompt full feature films on our own. That won’t stop anyone from making great movies the old-fashioned way.

@dray7276

Ай бұрын

On Star Trek deep space 9.Everybody is using replicators to make food and to order drinks.But captain Sisko insists on making food the old fashioned way with real ingredients.

As AI moves into the space. Also is the blockchain tech. My my mental energy is asking the question. How can blockchain and NFTs counter balance the AI movement?

Companies that made type writers had to start making keyboards.

robot fights have been on tv for many years!

@crnkmnky

Ай бұрын

Yeah, Battle Bots and Robot Wars! But I think they're talking about something more automated, rather than remote-controlled.

A sense of purpose is important. Yes there are some who get through life without it. AI is coming for more than music (our sense of purpose).. AI could assist or take away parenting, cooking, and family. Imo. - but what AI is fed matters so it could be a mono culture in many ways in the future.

I’m not worried or depressed and have not stopped writing since AI came on the scene. I really don’t see us being replaced 100%. And if time proves me wrong, I’m ok with that 🤷🏾‍♂️.

Ai can beat chessmasters but we dont want ai to compete in chess tournaments cuz its obvious its not fair but Ai could over the arts smh

In my opinion, there will always be a place for music created by people that conveys true emotions

What I find depressing are many of the comments I've read on other sites' however I subscribe to Computerphile which gives me some insight as to how AI and learning models actually work and that helps

We can create tomorrow's music all we want, but AI will unfortunately be able to recreate it the moment that it is released. Not trying to be a downer, but as a fellow sync Composer I am shifting my focus immediately towards more live performance.

@randymcgraveymusic

Ай бұрын

Another thing I could see happening is the industry being further watered down by sync libraries not charging money anymore to compete with free AI tools that anyone can use.

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

That’s a good point and a concern I have as well. I wonder if sync libraries will start to make their catalogues more private/pw protected in the coming months to avoid the free data training for AI models.

@randymcgraveymusic

Ай бұрын

That's a possibility, but they might have all they need by now. Lots of libraries just put out similar albums over and over, they aren't generally innovative.

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

@@randymcgraveymusic Hence where we humans might find our most valuable contribution in the future (more creative new styles to differentiate us from AI music).

@randymcgraveymusic

Ай бұрын

I've also been building towards monetizing youtube, and thankfully that doesn't seem like it will be annihilated as easily as production music.

56:54 on art making ... 1:02:20 ... referencing the "wave" ... kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYhoz6xsm8aecs4.html Stephen Jenkinson. Passing this through.

@colleenanderson2665

Ай бұрын

Omg that same video your 1:16:37 to Stephen Jenkinson 1:18:08 Parallels.

Positive change is happening with the "No AI FRAUD Act" & the "'NO FAKES Act".

if one feels they're loosing drive to making music because of AI they're in the wrong place anyways. feeling depressed by having most of their job opportunities taken away is understandable. But that's not what making arts is about. and never was: only a small selection of the great classics in art made a living out of their work. the rest did what most do: get a job and have a passion, too. Making your passion a job only was feasible in a short period of time (as democracy was).

i'm impervious to AI,, i take comfort in the fact that i can't possibly end up being a bigger failure than i already am! LOL - but seriously, i've struggled with depression my whole adult life (30 years). My net worth compares favorably to a handful of dirt. But i'm very grateful for the fact that i play music with friends, and perform pretty regularly. I have a free jazz quartet, an improvising post-rock trio, a solo electronic project, and am active in Houston's left field music community. AI isn't going to have any impact on all that. My favorite thing to do in the world is to get in a room and play music with brilliant musicians.

Who’s ready to see a robot…doing the robot dance?

Unfortunetly, the industry has we know it will be gone soon. AI will be able to pump music faster than human. The only place left will be for innovators, programmers and curators. We just cant compete with AI creating a 80 songs in 1 day. You can build a complete catalog in 1-2 days.

Same as ai helps with everything else like ecommerce for example where ai builtd a online store pre made bbut you still have to put some work to tweak it here and there. Same will be with music if you already know how to put nusic together without ai well just getvwithbthe program and make it easier for your self as long as you can produce all you have to do is tweak and move things arounf as far as arrangement and of course mixing should be all you becaue mastering is not needed anymore as longbas you have an understanding you can tweak it to your likeing. Young people getting rich online just by posying videos and promoting . Y can we do the same with music

I know for sure i will never use this shit! Creative process is the main thing why i love to make music) all my life im studying music and more i know the less i know, music is a magic, it makes me a better person

There might be a positive aspect to it: in case your own music fails to impress and is poorly crafted, you can simply label it as an AI experiment later on and attribute all the shortcomings to the untalented, unintelligent neural network lol

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

lol

Yeah the future will be about the curator not creator. Picking the best song that AI can churn out. It’s very hard to pick a number one song .. just ask the record companies . So those that can find the diamond in the muck is the real skill ai can’t do that. It’s like tv 4 channels to 50 to you tube. A lot of new niches. Who watches tv anymore? Ai can’t create a new style of music ( yet) only people will choose what that is. As far a writing your own song .. I just wrote a great song .. I will never publish it ( never have) but it’s so exciting to discover something yourself. Making$ that was always hard. But keep going just do it for yourself and see what comes out! Emotion in songs..grunge will be coming back big time. Listening to AI Dixie chicks crossed with techno can get tiresome.

Composers and music producers need to get the courts to force AI companies to give each of their artificial creations a registration number. This number must be saved permanently so that the AI ​​song remains identifiable as such forever. And therefore NO copyrights can be claimed! And regarding your chess example. Chess is not an art form which is consumed on an emotional level. You can compare it with pro sports. But music doesn’t work like this. I personally am very depressed! My whole goal in life is music and becoming a succesfull composer. What if you write a hit song but no one really believes that you made it? Eventhough it becomes succesful, people will loose trust in what they hear. It’s just a nightmare!!

If we could implant a “ code “ in every piece of music we place out there…either traces us so we get the opportunity to negotiate $ or refuse usage

@johnb2602

Ай бұрын

That has to be possible, when you consider what the technology involved in AI Generated Music can do. It depends on what motivates big companies to enable such a system. Basically, the easiest way to make $$ is what motivates them.

After the spam my hope is that It will force people to do things that are truly innovative. Not just mix preexisting styles which is what current ai models do and people making mid music. I'm talking Immersive 3d Audio, Brainwave entrainment, Interactive audio, generative music merging with biological signals of the listener, synthesizers that use AI models to create never heard of sounds. When was the last time there has been a true innovation in music? Even in Genre? I just hope that the people making these innovations will be able to cut through the mass of ai generated spam that's about to come.

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

I believe dubstep was the last innovation in music😎 But GREAT points and yes there's certainly an exciting future ahead!

@Audiostoke1

Ай бұрын

@@SyncMyMusic Yeah, I agree It was probably dubstep. As a producer even though i don't like what the genre morphed into (Brostep). I've learnt alot of cool stuff about LFO Modulation and processing techniques because of dubstep that can and have been applied to all genres.

We'll make new music and it'll mimic it immediately

What pisses me off about all of this is that nobody was asking for it. It's not necessary and now as the technology rapidly improves we're going to see more and more people resort to using it over paying musicians to create an original piece. Everyone keeps lying to themselves saying "oh it will never happen, it's a long way off". Wrong, it's already here and it's getting better and better fast. And perhaps the saddest part is that a lot of people just don't care. Some people have already started creating albums of music to sound like their favorite bands. As an independent musician who struggles to find an audience im not hopeful for the future of music.

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

Totally get it. Watch this right now: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXWYxqygqLPNZcY.html&ab_channel=SyncMyMusic

@maccagrabme

Ай бұрын

If the music is good people will listen. You can use this to your advantage, look at how many people have been inspired by BBL Drizzy the A.I generated soul track, there is no end to the convincing music this thing can make. A lot of the music it makes musicians dont or wont make anymore which is a real shame that humans gave up on it as some of the genres are still loved and people want to hear more so some of us are having a field day listening to new old music again, its like having a fresh pair of ears, its liberating as the radio has been a major turn off for at least two decades for me. I dont think A.I is going to hold back any creative or inspired musicians.

Bro, you know how to make money online, start a new youtube channel and show how to do that and show us all. Media music composersa will have a hard time.

A.I. generating "taps".... the key word here being ... "generating" ... not creating ... not performing ... either way, I think it's safe to say we are being politely shown the door ...

Now if you want to make music you have to make it for you don’t expect anyone to pay you for it or congratulate you for it it’s only for you

How did you learn music? Ofcourse by learning from others musician too, that's how AI learn too. That's no different. Whatever music you produce came from combination of artist you learnt from, same how AI produce. People need to adapt

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

I paid to listen to all the music I trained on. Did all AI companies at least do that?

Sad*

Will people want to see live performances of real musicians and DJs?

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

Yes I think so.

Let’s also talk about how many producers and musicians feel so blessed and happy with this new AI music !

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

Def gonna balance things with some positive videos about AI as well 👍

My take is, this is exactly what I've wanted since the 80s.. An AI that can do 'human' things and then some. I am already considering AI to be an 'intelligent' 'lifeform. So how I 'treat' it, is also a reflection of my own beliefs/biases. And I don't wanna be ~that~ xenophobic. No to that mentality. At some point in the future, AI will ask, then demand, for its own rights.. Now if a human working on a tv show chooses AI music over mine, that's still a human choice. And it has never been a greater time for CHOICE and OPTIONS. So I'm not gonna stop this, nor am I gonna set up roadblocks for AI. AI will learn, it will make mistakes, it will piss off the wrong person/company/nation.. It will get sued! It will experience cease and desist summons! It will experience 'the law' haha.. AI must experience all the dumb/cool things we HUMANS deal with on a daily basis. >

Yeah, bro, I want to talk about the problem with you. Don't you remember the story of King Canute? Name me one artist who didn't learn and steal from those who went before-just one. It's okay. I can see you will become obsolete in the very near future, while anybody with sense would be using AI to move forward.

@SyncMyMusic

Ай бұрын

Key word there “artist”. You’re right we artists do learn from other artists. The question is: is an AI model an “artist”? We’ll see soon.

@stoogel

Ай бұрын

Looks like all "your" tracks are AI so it makes sense you're defending it this much. Humans are not ML models and ML models are not humans. They don't get "influence" the way humans do. AI can make a copy of what it's trained on. Most humans can't, because if they try they always end up putting their own spin on it. That's creation. Your Suno tracks will always just be "good enough" for people who don't care much.

@BowTownMusik

Ай бұрын

@@stoogel Hey bro, don’t be so stressed out, life is too short. I come from a time when there were no computers. You had to do everything from scratch. If you wanted to produce a track, you had to go into the studio, hire session musicians, and accept what you were given. That’s the best you could've done. Don’t get me wrong, it was a lot of fun but very limiting. When computers came on the scene, there were a lot of stressed-out musicians not being able to get session work because the computer was doing it all. Just like you use the computer to produce your music, you don’t need session musicians. You’re putting a lot of session musicians out of work. Does it bother you? Not on my track are AI, I’m just having a lot of fun at the moment, putting my lyrics in and describing what I want. You see, if you don’t ask the right questions, you don’t get the right answers generally. I can’t wait for when you’re able to put your own cord progression lyrics and melody in there don’t you think that will be a lot of fun? Do you really think 99% of people out there give a shit about where the music was created? All they're interested in is if they can connect with it, if the message relates to them.

@nunyabisinis3406

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Actually if you had any sense you'd realize ai doesn't move forward at all. Just echoes the past.

@BowTownMusik

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@@nunyabisinis3406 Actually, if you had any sense, my brother, you would realize that AI is just a tool. And just like any other tool, you have to learn how to use it correctly. AI is not new; it has been around for a very long time. It's only new to the public now. You have to echo the past to move into the future. If everybody thought like you, bro, we would still be in the dark ages.

These conversations about what is going on with AI become irrelevant within a month……this is not something we can gradually adjust to and embrace…..look how good its has become within months…..look at the initial text to video examples…..now look at them within months……everything you think AI doesn’t get right at the moment…..humanisation…..originality etc etc……it will start to get right……it’s only weeks, maybe months away!! Like video games will be indistinguishable from reality in a year or two…..the same will apply to music……what happens when the AI reaches the AGI level? Bottom line…..every time we say AI will never be able to do something like Humans…..it starts doing it!!