A look back at Image Comics' Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TMNT comics)

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For a long time, it was an unfinished, non-canon run. Since then, the story had two endings. Join us on this TMNT comics trip, from the reasons why the Turtles went to Image, to the way it finally got an official ending.
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A look back at Image Comics' Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TMNT comics)
00:00 Why Image?
02:23 Conception
04:07 First arc (Dragonlord)
06:21 Second arc (Puzorelli)
06:59 Third arc (Deathwatch/Shredder)
08:10 Fourth arc (Triceratons)
08:49 Final issues (Lady Shredder)
09:43 Becoming non-canon
10:37 Fan-made project
12:56 Urban Legends
14:35 Comparisons
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  • @RetconMedia
    @RetconMedia10 ай бұрын

    I actually worked pretty close with Gary on Urban Legends #24-26. Some of the original stuff in the scripts wouldn't have worked with Vol. 4 at all (one big thing in particular), but we were able to get everything on the right tracks.

  • @eduardoneves3070
    @eduardoneves30702 жыл бұрын

    So crazy. So 90s. It is almost like the writter was doing a satirical comedy of the turtles. But sure there are some creative decisions to find here

  • @tannerprice2018
    @tannerprice2018 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone else think Donnie nearly dying, having his carapace shattered and being rebuilt into a cyborg in this series was an inspiration for IDW? When Donnie got his shell busted by Bebop & Rocksteady and nearly died, so he got an artificial shell to replace the destroyed one?

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    If it was, they never said it. (I recently did research on that story).

  • @beardupbeerdown7355

    @beardupbeerdown7355

    Жыл бұрын

    And he's a soft shell turtle in Rise 😅

  • @batmenace15

    @batmenace15

    Жыл бұрын

    IDW handled the idea of Donnie (mostly) dying and coming back as a robot/cyborg better than Image

  • @jonathanjoestar6365

    @jonathanjoestar6365

    6 ай бұрын

    They put him in metalhead until his body healed in idw, in image his body was slowly healing and needed less and less of the armor

  • @MiggsFigs
    @MiggsFigs11 ай бұрын

    Man imagine if this comic was your first foray into the world of tmnt …

  • @vicvic889

    @vicvic889

    2 ай бұрын

    It was for me actually. I was born 1987

  • @side1981
    @side19812 жыл бұрын

    Raph being shredder was the best idea in that run

  • @tannerprice2018

    @tannerprice2018

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I could totally see either Raph or Leo becoming the Shredder at some point. Like, if it were years after the death, or at least defeat, of Oroku Saki, and the Turtles & Splinter needed to make a truce between the Foot and Hamato Clans, so one of the Turtles decided to join the Foot Clan, ride through the ranks, and eventually take up the mantle of the new Shredder.

  • @Kaden10

    @Kaden10

    7 ай бұрын

    Maybe then they could turn things around for both clans and they work to make the world a better place from the shadows.@@tannerprice2018

  • @tyronleung5276
    @tyronleung52762 жыл бұрын

    Big bang #10 with gallahad was a crossover explaining why the turtles wear the red mask

  • @TheTurtleNexus
    @TheTurtleNexus2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! Do you prefer videos this length, shorter or longer?

  • @IWonder....

    @IWonder....

    2 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the longer videos, but it doesn't really matter. Good content tho. I'm a big TMNT fan so when I seen another TMNT channel I subscribed immediately. I gotta support my Bros.

  • @alleycattandy2235

    @alleycattandy2235

    Жыл бұрын

    Your voice sounds extremely familiar?

  • @ARKHAM9558

    @ARKHAM9558

    Жыл бұрын

    Yo who was lady shredder

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ARKHAM9558 Some artificial intelligence from the Image Universe.

  • @lucasgibbs4050

    @lucasgibbs4050

    9 ай бұрын

    I actually met Frank Fosco in person at Knoxville Fanboy Expo. He gave me a TMNT Urban Legends comic, which he himself autographed.

  • @eduardoneves3070
    @eduardoneves30702 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the second ending published on idw, even with a lot of plot holes. Tang amaya is so convoluted and never mentioned in the original run, so the armor don makes more sense and natural to the story. We never saw what happened to leatherhead. Why leo and donny recovered his bodied, but the scarface and lost eye of ralph remains. I dont miss the strange romance between mike and sara i believe. Puzoreli never doing a final coup to recover shadow. Nevertheless a fun and crazy run. Thanks for this video, very nostalgic

  • @disneyboy3030

    @disneyboy3030

    9 ай бұрын

    I wonder what a combination of both endings would be like.

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 Жыл бұрын

    As a teen in the mid 2000s I grew up an animated Turtles fan and wanted to check out the series. The omnibus mirage content wasn't out and I would read about the insanity of the Image run. Sadly my comic shop only had Tales of TMNT and I had to settle for one shot random ass stories in it until IDW came around. By then I was almost in my 20s and couldn't afford issue to issue reading.

  • @Rose_Bride
    @Rose_Bride2 жыл бұрын

    _Yikes._ I have no experience with the Image comic run, but listening to this makes me feel like Image made the story so (unnecessarily) _convoluted._ And with a lot of loose ends that never got resolved. It also feels SO quintessentially 90's; i.e. dark for no other reason than to be "edgy." Don't get me wrong... I LOVE a good dark, mature story. But _this_ story sounded ALL OVER the place. These Turtles just seem like they could _never get a break._ They're either disfigured, depressed, or (in Donnie's case) walking corpses. A little unrelated, but what stands out to me here is that the creators went into this Image comic agreement with the goal of steering The Turtles AWAY from the kid friendly, pizza obsessed teens the 1987 series had pigeon-holed them into. So Laird's later decision to sell the rights of the _TMNT_ franchise to Viacom/Nickelodeon is just... REALLY bizarre to me. And disappointing. If they wanted to bring The Turtles back to their "darker" roots, WHY sell them to a media conglomerate that deals mostly in child friendly, G - PG rated programing? It seems like The Turtles just can't escape that 1987 type-casting, and I REALLY wish they could since they have some AMAZING stories to tell that probably will never be adapted due to being "too dark" for Nickelodeon.

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Peter Laird wanted to retire (it was just too much work). So that is why he decided to sell the franchise. He did his best at doing more mature stuff, with the 2003 show and the 2007 movie, but either the toy company was against it, or the critics found them too dark. So I guess probably felt like he couldn't win anyway. This story is SUPER 90s, in every aspect. It's an acquired taste really. Once you get past the initial arc, things get a little better (except for all the Image comics cameos). But it's not for everyone. It is easier to read in color (in my opinion), so if you ever want to give it a try, you can read TMNT: Urban Legends.

  • @hissignaturestudios6869

    @hissignaturestudios6869

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk if I agee with that. The 2003 and 2012 cartoons for me adapted stories (mostly) pretty faithfully, and the 2012 series had the perfect balance (imo) of cheesey 80's series comedy and dark comic book story telling, especially when you keep in mind the limitations of being on a kids network as you pointed out.

  • @kinglycrimson

    @kinglycrimson

    10 ай бұрын

    And then nick made last ronin

  • @hissignaturestudios6869
    @hissignaturestudios68692 жыл бұрын

    Hmm. Interesting. I didn't realize both endings kinda make the image run both canon and non-canon to the mirage universe (canon in that it could still sort of feasibly fit between vol. 2 and 4, but still sort of non-canon in the fact there are a few continuity errors and vol. 4 doesn't acknowledge anything from the image run. I also didn't know there were 2 endings, a fanmade one and an official one. I only knew about the official one from idw. I don't know, I kinda like the official one better, but they both sound great.

  • @BenDaresAll
    @BenDaresAll9 ай бұрын

    Gary Carlson was an engaging writer actually. It was a good read. I like the less depressing double death ending.

  • @lucasgibbs4050
    @lucasgibbs40509 ай бұрын

    My Life As A Turtle Robot

  • @santiagotello8747
    @santiagotello87474 ай бұрын

    Que buenos videos 👍

  • @thekiddencore9094
    @thekiddencore90942 жыл бұрын

    I love this run

  • @TMNTTHECONTINUITY
    @TMNTTHECONTINUITY Жыл бұрын

    They must do a series with this univerce first do these comics in animated form (Urban Legends only) and then do other things

  • @shadow-gr4iw

    @shadow-gr4iw

    9 ай бұрын

    Nahh they just need to fix this

  • @thekiddencore9094
    @thekiddencore9094 Жыл бұрын

    I really loved this story (the urben legends) sense the original one was for the mirage comics But sense it's not Canon to the mirage comics I think it could be Canon to the 2012 show sence I totally could see those turtles go thought something like this or whst it's actually the truth it's in its own world

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't fit with 2012 (Splinter being alive, Karai being older and having a daughter). But it definitely made sense with the Mirage continuity at the time.

  • @TMNTTHECONTINUITY

    @TMNTTHECONTINUITY

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm the kiddencore I also have a TMNT Chanel but I haven't done any videos for it yet

  • @tyronleung5276
    @tyronleung52762 жыл бұрын

    I wish the original ending would be reprinted

  • @DanJackson1977
    @DanJackson1977 Жыл бұрын

    Is that an AI version of Jon Bailey the Honest Trailers guy? Or is it really him.. cause if its him.. something is off... the reading is disconnected.

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    It's complicated. But it is not Jon Bailey.

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Freakazoid12345 I am sorry, but you have a link to the software where it says it is done with consent. It's in the description. Please don't go accusing people of things, just because you couldn't be bothered.

  • @Douche85

    @Douche85

    6 ай бұрын

    It sounds so bad

  • @disneyboy3030
    @disneyboy30309 ай бұрын

    I wonder what would happen if someone did an expanded ending that combined both versions of the ending.

  • @ssss.wappled2418
    @ssss.wappled24184 ай бұрын

    4:44

  • @Hail2daking
    @Hail2daking10 күн бұрын

    What's with the a.i honest trailer voice?

  • @thebombsquadtv6151
    @thebombsquadtv6151 Жыл бұрын

    where can I find the fan ending?

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    Here www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/tmnt/vol3.html

  • @jacobproper1
    @jacobproper1 Жыл бұрын

    Image likes to license alternative comic books and also what do you get when you cross Batman and splinter into bat 🦇 splinter

  • @palmeno8245
    @palmeno8245 Жыл бұрын

    What was the music use in this video?

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    It seems like I messed up the project file of this video, so I cannot tell you exactly which songs those are right now. I can recognize the first one: One Time, by Jeremy Black If you have one other song in the video you want to know, send me the timestamp.

  • @palmeno8245

    @palmeno8245

    Жыл бұрын

    ⁠@@TheTurtleNexusthanks it unfortunate for other songs can’t be found but that’s ok it’s just the first one I was interested in,also maybe you should put the music in the end of your videos or something like that but besides that thanks p.s:I’m also subscribed and this video is what let me to your channel see ya 😉

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@palmeno8245 Thanks, I started adding the song names into the credits of the videos a few months ago. The credits themselves are mostly at the beginning part of the video, and for a while they were at the end.

  • @iceonthesun8880
    @iceonthesun888011 ай бұрын

    So, basically Donatello became Cyborg from JL

  • @Officiallydubs
    @Officiallydubs2 жыл бұрын

    Holy hell

  • @Homey104
    @Homey1042 жыл бұрын

    Just wondering, is this the same narrator who does those "Honest Trailers" segments?

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope, just similar voice.

  • @tyronleung5276
    @tyronleung52762 жыл бұрын

    Yo you gotta do a video on tmnt odyssey and tmnt origin

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    2 жыл бұрын

    I will talk about Odyssey in a future video. But I don't think I ever read Origin (I don't have a copy).

  • @tyronleung5276

    @tyronleung5276

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheTurtleNexus I got a copy

  • @lucasgibbs4050

    @lucasgibbs4050

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tyronleung5276 Do you mind doing a video on it? You know like all you see are the pages?

  • @tyronleung5276

    @tyronleung5276

    Жыл бұрын

    @The Turtle Nexus whats your email I can send it to you

  • @tyronleung5276

    @tyronleung5276

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucasgibbs4050 I can send you an email of a digital copy if you'd like to read it

  • @maximillianlylat1589
    @maximillianlylat1589 Жыл бұрын

    Probably the dumbest line of the comics i read in this franchise minus some guest related stuff in both the mirage or archie runs from but i got some enjoyment out of it. Plus it got me into savage dragon

  • @dsprks75
    @dsprks7511 ай бұрын

    Je. Sus. Christ….

  • @Drixenol86
    @Drixenol869 ай бұрын

    Image Ninja Turtles was unintentionally a big mess.

  • @sustelsuk
    @sustelsuk11 ай бұрын

    Am I crazy or did they use an ai narrator since it can’t say karai name right

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    11 ай бұрын

    Check out the recent community posts, I explained how this happened.

  • @martianmanfrommars8428
    @martianmanfrommars8428 Жыл бұрын

    You lost me at Komodo Dragons

  • @vicvic889
    @vicvic8892 ай бұрын

    Bro who In the heck is talking?

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    2 ай бұрын

    Back then I was using text-to-speech. Check the description.

  • @MrBlack-wt5er
    @MrBlack-wt5er Жыл бұрын

    Image made great comics and the stories and writing are all there and I think is good but the TMNT are (ugly asf) and I hate that they all wore the same bandana and some of the writing and injuries the turtles faced sort of made them even more (ugly asf) and that's what I'm not liking about what I'm seeing! If they faced those injuries then make the healing power take away scars at least and give them all their distinguishable bandanas and don't make splinter a disgusting ugly bat, I hated that part too!

  • @TheTurtleNexus

    @TheTurtleNexus

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, it was a continuation of the Mirage comics, so they had to wear the same color on all bandanas (Which didn't really matter because it was in black and white). But I get what you are saying about the art, I actually had problems figuring out what was going on in every page, so when IDW added color to those pages, that became my go-to version of volume 3.

  • @autobotproductions1244

    @autobotproductions1244

    8 ай бұрын

    @@TheTurtleNexuspersonally I prefer the multi colored headbands. Maybe not very ninja, but it makes them stand out more

  • @silvypetrisor6979
    @silvypetrisor697911 ай бұрын

    The art is so bad

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