A Look at Some Strange Dice - Part 2

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Part 1 - • A Look at Some Strange...
A look at 3,4,13,15,16,22,24,48,120 sided dice (and Fudge dice)
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  • @RMS_Gigantic
    @RMS_Gigantic7 жыл бұрын

    My d120 actually arrived just today! When you look at the mathematics that went into distributing the numbers, it's a rather impressive feat of a die.

  • @TheFilipFonky

    @TheFilipFonky

    4 жыл бұрын

    What games even use a d120?

  • @ihateeverythingparodyplus5024

    @ihateeverythingparodyplus5024

    3 жыл бұрын

    Believe it or not there's also a d-400. It's basically a golf ball.

  • @alfredsartwell5659

    @alfredsartwell5659

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ihateeverythingparodyplus5024 where would you find the d400? Is there a link showing it?

  • @IONATVS

    @IONATVS

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes, though like the d100 and the odd-numbered dice shown, the d400 is not a "true" die (ie a uniform polyhedron, which means all sides are congruent and meet at vertices with only one type of angle around them), as the d48, d60, and d120 are the largest of that kind which physically work in 3D space, with the d48 exhausting the entirety of the cubic symmetry group the d6 and d8 are part of and the d120 exhausting the symmetry group the d4, d12, and d20 are part of. You can make a fair die with any number of sides either by rotational symmetry like the d10, d3, and d50 he showed or by an analytical method (take a sphere, place flat circular faces on it and then run a ton of simulations to adjust the positions until it is as close to fair as you can get, then sometimes they adjust further to make it look like a polyhedron like most the lower-number odd dice), but a d120 is the largest die that looks and acts like the traditional platonic solids.

  • @IONATVS

    @IONATVS

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@citrusbutter7718 it’s definitely harder to read with that many sides, and takes longer to settle because of how round it is, but like with most other uniform polyhedral dice (the d4 being the main exception), on a d120 every face has an other face parallel to it on the opposite side, and thus should always have exactly one side facing up & flat when it stops on a flat surface, and that side is marked with the number you rolled. Similar for “golf ball” dice with an even number of divots it can stop on, 1 divot will be flatter than the others and it has the number in it.

  • @MegaEricPham
    @MegaEricPham3 жыл бұрын

    What I love about the original D4 is that I *actually* use them as cattletrops.

  • @coldhotpocket8226
    @coldhotpocket82266 жыл бұрын

    The D120 reminds me of the infinity-die from Gravity Falls.

  • @night.2257

    @night.2257

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too lol

  • @rubyrhino1130

    @rubyrhino1130

    2 жыл бұрын

    gravity falls is cringe

  • @adonisparts1343
    @adonisparts13432 жыл бұрын

    A coin flip is technically a 2 sided dice roll

  • @JetFuelSE

    @JetFuelSE

    Жыл бұрын

    No it's a 3 sided dice (just heavily weighed towards two of the options)

  • @KurtyHorty

    @KurtyHorty

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah its a 3 sided dice because of the edge

  • @Pajanimations

    @Pajanimations

    Жыл бұрын

    but it more than that because of the ridges

  • @JetFuelSE

    @JetFuelSE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pajanimations Not all coins have ridges.

  • @KnifeAbuse

    @KnifeAbuse

    Жыл бұрын

    📌

  • @swampwiz
    @swampwiz6 жыл бұрын

    "Fair dice" are convex isohedra. An isohedron is a polyheron in which each face can be placed on a plane and the collectively, the other faces will occupy the same places in space relative to that plane; this property is face-transitiveness.

  • @dididiihas

    @dididiihas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup, those other unfair dice were polyhedra, being close three dimensional shapes where every side is a polygon, but the polygons were not congruent, making them not isohedral. Another mistake that some people make is that only the platonic solids are fair dice, which Is not true, the faces don't need to be regular, and there can be a different amount of faces that meet at a vertex. For example, a triangular bipyramid with congruent faces is a fair d6, even though three faces meet at the apexes, but 4 faces meet at the vertices at the shared base of the pyramids.

  • @thatonelordnerd9693
    @thatonelordnerd96936 жыл бұрын

    13:36 The periodic table of the dice!

  • @Chris_winthers
    @Chris_winthers2 жыл бұрын

    As a d&d player, this is the best video i have ever seen

  • @brentpollock7638
    @brentpollock76386 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the d20+ can look similar, so I tried to colour-code them.

  • @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven
    @KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven3 жыл бұрын

    I like how the D13 have it so the 7 side can never be a outcome. ( truly making it a "unlucky dice") And would be great for rolling random curses or afflictions.

  • @menghao737

    @menghao737

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, you misunderstood, I rewatched it to make sure,, it can't land on the opposite of seven because the seven is on a point. You can land a seven, because it's opposite side is flat, and because it can never land seven down they left that spot blank, but you can definitely land a seven for your outcome.

  • @loganfrandrup6590
    @loganfrandrup65902 жыл бұрын

    You actually can use the + and - dice (Fudge Dice) in the Fate Game sytem. I remeber those quite fondly actually.

  • @knate44
    @knate444 жыл бұрын

    As an avid Fudge/Fate player, you generally roll 4 fudge dice per roll, and then add, or subtract the dice face from normal. sometimes I like to get spicy in D&D and let the fudge dice decide if I am going to give the players and easier or harder random encounter, either by CR, or randomly determining if a few of the enemies will flee, or if reinforcements arrive, and if so how many.

  • @joshuadixon4090
    @joshuadixon40904 жыл бұрын

    I made D3's one day after eating overcooked rice, each side is an oval shape with pointed ends and bent in to meet the points. I just kinda squished some clay between my fingers until it looked good and smoothed it over

  • @sagesarrazine6270

    @sagesarrazine6270

    4 жыл бұрын

    What a bold open

  • @sergiomdp2002
    @sergiomdp20025 жыл бұрын

    A good solution for the "not stop rolling dices" are a good droping box with borders ;)

  • @Barleh
    @Barleh5 ай бұрын

    that truncated d4 is genius

  • @spliffi869
    @spliffi869 Жыл бұрын

    cool ty for showing them off. very helpful

  • @KnifeAbuse
    @KnifeAbuse Жыл бұрын

    Ideas For Part 3: D17, D19, D21, D26, D28, Vowel D5, Consonant D21, Alphabet D26, And D36

  • @zredwarrior2299
    @zredwarrior22994 жыл бұрын

    When trying to find a max roll on a die like that d48, it's always exactly opposite of the 1. If not, the die is made improperly.

  • @pocarski

    @pocarski

    3 жыл бұрын

    This only makes sense if you don't know the max roll and also don't want to count the sides, otherwise you're gonna spend just as much time trying to find the 1

  • @arikwolf3777

    @arikwolf3777

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pocarski Except the 1 is one of the 9 single digits which stands out from the two digits numbers.

  • @ShadowWolfTJC
    @ShadowWolfTJC5 ай бұрын

    I see you got yourself a long die for your d3 needs. Those seem uniquely useful for when you need some small-numbered odd-sided dice, such as a d3, d5, d7, d9, d11, or d13, for your tabletop gaming needs. I also see that you got yourself a d120, which answered an old question that I had in an earlier video. I've yet to see any barrel dice, which I'd imagine would've been useful alternatives towards using trapezohedron-shaped dice for when you'd need, say, a d10, d14, d16, or d18.

  • @momothemagecat
    @momothemagecat2 жыл бұрын

    4:40 "Let's see if we can find the 48" Uhhhhh, it's right there

  • @scaryshit2488
    @scaryshit24884 жыл бұрын

    I've seen 6 sided dice with a spherical shape. Maybe you can check that out.

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have actually ended up with a few of those in my collection since this video's creation. If I end up doing another one, I'll have to bring them out!

  • @maryann9403
    @maryann94033 жыл бұрын

    Idk why but i find dice relaxing

  • @bergedorf6
    @bergedorf64 жыл бұрын

    Nice dice

  • @KnifeAbuse
    @KnifeAbuse Жыл бұрын

    0:26 Hand Everyone Copies Of The 3,4,16,24

  • @hulick6910
    @hulick69102 жыл бұрын

    Spindown dice, a variation of d20 used in D&D

  • @0303wong
    @0303wong5 жыл бұрын

    this needs a part 3

  • @s.korgaard
    @s.korgaard2 жыл бұрын

    Are those acrylics?

  • @NamTheDawg203
    @NamTheDawg2036 ай бұрын

    nice!

  • @mraxolotl2713
    @mraxolotl27133 жыл бұрын

    i thought it would be impossible to have odd number dice

  • @socktheakbashdogauttpathdt3906
    @socktheakbashdogauttpathdt39062 жыл бұрын

    How can i buy it?

  • @ThePowerchimp
    @ThePowerchimp4 жыл бұрын

    Dude - great expose on dice, but please find the manual focus on your camera!

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    4 жыл бұрын

    The camera used here has none, unfortunately.

  • @sholland42
    @sholland422 жыл бұрын

    Where was this when I was playing DND back in the 80s?

  • @DD-rv2qe
    @DD-rv2qe2 жыл бұрын

    A hendecagonal bipyramid is a perfect 22 sided dice

  • @judimcrae1099
    @judimcrae10993 жыл бұрын

    the 707 upside down looked like it said "LOL".

  • @KoreyThatcher
    @KoreyThatcher Жыл бұрын

    What do you mean by "true dice"?

  • @IKostman
    @IKostman25 күн бұрын

    Why couldn’t you do the D1??? |:(

  • @mderooij7851
    @mderooij7851 Жыл бұрын

    I Like The D20 Dice.

  • @upsoun
    @upsoun7 жыл бұрын

    sweet video

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @freemanedwards5663
    @freemanedwards56636 жыл бұрын

    Whoa

  • @awaytoanywhere699
    @awaytoanywhere6994 жыл бұрын

    you can make a model of the Solar System using dice only. size accurate... (almost) 😀

  • @knowone3031

    @knowone3031

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol o gsus..

  • @didu173
    @didu1732 жыл бұрын

    The binding of isaac lore

  • @lg_unofficial
    @lg_unofficial4 жыл бұрын

    My dice d3-d100 just arrive on june.So i shop on june

  • @Moralatheist101
    @Moralatheist1015 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @zeek6728
    @zeek67285 жыл бұрын

    I have a d24 ,d30, and d60

  • @ildar.ishalin.chelovek
    @ildar.ishalin.chelovek Жыл бұрын

    Big dices have to be rolled in a bowl probably 😂

  • @jimmyk4091
    @jimmyk40916 жыл бұрын

    you need a d2/3/4 multi-dice ;-)

  • @cmyk8964

    @cmyk8964

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe that’s called a D12.

  • @13thBear
    @13thBear4 жыл бұрын

    What's the point of these goofy sided dice and what games require goofy sided dice? Well, besides some degree of goofy novelty for goofy people?

  • @funtimewithabraham5107
    @funtimewithabraham51073 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @boyahg1305
    @boyahg13056 жыл бұрын

    lol I have two sets of dice, the one that came with the dnd 5e strter kit, and a set my mom bought me for my birthday

  • @LegitMan335
    @LegitMan335 Жыл бұрын

    3 sided dice ?

  • @GordieGii
    @GordieGii5 жыл бұрын

    The triangles are all the same shape and size, although half are the mirror image of the other half. But if it's a true die then numbers opposite each other should add up to 121.

  • @plbster
    @plbster7 жыл бұрын

    do you have like a giant dice collection?

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    7 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say "giant", but I do have many more dice than any reasonable person would.

  • @plbster

    @plbster

    7 жыл бұрын

    do you know how many or... is there really just that many

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't kept track of how many exactly, my reckoning would be a couple to three hundred or thereabouts; plus maybe a hundred more if you count the ones that are tied to specific games and thus always in the game boxes.

  • @plbster

    @plbster

    7 жыл бұрын

    wow...

  • @beneyal9264
    @beneyal92646 жыл бұрын

    why 13, 15 and 22 sided are not true dice?

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Theoretically, a "true" die is one that has identical faces with no gaps in between them (the d120 being the largest possible configuration). So any die where the faces aren't the same, or where they've been cut from a sphere don't qualify, so every odd sided die is technically not a "true die" (as are a few other configurations). Of course, it is still possible for them to have the function of dice, landing on a given number with equal probability if thrown randomly.

  • @paulfoss5385

    @paulfoss5385

    5 жыл бұрын

    A true die must have the property where any set of rigid transformations rotations, translations (up/down, left/right, forward/backward) that moves one face to another must also do the same for every face. And there must be a set of rigid transforms for moving any face to any other face. These are the relevant transformations for dice because they are the only ones that occur when a die is thrown. You can see on the picture at 13:00 images of two d6s and two d12s that are all warped, they are true dice because every face is the same and oriented the same way with respect to each other. They just lack irrelevant symmetries. While you can weight the d13, d15, and d22 to be fair for a particular set of rolling conditions you could never weight them to be fair under all rolling conditions. There are only so many symmetries that can be made to work in three dimensions. Although technically any even number die can be made fair if they are trapezohedrons like the d10, but in practice you just end up with nearly unworkable shapes like the d50. Trapezohedrons are duals to antiprisms so they are basically three dimensional space stealing infinite regularity from two dimensions. The tabletop, itself being two dimensional, becomes angry when struck with these dice and force them to roll longer.

  • @KristofferEk
    @KristofferEk4 жыл бұрын

    the "fudge" dice basically adds or detrackts one skill modifier which works when using a system like Fatecore or you have a spell or something that requiers a specific skill number for you to ad but it's random. basically it's the only set of dice if you use six that you can roll a natural negative six with or a nat 0.

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd5 жыл бұрын

    I am the only person I have ever heard of that owns a 100 sided dice so this is interesting.

  • @cjwolf5901

    @cjwolf5901

    5 жыл бұрын

    A 100 sided die is pretty usefull. I use them too for some selfmade P&P's.

  • @mderooij7851
    @mderooij7851 Жыл бұрын

    Do You Have A D100* Dice? *A 100 Sided Dice

  • @pranavdonepudi2297
    @pranavdonepudi22973 жыл бұрын

    Nobody: Guy who is studying probability chapter

  • @Air-vp1qt
    @Air-vp1qt3 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to buy a 400 sided die or is there a 3d model that can be printed?

  • @onism3053
    @onism30533 жыл бұрын

    Which one is the ball with the beans Send me link to where you got it pls

  • @pythonnukappa8559
    @pythonnukappa85593 жыл бұрын

    Why 2 black and one blue and one ivory

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Those were the only colors of the dice available to me at the time, I try to be consistent, but it's not always possible.

  • @switchblade6552
    @switchblade65526 жыл бұрын

    #d36 gravity falls

  • @ieatpaperclipsforbreakfast

    @ieatpaperclipsforbreakfast

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was a d38

  • @Frutilla1292
    @Frutilla1292 Жыл бұрын

    Bro the d1 and d2

  • @Paul118GF
    @Paul118GF6 жыл бұрын

    Turn off the damn autofocus

  • @dicehiphop7857
    @dicehiphop78573 жыл бұрын

    I found myself in this video :o

  • @ajarofolives
    @ajarofolives2 жыл бұрын

    We made a new d&d dice game you can play!! Check it out! Show off your dice😜

  • @hienlethi2774
    @hienlethi27742 ай бұрын

    D1-D120❤

  • @Edward-2160-
    @Edward-2160-5 жыл бұрын

    No matter how many sides has a dice u unfortunately pick 1

  • @lanthren
    @lanthren4 жыл бұрын

    I lost interest of the dice shortly after the video started. I can't stop looking at the nails...

  • @helloiamenergyman

    @helloiamenergyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can't unsee It now

  • @swampwiz
    @swampwiz6 жыл бұрын

    The 13, 15 & 22 are not true dice.

  • @Coca23cola61year
    @Coca23cola61year2 жыл бұрын

    2021

  • @TheMasterChief777777
    @TheMasterChief7777774 жыл бұрын

    the d120 is not a true dice, not every vertex touches the same number of sides Edit: It's not "all symmetrical"

  • @bobbyrosales22
    @bobbyrosales222 жыл бұрын

    Fate Dice

  • @ChuckleNuts5155
    @ChuckleNuts51552 жыл бұрын

    The d24 looks exactly like a garnet crystal

  • @Momo-xs8mo
    @Momo-xs8mo4 жыл бұрын

    The dice that you said was a d10 was actually a d8 Just d&d things

  • @macneilsketchley3695
    @macneilsketchley36954 жыл бұрын

    I pity a man who buys fudge

  • @Coca23cola61year
    @Coca23cola61year2 жыл бұрын

    biber crazy me me me ….ggg

  • @FuelFire
    @FuelFire3 жыл бұрын

    Anyone here from the game Luck be a Landlord to see if a three-sided die or five-sided die is possible?

  • @liquidwater1133
    @liquidwater11335 жыл бұрын

    123

  • @bloodfest8510
    @bloodfest85104 жыл бұрын

    Why do people need so many different number dice

  • @DragonCompany1

    @DragonCompany1

    4 жыл бұрын

    They don't, but the dice are good fun. Some games require certain types of dice but I've gone far beyond that because I just enjoy it.

  • @bloodfest8510

    @bloodfest8510

    4 жыл бұрын

    Huh, your not wrong about dice being fun, but some are just confusing 😂

  • @LordGingerBerry
    @LordGingerBerry3 жыл бұрын

    Want a d2? Flip a coin.

  • @telotawa
    @telotawa2 жыл бұрын

    the 13, 15, 22, can't be perfectly fair ever because they're not isohedral couldn't tell on the 16 but it looked like it wasnt what you're trying to say at 8:03 isn't a polyhedron, but an isohedral figure look up isohedral figures on wikipedia for the full list of possible fair dice

  • @marclytle644
    @marclytle6444 жыл бұрын

    I hav two D50s got them as a joke. Once I am playing a game and the GM told me to roll a D100, I looked at the die, and said fuck that it looks like a damned golf ball, rolled my percentile dice. There, much easyer to roll and looks better.He agreed. Never saw that stupid D100 again. Took a look at my dice, those actually are D30, not D50s. Now I am sad. I never used them after I bought them s never really thought about it.

  • @rifanamithlaj2757
    @rifanamithlaj27573 жыл бұрын

    Hhh

  • @BetterBlue
    @BetterBlue4 жыл бұрын

    no need of flat spot. that's a mistake. or being lasy, rushing to market. ye ninnies. Roll the dam things! Or don't you want time-travel for real! No, ye want fantasy. Believing in nothing.

  • @mynameluvsdragonscancelled6759
    @mynameluvsdragonscancelled67594 жыл бұрын

    I’m the 168th person to like

  • @Wilhuf1
    @Wilhuf13 жыл бұрын

    Triple d4s. A d12 with 1-4 appearing 3 times. Generates 1-4. Rolls well. No caltrops. Double d6. A d12 with 1-6 appearing twice. Generates 1-6. Rolls well. No flat-faced rolls. You’re welcome.

  • @k.pacificnw02134
    @k.pacificnw021344 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't watch due to unappealing long fingernails. Especially on a man.

  • @saltykrug

    @saltykrug

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah dude needs to cut those grody $50 cocaine nails.

  • @k.pacificnw02134

    @k.pacificnw02134

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@saltykrug Right? But then again, I personally hate long nails even on women. I'm a chick and I keep mine short. Long nails to me say 'I don't do many physical things.' Strong man hands with short nails are hot af. Okay, I'm typing a bunch of stuff on KZread comments what have I become.

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