Ten Thousand years of unrelenting war and Imperial decay. *Belisarius Cawl siting on Legions worth of Super Space Marines.* "This is fine." *sips coffee*

@anoninunen

3 жыл бұрын

Certainly fits with the Cawl we know, especially if we include all their equipment. If Marines can be vat-frown in a year and psych-indoctrinated in a day then there's a good chance that Cawl took extensive notes from the failed foundings, the experiments of Corvus Corax, and even the Daemonculaba, eventually becoming certain that any new marines would not turn into chaos-spawn.

@lordsolar4323

3 жыл бұрын

@@anoninunen they werent vat grown they were put into stasis after under going the primaris procedure. edit: my bad i read your comment wrong

@stephenconnell

3 жыл бұрын

@@lordsolar4323 That is okay for your penance please disembowel yourself at e altar of the Emperor of all mankind and all will be forgiven .

@RadarLeon

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenconnell Bowels are not required for eternal servitude to the omnissiah and the Machine God I may suggest indoctrination into the. cult of the machine, the mechanicus can always use more skittari, if this specimen proves inadequate, it may be undergo reclamation.

@johnbeck1978

3 жыл бұрын

@@anoninunen you have to remember that crawl is a bs plot driver and a paper thin explanation for GW remarketing the space marines. The cursed founding was a thing LONG BEFORE crawl was a thing.

"Okay the 13th Founding was pretty bad, but we shoudn't have too many problem until we the 666th one at least!" * 7 founding later " "Come on!"

@codeysimmons790

Ай бұрын

Pretty funny, but at 120 likes at the point of writing this and no one has mentioned that 13 + 7 = 20 instead of the desired 21? Now I see how the Adeptus Administratum make so many errors and no one notices haha

I wonder if there is some huge department on Terra responsible for the color scheme of new chapters discussing hundreds of years til they decide if it's going to be a pine green or rather a sea green for their shoulder plates.

@KillerOrca

2 жыл бұрын

Im fairly certain the chapters themselves choose their color schemes from their first brothers. Color schemes can shift and change as time goes on as well.

@someguyfromsomewhere

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the Officium Ornaturique 🤣

@ramenoodle7853

Жыл бұрын

Probably was burned as a heretic for the mention of sea green...

@johnd2058

Жыл бұрын

That's ludicrous. 30 years _tops_.

@wendigo2442

Жыл бұрын

There isn't. Warhammer isn't real. Grow up😔😔😔

"Chronological putrefaction" This is peak Oculus right there, chefs kiss

Eagerly waiting for the Lamenters entry. Poor guys just can't catch a break, but they must be one of the most selfless and true of all the Emperor's servants.

@terminatorofbaal7853

3 жыл бұрын

EMPEROR: OH. *SOB SOB SOB SOB* Custodes: oh.

@esukgfjyijlgul5335

Жыл бұрын

The lamenters deserve it their fate no pity for them

@Knights_Oath

7 ай бұрын

They got all the heart of their father and all of his luck on the Vengeful Spirit.

Currently recovering from a heart attack in the hospital. The Emperor protects. (Thank you all for your prayers to the Emperor, turns out I was incredibly Lucky, all the symptoms and signs of a heart attack, but it turns out to be an "Acute Pericarditis" I'm recovering quickly, I'm going to use this chance to purse my passion and dream.) That of course putting the holy book onto pages, and sharing with the world our Emperor, and his dream of unity. "There is no end, no doom of man. Only the dream of countless children following in the steps of their forebears, into a glorious future." One that we all can stand together, in his service.

@jackmyers8687

3 жыл бұрын

Best of luck my friend.

@Tuberuser187

3 жыл бұрын

Best wishes, I'm pleased you are recovering.

@frannyfranfrancis

3 жыл бұрын

Here's to a swift recovery, you have an entire community in your corner!

@codysing1223

3 жыл бұрын

@@frannyfranfrancis we are united in HIS service.

@fabricatorgeneralchadius1114

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck man

So fabulous bill was involved in this mess, weird cuz i always figured the cursed founding was Cael's 1st attempt at primaris.

@TK199999

3 жыл бұрын

Cawl doesn't screw up like this, he way, way more careful. It may well be someone find out about Cawl's continuing experiments with Primaris in M35. But found Cawl's careful, methodical and patient progress to be unnecessary. Even if they had all Cawl had created up that point, it seems in the rush they only made monsters. Though no known Chapter from the Cursed or any other Founding display any of the new qualities described here. It may well be the Chapters of the Cursed Founding had only genetic modification/experimentation and not new organs. Which may have just been Phase 1 of the project. As for why Bile never made anything of it. Bile is probably the only other human besides Cawl of pulling something like this project off. But after finding the rushed, ill understood and haphazard nature of this project. Probably abandoned and destroy everything and everyone from it eventually.

@Tinkering4Time

3 жыл бұрын

Incunabla? Sounds strangely like the anathema that is the creation of the warsmith Honsu, the Daemonculaba. There are marked similarities in the methodology, and iirc Fabius Bile was involved in that project. If anything, I think that unspeakable monstrosity is a direct product of the Accursed 21st Founding.

@Archon3960

3 жыл бұрын

I rather think he tried to profit from it.

@s2korpionic

3 жыл бұрын

@@TK199999 Cawl sounds a bit Mary Sue-ish if that's the case. Does he ever screw up when making the primaris?

@ElectromagNick

3 жыл бұрын

@@s2korpionic Considering his book places the successful creation of the Primaris in M31, _ten thousand years_ before the Primaris are revealed because Rowboat Guile Man was dead at the time and Cawl was under explicit orders to not do anything with them eithout Guilliman's okay, Cawl is Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roullette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker, thirty moves ahead but Super Hamlet-level indecisive Mary Sue. Variant 4, I believe. Long story short, he out Emperor's the Emperor in The Great Work, and he also has 6 backstories, 6 personalities, and is actually just 6 people occupying the same body. Or he's three grots in a Mechanicus robe. ...I hate Cawl with a passion. And I hate the Primaris, too.

This simply makes me desperately wish for novels on the Exorcists, who Emperor help us all, are a hairs breadth away from heresy.

@redfishcam8328

3 жыл бұрын

Deathwatch: Shadowbreaker did a decent job fleshing out a character from that chapter

@BTMadness

3 жыл бұрын

@@redfishcam8328 I will definitely have to check that out!

Ah, perfect timing! Just started painting some Necrons.

This is basically "At the mountains of madness" set in 40k. I for one endorse and appreciate this.

F in the chat for the Lamenters.

@jackstrayfeald1007

3 жыл бұрын

F

@Burkutace27

3 жыл бұрын

F

@cliffnpaige2009

3 жыл бұрын

F

@ieuanhunt552

3 жыл бұрын

F

@Deridus

3 жыл бұрын

Still not certain where/when/why this meme started.

Primaris looking real shifty right now

The tragedy of the Space Marines was that before the revival of the avenging son of the Emperor, the Space Marines were a dying race. The genetic material of the Geneseed was the upmost importance to the creation of space marines, but over time the geneseed was started to fall to corruption for overuses and flaws inherited by the Primarch own genetic code.

I applaud your courage Historitor. The Imperium rarely allows the illumination of it's failures.

when he said they were reviving the third guy< for some reason I expected himt o step out of the tube, and immediatly trip and break his neck, and turn out to be a prototype lamenter.

I think Fabius Bile had a hand in this, he had his own 'Homo Novus' project in his book series.

@edmundthespiffing2920

3 жыл бұрын

A very good series

@johnbeck1978

3 жыл бұрын

True the hot housing of these bigger than normal Astartes has Fabius Bile's fingerprints all over it. These smack of his new men, or some manner of Astartes plus.

@andrewauchter7759

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that series. My impression is, the Inquisitor who headed up this project got his hands on some of Bile's Homo Novus specimens, alive or dead. He recognized that, heretical as all hell though they were, they also represented incredibly advanced genetic engineering, so he decided to get the Mechanicus involved in reverse-engineering them and combining them with the Astartes program. This super-Space Marine project would be a great cover for a Thorian looking for ways to reincarnate the Emperor. Unfortunately for everyone involved, they succeeded, only for Fabulous Bill to show up and say "hey, thanks for all your hard work, I'm just going to kill you all and take your research notes now."

@KillerOrca

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewauchter7759 As Bill do.

Ave Imperator

@closeriusfildius9634

3 жыл бұрын

What a pleasant surprise that was, great job from both of you as per usual!

@ieuanhunt552

3 жыл бұрын

Gloria in exlesis Terra

Sees oculus imperia video pop up, says it was uploaded 1 minute ago. Welp! My research paper writing shall now be aided by the soothing voice of a great imperial chronicler! *Huzzah*

@bendorlinhg6180

3 жыл бұрын

Huzzah!

Love the Black Dragons. My Fourth favourite non first founding chapter. Like an army of Wolverines!

@phreakazoith2237

3 жыл бұрын

How dare you to compare those noble Marines with their flawless gene seed to some mutant? ;)

@jackmyers8687

3 жыл бұрын

@@phreakazoith2237 what? You mean Primaris?

@phreakazoith2237

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackmyers8687 the superhuman mutant Wolverine who is for sure an abomination in the eye of the emperor. Or where you referring to the brave teenage militia "Wolverines" from The Red Dawn?

@jackmyers8687

3 жыл бұрын

@@phreakazoith2237 Apologies. wolverine from the X-Men. Bone blades covered in adamantium p no with Dragon Claws. Also, ostracized by it even though it's completely badass. Contract, Primaris are mutant geneseed that is for some inexplicable reason socially acceptable, even though it's a far worse crime.

@brigidtheirish

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackmyers8687 All this is quite hilarious to me considering that *all* astartes are mutants. The Primarchs are mutants. Heck, the Emperor is the most mutant of all.

As a major fan of the hallowed 9th legion/chapter, the Lamenters make me sad. Such kind and selfless sons of Sanguinius afflicted by a long series of tragedies, this truly is a cruel universe.

This Black Dragon Space Marine looks real badass. Thank you for your work Oculus, as always :-)

Praise be the Emperor’s Avenging Son’s Historitor..

The 21st founding makes you lament doesn’t it?

@Lazarus1095

Ай бұрын

I see what you did there!

I felt like I was listening to an actual Black Library publicae the quality of the logs were so amazing. Many thanks for doing the lore justice from a fan of both the Lamenters and The Sons of Antaeus.

Pardon my low Gothic but I fucking love this channel and the presentation of every video, it feels so immersive and gripping it keeps me coming back every upload. PS: the choir is a nice touch really ties it all together.

Aot ended but Oculus will be forever with us. Perfection as usual.

Yeah, it's a huge problem when someone starts messing with the genes and organ implants of the Astartes... Looking at you Cawl.

@Tinkering4Time

3 жыл бұрын

There is undeniably elements of the Warp in their creation. To tamper with that balance, a balance constantly being examined and maintained, risks the creation of monstrosities.

@emile1365

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tinkering4Time Only if you accept Blacked Library fan-fiction as fact.

@JRBDWD

3 жыл бұрын

Except he did and worked

Right in time for my lunch break. Oculus, your timing is impeccable, and your work doubly so.

Some of your best work to date - I hope for such beautiful writing when it comes to my dear Lamenters getting said entry.

This was one of your best! The logs read like that gave it a horror/mystery vibe

Love this story. it's in one of my old chapter approved books from the 90s 😊 👍

Them Chaos Gods really loving their rhyming

@macromicro1715

3 жыл бұрын

Doctor Sues is kept bound in demonic engine forever forced to produce all the rhymes for Chaos’s inane rituals and cryptic warnings.

Perfect way to start an evening of painting. My Warhound is finally assembled and I can start the color job. I feel like a vegan, telling anyone who will listen I got a Titan.

@stevenschnepp576

3 жыл бұрын

But unlike being a vegan, it's actually something of an accomplishment.

There's a fun short story called The Virago Fastness, about a group of marines solely pulled from the Cursed Founding all getting put on a squad within the Death Watch. It made me want to read more about that ragtag little group of misfits.

My boys of the 21st! My space marine army that i am building are The Sons of Antaeus! Aka: DAMN THEY THICK! Run counts as death guard Personal canon is their geneseeds are ultramarines, not Death Guard, as ultramarines are very stable. What makes then big is the start with candidates from a planet whose population is proto-ogryn. Huge by human standards but still with baseline mental facilities. Then during the implementation of the first 5 organs they use some techniques that are refined and less intense versions of the treatments used on the Thunder Warriors. So I'm kind of modeling the units on thunder warriors. Model size they will be larger than primaris

This has made my bad day better. Thank you Oculus

4:18 I mentally added to this line “and it is therefore surprising it manages to happen at all”.

The Cursed Founding is one of my FAVORITE topics, the Black Dragons and the Flame Falcons especially. The Flame Falcons are a story of immense tragedy, taking to a warzone with an Inquisitor in tow, and during battle some of their kin were engulfed in flame... and yet this flame didn't burn THEM. The Flame Falcons rejoiced, thinking this was clearly a blessing of the Emperor... but the Inquisitor saw it as clearly the sign of heresy, knowing or unknowing. He contacted the Grey Knights, who sent a force to purge the Flame Falcons in their entirety. When I first read it as a teen I thought it was arrogance or purtanical choice on the Inquisitor's part but... now, as a full fledged adult, I can only imagine that while that could be true, the Inquisitor could have also wept. For what he did was no less than exterminate an entire chapter of the Emperor's finest, for what seemed to be mutation beyond their control. But such is the heavy weight of the duty of the Inquisition.

One of your finest productions :) WH40k lore but with in context character and context... which brings it to life and death in the grim dark future

OMG......U ARE IN MY EYES THE TRUE LORE MASTER......YOUR VOICE,YOUR DETAILS, AND YOUR MUSIC IS UNBEATEBLE..... SRY FOR MY ENGLISCH, IM FROM GERMANY BERLIN.....PLS KEEP ON UPLOADING.....IM A PLUMBER....AND I HEAR YOUR VIDEOS EVERY DAY AT WORK , WHILE IM DRIVING FROM CUSTUMOR TO CUSTUMOR...... LOVE YOUR WORK AND DEDICATION......IN MY EYES U ARE EVEN BETTER THAN LUTEIN

@christian49972

3 жыл бұрын

greetings ausm Wedding

God I love this channel. Is there any chance you’ll do a video on any of the knight houses? I would love to listen to it while I paint

@jackmyers8687

3 жыл бұрын

Seconded! House Orhlacc or Vyronii please

Very creative. And a great performance, as always. I really enjoyed this one! :)

Another amazing video Oculus and more phenomenal voice acting by both oculus and das_man

Biologis: "Okay, so the good news is that we made some new and improved space marines that should be even stronger than the previous iteration. The bad news is that some of them may or may not have the geneseed of traitor Primarchs in them like Horus or Perturabo or, Omnissiah forbid, Konrad Curze or Lorgar. So... Yeah. Whoops. At least, if any of them are sons of Magnus, then we'll know when they start randomly mutating into piles of braying flesh."

perfect timing as i am pacing my front room with my poor unwell snotling

Very nice! Thank you for the greatly narrated lore!

Thank you for keeping it unique and creative!

Brilliant video, keep up the great work mate

VERY well done and most impressive, Thankyou for the effort.

Fantastic work as always 🙂. You never disappoint me Oculus!

Listening to you explain the history of the empire is glorious

@Duppyman695

2 жыл бұрын

glorious and horrifying..... The Imperial Truth is a *LIE* !

New to this channel so far really loving the in universe presentation

Great timing I needed something to listen too while working.

Another spectacular video. Keep on keeping on

This is such beautiful work and the product of someone who cares much about his subject.. All power of Cawl to you sir,

You've really outdone yourself here! Captivating listen!

Words cannot describe how much I love listening to your videos.

@OculusImperia

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy them! :D

Right off the bat, Administratum personel, presumably.

Really enjoyed the format

Excellent work. Kudos to the voice actor. An excellent choice.

@vitek2

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Real top tier choice if you ask me :p

The stamina of the imperial choir is impressive

While there are patterns of videos I'd like to see (Ultramarines Origins and Tactics, Prelude to Heresy), when you put up surprises I love them as well. Such good narration to work to, or just to hear.

Absolutely mint, as ever.

What an appropriate year to do the 21st founding.

Perfect thing to watch while hungover.

Truly this founding was just on my mind earlier today. The Black dragons in particular.

Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne, carrots for the Sterling!

Excellent video as always. I'd be curious to learn more about the Nova Terra Interregnum, assume sufficient information exists to warrant a video.

Great stuff man 👍

Your prose is beautiful. Rabbithole or not this channel is one of my only distractions I allow myself.

@stephenconnell

3 жыл бұрын

By the God Emperors underwear you shall not be distracted citizen of The Imperieum . I command you to stick a finger up your nose while shouting out ,"I'm a teapot one thousand times !" Blessed be our Emperor!

Another great video, thank you

A welcome and undoubtedly educational distraction, Historitor. Hail!

Well done. Thank you

Brother, you need to write a book out of Fabius Bile doing this!!

Random Thought: Please more content like this, original or otherwise. Thankyou for doing the cursed founding justice.

GREAT STUFF!!!!!

Lost Chapters are the Validictors and the Rainbow Warriors GW made a break back in the day with some people involving certain creativity.

Praise him upon holy terra, for the historitor has once again channeled his divine will into another elucidating record! About to enjoy my friday night beer. Hope it lasts me for the entirety of the video.

Painting wracks and this was perfect to bust some minis out! 🤘🤘

Ok i love your work, If i had to could i say Oculus: zenobiologus Bladermort:remebrancer/highlord ABorderPrince: Inquisitor Majorkill: some catachan badass with krieg genes Luetin: secret old one Tactica: most likely a Necron Also Oculus: super heretic Forgot about das_man: litterally just found his channel a few days ago hes probably the star child... or horus...

@itspetz7421

3 жыл бұрын

Theres a few more just getting em down hehe ;)

@itspetz7421

3 жыл бұрын

Had to edit this comment like 8 times

@vitek2

3 жыл бұрын

👀

Cursed founding is the no-name brand version of Primaris

With your style of narration, I'd love to hear you make a video on the Idoneth.

I really like the log entries

Very good vídeo! Thx

Truckin love this guy

So this is where Fabius Bile found the Perfect Clone of Fulgrim.. And Where the Black Dragons got their "Weapon X / wolverine " Bone Blades.... 👍

Alpha Legion messing with the 21st as they did with Corax's attempt rebuilding his Legion?

@Deridus

3 жыл бұрын

You know Alpharius fucked up when he needed Corax to do some Sneeky Beaky in order to repair Alpha Legion numbers. (Laughs in misinformation.) I loved that book if only because I enjoy the Raven Guard.

@Duppyman695

2 жыл бұрын

Alpharius stole the geneseed from the Raptor project and is making super Alpha Marines in a secret lab!

Amazing

DAS MAN, DAS MAN, DAS MAN, DAS MAN

Yay! More Oculus!!!

So, I am interested to see how messing with the gene seed of an astartes chapter could cause ill luck, A-La the Lamenters. Genetic issues for the Black Dragons, The Flame Falcons, The Blood Gorgons are all very evident. But ill luck? Since the Lamenters are sons of the Angel, I wonder if some psychic backlash causes the coin flipped for these unfortunate marines to always fall ill...

@Sorain1

2 жыл бұрын

Well, there is a basic theory that goes like this: The Primarch's capabilities were partially psychic/warp in nature. As goes the Primarchs, so go their gene sons. It is known that a Psyker can, intentionally or not, 'curse' one with improbable ill fortune. From jamming weapons to random numerical errors in record keeping that mark a (relatively) innocent person as guilty of crime, to simply stumbling just as they go to throw a grenade. If, as some posit, the Ultramarines exceptional record of success is due to a passive warping of the odds in their favor, then a passive warping of the odds _against_ the members of a chapter is also possible. This might also explain why, despite their exceptional misfortune, the Lamenters have never been wiped out. As their numbers fall, so does the strength of their ill fortune, allowing them to recover just enough to be torn apart once again in an endless cycle of _nearly_ being annihilated.

@georgesulea

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sorain1 Good theory👍

You're brilliant, thank you

Awesome!

The Imperium never lost the Fire Hawks

@Tsotha

Жыл бұрын

the old fluff for the Legion of the Damned had them as the remnant of the Fire Hawks who survived being lost in the warp, IDK if that has been retconned

Would you do a video about civilizations/planets not yet reclaimed by the imperium (such as the severan dominate or the civilization on Adrantis Five that Macharius encountered in M41)?

What a wonderful night to have a Cursed Founding.

I love found footage stuff. Very lovecraftian

Looks like small arms fire, maybe... Seismic survey charges. Whatever happened here, I think we missed it.

That audio log was fantastic where is it from?

This occurred 10k ago? Well that kinda lines up with the beginning of the Ultima Founding? As a Casual fan my knowledge of lore is nascent at best so forgive my ignorance if I'm mistaken. But going with that something occurs to me, with the Ultima Founding being created by the Mechanicus it seems Logical that one or even more Redundancy Plans would have been started. If all I've read years back and gleaned in the recent years on the creation of Spacemarines, several foundings being lost to time as this one in your record here demonstrates, then it can be inferred that known and perhaps lost facilities or built for purpose like the one here, would have been set up and were working towards the same overall goal, but perhaps with a partial foundation of inter project Competition. The record and your gatherings from it suggest Fabius Bile, a known Cloner with facilities of his own, as the culprit behind the attack. Depending on the Timeline for this attack would place Bile's Career of Cloning Spacemarines and Primarchs into perspective. Establishing that and comparing that to Bile's record could also indicate possible interests in Other facilities. The likelyhood of this will be inferred by the number of lost foundings and facilities created or reused for those purposes. We know reuse is one thing as the Primaris and the Grey Knights are both created there. Both in secret, one a massive project and the other Chapter scale operation. Each Chapter has the human upgrade to Spacemarine technological capacity which contains a majority of the necessary gear save for the incubation equipment and related gear and personnel requirements. As Bile has cloned himself to extend his existence several times, he has to maintain the means to continue his work. Not All of which he can make himself and the rate of conflict his work gets him into causing his own death, destroyed labs etc, he Can't go back to the same facilities and raid and pillage them for what he needs. This record and examination from the archeologists state the place had only been attacked the one time. So Bile didn't return or take over the facility, took what he needed, killed everyone to cover his tracks and left. If any of his Clones, of him or his favorite Clone primarchs occurred before this attack then there are Other Clandestine Facilities for the same purpose. So many thousands of worlds in the Imperium, so many lost forge worlds and the like. And now the possible riddle of the Yellow King suggesting Another Force built in secret by one of the Adeptus Custodes and the Yellow King himself, Rumored to be Rogal Dorn. Guilliman returns with the Primaris, it can now be Inferred that Rogal Dorn returns, he's coming back with an Army of his own, solely trained by Dorn and the Custodes. THAT is an AWESOME thought. Dorn has been gone for approximately 10k years. He'd need to be perceived as dead to go off and build what he's been building with the Custodes. The likelyhood of him coming back with a sizable Force knowing his disdain for breaking up the Legions while Understanding it, I can infer would be quite High indeed. I wonder what other of the Loyal Son's who are M.I.A. could Trusted with perhaps doing the Same. Because there's one thing that's always bugged me about the missing and living primarchs. IF Dorn is Alive and shows up with an Army, Who Else will do the similar? From a marketing perspective if One primarch coming back is good for business, then so should others as well. And for Balance...well who's to say none of the Traitor Primarchs who haven't been seen in a while shouldn't get the same rollout treatment. The next popularity and growth expansion spurt for GW is on the horizon so it makes sense that there's a lot of building up going on to that effect from what I'm seeing anyways.