I've watched this twice. At different dates. And I just want to say is thank you for educating me.

My dad had a peace dollar he thought was real for the longest time. And I put a magnet to it and it stuck and he was pretty upset about it. I bought him a real one for Christmas..

@sotrips

4 жыл бұрын

Good job on being a good son.

@ruger51995

3 жыл бұрын

People who fake coins to scam people need to be shot in the face and incinerated

@joshtong5649

3 жыл бұрын

people who sell fakes should be thrown into the lava where they can feel the pain but not die

@chrisbudesa9355

Жыл бұрын

I believe China is the source of nearly all counterfeits.

What a great video. I had no idea there were so many ways to verify whether a silver dollar is real, or fake. Thank you for making this video.

Good video, but why the compulsion to add background music? It dramatically reduces the watchability.

@P.B.Theriver

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, very annoying.

@RGRundeRGRound

2 жыл бұрын

almost didn't notice the music GREAT VIDEO

@n.e.c.6389

3 ай бұрын

The back ground music drowned out the ring test also.

Great video. I am just getting into collecting Morgan’s and these videos really help in my search!

Man....silver coins pinging together is just as satisfying as an M1 Garand ping

Great video, to the point and straightforward. Thanks, well done!

Loved your video, especially the ping test. For me, it is the best example on youtoube to illustrate the different pitches of fake vs. real. My conclusion is that scale, caliber and ping test is all you need to find 99% of all fakes. No expensive testing equipment needed.

@przybyla420

4 жыл бұрын

Not on valuable numismatics though. Fakes of these would still be coin silver, and pass all those tests.

@RGRundeRGRound

2 жыл бұрын

​@@przybyla420 good point, that's why I'm a bullion Bull 🎉

*ring test* taking your morgan from MS, to choice BU. Hahah just poking fun, this is a fabulous video!! Great work!!!

Thank you very much for this informative video! I guess I will buy a tool like yours :)

This was the most helpful video about finding out the true authenticity of a real silver dollar those measurements took away what little doubt I had then the ring test I had a peace dollar to use against my Morgan but it worked . Even though the peace is so much thinner I couldn’t believe there’s that much difference but all 3 of my peace dollars ring and are all the same diameter but thinner . Thank you so much for going through all the details the way you did I’ve learned a lot more from this one video than I did others I’m likening and subscribing !

In the 1970s, my grandfather worked in a liquor store. When interesting coins would come in, he would buy them out of the register for face value and give them to my brother and me. I've got 3 Morgan silver dollars and I've been looking at them lately. I did the ring test this morning as I had just learned about it. 2 of them ring beautifully. One makes a horrible 'thud' :D I think I've got a fake! :D

@user-iw2nw5vk8j

2 ай бұрын

Kind of makes you wonder why someone would would go through the effort to make a fake Morgan dollar and put it into circulation in the 70’s

I would like to see a somewhere a video or study of the variances of VF MINT non circ High Grade Morgans, width, diameter and weight. Now on your video, If that coin was cleaned and to bare metal like when new the .09 could be gone. Oh and another thing, ( if your familiar with Metal detectors..... you can Target ID a real Morgan vs. a fake one ). Example using a Teknetics metal detector with digital ID. The metal detectors with analog meters are harder to read. These should show up right at the same number and will show a difference in the numbers if other metals are being used. PS. your video is the most put together out of all I've seen, *GREAT JOB !*

I got eleven silver dollars from my grandparents from their wedding and gave them to me!

Thanks for the vid Charlie!

A dealer on ebay sent me 100 silver dollars and 20 of them where fake . I filed a complaint and got a refund

@lisaanderson4

3 жыл бұрын

Nice job

@fredbuckles919

9 күн бұрын

eBay seems to be good that way.

I just bought a scale and it is very useful in detecting fraud coins 👍

Whose brilliant idea was it to have loud music in the background while you're performing the ring test?

thanks for sharing, very helpful video

Yeah this really helped find out if my coin was fake Thx

Great video, thorough.

Wowsers!!! Great video!!! Thanks so much

I was given a Morgan dollar very similar to what you have shown. I also noticed that if you take your fingernail you can rub/scratch off the gray fake patina.

Excellent video. I also do a quick test using a strong neodymium magnet where I put the coin almost vertical, slightly slanted, and then put the small magnet against the top and let it slide down. If the coin is high content silver, then the diamagnetism of a real coin will cause the magnet to slide down across the coin much slower than if the coin is not silver. I am curious if you use this test also.

Thankyou for the knowledge!!!

Thanks for the info!

Very well done. Thanks

Can't hear the Ring test music too loud

Informative, thank you

Great info, thanks.

Another way to quantify the "ring" would be a digital guitar tuner that will show the sound of the ring. They are small, relatively inexpensive, and reproducible. Have not checked my few silver coins yet, but should work. Look for a tuner with the cent meter. This will give a very fine sound discrimination.

THANKYOU SO MUCH. GREAT HELP!

Good Info.. How much does the tool cost?

Thanks. Very useful.

I agree, 100%. If you're buying morgans or peace dollars make sure you have a good neodym magnet, a scale that reads 1/100 grams and a caliper. It will help you weed out almost all of the fakes.

@lordhumongus8669

4 жыл бұрын

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@markmyjak7739

4 ай бұрын

Copper and brass react the same way as silver using a neodymium magnet.

Parabéns, uma ótima aula. 👏👏👏👍

Great video I recently bought Morgans and I need a experienced person to look at them

Is there a specific scale that you recommend

when you measured the coin for it's thickness(the fake that was over 3mm) were you measuring from rim to rim or the middle of the coin? i could not tell from the video. thanks! the thickness is supposed to be 2.40mm? is that middle of the coin, or rim to rim?

@carlospablo6713

Жыл бұрын

Rim to rim

Thanks for info bro

Great info

Thanks so much Sir for this good information Have nice day Sir 💐💐❤

Good one I go through 60 Morgan’s in my Morgan videos

Great video

very helpful

Excellent content, I learned a lot. Especially the 1804 coin that my wife bought me from a garage sale for AU $1.00 was fake. Cheers.

what brand of silver tester is that? is that a GVS tester🤔🤔🤔 thx

Good vid. Just a thought: the ping test sounded a bit like shopping in the produce section of Albertson's. Might want to cut the background music in that section. Very good presentation of dimensions, which was your catch. Buying off Ebay is something I don't do. Never have, never will. Too risky, too much work if it turns out to be a fake.

I have zero idea how one could be a silver (or gold, especially gold) buyer in 2022 without a Sigma Analytics machine. That 1903 SD was an exceptional fake, that would fool even pretty experienced coin guys. I also like a magnet test, you can get little 1/4" x 1/4" rare earth magnets out of a dead CD player that work great.

What is scary is all the work they put to get this looking pretty decent imagine if they just use silver. It would be so close it would be unimaginable.

@samgardner4667

4 жыл бұрын

Always check the reeds. Reeds never lie. Thickness too.

@onedollasnake

3 жыл бұрын

They won’t luckily as that defeats the purpose

@MrThe1234guy

3 жыл бұрын

@@onedollasnake Maybe for this coin but for a collector's rare version like Carson City that sells for $1000 it defeats the purpose not to.

An amazing fake! How did they make it? Conventional minting? What an effort.

@beachgoldassay

5 жыл бұрын

Not really sure. It is assumed that dies are made from coins, which are basically like making copies of copies so there is loss. But with a coin this old, it is expected to be worn. So more care was taken to find an alloy that would allow the coin to take almost the same area, so when weighed it might get past some folks. Most people will not check the thickness of a coin, but since this is a key date, it had to be verified. This coin is definitely too thick.

The color is a give away. Looks "too good" at a glance. Dark coloration just ain't right and the silver is pretty light. Neat to see that they made the coin to thick, accounting for the extra weight as it should be a bit under. Thanks for sharing. A quick drop on a hard surface tells the ring.

It has that brown tint that all the fake ones seem to have. That brown tint that you can’t get with pure silver. The one on the right is probably a mixture of bronze and silver

They won’t ever be over weight. Nothing will ever be over weight unless it’s an antique bar from the 1700s, and even then, probably spot-on or just under.

what is the type of acid do you use to verify(help) a silver coin??

@onedollasnake

3 жыл бұрын

None because that ruins them I’d just use a simple few tests to avoid completely ruining the value of a Morgan ping test magnet test and examine the coin compared to a known real Morgan

OMG I'm so glad other people agree the background music is to loud and annoying !! I think his calibration is off too. He means well but delivers mixed results and numbers,

The ping/ring is the fastest most reliable test.

Is there a follow up with the customer? Did eBay get their money back on the fake Morgan?

It's hard enough to find original and unmessed with Morgans (cleaned, whizzed, etc) as is, now we have to worry about this! Do coin shops charge people to verify their coins, if so, how much? I have a 1903-S that I now want checked.

@beachgoldassay

5 жыл бұрын

Your local coin shop really should not charge for something like that. I wouldn't at my shop. I really takes no time at all for someone experienced.

It is easier to use 18k gold acid to test for silver, it shows up white-ish and so much more easier than the actual silver acid tester...also if you add acid that you don't use a lot, or it is older and not worthy to use you can put it on all the marks to clean the testing stone. I don't get a lot of platinum and it came with my kit and I use it to clean the stone... ;-)

Didn't do the density (specific gravity) test. That is worth knowing about.

Right, weigh it out take a magnet to it then measure diameter and etc.

What is the ring test?

what kind of acid did you use

What is the name of the tool ? Also how much do they cost? Very informative video, thank you for educating us. Can you also do a video on silver bars ?

@beachgoldassay

5 жыл бұрын

Hello June! Thanks! The Sigmas are rather expensive. 700-ish for the cheaper version, up to 1400 for the high end tester. I actually did do a couple videos on silver bars that are on my channel. Take a look!

@junederose5473

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all this information. We novices really appreciate all the help we can get! Being you are so knowledgeable on many things silver being one, could you please do a video on antique Turquoise and Silver bracelets.? It would be greatly appreciated as I am a collector.

How do you weight a Morgan that's in a slab?

I just weighed one that i bought on ebay advertised as a replica and it weighed 27grams and the width is exactly 2.8mm and the diameter is 37.78mm. They are taking note and improving

@justin-davis

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you buy a replica? You can get inexpensive real coins lol.

@markgb

Жыл бұрын

@@justin-davis my answer is for magic tricks, they are a great size for manipulation

@chrisbudesa9355

Жыл бұрын

Thickness

What kind of stone is that, and kind of acid?

When did the fake Morgans and Peace dollars starting coming out.

I have one dollar coin.1887.what is its value

You might want to turn down the music for the "ring" test.

Great video, I knew about the weight, but the dimensions were not coming up on google and the ring test would be very helpful if I had two real silver Morgans to test with, but my sound just like your fake ones. It's like the difference between Pan and The Minotaur playing the Flute. The music is a bit much and annoying.

good advice for people buying morgans

would it be too much to ask to keep the music out of the background? What purpose it actually serves?

I got a decent looking morgan off eBay a while ago for my 16th birthday. (it was a 1902 O, but not the small o counterfeit) weighed slightly over (26.78) but still within tolerances thickness was fine (2.4mm dead) the diameter, however, was 37.8mm. on a coin that looks like it has almost no wear. I know .3mm is a tiny amount. but coupled with the weight being slightly over, im not sure if it adds up (it does ring like a silver bell though, so its almost definitely silver) kinda sucks that I got whats probably a counterfeit for my birthday. but oh well, thanks for the video

@onedollasnake

3 жыл бұрын

I also got a Morgan for my birthday luckily it was real happned to be 16 for me as well

@onedollasnake

3 жыл бұрын

A good way to tell if it’s fake is check the vams if it don’t have a single vam from that year it’s fake

@DadaPoopoo

8 ай бұрын

​@@onedollasnakewhat's a vam?

Where can I buy those tools you used . I've been looking for some scales like that but have not found any. The sigma machine seems to be the best way. Where do I go to find one , please sir ?

@beachgoldassay

5 жыл бұрын

www.sigmametalytics.com/ - these are what we use, and plenty of coin shop suppliers provide them... They are pricey though.

@bhooe8595

5 жыл бұрын

Harbor freight scale

@janicebrewer1067

3 жыл бұрын

@@bhooe8595 Yep, mine works great.

What the name of the machine??

I like the ring verifier

I see you have 4 thumbs down so we know 4 coin crooks watched this ! Dang I wish would have seen this a few years ago . I have so many silver dollars , there is no way I even want to know if I have fake ones or not ! I bought them in good faith , I will sell them the same. The thought makes me sick to my stomach ! Geeze , crooks everywhere !

nice chanel

Looks real to me !! I would have been taken if I had purchased that coin. Had no idea that there are fake coins in existence. Who would do that ??

@StewieGriffin505

11 ай бұрын

Chinese.

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that 1888 does have a mint mark can't tell what it is but they're look definitely looks like a mint mark might be there

The fake Coins makes a person feel like giving up collecting there are too many fakes, and those can destroy a collectors, confidence and collecting

The sigma tester was throwing off different readings of diameter and thickness than your digital calipers (?)

Giá thu mua đồng xu 1887 bao nhieu

Emptor Caveat, especially when shopping on eBay, as well as other places, flea markets, etc...

More difficult to tell apart, if the counterfeit has had been made with real actual 90% silver, esp. for highly valued old 8-Reales Spanish pillar dollar.

I bought five from Temu. The price point is such that I don't care if they're fakes, as they're going on a western gunbelt and holster anyway. If I were collecting coins, it would be an issue. But as decorative pieces, no problem unless it's super obvious.

@user-le8ll3kh8c

6 ай бұрын

It's good u don't care if their fake , because they are 👍

Would be fun to send the fake into NGC or PCGS just to see if they catch it or not

@chrisbudesa9355

Жыл бұрын

Gamble on your part. They are experts and seldom make mistakes.

Do they make fakes out of silver? That would make more sense considering silver is cheap and thw value is in the numismatic part?

@przybyla420

4 жыл бұрын

Before the plandemic I saw common year Morgan’s for around $28. Think they’re like .8 of an oz. melt value or so, at $18/oz. it’s mostly silver you’re paying for.

@MrThe1234guy

4 жыл бұрын

@@przybyla420 ASW: 0.7734oz Melt Value: $13.66 Mostly collectors value. Not the best way to stack silver if you're paying a premium.

@onedollasnake

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the only fake silver ones are gonna be semi key date coins or keydate fakes but they often have the same grainy terrible look to them

I knew by the 1 second mark, when you flipped it over, that it was fake. By the sound it made. This is also the first video I have watched that was made with some decent equipment. There are more "FAKE" KZread videos about fake silver than there are real ones. LOLOL I wish youtube had a block button. You would have a lot less competition. :o)

To be employed on scale . That's MY Morgan's worth, Iver ans above seiures in Raced Boats. Don't you agree, Justin? For the netaogir alone, "just coming out"?

Where do you get the tool that measures the diameter and thickness of the coin.

@goldvulcan9284

5 жыл бұрын

Hobby shops

@55ense5imulation4

5 жыл бұрын

Called a caliper

@JohnBBolt

5 жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight has them less than $15.

Everything was great until the "ring test". But the music volume at 30 or 40% made it impossible to hear!

@jasonmolihan61

3 жыл бұрын

I heard it just fine, thanks Bose.

Wat is the prize for a 1921 no mark Coin

Mine is close to uncirculated it’s 26.77 magnets don’t stick the dates and other letters look good compared to a real one I’m at 38.9 in diameter and 2.50 in thickness I don’t have a digital reading all I got is the lines on my caliper !

hi my 1898 morgan dollar passes the thickness and diameter test (i think) but The weight is off by 3 grams but i did a ping test and it certainly sound real

@ENTIY-tl4rk

Жыл бұрын

there is little to no wear to my coin btw

I have 1 morgan 1883 i put it on the once scale it weight is 1once then i weigh it in grams it weigh at 28 grams.

I think it's unmoral that people sale fake coins!!! I get really perturbed that people do this!!

Hreat vid great info home run narration