I'm from Co. Limerick and Leylands were very popular in this neck of the woods. This was thanks to one man, the legendary late Joe Ahern from Grange, Kilmallock (it's actually on the Limerick side of Bruff). I could be mistaken, but my understanding is that Joe consistently sold the most Leylands in Ireland for a good many years. His knowledge of Leylands was immense and even after the demise of Leyland/Marshall, Joe was able to source just about any part for a Leyland. Like all other makes, Leylands did have some issues and acquired an unjustified poor reputation in some quarters. There are still lots of leylands working away quietly on farms which is probably a testament to their engineering.

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Great info their Gérard, u must look a bit deeper into Joe Ahern. Thanks for that 👍

The 344 was a very reliable model.

During my pre-college farm experience, 1973-4, I spent many days spreading pig slurry with a Leyland 384 and Alfa Laval 1200 gal gravity fill tanker. As you said in the video great engine, and road speed. It had a canvas Duncan cab/safety frame with glass doors, which made it exceptionally noisy in the cab, and I always drove it without them, even in the depths of winter. Later in 1979, used a 272 syncro cultivating and drilling. The farm replaced a MF 165 front end loader & 185 with a 262 & 272. Exceptionally good to drive on the road, and field. Comfortable, quiet cab.

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for that. It's great to hear from people who worked them back in the times when they were new 👍

Super video Alan. Fella beside us here has a serious collection of Nuffields and Leylands. Some very rare ones at that. We have a bit of a soft spot for them at our place to.😊😊

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, Cathal.. They are more popular in Ireland than I expected, it seems. Thanks for watching 👍

Let's go. i was waiting for this!! I love the Leylands, truly British. My Dad has a Leyland 285 and is pretty much in immaculate condition, and my brother has a Leylands 272, which a 272 could rival some Ford and Massey Ferguson tractors The 272, 472, 262, 154, 245 & 282 were some phenomenal reliable machines often over engineered and their robust tractors. While yeah, the 6 cylinder Leylands were unreliable. The 4 cylinder Leylands makes up for it, in my opinion, and may i just say they're one of the most elegant tractors ever! Could you do a video on the Marshalls that took on from Leyland?

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, yes, as I said near the end of the video, next week's video is on Marshall 👍

The 2100 alignment engine /gearbox problem is well known..the engine in its work vibrated separetly from the g/,box giving serious clutch and shaft issues..a simple remedy secure engine mounts ro the chassis..same as the 4cyl and it worked fine.!

Great video and thanks Back in 1988 and 1989 I worked for Marshall's Sister company in Scunthorpe (North Lincolnshire) as a Welder, I saw them been built and they painted the tin work in our spray booths. We had a factory 1984 Marshall (I think a 602) and I used to drive it with a dolly and a large lorry flatbed trailer, Great times for a 21 year old.I'm looking forward to your next video. Dave

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Dave. Nice to get some inside info. Hope you enjoy the next one 👍

@m0ogy

3 ай бұрын

I'm sure I will, I remember a few imported IMT and Steyr that changed to Marshalls and a handful were re badged Nuffield, for a cancelled African order and ended up in Ireland again some of it in recent Classic Tractor magazine , I enjoy your work and gutted I missed out on the MF 100 book 😏@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

We have a 472 here in Utah it had a garbage loader on it we removed and just use it for pulling disc

Thank you Alan. Back in the late 70s I worked for a farmer that had a 344 and then a 272 Synco. I thought the 272 was an impressive tractor for the time. And great for buckrake work, with that gearbox. The rear linkage, PTO, and hydraulics did not seem as refined as those on Fords or MFs of the time.

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Philip.. 👍

I drove a 262 or 272 Synchro as a young lad in the 90s, mostly for yard work on a dairy farm in West Cork. Nice to drive, surprisingly fast. It was nearly as fast in reverse as in forward gears - made quick work of scraping the yards! 😊

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Dan. They seem to have been very popular in the South West of the country compared to other areas. Thanks for watching 👍

Good stuff, interesting video thanks. I remember having the chance to drive a 472synchro in 1982. It was new and was used to move new equipment into and out of an agricultural show… I was fifteen. It was some machine at the time. Also remember reading about how the synchro gearbox evolved out of the old 10 speed box. The engineers were able to use the old housing so were able to save money.

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, yes i would say it was a big machine and a thrill for you to drive back them. Thanks for watching

I'm for northern ireland i know a man that has a few of them in his shed

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍

My dad remembers the silage contractor having a fleet of 270 Leylands, when he was 12 or 13 him and his brothers would go down and pretend to drive them and imagine what it'd be like to have a luxury machine like them on the farm. Some change in what's considered luxury since then.

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

I can imagine! They would have been the height of luxury back then. Thanks for watching

There was one other problem the 485 and 4100 had unfortunately some of them snapped in half due to the 4wd wheels at the front because the brackets weren't reinforced

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I've heard that.. Such a shame proper design engineering wasn't put into them. Thanks for watching 👍

@robo919

3 ай бұрын

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery Agreed, it was a shame because Leyland was doing well at the beginning, but they rushed the heavy duty series and didn't test them, and sadly it backfiredLeyland

Those 2100,s broke a lot of contractors ,great engine but idler reverse was a nightmare especially backing up silage and as for the sliding spline coupler between gearbox and clutch it was the epitome of hardship for many poor divils

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like a nightmare 😕

my dad had a Leyland 272 and also 2100. 2100 was pulling an 8ft john deere trailer mower. Great tractor all round, but from I remember, it gave trouble. I think it was overheating or the head of the engine. it was sold and bought a john deere instead

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

That was a wise move 🤣

@eamonmcgrath6798

3 ай бұрын

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery it was 🤣 but great memories. I have pics of my dad Leyland

I remember a contractor local to me with a pair of 272s 1 on the pit, 1 drawing and a big 2090 on the double chop

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Nice outfit in its day 👌

I had a 272 if I remember correctly back in 1972 there was a gentleman from England that helped me with that tractor I have a farm in Michigan I run the Leyland and Ford tractorsi wish I had them both

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

We all wish we still had the tractors we had years ago 😆

Good video, never had too many Leyland tractors here in West cork, Massey Ferguson, Ford, David Brown, Universal were the main tractors

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, Gearoid. Well done on winning the 100 series book. Get in contact with your details, and I'll get it out to you 👍

@Gearoid35

3 ай бұрын

@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery Thank you I sent you an email

Sunday is a great morning for the Agri videos! My uncle had a few Nuffield and then a couple of leylands . They’d do about 30mph (who needs brakes or steering?)

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Wow, that's some speed. Yes, Sunday seems to be a very popular slot for tractor and farming content. Thanks for watching

@78mikehayes

3 ай бұрын

@@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery no problem. There’ll be a 1200 nearly on the way to Ireland soon. Down to the last bits and bobs in Somerset

Almost 2k subscribers!

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Nearly there 😊

Those were mine in the front cover 😂

@weekendhero_rwj

2 ай бұрын

Have a look at classic tractor restoration at youtube.com/@weekendhero_rwj

Can you a video on marshall

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Yes!! As I said towards the end of the Leyland video, next Sundays video is on Marshall 👍

Would you do a video on JCB from the start? I got a JCB 3D with a Leyland 4/98 engine.

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I will do it at some stage.. If you haven't seen them already, I have a JCB fastrac video and a couple of videos on JCB's development of the hydrogen engine. Thanks for watching 👍

Is it true only 17 282 where sold ,how rare now an where would u get parts for one

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Oh I think it was about 1600 leyland 282 that were built. I see plenty of them advertised for sale in the UK and Ireland. There is plenty of after market parts suppliers like Agriline, QTP, John Conatys etc that still supply parts for them. 👍

When are you going to do a segment on zetor

@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery

3 ай бұрын

Zetor is high up on my list... Should be in the next 2 months or so. Thanks for watching 👍

Sad state of Leyland its like having your hands tie behind your back n trying to swim as manufacturing was mess, short of funds for new products n driving Leyland was like that just basic tractor. By mid to late 80's farming economy was at its worst, only way forward for tractor companies going forward is not just been innovative but offering efficient features. For us it was International 786 with Nuess engine to NH TM125 with 0% interest that improve our farming efficiency, also adding GPS. There were only two ways be taken over by big companies or go different route.

@scorm3088

3 ай бұрын

Leyland wasn't that bad it's a common misconception it's because the 285 and 2100 did bad and everyone assumes all their tractors were bad which isn't the case many of the 4 cylinder Leylands are still out there doing hard work and I have proof

@robo919

3 ай бұрын

This isn't 100% true because at the beginning, Leyland was dominating the agriculture market in the early seventies they were 5th in the market. While yes, Leyland, at the end, was having money issues, they certainly weren't the worst tractors ever. Unfortunately, a lot of people spread misinformation towards Leyland. In fact, Leyland actually revolutionised a lot of things, such as the synchro gearbox mesh they were the first tractor company to utilise this feature, and they had great visibility

@user-qi8ns1fo5d

3 ай бұрын

I wasn't replying that Leyland tractors were bad but just didn't stand out from competition, yes had Q cab, Perkins four cylinder but lack features that competition had. Moving forward from tough times in 80's to 90's tractors had move on n Marshall was on back foot.

@johnw6389

2 ай бұрын

There is more to Leyland then most people know...... it's not just about tractors.... it's the way the world works..... Leyland never made money...... just like 90% of state companies never make money. ..... it's how mafia works. ..... and has always been that way...... the board, the directors, the management, the union, the dealerships were all masons. ...... it was always a money laundering scheme. .... taxpayers paid for it..... wasn't the first time and still going on.... solar scheme,. wind scheme..... heat pump scheme. ..... if the people knew how the world really works. ..... they would have a cold shivering feeling they have been fooled.....

The Leyland were not a patch on their predecessor the ever reliable Nuffield, too much technology and not enough attention paid to the the basics,a fancy grill and bonnet does not make it plow any better, cheers from Tasmania

@weekendhero_rwj

2 ай бұрын

It's the same dna. If anything cooling and weight distribution were better and the 498 engine was an improvement for sure .

@michaelcolgrave4184

2 ай бұрын

Just a quick response to weekend hero, from my own experience I had a 1957 Nuffield 460, which was used mainly for hay contracting,I towed a B55 international wire tie baler until the late sixties, replacing it in 1975 with the Leyland which although had a lot more horsepower , for me that extra power certainly didn't translate to it's performance,I was so disappointed with it I swapped it for a Massey Ferguson 65 but even that didn't compare with the old Nuffield, cheers from Tasmania

@weekendhero_rwj

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelcolgrave4184 still using them to this day. Later synchro models and q cabs were far better and we had a 1060 back in the day on the family farm.. Very similar dna ..leyland 498 engine when looked after will run trouble free.

@michaelcolgrave4184

2 ай бұрын

To weekend hero, yes , the BMC four cylinder motor in our Nuffield was also used in the first of the Leylands following the takeover,I think they shipped them all out here to Australia to get rid of them , I suppose that I'm just a traditionalist I just like the uncomplicated the Nuffield had an engine gearbox, and the necessary gauges , so simple, when I got the Leyland almost everything was electronic and that's where most of the troubles originated from, today's machinery just gives me a headache, cheers from Tasmania

The problems with the Leyland 2100 where do we begin?🥲