A Failed Defect Detector and the Train Derailment at East Palestine

Defect Detector had a bad day and gave multiple hot axle alerts.
Hear the defect messages and find out why the defect detector went haywire.
At the end of the video I will take you inside the detector cabinet and you
can watch the detector as a train passes. There have been no future errant
messages since this video was taken.
Also will give you my thoughts on the horrible Norfolk Southern train
derailment at East Palestine, Ohio. It is so very sad to see events
like this happen. It is not good for the community nor for the railroad
industry.
That was an eastbound NS general merchandise freight train which derailed on
main track 1. As a result of the derailment, 38 rail cars derailed and a fire ensued
that damaged an additional 12 cars. There were 20 total hazardous material cars in
the train consist, 10 of which derailed,
Here is the link to watch more videos about our Hot Wheel Defect Detector:
• Hot Wheel Detector
Check out Ezekiel's You Tube channel for some pretty cool RR videos:
/ @emknapp6713
Made February 12 & 14, 2023
Disclaimer: I am an employee of Iron Synergy at Cumberland
Mine. My job is railroad track maintenance. I am very fortunate to
have this job and everyone at the mine is very fortunate to have
Iron Synergy as it's current owner. Our past owners had every
intention of shutting this mine down, but Iron Synergy took
over and have kept this mine alive.
Please understand: I am NOT in any way an official or unofficial
spokes person for Iron Synergy or Cumberland Mine. Any viewpoints,
opinions or anything that I show in the videos, or write in the video
descriptions or any answer to any comment, should NEVER be
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Cumberland Mine, any of the mine's management, any of the
contractors that may be shown in any video, nor of any of
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Any viewpoints or opinions I may make in the videos, in the descriptions,
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#DefectDetector#TrainDerailmentEastPalestine#TrainDerailment

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  • @ccrx6700
    @ccrx6700 Жыл бұрын

    The NTSB issued a preliminary report on what happened at East Palestine. Report was issued February 23. Here is a link to the community tab on my home channel page where you can read the report. kzread.infoUgkxXbwjK74K3m78tmxUzEsJBWCnIN5l3DWA

  • @MydogTobes

    @MydogTobes

    Жыл бұрын

    KZread shut that down. I can not watch it.

  • @vinnypinatelli221

    @vinnypinatelli221

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this I really enjoy your videos my friend!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vinnypinatelli221 👍😊

  • @madmax2069

    @madmax2069

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@MydogTobes no they didn't, it's not a link to a video, it's a link to a community post with a link to the article.

  • @madmax2069

    @madmax2069

    Жыл бұрын

    @carmineredd * 13:44

  • @TheNemosdaddy
    @TheNemosdaddy Жыл бұрын

    Dave, I have confirmation that it WAS indeed a burned off journal. Inside wheel, and what's causing all the sparks is the wheel is being pulled against the brake beam and causing the wheels to slide at high speed. The bearing was trending for 3 detectors prior, the dispatched failed to notify the crew. Like you had said this all started right after the Salem detector and by the time they got to the E. Palestine detector it was beginning to derail. They went into emergency before the engineer could react, and that's all she wrote. This information comes directly from NS supervision at Conway yard, relayed to my my supervision.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the valuable and accurate information. We really appreciate your taking the time to share that with us my good man. I have no clue what NS rules are as far as trending bearings go, ie., how much of a bearing temperature increase is allowed between detectors, let us hope dispatch followed NS protocol on that.

  • @SOU6900

    @SOU6900

    Жыл бұрын

    So the detectors on that route don't report when it's determined a hot box then?

  • @MaidensWorldOfWax

    @MaidensWorldOfWax

    Жыл бұрын

    The "Key" piece of information being "the dispatched failed to notify the crew"

  • @frederickwise5238

    @frederickwise5238

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MaidensWorldOfWax Electronic detectors and their transmitter supposedly send information on any anomaly with the train to the engineer by shortwave radio. Number of axels back from the loco if any errors and total axels if all was OK at the end of the train.

  • @ocsrc

    @ocsrc

    Жыл бұрын

    I bet the people with the 3 initials in the offices on the top floor told dispatch to ignore the alarms and get the train to the destination Because it was running late. Precision railroading is going to kill a lot of people

  • @6firefightin
    @6firefightin Жыл бұрын

    You know what I like about you? Besides you’re so nice and you take the time to do this for us! You’re such a genuinely happy person! No matter what! You rock brother!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Well golly.... I'm blushing..... Thank you for your very kind words. We very much appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in tonight my friend.

  • @T.J.Kennedy

    @T.J.Kennedy

    Жыл бұрын

    Right? Heck of a cheery disposition, especially for a troubleshooter with a problem. I sure wouldn't be smiling with a problem like that to deal with.

  • @christopherhelms7290

    @christopherhelms7290

    Жыл бұрын

    Having one of the best jobs in the world probably helps in the Happiness department.

  • @fyou2327

    @fyou2327

    Жыл бұрын

    How dare you call him a rock brother. Wait, what's a rock brother?

  • @bradcrosier1332

    @bradcrosier1332

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. There are a few channels I can always count on to being a smile to my face, and this is definitely one of them! I love the positivity that comes through on all of these videos as well as the very informative content!

  • @deathwishdrang1780
    @deathwishdrang1780 Жыл бұрын

    Wow Dave, I learned more from you in 10 minutes about the Ohio NS derailment than the 2 weeks of so-called reporting in the news, NS press releases or NTSB reports, and even though speculation, you explained enough for me to understand what I see there now, thank you!

  • @paulnicholson1906

    @paulnicholson1906

    Жыл бұрын

    The weird thing is that they enact new regulations to supposedly change things for the better but end up doing nothing. There has been a lot of talk about improved braking technology but this latest accident is most likely nothing to do with that. To put in perspective on a 150 car train there are 1200 wheel bearings. Only one failure most likely lead to this. The other thing is a safety system that gives to many false alarms will be ignored.

  • @fyou2327

    @fyou2327

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paulnicholson1906 too* many.

  • @fyou2327

    @fyou2327

    Жыл бұрын

    Defective tech...simple as that? How about the train in Michigan as well? BOTH carrying hazardous materials... Coincidence?

  • @thekingsilverado3266

    @thekingsilverado3266

    Жыл бұрын

    Wake up it was Amtrak Joe that did it... Nobody can cause a better train wreck and in this case that is fact

  • @paulnicholson1906

    @paulnicholson1906

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thekingsilverado3266 not a bad joke.

  • @michaelbrash8843
    @michaelbrash8843 Жыл бұрын

    I trust your info much more than a non railroad reporter. Thank you for the info.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Michael, I watched a few news reports and yep, reporters don't have a clue, thought I would share some real railroad info with you guys.

  • @lawrencegolba2244
    @lawrencegolba2244 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Years ago for a couple of mornings I heard a screeching noise. Didn't know the source. I happened to be up earlier another morning and heard it approaching from a distance. Got dressed and walked 1/8 mile to the end of our street to the rail line. Train was coming out of the yard 2 miles away. Sound was very loud. Got the numbers from the car and called the railroad. Apparently they took care of the problem. How it went undetected for several days is scary.

  • @loyddussault5101

    @loyddussault5101

    Жыл бұрын

    It went undetected because they are used to false alarms and disregard them as such .

  • @quashiesuzanne

    @quashiesuzanne

    Жыл бұрын

    You saved lives

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the nice comment Lawrence. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @beverlymichael5830
    @beverlymichael5830 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining what could have happened in Ohio. My heart breaks for people and animals affected. And this will be affecting all these people for years.

  • @wolfgangk2824

    @wolfgangk2824

    Жыл бұрын

    Shooting down weather balloons is more important than maintenance on trains.

  • @SovereignTroll

    @SovereignTroll

    Жыл бұрын

    You cannot return to the 3x5 mile downwind area safely for a long time or soil must be removed. Children, gardens and pets will be exposed to a cocktail from incomplete combustion and soot.

  • @BlueAgaveStudios

    @BlueAgaveStudios

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wolfgangk2824 I think that is the poison talking point they keep putting out. Every time you hear it you hear a maga crawling under a rock.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome Beverly, for sure we are all heart broken for the residents there. This kind of stuff casts a bad light on all the rail industry. Thanks so much for visiting with us and writing in my friend.

  • @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783

    @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SovereignTroll working on a solutions video, corn and lavender can pull contaminates from the soil, they're used to reclaim mining land that's been wrecked. Various fungus and bacteria can break down contaminates into non toxic elements. Activated charcoal can be used in your soil to neutralize (for lack of better word atm) the toxins as well, holding them in the little crevices until they break down or some worm, fungus or bacteria breaks them down first. Restoring the land can be done and rather quickly implementing these techniques. The water is what I'm more concerned about. I need to research more about this and the natural path from the area affected to give a respectable solution. The fear-porn click bait videos without solutions is no help to the community and much of it isn't accurate. It's very frustrating. Seems there's an effort to bolster distrust in public servants and businesses which do themselves no help by their corruption and greed. This building up, unchecked will only bait us into destroying ourselves from within. Not a good thing. We got to build and fix things, not burn ourselves down so the enemy can swoop in and finish us off. So, have a blessed week! 😂 🙏💯😊👍🕊️💯

  • @divox9pqr
    @divox9pqr Жыл бұрын

    For us railroadies who love anything and everything dealing with the rails, I thank you for your videos, and thanks to my Brother Craig Brown who worked for NS for over 30 yrs, I follow their derailments and other events.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Rodney for your very nice comment. We really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in today my friend.

  • @ronpearson6008
    @ronpearson6008 Жыл бұрын

    Dave, your commentary is exemplary regarding the Ohio incident and I hope a cause is determined quickly.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment Ron. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @robertway5756
    @robertway5756 Жыл бұрын

    Working at a plant that builds and tests locos for a living, we here can appreciate the complexities of these various safety systems, and the fact that sometimes the sensor itself is the problem. This Ohio situation interests and concerns me greatly. Good video, thanx! 👍

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Today the NTSB has issued a preliminary report on what happened at E. Palestine. Here is link to the community tab on my home channel to read what the report says Robert: kzread.infoUgkxXbwjK74K3m78tmxUzEsJBWCnIN5l3DWA

  • @robertway5756

    @robertway5756

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 So now I'm wondering if the electronic brake systems that there's been so much attention focused on would have made any difference, since the derail wasn't apparently even verified until after the train had already stopped. 🤔 My understanding is that it would auto apply brakes to cars that are *behind* the derail, to prevent them crashing into the ones ahead of them. But then, aren't air brakes designed to "fail-safe" and apply braking if they lose air pressure anyways? 🤔

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @robertway5756 yes they are Robert. Once train brake pipe loses air then all brakes are applied

  • @kevinaurandt6280
    @kevinaurandt6280 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the explanations/demonstrations. In time a better understanding of the events in Ohio will be known from the causal factors, and subsequent events. Prayers for the people impacted by the event, and hope their conditions are improved quickly.

  • @thekingsilverado3266

    @thekingsilverado3266

    Жыл бұрын

    Better get a grip on who & what is causing all this chaos... Communist Amtrak Joe & da Hoe...

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much Kevin for the nice comment. We certainly do appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation my friend.

  • @ganggreen9012
    @ganggreen9012 Жыл бұрын

    Back in the late 1970's when I was in junior high school we were sitting at a crossing in town and one of the cars had a flaming wheel box. As soon as we got home my dad called the local police department and reported it to them so they could call the railroad.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for sharing that with us. Yes sir, good move on your dad's part. Very much appreciate your paying us a visit and checking out the presentation my friend.

  • @D.J.Trump2024MAGA

    @D.J.Trump2024MAGA

    Жыл бұрын

    narc, I would not report it, I would follow the train with my camera on so I could catch the derailment and sell the video.

  • @Seaverhamlin
    @Seaverhamlin Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the teaching on this. As you said you are not this expert on this incident, but your understanding into what MIGHT have happened is still highly interesting. We will wait for the NTSB report. Thanks for you sharing your knowledge and doing so honestly as you know it. Your videos are always so family friendly and so worth watching every one! Thanks again!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Jeff for the very kind comment. I agree, NTSB report will give us the info. But I did want to share some things that most folks don't know about with detectors and derailments. I will be most interested in learning what they find out. And you are correct, my hypothesis is what MIGHT have happened. We certainly appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.

  • @suzannehartmann946

    @suzannehartmann946

    Жыл бұрын

    Given the behavior of the uhm person supposedly in charge of NTSB that report will be quite a while yet.

  • @axxeminister
    @axxeminister Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave! BTW, those tank cars derailed in accordion fashion because they are equipped with shelf couplers. Designed to keep cars from coming apart and having a coupler puncture the tank car. I love watching your videos. Thanks!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the nice comment. We certainly do appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation my friend.

  • @jdlives8992

    @jdlives8992

    Жыл бұрын

    great video. kinda worrisome that a space heater not working caused a issue. there are way more reliable means to maintain certain temps than that. with redundancy. probably cheaper too! subscribed ! look forwards to watching more on your content

  • @raymondsprengelmeyer1278
    @raymondsprengelmeyer1278 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dave! Sometimes I think technology makes the job more complicated, when the equipment malfunctions. Thank you for sharing your expertise about the train wreck!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for paying us a visit Raymond. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment my friend.

  • @lewistodd9242
    @lewistodd9242 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave. As a retired electronics technician I have seen different environments and especially cold do pretty strange things to the equipment. Have a great day my friend.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lewis, glad you enjoyed. Appreciate your input from an expert in the field of electronics. I'm very glad you told me that info, will most certainly come in handy knowing that sometime in the future around here. Always is a delight to have you visit and write in my friend.

  • @Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on

    @Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 I do Electronics as a job also I would guess it got cold and you had water between 2 spots on 1 of the green board's. Once the temp got up the water went away. Fault now gone.

  • @paintballthieupwns

    @paintballthieupwns

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on - 100% condensation was the first thing i thought of when he said the heater fixed it.

  • @brianleeper5737

    @brianleeper5737

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paintballthieupwns For as much as they charge for that equipment, the boards should have a conformal coating, like the ECU in a car that costs 1/5 the price.

  • @zenoelea8239

    @zenoelea8239

    Жыл бұрын

    Someone cocked up on the environmental spec for the PC boards and cabinets.

  • @theodoreshasta7846
    @theodoreshasta7846 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Dave. The ‘inside look’ at this equipment and how it operates is very interesting and much appreciated.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for paying us a visit Theodore. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment my friend.

  • @johnl8996
    @johnl8996 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your expert assessment of the horror in Ohio. Hopefully the details come out soon as to why/what/when/etc.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you John very much for the nice comment. We certainly do appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation my friend. NTSB are the real experts and hopefully soon will see their report.

  • @TPW900GP35
    @TPW900GP35 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this sane look at this tragedy! I too am a former rail- roader and feel sorry for the people getting flack while just doing their jobs, whether train crew, investigators or whoever. I’d hate to see anyone lose their job in a knee jerk reaction, instead of waiting for all the info is in! I also feel sorry for NS as a whole, or maybe railroading in general, as this is going to be very expensive!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment TPW. You are right, it is very sad for everyone involved and not good for the entire rail industry.We very much appreciate your taking the time to stop by today and watch my friend.

  • @Hyrev1
    @Hyrev1 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your insight into what may have happened in Ohio..can't imagine the horrible tragedy those folks were/are going through. And thanks for showing us what a headache faulty detection devices can be. Great video Dave!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome Jim, it is very sad what happened our hearts go out to all involved. We certainly do appreciate your dropping by and checking out the presentation today my friend.

  • @johnwattdotca

    @johnwattdotca

    Жыл бұрын

    I've been watching this derailment news for over two weeks and nobody is blaming a detection device. It's all about the brakes, and brake updates Obama wanted that Trump removed.

  • @Justfor1day
    @Justfor1day Жыл бұрын

    I found this to be educational...with the wreck in Ohio people for some reason have been more vocal about what railroads transport and the safety measures they take. Accidents happen but catastrophic ones are hard to get over.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Michael for the very nice comment. Glad you enjoyed. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Yes, sadly things like this happen, it is not good for the entire rail industry and yes you are right, this will be a big one to get over.

  • @WaterMan416

    @WaterMan416

    Жыл бұрын

    "for some reason" come TF on dude. You know the reason. And the railroad unions have been warning of staff shortages and cuts leading to less maintenance getting done, and less people for car checks to find problems.

  • @danielhutchinson6604

    @danielhutchinson6604

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WaterMan416 The timing of the event so soon after the Administration decided that Rail Workers are not pushed beyond the limits of human ability, seemed to be very wrong? The economic devotion to Profits before People seems to become evident as the Investors appear to be the only folks the Government defends? Shareholder values seem to have wandered beyond the limitations of human ability? Hollywood could not have written a more stupid script......

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us, Dave. I've heard all sorts of crazy claims, including the idea that Norfolk Southern is derailing trains on purpose for some mysterious, nefarious purpose. Glad to have a dose of sanity and reason. Not surprised that a computer would malfunction with the heater off -- they do tend to be sensitive to temperature and moisture. :)

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome MB. Thank you for the very nice comment. I listened to several news broadcasts and these reporters don't have a clue about railroading. Conspiracy theorists seem to abound in this day and age don't they. These events are very sad and cast a dim light on the entire rail industry. Very, very sad to see this happen. We really appreciate your watching and writing in my friend. As of yesterday NTSB confirmed a wheel bearing went bad and the train went into emergency after the car derailed and air hoses came apart. The axle with the bad bearing did skew and press against the brake beam which applied the brakes as it was going down track before the derailment. So I was right in that the car wheels were sliding causing the sparks.

  • @mbvoelker8448

    @mbvoelker8448

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 Thank you so much for that update. Some people just don't grasp the fact that accidents happen sometimes and nothing made by the hand of man is 100% failure proof.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mbvoelker8448 👍😊

  • @meanwolverine4573

    @meanwolverine4573

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 Is it just a conspiracy theory that the company and the propaganda news tried to hide info on what hazmats were spilled and that the entire area is now safe and effective? I am a railfan and subscriber to your channel and do not believe the wreck was intentionally caused by crew or maintenance. I DO believe we are being constantly lied to by those who we pay and expect to be truthful. The word "secret" is repugnant in a free society. JFK

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@meanwolverine4573 this was not an intentional event my friend. Albeit tho a very very sad one

  • @melchristian8876
    @melchristian8876 Жыл бұрын

    I feel really sad my heart goes out to people that were in that train accident thank you for the information 🙏🙏

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome Mel, yes sir it was so sad it all happened. Most RR safety rules were written in blood, hopefully this tragedy will bring on new and improved safety rules for the rail industry. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend.

  • @ryanfrogz
    @ryanfrogz Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video! I’ve never seen the inside of a DD before, always expected it to be a bit more... chaotic. I’ve heard that voice in a few different spots, sounds so much different without the radio grain! Thanks for uploading as always.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for paying us a visit Ryan. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for your always nice comments my friend.

  • @858493
    @858493 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing yes scary stuff no matter how hard we try it all happens sometimes. And hot box detectors like axle counters, scotch blocks etc all can have intermittent faults...we have a Junction here in the State of Victoria in Australia called Newport near Melbourne, it used to be an old interlocking manned frame signal-box, looked like it was straight out of England in the 1800s it never failed now its been up graded with electronics, every time it rains it faults out all signals back to danger tracks down etc....we now call Newport "malfunction junction"....lol...thanks for sharing...regards Doc from Down Under

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Now isn't that quite interesting! Thanks so much for sharing Doc. We have 4 electric switches, 3 work perfect all the time, every time it rains the 4th one shorts out and needs to be reset. Had a guy from Union Pacific tell me they had a similar problem with a new electric switch and finally just had to put a whole new one in. Malfunction junction... I like that. Always appreciate your visiting and hearing from you my friend from down under.

  • @larrythorn4715
    @larrythorn4715 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video as usual, and thanks for the input on the Ohio derailment. An unfortunate event but I'm glad it was not worse. Love watching those SD38-2s do their thing, they're basically just an improved SD7 or SD9, long lineage back to the first six axle diesels.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Larry, very glad you enjoyed it. We certainly do appreciate your stopping by and watching the show today my friend.

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 Жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate your expert "speculation" on the rail disaster....thank you Dave!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you fireball, don't know about expert, but have come to find out the truck set wheels were in fact sliding on the rails causing the sparks. A wheel bearing had gone bad and skewed the axle so it was pushing against the brake beam holding the brakes on. That new info just came to light this afternoon by NTSB.Always appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.

  • @ericcoffedgp40
    @ericcoffedgp40 Жыл бұрын

    Great job explaining that Dave, I'm sure you helped alot of people (including myself) understand what happened.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Eric. NTSB has recovered the truck set that first derailed and it is being sent to a lab for investigation. What we did find out today, new info. A bearing failed, axle skewed and was pressing against the brake beam which acted like the brakes were applied and the wheels were sliding on the rails, so I was right in part of my speculation. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.

  • @mshum538
    @mshum538 Жыл бұрын

    Dave , your hot box timing and the Ohio incident upload together has got you some nice hits, good going….👍

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    It appears that's true. Rather weird this detector decided to goof up at this time. I think the little guy living in the cabinet got lonely and wanted some attention, well, he got it and now he's a big YT star.... LOL Thank you very kindly for dropping by and checking out the presentation my friend.

  • @PlanetMojo
    @PlanetMojo Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the commentary on the East Palestine derailment Dave! I've been following that incident, and wondered what the pros were thinking about it. I can relate to your defect detector. Sometimes you just need a little warmth to get you going in the morning 😉

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    If you were wanting a pro comment, you should look for another channel.... LOL Very much appreciate the nice comment and for watching my friend. I saw several news reports and it's like, wow these reporters don't have a clue....

  • @wendymcfadyen-allerby6142
    @wendymcfadyen-allerby6142 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dave this was very interesting. My thoughts go out to the people of Ohio. You and your team work hard to keep everyone safe on the rails. Keep safe :)

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome Wendy, glad you enjoyed. Yes we all feel for the residents and businesses in E. Palestine along with the train crew. Thank you very much for watching and writing in my friend.

  • @BryanTorok
    @BryanTorok Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining about the train going into emergency and the cars ending up jack knifed in a zig-zag fashion. I had wondered about that since seeing the first reports of this. If I understood you correctly, you mentioned being about 50 miles away from the derailment in PA. I hope you are now where close to being in the down wind path of the smoke. I feel really sorry for those people, not just in East Palestine, but anyone within 50 to 100 miles down wind is likely to have toxic fall out on their property. And, anyone along the Ohio River for many miles is likely to see the results of contamination. You be careful and stay safe.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your certainly welcome Bryan. We appreciate your taking the time to watch the presentation and share with us your thoughts my friend. yes we all feel really bad for the residents there. Very sad.

  • @jasonbabila6006
    @jasonbabila6006 Жыл бұрын

    We had a similar situation last month with a hot wheel on an eastbound train, we have multiple hot wheel detectors along the ROW and the dispatchers are always monitoring it, the hot wheel caught the attention of the dispatcher and let the train continue on until it passed the third hot wheel detector and notified the train crew to set out the car in town.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Apparently new info out Jason, this bearing went bad which caused the skewed axle to press against the brake pads which sent the wheel sliding along the rail. However also, this bearing had been trending for 3 detectors back from E. Palestine. Since the detector did not give an alarm, engineer didn't get a message. However NS had it set up so a warning message was sent to dispatch about it trending. We do not know what NS protocol is for the amount of temp increase allowed for each succeeding detector, nor do we know the bearing temps at each detector. Hope and pray dispatch followed NS rules.

  • @mountainman5025

    @mountainman5025

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 Dispatch caused the derailment in Paulsboro, NJ also.

  • @shirleyharrington-moore9657
    @shirleyharrington-moore9657 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation, Dave. Lots of things can and do go wrong.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Shirley for the kind comment We do so appreciate your faithful watching my friend.

  • @johncloar1692
    @johncloar1692 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave for the video. Your insight is always welcome.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome John. Thank you for taking the time to watch the presentation and write in my friend.

  • @Decentralized_Maze
    @Decentralized_Maze Жыл бұрын

    Dave... I'm in Ohio and family within a few miles of the accident unfortunately. I appreciate your channel, educational info, eyes view of railroad life, and explaining possible likelihoods (or not). I'm from the environmental remediation sector also, so this one hits close to my heart in many ways. The entire video was refreshing to watch. Again, thank you.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment, so glad you are enjoying the videos. We really appreciate your wonderful support my friend. That was an extreme tragedy at EP. Sadly most RR safety rules in the past were written in blood. Hopefully new and improved safety regulations will now be made for the industry. The NTSB today has issued a preliminary report on what happened at E. Palestine you may like to read. Here is a link to the community tab on my home channel page where you can read the report. kzread.infoUgkxXbwjK74K3m78tmxUzEsJBWCnIN5l3DWA

  • @TonyLasagna
    @TonyLasagna Жыл бұрын

    This is why I love your channel - honest, awesome, informative.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Golly Tony, what a very nice comment. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and write in my friend. We really do appreciate that.

  • @TonyLasagna

    @TonyLasagna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 my pleasure man! keep up the good work. whereabouts are you guys?

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TonyLasagna thank you we in SW Pa. Hour south Pittsburgh

  • @TonyLasagna

    @TonyLasagna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 gotcha. you’ve probably said that in a video before but sometimes these things escape me. 👌🏻😆

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TonyLasagna 👍😊

  • @jason27swg
    @jason27swg Жыл бұрын

    Dave, Great video as usual! As you and I have spoken about many times before. Things happen on the rails no one could ever guess why. So much technology has been Intergraged over the years some for the best some not so good! Nothing and I mean nothing will ever replace the human eyes the human touch or smell. Those are all useful on the railroad. You can see when something is not right you can feel when something is not right and you can smell when something is not right. There is something about my sight feel and smell that's not right about the NS derailment....like you I was not there I was not at the throttle something caused the train to go into e brake busted hose or in the cab. As your video proved defeat degectors are not always 100 percent...as bad as this sounds I hope that was the case and the in cab crew didn't ignore the warning ..time will tell...let the cards fall as they may either way NS has a major clean up

  • @cdavid8139

    @cdavid8139

    Жыл бұрын

    After working in this industry for decades I am going to take a slight exception to the comment "nothing will replace human eyes'. I get what you are saying and I agree...somewhat. But humans make mistakes. They don't pay attention. They run red lights. The speed. They cut you off in traffic. They don't look back over their train. They don't check their airplane before taking off. With trains exceeding a mile in length more dependence on technology becomes vital.

  • @jason27swg

    @jason27swg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cdavid8139 I agree with what you are saying too. However, we have become so dependent on technology that it has made us lazy. In my final years with norfolk southern. All I had to do was rely on trip optimizer and let it go. More knuckles were broken while running TO than any other time in my career...first thing that's asked was from the dispatcher...was train in trip optimzer...once I said yes they said ok.... had I said no paperwork meetings and all kinda mess would have been in play. You can listen to a locomotive feel it beneath you and know what's going on.... guages are good they make it easier. You can smell a scorched pan of potatoes and not have to stir the pot so to speak. We are a computerized world like it or lump it we have taken so much of the human element out of every day life. Railroads are no exception. Given Dave's situation in his latest video. They had 4 people pk the ground as the train went by ...don't think for one minute a class 1 would have done that...only after a derailment

  • @cdavid8139

    @cdavid8139

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jason27swg I hear what you are saying. Not sure I disagree with what you wrote...on the hole. On the other hand you know for a fact that there are trainmen (and truckers and sailors) who are not 100 percent dependable. How many times when you were running did you find yourself nodding off or look over and see your conductor paying no attention to what was going on around them. Somewhere out there a blend of technology and common sense works best

  • @larrybe2900

    @larrybe2900

    Жыл бұрын

    I just mentioned in another video about planes encountering more close calls that the human condition is what it is and functions poorly in boredom. I mentioned in yet another video thread that the timing of this incident immediately followed the spy matter. Just how much of rail load contents is available on line or is it all internal? Who is this administration allowing into our country? This aspect CANNOT be dismissed. Can these sensors be temporarily defeated and no one be the wiser?

  • @TheNemosdaddy

    @TheNemosdaddy

    Жыл бұрын

    From inside sources, the dispatcher ignored the trending hotbox alert. The bearing failed after passing a detector and once it was a hit it was too late, no way to stop in time.

  • @shawnpowell5876
    @shawnpowell5876 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video and tutorial on the East Palestine derailment and the problem with the defect detector there. How crazy was it that Jerry fixed it by turning the heater on lol! Always enjoy your videos Dave and no matter what the problem is you take the time to explain to us railfans what caused it along with a possible resolution. You're always happy and certainly enjoy what you do to produce a great video! We appreciate you along with your PRICELESS time and effort my friend! Cheers from Delmar, Delaware

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment Shawn. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @johnmurray4578
    @johnmurray4578 Жыл бұрын

    Dave, Thank you for being a great teacher and professional!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you John for the very kind words. We really appreciate your taking time out of your busy day to watch the video and write in my friend. Curious, are your the John Murray photographer who took a pic of our original #1 loco with the blue US Steel cars over top of our tunnel? If so my wife bought that photo for me for Christmas this year

  • @johnmurray4578

    @johnmurray4578

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 Dave, I’m not the photographer John Murray you mentioned in your note.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @John Murray ok thanks for let me know. He has some stunning photography of trains and nature. Check out his web site sometime

  • @dennisb-trains23
    @dennisb-trains23 Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic explanation Dave! I read a few articles online about Ohio but I don't believe much in the media. I really like how you pointed out how and why the cars were stacked the way they were. 👍👍

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dennis for the very nice comment. news media I watched the reporters were clueless about RR. Glad we don't have these kind of incidents on the DBRX. You run a tight ship my friend!

  • @Em22-wtf

    @Em22-wtf

    Жыл бұрын

    It also sounds like the people running these trains have to be A. Brave, lol, bc I ain't getting out and walking the entire length of a train, on track in the middle of the woods, alone at night lol! And B. They also seem to have to be extremely patient... Because this man said "at walking speed" 😳 THAT must make for a LONG night at work!!! Given the people running the train that night wasn't rushing or that they they did everything they could to prevent this or even didn't know there was problem....and I don't even know if they lived, I haven't looked that much into it....I definitely appreciate the ones that do their job to a T even if it means traveling at a walking pace, for safety sake, and not getting home for probably HOURS later than they were supposed to. We live next to a railroad track where a train comes through often and there are a LOT of children living in just my apartment complex alone. I can't imagine that happening right outside my back door!! It's very scary, but it's also comforting to know there are guys out there that absolutely do everything right to prevent accidents from happening and communities from having to deal with utter destruction. Again, I thank you ❤️♥️

  • @johnsmart964
    @johnsmart964 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people. We are grateful for talking about the situation in Ohio, though I am sure that there will be a major enquiry into what happened. It shows the importance of these hot axle / hot wheel detectors. Just a little warm air seemed to sort out the problem of your detector. I am aware that electrical items do not like things too cold or for that matter too hot. It is always reassuring to hear those words, "no defects".

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome John and thank you so much for your very nice comment. It certainly is hearing no defects, you don't know how good it feels to hear that. Everytime a train passes the detector you always have this little voice in your head anxiously awaiting a good call. Always appreciate your paying us a visit and hearing from you my friend.

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman7164 Жыл бұрын

    Glad you put in the caption comments. I know you were NOT assigning blame, because I've watched enough of your videos that I think I know you wouldn't do that. But adding the captions certainly helps to clarify that. Like explaining that it wasn't the engineer that threw the train into emergency, but rather the separation of the brake line. Good job to hear from someone knowledgeable and that you don't second-guess what happens. If only more news outlets would do the same. I've heard so many networks speculating about everything from unions, to regulators, to who-knows-what. Before all the facts are known. Just glad nobody was killed, and hope there won't be any long-lasting effects of the spill.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mike for the very kind words. Yes sir, that was why those captions were in there, I would never blame an engineer or even cast doubt about one, that is for the NTSB to determine. I really appreciate that you recognized what I was trying to do there! Very much appreciate your writing in with that my friend.

  • @barbararoberto1258
    @barbararoberto1258 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Mr Dave I heard about that horrible accident, you explained it very well, it was awful, stay safe and keep up the good work.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Barbara, yes it was tragic, no one in the rail industry likes to see stuff like that happen. Thank you for your kind words and for taking the time to watch my friend.

  • @richardaustin2640
    @richardaustin2640 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video Dave. Modern technology is a wonderful thing....when it works! Unfortunately failures do occur and can lead to less than desirable outcomes.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Richard, glad you enjoyed. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @jasonplatco7881
    @jasonplatco7881 Жыл бұрын

    According to the reports coming out now from the ongoing investigation it was a bearing that failed. Not dissimilar to the one you had on you're coal train some time back. Camera footage showing it in the "late stages of bearing faleure" before derailment. And they are sending what's left off for metallurgical testing to try to figure out why it failed. Basicly the root cause was a mantinence issue, failed mechanical part. There's a growing debate about federal regs that were scrapped years ago that could have minimized the severity of the derailment, aswell as questions about exactly why the clearly hazardous cargo wasn't requiered to be handled as such by NS via regulations. There seems to be a lot of blame being put on the govt by individuals online (partisan politics) and even consperacy theories propagating. All of which I find shameful. Real lives are being impacted by this, dead pets, risk of serious cancers down the road, water and land contamination. And the hyper politicization helps none of them.

  • @jaymorgan8017

    @jaymorgan8017

    Жыл бұрын

    Well the conspiracy theorists are usually on to something and eventually proven correct in their pursuits of the truth. The virus could not have come from a lab for example.

  • @meanwolverine4573

    @meanwolverine4573

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes Virginia, there ARE evil people in high places who want to eliminate 7 billion, 500 million people from this planet. They use any and all means to acheive their goals. Drugs, hazmats, wars. Their bloodlines have been rulers and royalty for millennia. It will be easier to control 500,000,000 slaves than 8 billion. They do not care what your politics or ethnicity are. This is why many "folks" distrust big business and government. Rule #1, do not trust your mainstream news or government. They are paid by the "cabal". They will steer you toward danger, not from it! YOU are the carbon (((they))) want to eliminate...

  • @tonyburzio4107

    @tonyburzio4107

    Жыл бұрын

    There are whole books of regulation on hazmat shipments, none of them worked.

  • @mrtechie6810

    @mrtechie6810

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't you think there is any responsibility, if maximizing profit over safety?

  • @jasonplatco7881

    @jasonplatco7881

    Жыл бұрын

    @mrtechie6810 there's always responsibility. What caused the derailment to happen was a mechanical faleure. But the responsibility lies in the decisions that made the derailment worse via opposing/lobbying against electronic breaking mandate, running much longer trains, even axle builders buying cheap Chinese bearings that don't hold up as long or as well compared to US produced.

  • @edwarddavis507
    @edwarddavis507 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the education Dave!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much Edward for the really kind words. We very much appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.

  • @coldwaterjimmy7044
    @coldwaterjimmy7044 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. Thank you for the breakdown of the technical aspects of this detection device.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment coldwaterjimmy. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @jeffsutherland1602
    @jeffsutherland1602 Жыл бұрын

    Dave, I know exactly where that hot wheel (and dragging equipment) detector in Salem is. Visited the very same spot with an NS signal technician a few years back when I was doing some consulting work for one of their suppliers. You guys aren't the only ones who have to constantly deal with issues in those detectors. Given the environment that those sensors have to endure it's a wonder they work at all. What the NS guys really hated about them was when it snows they constantly have to run around clearing the snow off of them to keep them from throwing faults when a train passes over.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting Jeff, thanks so much for sharing. Cameras have heaters in them which help with a light snow, but heavy snow have to keep them cleaned off too. Always appreciate your paying us a visit and hearing from you my friend.

  • @christopherleubner6633

    @christopherleubner6633

    Жыл бұрын

    The detectors have a camera and a noncontact thermopile like the kind in a forehead fever thermometer inside. If dirt or snow or water gets in, they are not gonna work properly.

  • @gfriedman99
    @gfriedman99 Жыл бұрын

    Dave, nothing worse to do than diagnose an intermittent problem. I would think there's a way to look at a history report in that computer and see exactly what the readings are from the infrared cameras. That way you could at least tell which of the 4 cameras is flaky. Interesting stuff and thanks for educating us.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    You are sure right in that gfriedman. The computer we have stores 100 trains then starts to write over them. Our guy was on phone later that day with tech from progress rail, although I don't know what they came up with but detector has worked perfectly since. Very much appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.

  • @Santafefrank
    @Santafefrank Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave my heart and Prayers go to the people of that town.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your welcome Frank, yes sir what a tragedy for the folks and RR out there, Stuff like that is never good for the RR industry. Thanks so much for your thinking of those folks and praying for them, we all need to follow your suit on that my good man.

  • @icounted9528
    @icounted9528 Жыл бұрын

    Dave thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your certainly welcome icounted. We always appreciate having you visit with us and hearing from you my friend.

  • @zalmaflash
    @zalmaflash Жыл бұрын

    Good on-site demonstration. Thanks.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the nice comment. We certainly do appreciate your paying us a visit and watching the presentation my friend.

  • @joefin5900
    @joefin5900 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for bringing trains, and railroading to us. I'm a Rock Island AB6 fan!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome Joe. We certainly appreciate your taking the time to stop by and watch my friend.

  • @electronictim007
    @electronictim007 Жыл бұрын

    What a great video! As a " non-expert" , your comments and insights are both instructive and timely!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, very glad you enjoyed it. We certainly do appreciate your stopping by and watching the show today my friend.

  • @mattberg916
    @mattberg916 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the straight insight Dave! Back when I was railroadin hot boxes were checked immediately but reading the comments it seems the procedure has changed and the crew may not even be notified of a developing issue until apparently it's too late. Seems a terrible practice to delay Inspection

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome Matt, apparently in this case a bearing was getting hot, engineer did not get a message because an alarm was not sent by the detector. However detector was programmed to send a warning message to dispatch of a trending hot bearing. We do not know what NS protocol is for how much of a temp increase is allowed between detectors nor do we know the exact bearing temps that were recorded. NTSB will find that info out. Appreciate your watching my friend.

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 Жыл бұрын

    Given this, I wonder if the defect detector was giving off the hot axle alert so many times that at one point, people just assumed a train was fine when in reality (as was the case in what would have soon became East Palestine) there truly was a defect. I think this may be a big reason why the crew likely didn't know that there was a defect until it was too late, but we'll have to wait on the official NTSB report for that.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    What happened at E. Palestine was a tragedy. We feel so sorry for all involved, the residents and the RR. We will await for the official NTSB report. They will investigate every single detail of all the events that happened. This is a very high profile case with all the lawsuits filed and environmental concerns. A lot of money will be riding on their findings. So very sad it happened. In the past a lot of RR safety rules have been written in blood sadly. Hopefully this tragic incidence will bring into play a new, better set of safety regulations for the rail industry. We certainly do appreciate your watching the video and for writing in my friend.

  • @morse2795
    @morse2795 Жыл бұрын

    Another one of your mighty fine videos Dave. Keep railroadin!!!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you morse for the very kind words. We always appreciate having you join in with us and watch my friend.

  • @mwjones71
    @mwjones71 Жыл бұрын

    Nice explanation Dave. I don't know about NS, but I know BNSF has gone to "talk on defect only" on their wayside detectors (as a railfan that was a disappointment because I used to hear the detectors when taking pictures so I could predict when a train was near my location). So it is possible that the defector was inoperative and didn't announce a defect - and if NS has that same rule, the crew might of not known there was an alarm. From the news reports I've seen the NTSB seems to be on that and they've pulled the detector's local logs, so when the final report comes out it will say if the detector was malfunctioning or not.

  • @JetSetDiva

    @JetSetDiva

    Жыл бұрын

    It seems that a "talk on defect only" method would mask a detector error. If the detector is talking, even saying "no defects", then at least you know it's up and running.

  • @mwjones71

    @mwjones71

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JetSetDiva In BNSF's case, the "talk on defect only" does announce "Detector Working" when a hi-rail truck goes over it, presumably to let the track inspector or work crew know the detector detected them, but again, it doesn't say if each of the various elements are working. It's been a few years, but I think the move was more to cut down on the radio traffic or have the detector "walk" over the dispatcher/crews than anything.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment MW. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    NS on the Fort Wayne line has message given to the engineer when their is a critical alarm, not a warning. Trending warning message are sent to dispatch. Also on our detector there has to be a minimum of 5 axles cross before it will give any message, that is to prevent MOW equipment from setting it off. However it still reads MOW bearing temps, if there was a hot bearing on an MOW equipment then it would announce that.

  • @mjm7187
    @mjm7187 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting hearing your speculations on the dynamics of possible train derailments. that's a big share Dave and informative. Thanks Much!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Very glad you enjoyed mjm. We really appreciate your stopping by and taking in the presentation today my friend.

  • @jamesford3648
    @jamesford3648 Жыл бұрын

    Another GREAT video. Out of all of the News outlets that have been covering this Story, Dave’s Videos are ALWAYS right on Target. Thank you for all you Do Sir. 1 of the BEST channels on KZread.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much James for the kind words and for taking the time to check out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

  • @BeeLineEast
    @BeeLineEast Жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave. I never saw the inside of a detector before. I see Progress rail services manufactures them. Guy that worked in the rail mill with me for awhile got a job there in the 1990s.I think that company is in Cleveland Ohio.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Michael, glad you enjoyed the show tonight. I've shown the inside of the detector bungalow before, but this is the first time to show what happens inside when a train is passing. Progress Rail bought out EMD, but is now owned by Caterpillar. Always appreciate your paying us a visit and hearing from you my friend.

  • @BeeLineEast

    @BeeLineEast

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 You a quite welcome Dave.

  • @thetrainshop

    @thetrainshop

    Жыл бұрын

    Progress Rail bought out their detector systems from GE/Harmon. NS is a user of Southern Technologies brand EDDs typically.

  • @BeeLineEast

    @BeeLineEast

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thetrainshop Ok thanks for the info.

  • @skywatcherca
    @skywatcherca Жыл бұрын

    Dave, if you are able, keep us updated as to what occurred and what is occurring now - if you are able. Thanks Dave.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes sir I will. NTSB has recovered the truck set that first derailed and it is being sent to a lab for investigation. What we did find out today, new info. A bearing failed, axle skewed and was pressing against the brake beam which acted like the brakes were applied and the wheels were sliding on the rails, so I was right in part of my speculation. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.

  • @fredschroyer584
    @fredschroyer584 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the East palestine explainer, Dave! Very helpful to hear your veteran take on it. Always enjoy your videos. You're a born teacher! (Btw I'll say hi to Tim for you!)

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Fred. NTSB has recovered the truck set that first derailed and it is being sent to a lab for investigation. What we did find out today, new info. A bearing failed, axle skewed and was pressing against the brake beam which acted like the brakes were applied and the wheels were sliding on the rails, so I was right in part of my speculation. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.

  • @jackpeterson6540
    @jackpeterson6540 Жыл бұрын

    As an Engineer on the Soo Line I actually saw a roller bearing fail. We had just passed through Bowlus, MN and I had watched the train go around a curve on my side. I had just stopped watching and returned to looking ahead. I always had a 5 X 9 Mirror attached to a spring clamp that I attached to the outer storm window allowing me to see back towards the train. Through the mirror I saw flames shooting out from the train and immediately looked back through the window. Evidently the inner bearing seal had failed. The flames were like a round blow torch about three feet in diameter and horizontally twenty feet out from the train. The failed roller bearing was on a loaded 100 ton capacity grain hopper about a dozen cars from the engine. I made a ten pound reduction and stopped. Brakeman went back and exclaimed that the wheel was burning. I walked back and it was the bearing lube on the wheel that was burning. We backed up a couple of miles and set the car out at Bowlus. Just ahead of us was the bridge over the Mississippi River at the Blanchard Dam, another couple miles was the overpass for US 10. If I had not had my own mirror attached I would never have seen the bearing fail. The bearing shell looked like it was seized and turning in the shell holder.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Jack for taking the time to share your neat story with us. That's got to be wild going down track and fire shooting out from one of the cars! Really appreciate your checking out the video. May you have a really good day my friend.

  • @brandoncarstensen1637
    @brandoncarstensen1637 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting speculation on one the most talked about derailments of the decade.. At the end of the video I was laughing so hard at the defect detector! Especially when turning a space heater on fixed the issue.. That's one those gremlin situations! Interesting to see those situations don't just effect the model train world..

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment Brandon. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @kfisher5050
    @kfisher5050 Жыл бұрын

    Great video - I learn something new each time you put out a new video. Regarding the detectors: how far apart are they usually placed? Does a track with a lot of curves usually require more detectors than an alignment that is predominantly tangent? Thanks for your response.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the nice comment. We have 17 miles of track and 1 detector. NS typically puts theirs 20 or so miles apart, some other RR put them closer or further, it's all up to the engineering department of each RR where they decide to put them. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.

  • @jefftoft5568
    @jefftoft5568 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent job Dave of giving some scenarios of what might have happened. Thanks for your knowledge, much appreciated. Keep those hot box detectors warm, Lol!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Jeff for the really nice comment. If you haven't read it, the NTSB preliminary report on what happened is on my channel home page, click on the Community tab to find it, it is the second post down. Always a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend.

  • @wwilliam50
    @wwilliam50 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice Job Dave. Thank you for your work

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to watch the presentation and write in my friend.

  • @robertf3479
    @robertf3479 Жыл бұрын

    Dave, thank you very much for your explanation of how the bearing and wheel sensors work. I also appreciate your estimates of what happened at East Palestine and POSSIBLE causes keeping it simple for even an old sailor to understand. The computer running your detector shares something in common with a lot of other computers ... it's sensitive to temperatures it has to operate in. Does it display similar problems on very hot summer days with no A/C? I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for paying us a visit Robert. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment my friend.

  • @hinspect
    @hinspect Жыл бұрын

    😉Thanks for the Video, I appreciate all of them. One thing that bugs me about the tanker derailment is that it has been common practice to put two or three inert unhazardous train cars between every two tanker cars carrying hazardous materials in case of derailment. In the overhead cluster camera shots of those tankers it didn't appear that there were ANY buffer cars!? That obviously wasn't a very good idea was it?🤔

  • @FadkinsDiet

    @FadkinsDiet

    Жыл бұрын

    There were flour and other ag products interspersed.

  • @hinspect

    @hinspect

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FadkinsDiet I didn't see any in that cluster of tankers and disagree but am certainly not going to discuss it anymore...

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for paying us a visit hinspect, glad you enjoyed. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment my friend.

  • @Transient901
    @Transient901 Жыл бұрын

    Good video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome litlepig69. Thank you for taking the time to watch the presentation and write in my friend.

  • @danielmartin7838
    @danielmartin7838 Жыл бұрын

    I've liked trains ever since I first heard the story of John Henry back in the early 80's when I was very small. Thanks for your work and the information, it helps us laymen form a better understanding of something that's always near us but rarely understood.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for paying us a visit Daniel. We really appreciate your watching the presentation. What's not to like about trains!

  • @davidimhoff2118
    @davidimhoff2118 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate everything the engineers and other vital workers such as yourself go out and do such an amazing job. I know safety is always a number 1 priority. It is a shame the accident happened and I wish there was more that could of been done but we have car accidents and plane accidents out there too. Some are human error and some are just machinery related. The same people that complain about accidents happening in their hometown are probably the same individuals that run through a railroad crossing when the signals are activated. Thanks for the info and the great video!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment David. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend. You're one of the few comments that have come in that actually are based on good common sense.

  • @davidimhoff2118

    @davidimhoff2118

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate the comment. It’s sad that there are so many individuals that use the comment section as a means to challenge the person making the video. Everything has to be “no that’s not true, no your wrong, actually that’s a called a “blah blah””. People can’t just enjoy a video. It always has to come with s negative comment or a comment that’s suppose to be positive but turns out to be slightly negative lol. Ya can’t win lol. Just remember that the people that appreciate your videos will keep watching them and the negative Nancy’s can go with mama and throw themselves off a train. Lol

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidimhoff2118 👍😊❤️

  • @Mike44460
    @Mike44460 Жыл бұрын

    There are five rail crossings in Salem. The video is taken after the fifth one going westbound. There are 12 more crossings before East Palestine, and some are state highways. Hell, two are main streets in Columbiana, and no one saw this rolling fireworks display. There are many open country places where the train could be seen from highways. It was dark, with no leaves on the trees. Puzzling, to say the least. Seventeen crossings and no eyeballs on the train.

  • @SteamCrane

    @SteamCrane

    Жыл бұрын

    32N is an eastbound.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    You are right Mike, that certainly is puzzling being it was almost 8;30 in the evening, you might understand if it was 2 am no one seeing it, but surely it was seen by several at that time of evening. Very much appreciate your visiting with us and taking the time to share your info my friend.

  • @yellowlab5624
    @yellowlab5624 Жыл бұрын

    Ohio born and raised, still here, you read about this stuff but never think about it happening near you!!! Hoping for the best 🤞🤞🇺🇸

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes we are all hoping for the best, what a tragedy and so sad it had to happen for all concerned. Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

  • @dustbowlhammer7119
    @dustbowlhammer7119 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for showing us how this stuff works, I have to say you make a lot more sense then the media!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed the presentation. We really appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.

  • @akshonclip
    @akshonclip Жыл бұрын

    Our Transportation Secretary is a defect.

  • @lmtrains

    @lmtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    its a shortline coal railroad

  • @MikeBrown-ii3pt

    @MikeBrown-ii3pt

    Жыл бұрын

    You beat me to it!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    We do thank you very much for taking the time to watch the video tonight my friend. Not gonna touch that defect comment but it did make me grin.... :-)

  • @jason27swg

    @jason27swg

    Жыл бұрын

    As is his boss

  • @Rob_Moilanen

    @Rob_Moilanen

    Жыл бұрын

    Better than the last 🤡 President!

  • @russelltrupia4479
    @russelltrupia4479 Жыл бұрын

    This was a awesome video Dave, you explanation on both the derailment and the detector👍👍

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Russell for the very kind words. So glad to hear you had a good time with us tonight. We always appreciate hearing from you my friend.

  • @flexvision2000
    @flexvision2000 Жыл бұрын

    Great video on railway safety since after the East Palestine train derailment. Please post more videos like this.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, very glad you enjoyed it flexvision. We certainly do appreciate your stopping by and watching the show today my friend.

  • @georgen.8027
    @georgen.8027 Жыл бұрын

    A better heater might be one of those mineral oil-filled little radiators that have a thermostat and no fan to get clogged or burn out.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    it probably would be George, but heater in detector cabinet was broke so the space heater was only temporary until HVAC guy can get there and fix it. Thank you very much for watching and writing in my friend.

  • @nolifewoodzy
    @nolifewoodzy Жыл бұрын

    I live in Boardman, Ohio. Not far from East Palestine. They say the air and water are both safe but even this far away, there have been signs of nasty rain here. And there has been a nasty smell to the air at night. We are all doomed i bet.

  • @canlib

    @canlib

    Жыл бұрын

    What sign of acid rain?

  • @tonyburzio4107

    @tonyburzio4107

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing science can detect.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    What happened at E. Palestine was a tragedy. We feel so sorry for all involved, the residents and the RR. We will await for the official NTSB report. They will investigate every single detail of all the events that happened. This is a very high profile case with all the lawsuits filed and environmental concerns. A lot of money will be riding on their findings. So very sad it happened. In the past a lot of RR safety rules have been written in blood sadly. Hopefully this tragic incidence will bring into play a new, better set of safety regulations for the rail industry. We certainly do appreciate your watching the video and for writing in my friend.

  • @31Elie
    @31Elie Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave, KZread directed me to one of your videos. Watched and enjoyed. Now I am hooked and subscribed :) Thoroughly enjoy your delivery style and what you talk about. I also find the surroundings you operate in, in your videos, very peaceful. You got a follower in South London, UK.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the nice comment Julian, glad you enjoyed and happy to have you with us. Thank You for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

  • @christopherleenknecht920
    @christopherleenknecht920 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video, thanks Dave 👍👍🚂

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so very much Christopher for the nice comment. Always appreciate your visiting with us and hearing from you my friend.

  • @Baystateboy125
    @Baystateboy125 Жыл бұрын

    Dave, you sound like a genuine person who cares about what he does and says. Therefore, I think you would want to know that the “S” in Illinois is not pronounced. It’s a French name because it was originally discovered by a French explorer.

  • @emorris272

    @emorris272

    Жыл бұрын

    How petty of you to correct his pronunciation!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you I knew that, I've gotten busted before for saying the s on the end, it's okay your writing in tho. Want to thank you very much for watching the presentation my friend.

  • @Baystateboy125

    @Baystateboy125

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 Dave you’re a smart guy and we can’t have you mispronounce words and give people the wrong impression. Keep up the good work!

  • @pauliedweasel
    @pauliedweasel Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff Dave, I was a telecom tech for the Santa Fe, Union Pacific and BNSF Railway in Los Angeles for 25 1/2 before retiring in 2021 and one of my duties was to main the voice and data radios for our Santa Fe Springs hot box detector which was about eight miles from Hobart Yard in Los Angeles. It was an interesting site because about eight years ago they went from having double track to triple track at that location and the data radio was only capable of handling inputs from two tracks. I had to rescript the radio get it to handle three track inputs and make some configuration changes the Progress Rail Services computer and install a multiplexer box to allow the system to handle three track inputs. It was really cool to see and hear it work once all the parameters were properly tweaked.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for stopping by Paul. We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the really awesome comment my friend.

  • @pauliedweasel

    @pauliedweasel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 The detector at Santa Fe Springs California is the one I used to maintain the vhf hi band voice radio and the vhf low band data radio in and sometimes it would hiccup and give squirrels reports to passing trains.

  • @jayyoutube8790
    @jayyoutube8790 Жыл бұрын

    My father retired from Conrail back in 1998. Never seen those engines.. Good video

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    These locos were never at Conrail all tho many folks have written in thinking they might have been Jay. Thank you very much for watching and writing in my friend.

  • @mattkinnard6899
    @mattkinnard6899 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave! So much of the news reporting has been incorrect, from my limited knowledge of railroading. East Palestine is a short drive from home, but I am glad I am upwind and out of the affected area. Great demonstration on defect detectors!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment Matt. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @usernotfound-ue7ld
    @usernotfound-ue7ld Жыл бұрын

    Dave we love ya brother always love the videos and thanks for what you do keep up the great content

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @CapStar362
    @CapStar362 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the well presented info - the news should hire you to explain these things to them or even let you speak on their behalf, they have been gaffing this from day 1. Williamson WV and Flowery Branch GA - Railfan here.

  • @CapStar362

    @CapStar362

    Жыл бұрын

    i swear i subscribed to you previously from some older videos you have, appears it got wiped out. not sure why

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the nice comment. They need me too much here to consider a career change....LOL Very much appreciate your visiting with us and checking out the show my friend.

  • @davidlytle7422
    @davidlytle7422 Жыл бұрын

    Great job in detail of what may have happened. Ezekiel is a good guy!!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment David. We really appreciate your taking the time to pay us a visit and write in my friend.

  • @thetoycannon9813
    @thetoycannon9813 Жыл бұрын

    Dave, your the man. Videos are great, and very well done. You speak with such a kindness and passion that is very hard to come by these days. Would love to run into you and introduce myself in person while out catching some trains. Stay safe and warm. God Bless

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very kind words toycannon. We really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

  • @mustralineabsorbine5082
    @mustralineabsorbine5082 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave for the insight. I have read many of the posts by professionals in the RR industry and their collective wisdom suggests a failure in on of the wheels. Personally, I thought it might have been a track failure. I see how much time and energy you put into maintaining your track in good condition, and wondered if poor track maintenance might have been the problem. Guess I was wrong, but you provided the information I learned about RRing to make a guess about what happened. Thanks :)

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment Mustraline. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @maryjohansson3627
    @maryjohansson3627 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the information. Love those trains!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your quite welcome Mary. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the presentation my friend.

  • @tomcat1319
    @tomcat1319 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Your information is 5x what comes out of the media. It's unfortunate that Americans suffer while the News media covers it up because they have stake in the rail roads. Keep us up to date with the news. Luckily for us rhere are experts like you breaking things down into terms we can understand! My heart goes out for the people that will suffer in Ohio and every state that has a similar derailment!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment tomcat. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

  • @louGriggs1944
    @louGriggs1944 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the insights and information.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    You are certainly welcome Lou. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

  • @trainwild
    @trainwild Жыл бұрын

    Very nice video, thank you for all of your knowledge and good information. Very well put together. My heart goes out to everyone that has been affected by this tragedy, as well as all of animals and wildlife. Thoughts and prayers to all of those wonderful people! ❤🙏

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the very nice comment trainwild. Glad you enjoyed the show. Totally agree with you on the tragedy, it's very sad it happened. Very much appreciate your paying us a visit tonight and watching my friend.

  • @trainwild

    @trainwild

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ccrx6700 Your most welcome!

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trainwild 😊👍

  • @garymessina1609
    @garymessina1609 Жыл бұрын

    Great opinion Dave on NS derailment every piece of electronic equipment is prone to failures great video thanks Dave

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Gary for the kind words. We certainly do appreciate your paying us a visit tonight and for writing in my friend. Again, my opinion is only what could have happened, not necessarily what did happen at E. Palestine.

  • @revharrycwigmoreiii5787
    @revharrycwigmoreiii5787 Жыл бұрын

    Very professional my Friend, thanks for explaining the system.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for paying us a visit . We really appreciate your watching the presentation and for the nice comment my friend.

  • @alexmaccoll5658
    @alexmaccoll5658 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the explanations.

  • @ccrx6700

    @ccrx6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Your quite welcome Alex, thank you for visiting with us to watch the presentation my friend.