a double integral, 3 ways

a double integral with 3 ways,
original way,
change of order,
use polar coordinate,
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  • @JohnAlejo99
    @JohnAlejo996 жыл бұрын

    BlackPen RedPen *BluePen*

  • @seanfraser3125
    @seanfraser31256 жыл бұрын

    Polar is the method I used immediately. I’m very curious to see a full version of the first method just to know how ridiculous it is by comparison. Not enough to do it myself though.

  • @Bermatematika

    @Bermatematika

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is actually good exercise to practice substitution method. Not that hard. Maybe I will make a video about it :).

  • @Bermatematika

    @Bermatematika

    6 жыл бұрын

    Here you go the video that I promised :): kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpydm8uae5uTl5s.html

  • @brooksgunn5235

    @brooksgunn5235

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bermatematika.com You should! I subbed to you.

  • @falkinable

    @falkinable

    6 жыл бұрын

    I did it using the substitution method

  • @WarpRulez
    @WarpRulez6 жыл бұрын

    The double integral is essentially calculating the volume of the origin-centered half-cylinder, which is capped by the surface x^3+xy^2. It baffles my mind how this volume can be a rational number, given that a circle is involved.

  • @simenjorissen5357

    @simenjorissen5357

    4 жыл бұрын

    If the height of the cylinder is 1/π then the volume will be r², if r is integer, the volume will not only be rational but also an integer and a perfect square

  • @winnablebtw459
    @winnablebtw4596 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the reliable Wolfram Alpha method. It applies to almost every integral you throw at it.

  • @MarkMcDaniel

    @MarkMcDaniel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Weak sauce.

  • @ninjawayxd6211

    @ninjawayxd6211

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which method is that?

  • @2muchnrg268

    @2muchnrg268

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ninjawayxd6211 it’s an online calculator that gives the answer for you lol

  • @hectorbrizuelavega9214

    @hectorbrizuelavega9214

    3 жыл бұрын

    The force is strong on this one

  • @Supercatzs

    @Supercatzs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Believe in math, not Wolframalpha!

  • @retired5548
    @retired55486 жыл бұрын

    the second way is so much clearer, however i cannot help but try the first method as well edit: well it was intimidating to integrate at first, but wasn't so bad in the end

  • @lmao4982
    @lmao49824 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this guy can never stop holding his microphone, it's just a part of his thing now

  • @unknown6000
    @unknown60006 жыл бұрын

    I'm only a high school student so I had no idea about the third method so I just tried the first one right away. What a tedious process that was!

  • @yash1152

    @yash1152

    Жыл бұрын

    lololol.

  • @thaovu-yi5ts

    @thaovu-yi5ts

    2 ай бұрын

    wait high school students learn this:)?

  • @epikherolol8189

    @epikherolol8189

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@thaovu-yi5tsWe don't but it's pretty self explanatory that we gotta do the inside integral first. It's kinda like those 10yr old algebra questions where u use bodmas and do inside out ig But yeah being a highschool student myself I only knew how to do the first method and i got stuck afterwards

  • @Bayerwaldler
    @Bayerwaldler4 жыл бұрын

    Your video reminded me of the time when I was a teaching fellow more than thirty years ago. 14:01 At that point, since we're integrating first w.r.t. r and *then* w.r.t. theta, I wouldn't have depicted semi circles ranging from r=0 to r=3 but rays with angles ranging from theta = -Pi/2 to Pi/2. I would have also shown the other order of integration too which is just as easy to do. Then of course the semi circles would have come into play! Great video nonetheless. ... I wish I could have communicated as well as you!

  • @tungboychak2295
    @tungboychak22955 жыл бұрын

    YOU REALLY KNOW YOUR THING

  • @nadia-sy8cn
    @nadia-sy8cn Жыл бұрын

    that was so coooolll thank you for this amazing video

  • @colt4667
    @colt46676 жыл бұрын

    I just LOVE it when you solve a problem two or three different ways and you get the same answer each time! Ain't mathematics grand?

  • @ralfbodemann1542
    @ralfbodemann15426 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the Toblerone method.

  • @randomname9291
    @randomname92912 ай бұрын

    (2x/3)(sqrt(9-x^2)^3) is actually relatively simple to integrate, as it fits the formula of the integral of f’(x)*f^n(x) Where f(x)=9-x^2 And n=1.5 Therefore all it is is (1/3)*(((9-x^2)^2.5)/2.5) Idk how to integrate the other part though as my integration knowledge is very limited

  • @anegativecoconut4940
    @anegativecoconut49406 жыл бұрын

    That Smile when you realize that you did it again.

  • @fletcherk3296
    @fletcherk3296 Жыл бұрын

    Day before my calculus exam and i think you may have just saved me from losing a good amount of marks lol!! Thank you! Great explanation

  • @CubeMontster17
    @CubeMontster176 жыл бұрын

    Pls do more polar coordinates integration videos! They're so cool

  • @danmart1879
    @danmart18795 жыл бұрын

    Calc genius! Wow!

  • @eugeneimbangyorteza
    @eugeneimbangyorteza3 жыл бұрын

    The Polar method is like one of the earliest things taught in multivariable calculus

  • @gergananikolovagery5058
    @gergananikolovagery50585 жыл бұрын

    Very nice! I just learned about the polar coordinates method at uni and I like your explanation best. Seems much easier! haha I love it

  • @ArifSolvesIt

    @ArifSolvesIt

    Жыл бұрын

    using polar coordinates is unfortunately not always the best way. Hence, if you use the polar coordinates to calculate the area of an ellipse, the integral you need to solve turns out to be more difficult to handle than the one you solve using Cartesian coordinates; you can see kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2WqtK5mZciYnLQ.html

  • @lovejotsingh7018
    @lovejotsingh70184 жыл бұрын

    Thanx bro... u taught us very well

  • @Quarbenah_Fendi
    @Quarbenah_Fendi Жыл бұрын

    the double integral is essentially calculating the volume of the origin-centered half-cylinder, which is capped by the surface x^3+xy^2. It baffles my mind how this volume can be a rational number, given that a circle is involved.

  • @xxshogunflames
    @xxshogunflames3 жыл бұрын

    The third way blew my mind! Thank you!

  • @ArifSolvesIt

    @ArifSolvesIt

    Жыл бұрын

    using polar coordinates is unfortunately not always the best way. Hence, if you use the polar coordinates to calculate the area of an ellipse, the integral you need to solve turns out to be more difficult to handle than the one you solve using Cartesian coordinates; you can see kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2WqtK5mZciYnLQ.html

  • @bensnodgrass6548
    @bensnodgrass65486 жыл бұрын

    Surely to integrate with respect to y where there are x's you have to assume that the two functions are independent? Like if you wrote x as a function of y (not treating it as constant) it would look different and you would get a different answer. But then later he connects them by saying x^2 + y^2 = 9...

  • @vainqueurndangi6848
    @vainqueurndangi68485 жыл бұрын

    amazing video bro!

  • @duncanw9901
    @duncanw99016 жыл бұрын

    Double integral, Triple coulours

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    i pause this video at 0:50 and i want to solve this integral by original way by myself , it take along time and very complex, then when i solved it i continous see this video, that amazing way to solve it, 2 way is so good.

  • @thevirus7020
    @thevirus70202 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @user-md2rv6cf4j
    @user-md2rv6cf4j6 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you explain very well and I take advantage of you.

  • @user-tq9gd1tm3h
    @user-tq9gd1tm3h6 жыл бұрын

    Gold as usual

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jordan Rogers thank you!

  • @Tomcat721
    @Tomcat7215 жыл бұрын

    I like this!! Thank You

  • @Patapom3
    @Patapom36 жыл бұрын

    Amazing!

  • @jarikosonen4079
    @jarikosonen40794 жыл бұрын

    How can be sure dy integrate from -3 to +3, not from +3 to -3? And theta from -pi/2 to pi/2 instead of pi/2 to -pi/2... Maybe always integration from smaller coordinate to larger cooridate? It looks quite certain though that final integration result is positive... If dx was from 3 to 0, would you use theta pi/2 to -pi/2 or r from 3 to 0? This case does it matter which one of the variables would integrate in the negative direction?

  • @andi_tafel
    @andi_tafel6 жыл бұрын

    Toblerone = The Best

  • @filip-kochan

    @filip-kochan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Andi Tafel what is toblerone please?

  • @TrueGamerWoo

    @TrueGamerWoo

    5 жыл бұрын

    Filip Kochan the best method

  • @guilhermepimenta_prodabel
    @guilhermepimenta_prodabel8 ай бұрын

    In the second method you should use absolute value.

  • @innocentmhlanga9117
    @innocentmhlanga91175 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much...

  • @arifahimran5773
    @arifahimran57733 жыл бұрын

    from null to awesome.... i love second and thrid method....tq

  • @mimiphan9582
    @mimiphan95822 жыл бұрын

    He is the best.

  • @dellaameliaa27
    @dellaameliaa275 жыл бұрын

    do you have playlist for this? double integral and triple integral

  • @freeze2win697
    @freeze2win697Ай бұрын

    I am 2 years old and i already learn calculus🤓 you make it look easier😇

  • @paulbooer7171
    @paulbooer71716 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @marianesaliba2594
    @marianesaliba25942 жыл бұрын

    Thank youu❤❤

  • @yash1152
    @yash1152 Жыл бұрын

    4:08 > _"represents bottom part of circle"_ holly molly, i entirely forgot that and was thinking about root of inverted parabola. and by the way, never noticed this connection before too: root of a parabola gives a semi-circle. awesome.

  • @josammarenye4021
    @josammarenye4021 Жыл бұрын

    I was so confused where the r came from when we switch dydx to polar form😭 thanks for giving me so much peace😄❤️❤️

  • @lostwizard
    @lostwizard6 жыл бұрын

    I did it the first way and messed up the numerical calculations the first time through. It looks really scary after substituting in the Y values. However, a little fiddling around and using u = 9 - x^2 gives a relatively nice second integration. There is an x^2 that doesn't immediately disappear from the substitution but it's easy enough to represent x^2 in the u world. Sure, it's not as nice as the other two methods since the square roots don't disappear. However, with the converted integration limits, you end up substituting a 9 into the square roots so the actual calculation is straight forward enough.

  • @lostwizard

    @lostwizard

    6 жыл бұрын

    Okay. So I made a video with the working out for the first way: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paqLzc9xo5WncrQ.html

  • @andualemfetene9237
    @andualemfetene92375 жыл бұрын

    oh nice! polar coordinate is best for me

  • @lou.104
    @lou.1044 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video on sketching the integration domain for a double integral?

  • @vai_-cn9br
    @vai_-cn9br2 жыл бұрын

    The method you applied at the beginning...I call it 'clumsy integral' whenever I encounter it lol

  • @sayanpakira8
    @sayanpakira85 жыл бұрын

    Great

  • @omerangi4695
    @omerangi46956 жыл бұрын

    That coffee cup tho

  • @stydras3380
    @stydras33806 жыл бұрын

    the first one seems unnecessarily cruel xD anyhow... fun video!! :)

  • @GhostyOcean
    @GhostyOcean4 жыл бұрын

    *GREEN'S THEOREM INTENSIFIES*

  • @acehabib5008
    @acehabib50086 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a triple integral please? Triangle integration? THANKS !

  • @andreasvalen8802
    @andreasvalen88025 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @appybane8481
    @appybane8481 Жыл бұрын

    To continue in first way, use u=9-x^2, that's also easy!

  • @DanNguyen-oc3xr
    @DanNguyen-oc3xr4 жыл бұрын

    Why am I watching math at 1 am? I guess I can claim this as studying

  • @JaskoonerSingh
    @JaskoonerSingh4 жыл бұрын

    great video which helped me a lot. I think you lost a bit of steam near the end!

  • @Tarheb
    @Tarheb Жыл бұрын

    x((9-x^2)^3/2)/3 disappears because one is positive and one negative

  • @anicetoaniceto1020
    @anicetoaniceto10205 жыл бұрын

    I did the integral and it still took me a long time I had to do two integrals.

  • @kuantumalex7937
    @kuantumalex79376 жыл бұрын

    Polar coard is the best

  • @Kurtlane
    @Kurtlane6 жыл бұрын

    I tried the same arrangement, but with function x^2+y^2 (instead of x^3+xy^2). Following method 3 (polar), I got (81 / 4) * pi. But if this is half a circle, then its area should be pi * r^2 / 2, and if r = 3, it should be (9 / 2) * pi. What did I do wrong, or maybe the whole thing is not really the area of half a circle? Please explain. Thanks.

  • @cicciobombo7496

    @cicciobombo7496

    6 жыл бұрын

    x^2+y^2 in 3d is not a plain circle, it is a parabola rotated on itself in the y axis, so what you calcultae with this double integral is the volume under this shape, very different from the area of a circle :D

  • @karljoyeux5148
    @karljoyeux51484 жыл бұрын

    Da secund one is very cool

  • @dankylesiao4755
    @dankylesiao47553 жыл бұрын

    the toblerone in the last tho

  • @ev4_gaming
    @ev4_gaming5 жыл бұрын

    just a question, can u reverse the order of the integtation signs? would that give the same answer?

  • @achyuthramachandran2189

    @achyuthramachandran2189

    5 жыл бұрын

    There's a whole method of evaluating double integrals by changing the order of integration. However, you have to change the bounds between which they are evaluated as well. You can't simply switch dy and dx and the integral bounds in the front. Hope that helps!

  • @fireemblem2770
    @fireemblem27704 жыл бұрын

    At 1:05, why would you ADD the exponent, and then divide the exponent by 3? I've never seen this before.

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding97924 жыл бұрын

    With the first method it was so complicated that I ended up with the wrong answer

  • @Timorftw
    @Timorftw6 жыл бұрын

    Polar way made it so easy.

  • @mathmathician8250
    @mathmathician82505 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a triple integrals?

  • @aaronargottelopez3488
    @aaronargottelopez34884 жыл бұрын

    danke

  • @mcwulf25
    @mcwulf254 жыл бұрын

    Polar is easy. Did it in my head!

  • @jonshonjohn4756
    @jonshonjohn47566 жыл бұрын

    the first way of doing it is not THAT hard, you can make the change of variable 9-x^2=t and it becomes quite easy from there

  • @v0igr409
    @v0igr4092 жыл бұрын

    nobody is talking about the GIANT TOBLERON CHOCOLATE BAR AT THE END ??

  • @rkumaresh
    @rkumaresh5 жыл бұрын

    Polar method is suitable for this problem

  • @JohnnyPerson1
    @JohnnyPerson16 жыл бұрын

    YOu are awesome!!!

  • @user-vm6qx2tu3j
    @user-vm6qx2tu3j6 жыл бұрын

    Published on my birthday 😍

  • @victorkkariuki

    @victorkkariuki

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rash Scientist happy belated birthday

  • @kirillous
    @kirillous Жыл бұрын

    Lol I paused it and did trig sub, it works but its hella work 🥴

  • @3manthing
    @3manthing4 жыл бұрын

    polar coordinates are my choice

  • @user-eu5gl3th2t
    @user-eu5gl3th2t6 жыл бұрын

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssss

  • @thomasblackwell9507
    @thomasblackwell95074 жыл бұрын

    Polar!

  • @copperfield42
    @copperfield426 жыл бұрын

    I did it without changing the order of integration or coordenate system... I have to do it 3 times to get the result DX

  • @persekarva6444
    @persekarva64446 жыл бұрын

    Im way too drunk to understand this, but im still watching lol

  • @sushruttadwalkar7701
    @sushruttadwalkar77014 жыл бұрын

    trig sub looks intimidating but actually is pretty simple if you go forward with it, obviously the other methods can be considered better though😅

  • @ArifSolvesIt

    @ArifSolvesIt

    Жыл бұрын

    using polar coordinates is unfortunately not always the best way. Hence, if you use the polar coordinates to calculate the area of an ellipse, the integral you need to solve turns out to be more difficult to handle than the one you solve using Cartesian coordinates; you can see kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2WqtK5mZciYnLQ.html

  • @pappaflammyboi5799
    @pappaflammyboi57995 жыл бұрын

    I know this is a dumb question, but I gotta ask it. But before I do, I understand how you did the double integral all 3 ways. Not too bad. Now here's my question: Once you find out it's a circle of radius 3 from theta = -pi/2 to pi/2, and you're interested in finding the area, which is what this integral is doing, why not just apply the function A = 1/2*pi*r^2 where r = 3. Thing is, it's not the same answer... what went wrong???

  • @lukandrate9866

    @lukandrate9866

    Жыл бұрын

    The integral computes the volume between the given region and the given f(x,y), not the area of the region

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding97925 жыл бұрын

    It all ads up!

  • @sdbstar8515
    @sdbstar85154 жыл бұрын

    Why couldn't i see it before 😭😭😭😭

  • @wkingston1248
    @wkingston12486 жыл бұрын

    Back in my day we didn't have these new fangled 'polar coordinates' we did some good old fashion integration. It builds character unlike the youth with their fancy tricks.

  • @yash1152
    @yash1152 Жыл бұрын

    18:45 what is TOBLERONE?? :D

  • @mariahannaherickasingson9827
    @mariahannaherickasingson982711 ай бұрын

    im still confused why is it the theta is -pi/2 instead of 3pi/2 huhuhu

  • @lornacy
    @lornacy11 күн бұрын

  • @dmxx44
    @dmxx445 жыл бұрын

    9:46 :D

  • @margintoosmall925
    @margintoosmall9256 жыл бұрын

    I spent way too much time trying to solve it the first way :(

  • @chesteezy5197
    @chesteezy51976 жыл бұрын

    BUT THE CHEN LU!

  • @aninditasarkar688
    @aninditasarkar6885 жыл бұрын

    Why in polar coordinate dxdy is equal to rdr(theta)

  • @KingRustee

    @KingRustee

    5 жыл бұрын

    Essentially dxdy or dydx is a small change in x multiplied by a small change in y to give a small rectangular change in area. To create this same rectangle in polar coordinates, you take a small change in the radius (dr) and multiply it with a small change in the arc (rdθ) to give rdrdθ.

  • @emmanuelontiveros8446
    @emmanuelontiveros84466 жыл бұрын

    Polar is the easier method

  • @OonHan
    @OonHan6 жыл бұрын

    Hi!

  • @Kurtlane
    @Kurtlane6 жыл бұрын

    What is this Jacobian? Can anyone explain?

  • @botondosvath2331

    @botondosvath2331

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can see it in the following video from Dr. Peyam: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f32sttiEiKqXmrw.htmlm55s

  • @alanhiguera3484

    @alanhiguera3484

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kurtlane it is a matrix of the partial derivatives of the change of coordinates. in this case, x=rcos(theta) and y=rsin(theta) are the change of coordinates, you takes the partial derivatives of both with respect to r and theta, and you take the determinant of the matrix which gives r. its essentially the multidimensional analogue to dealing with the differential du in u-substitution in the single variable case.

  • @escila91
    @escila915 жыл бұрын

    Are you a wizard?

  • @pharundps9434
    @pharundps94343 жыл бұрын

    I want to exercise Limited

  • @j0j083
    @j0j0836 жыл бұрын

    I did it using the first way but got 354/5 or 70.8

  • @tungboychak2295
    @tungboychak22955 жыл бұрын

    EVERY TIME I INTERACT WITH YOUR VIDEO SIR, I GET UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT PARTY OF THE COURSE

  • @NecmettinMarmara-Fizikci
    @NecmettinMarmara-Fizikci Жыл бұрын

    Polar coordinate kzread.info/dash/bejne/dHl2pJWBgrPSYag.html