Thanks Rob for indicating the relative importance of EVERY matter related in Scripture; an incidental thing need not be very important "in itself", yet may well contribute to the reliability of a record by its likelihood and inclusion.

I've enjoyed every one of Dr. Carter's videos. That lighthouse must be one of the prettiest ones ever! (I was born here in North Wildwood, NJ 77 years ago, but grew up in Oregon.) :)

I get happy to see another video in this series, thank you!

@trentitybrehm5105

18 күн бұрын

The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit speak to each other and about each other like they are seperate people. There are passages where God speaks in the first person in the Old Testament, and Jesus will quote these in the first person about himself. He will claim things that are titles of God alone about himself and tells us he can not only hear our prayers but has the ability to answer them too. Psalm 95:7 - for he is our God and we are the people of his pasture, the flock under his care. Today, if only you would hear his voice, Isaiah 43:13 - Yes, and from ancient days I am he. No one can deliver out of my hand. When I act, who can reverse it?” Deuteronomy 32:29 - “See now that I myself am he! There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand. Two of these are God speaking in the first person, one about God. John 10:27-30 Jesus speaking, - 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” It continues to 33 with the Jewish audience picking up stones to kill Jesus, he asks for what good works do you stone me, and they say not for good works, but you being a man make yourself out to be God. John 14:13-14 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. John 5:19-23 Jesus said that he does everything exactly as he see the Father does and does everything the Father does and that Jesus will be judge and the Father will judge no one. John 8, Jesus says that he saw Abraham and Abraham didn't try to kill him like the Jews were and Abraham was glad to see him. John 8:58, Jesus said that before Abraham was, I AM, which is what God told Moses his name was. John 1:1,14 Jesus is the Word who was there in the beginning with God, and who was God, who took on flesh and dwelt among us. A human being is what I am. trenititybrehm is who I am. God is what the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are. One God, who is three people. The only reason the Trinity exists is because scripture teaches that the Father is God, Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. Jesus said, "Destroy this temple (meaning his body) and in three days, I will raise it up!" He did not say his Father would raise him, although the Father and the Holy Spirit are each explicitly given credit for raising Jesus. Isaiah 43:11, God said there is no savior besides him. Titus 3:6 Jesus is called our Saviour. John 6:46, Jesus says no one has seen the Father, yet Abraham spoke face to face with God in Genesis 18:19, Moses spoke face to face with God in Exodus 33:11 and Moses and the elders of Israel went up Mount Sinai and saw the God of Israel seated on a throne and ate with him. Jacob wrestled with God in Genesis 32:22-32. Jesus is the one who ascends and descends out of heaven and the appearances of God throughout the Old Testament is Jesus. This is why he said before Abraham was, I am in John 8:58 Gensis 19:24 "Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah-from the LORD out of the heavens." When LORD is all caps it's using God's holy name in Hebrew, and Abraham was just pleading face to face with God to not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Gen 19:24 says Yahweh rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah from Yahweh out of heaven. Jesus is the Yahweh who spoke to Abraham face to face and called sulfur and brimstone out of heaven from Yahweh the Father. Jesus is God with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jesus IS the Messiah, friend. The Trinity is what scripture taught from the beginning because it is from the scripture that the idea of the tri-unity between the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit as being God teaches. Not something come up with later. Mark 1:1-4, the very first verses of the very first chapter of what is cited as the very first Gospel calls Jesus God. It refrences Isaiah 40:3 and Malachi 3:1 where Yahweh says he will send his messanger who will be like a voice in the wilderness to make the way before he himself comes to his temple. Mark says John is that voice in the wilderness, making the way for Jesus. John 1:23 , Matthew 3:3, and Luke 3:4 also say the exact same things. So all four Gospels call Jesus Yahweh in the first few chapters in the exact same way quoting the exact same Old Testamentt scriptures to do so. In Mark 10:18, Jesus said,"Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God." Meaning: "You call me good when only God is good, do you understand what you are calling me?" To further the point, Christ then lists the 6 commandments that relate to how people deal with each other and asks the man if he's followed those. The man says yes. Then, instead of listing the 4 commandments on how to relate to God and asking if he's followed those, Jesus tells the man, "Follow me," because following and worshiping Christ is following and worshiping God. In Mark Jesus heals the paralytic man, but first, he tells him your sins are forgiven. The Pharisees around thought in their hearts this was blasphemy, because only God can forgive sins. Jesus instantly know what they were thinking and called them out on it, and said to prove to you I can forgive sins, get up and walk and the paralytic could walk. Jesus proved he is God for only God can forgive sins, only God knows the hearts of men (Jerimiah 11:20 and 17:10), and only God can heal people. Jesus did all three in Mark's Gospel, which is often considered the oldest of the four. Read Hebrews 1:8-12. Old Testament scriptures are quoted that are talking about God creating the universe, and Hebrews 1:8-12 quotes them and attributes the Father calling Jesus God, the Lord who created the everything, who is eternal. Hebrews 1:10-12 Is directly quoting Psalm 102:25-27, where the Psalm is talkling about Yahweh (God) and Hebrews is talking about Jesus, the Son. Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. 2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Isaiah 48:16 “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.” (God is speaking, saying he was there from the beginning, and that the Lord God and His Spirit sent him. The Trinity in the Old Testament.) Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. These next passages are about the Holy Spirit being a seperate person from the Father and the Son, and also being God. Matthew 3:16-17 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John 15:26-27 But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. 27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning. John 16:13-15 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 A ll thing s th at th e Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you. 2 Samuel 23:2-3 (David calling the Spirit God) “The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, And His word was on my tongue. 3 The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me: ‘He who rules over men must be just, Ruling in the fear of God. Acts 5:3-4 (Peter calling the Spirit God) But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”

The history and genealogy of the Idumeans is very important. Especially now.

This is all interesting stuff!!!

I never thought about the leader lists continuing on during the Davidic dynasty. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for putting in the time to both think these things through and record them for us!

Fantastic explaination - I have wondered about this geneology for years. Thanks!

Fascinating history. Interesting how you most likely unraveled the connection between Seir and his actual name. (I edited his name out from my original post so my comment wouldn't be a "spoiler" for another viewer.)

So sorry I didn’t know you were coming to the great state of South Jersey!

Beautiful lighthouse!

To understand Edom you need to get a better map than 4:30.

Is it possible that as Canaan was cursed by Noah for being the seed of incest, that some of the confusion in the Hivite names is also attributable to their continuation in this practice?

@LK-ho1dg

17 күн бұрын

Incest between whom? The text clearly tells us why he was cursed...

@PFavata

17 күн бұрын

@@LK-ho1dg The text of Gen 9:22 says that Ham uncovered the "nakedness of his father." It then goes on to say that he told his brothers about it and that they (Shem and Japheth) backed into the tent to cover the nakedness of their father with their faces turned away so that they did not see the "nakedness of their father." Leviticus 18:8 clarifies what the nakedness of the father means "The nakedness of your father’s wife you shall not uncover; it is your father’s nakedness." When applied to the Genesis verse it makes sense that Ham had engaged in incest with his drunken mother, bragged to his brothers about it who in respect for their mother backed into the room to cover her. Ham is named as Canaan's father to understand the reason for the curse on Canaan as he is the offspring of this incest, and it is his lineage from which the Hivites descend and if I'm not mistaken that form of activity continues throughout the descendants of Ham even to Jericho. That is the origin of my question.

@PFavata

16 күн бұрын

@@LK-ho1dg I've posted two replies and both are gone. Don't know why. My apologies.

Looking at the map of Edom in the thumbnail of this video, it looks like the city of Petra is in that territory. Any idea about how this fascinating city might fit in chronologically with the Bible narratives?

This is the first of your videos for me. I know you said you thought on it, but did you consult any Jewish commentaries? How about Josephus? Does he say anything about these two men being the same? I'll go back and watch more. You have a good, laid-back teaching style.

12:33 _"in the Bronze Age"_ Was it Bronze Age or Iron Age in the times of Kings David and Solomon?

@biblicalgenetics8838

19 күн бұрын

Verbal typo, but ambiguous enough that I did not have to edit it out.

I thought Esau fought Seir and God gave the land of Seir to Esau and his men? [+] Don’t fight with them, for I will not give you any of their land, not even an inch of it, because I have given Esau the hill country of Seir as his possession. (Deut 2:5) As such, it was the only battle that Esau/Edom had won. Every other battle they got into resulted in defeat, even the ones not recorded in the Bible. (And Mal 1:4-5 shines a light on that bit of history). But I guess that phrase in Deut 2:5 could also work if Esau was inheriting it from Seir, his father-in-law. Interesting. Thanks.

The OT has yet to be translated. The little- but significant- parts Kamal Salibi has tells different stories. THM in Gen.1:2 refers to the Tihamah regions- Hijaz, Asir and Yemen- in western Arabia, not the ‘deep.’ Start at start. “The Bible Came from Arabia “, Kamal Salibi,1985, plus his 3 other bible study books and blog for facts not fantasies.

Interesting that Jacob married sisters and in the double record his twin seems to get married to two pairs of sisters. Anything Jacob does Esau tries to get a double portion of. The Bible doesn’t mention any children coming to Esau until the second set of wives mentioned in Gen36. Verse 6 says, “all his substance, which he had got in the land of Canaan”. It seems to imply that he wasn’t very fruitful until after Jacob, fresh from receiving his blessing direct from God, proceeds to bless his brother with a much better blessing than Isaac could give. (Gen 33:11 Take, I pray thee, my blessing that is brought to thee; because God hath dealt graciously with me, and because I have enough. And he urged him, and he took it.) If Esau hadn’t taken himself and his family off to Seir after his apparently fruitful time in Canaan he would have been left to potentially control Canaan when Jacob went to Egypt and then Joshua would have encountered a quite different situation. I notice the twins died in the same year.

Nice. an example at times in scripture a related person may be know under a more dominant part of their family, or where they live, or based on the mother?, .. It might be the 70 families that dispersed from Bavel, the Canaanites, .. For example Yisro -Hobeb (b. Reul?_ Cohein Midian may not have been Midianite. Mordecha HaYehudi (His mother was of Judah, his dad a Benjamite) and/or because he was of the exiles of Judah... the Kingdom of Judah included Benjamin, plenty of Levites and sone from each time Jeremiah had brought back about a century after the Assyrina exile of 10 Tribes of Israel (3187-3205 anno-mundi).. the chronology see Pearlman YeC alignment of Torah testimony, science and ancient civ. shared.

King Charles??

Another interesting lineage is that of the house of Nimrod, the first king of the world who was said to have been killed by Esau. If the paternal lineage of Cush is AB, then the C Hamitic lineage in Asia must be the descendants of the house of Nimrod.

@magistradox39

21 күн бұрын

This story only works with the Masorethic text, but not with the Septuagint.

@JungleJargon

21 күн бұрын

@@magistradox39 The name of Nimrod is irrelevant. The C paternal haplogroup in Eurasia is Hamitic and descended from the AB hg of Cush. It can’t possibly be anyone else.

@mattm2767

18 күн бұрын

@@JungleJargonHow do you know that AB is Cush?

@mattm2767

18 күн бұрын

@@JungleJargonwhere did you get the information about Esau killing Nimrod?

@JungleJargon

18 күн бұрын

@@mattm2767 AB is Cush because C is Nimrod.

The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit speak to each other and about each other like they are seperate people. There are passages where God speaks in the first person in the Old Testament, and Jesus will quote these in the first person about himself. He will claim things that are titles of God alone about himself and tells us he can not only hear our prayers but has the ability to answer them too. Psalm 95:7 - for he is our God and we are the people of his pasture, the flock under his care. Today, if only you would hear his voice, Isaiah 43:13 - Yes, and from ancient days I am he. No one can deliver out of my hand. When I act, who can reverse it?” Deuteronomy 32:29 - “See now that I myself am he! There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand. Two of these are God speaking in the first person, one about God. John 10:27-30 Jesus speaking, - 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” It continues to 33 with the Jewish audience picking up stones to kill Jesus, he asks for what good works do you stone me, and they say not for good works, but you being a man make yourself out to be God. John 14:13-14 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. John 5:19-23 Jesus said that he does everything exactly as he see the Father does and does everything the Father does and that Jesus will be judge and the Father will judge no one. John 8, Jesus says that he saw Abraham and Abraham didn't try to kill him like the Jews were and Abraham was glad to see him. John 8:58, Jesus said that before Abraham was, I AM, which is what God told Moses his name was. John 1:1,14 Jesus is the Word who was there in the beginning with God, and who was God, who took on flesh and dwelt among us. A human being is what I am. trenititybrehm is who I am. God is what the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are. One God, who is three people. The only reason the Trinity exists is because scripture teaches that the Father is God, Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. Jesus said, "Destroy this temple (meaning his body) and in three days, I will raise it up!" He did not say his Father would raise him, although the Father and the Holy Spirit are each explicitly given credit for raising Jesus. Isaiah 43:11, God said there is no savior besides him. Titus 3:6 Jesus is called our Saviour. John 6:46, Jesus says no one has seen the Father, yet Abraham spoke face to face with God in Genesis 18:19, Moses spoke face to face with God in Exodus 33:11 and Moses and the elders of Israel went up Mount Sinai and saw the God of Israel seated on a throne and ate with him. Jacob wrestled with God in Genesis 32:22-32. Jesus is the one who ascends and descends out of heaven and the appearances of God throughout the Old Testament is Jesus. This is why he said before Abraham was, I am in John 8:58 Gensis 19:24 "Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah-from the LORD out of the heavens." When LORD is all caps it's using God's holy name in Hebrew, and Abraham was just pleading face to face with God to not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Gen 19:24 says Yahweh rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah from Yahweh out of heaven. Jesus is the Yahweh who spoke to Abraham face to face and called sulfur and brimstone out of heaven from Yahweh the Father. Jesus is God with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jesus IS the Messiah, friend. The Trinity is what scripture taught from the beginning because it is from the scripture that the idea of the tri-unity between the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit as being God teaches. Not something come up with later. Mark 1:1-4, the very first verses of the very first chapter of what is cited as the very first Gospel calls Jesus God. It refrences Isaiah 40:3 and Malachi 3:1 where Yahweh says he will send his messanger who will be like a voice in the wilderness to make the way before he himself comes to his temple. Mark says John is that voice in the wilderness, making the way for Jesus. John 1:23 , Matthew 3:3, and Luke 3:4 also say the exact same things. So all four Gospels call Jesus Yahweh in the first few chapters in the exact same way quoting the exact same Old Testamentt scriptures to do so. In Mark 10:18, Jesus said,"Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God." Meaning: "You call me good when only God is good, do you understand what you are calling me?" To further the point, Christ then lists the 6 commandments that relate to how people deal with each other and asks the man if he's followed those. The man says yes. Then, instead of listing the 4 commandments on how to relate to God and asking if he's followed those, Jesus tells the man, "Follow me," because following and worshiping Christ is following and worshiping God. In Mark Jesus heals the paralytic man, but first, he tells him your sins are forgiven. The Pharisees around thought in their hearts this was blasphemy, because only God can forgive sins. Jesus instantly know what they were thinking and called them out on it, and said to prove to you I can forgive sins, get up and walk and the paralytic could walk. Jesus proved he is God for only God can forgive sins, only God knows the hearts of men (Jerimiah 11:20 and 17:10), and only God can heal people. Jesus did all three in Mark's Gospel, which is often considered the oldest of the four. Read Hebrews 1:8-12. Old Testament scriptures are quoted that are talking about God creating the universe, and Hebrews 1:8-12 quotes them and attributes the Father calling Jesus God, the Lord who created the everything, who is eternal. Hebrews 1:10-12 Is directly quoting Psalm 102:25-27, where the Psalm is talkling about Yahweh (God) and Hebrews is talking about Jesus, the Son. Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. 2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Isaiah 48:16 “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.” (God is speaking, saying he was there from the beginning, and that the Lord God and His Spirit sent him. The Trinity in the Old Testament.) Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. These next passages are about the Holy Spirit being a seperate person from the Father and the Son, and also being God. Matthew 3:16-17 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John 15:26-27 But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. 27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning. John 16:13-15 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you. 2 Samuel 23:2-3 (David calling the Spirit God) “The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, And His word was on my tongue. 3 The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me: ‘He who rules over men must be just, Ruling in the fear of God. Acts 5:3-4 (Peter calling the Spirit God) But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”

Esau is the Father in Genesis 36 Eliphaz was a grandson AND he is a Tamenite, his sons name is Taman.. You know the Eliphaz of Job that was a waste of time for Job and gave Job bad advice. So, The book of Job is not the oldest book in the Bible. Genesis & Exodus record all one needs to know about Esau and the Edomites

@magistradox39

21 күн бұрын

According to the Septuagint Job was an Edomite. The king of Edom. The book of Job is the oldest book, because of the archaic words used there. So Moses could have gotten this story, when he lived in Midian. Who knows.

What did Paul say about being caught up in foolish genealogy

@sharonjacob4782

23 күн бұрын

This is not foolish genealogy. That statement was directed towards a very specific practice.

@angelashort1331

23 күн бұрын

Genealogy became a political stepping stone and still is today , with house marrying into house to gain power and control . PURSUEING that agenda we end up with today's, power seekers , WEF and Un and House of Saud etc , it's foolish to chase what they chase , equally foolish to be unobserved of its repercussions , . They infiltrate everything from infrastructure, banking ,politics , ie Black rock, Black stone , NO RIGHTEOUS KINGDOM IN THEM .

@carlmassengale1027

21 күн бұрын

Didn't Paul speak of "endless genealogies"?

@sharonjacob4782

21 күн бұрын

@carlmassengale1027 Jewish lines and its the purpose for them that is the issue. Ie Why are you investigating the genealogical lines? In this video simply looking at how and who Edom was, is part of knowing the whole context of the Bible and part of the veracity of the story.

@carlmassengale1027

20 күн бұрын

@@sharonjacob4782 I don't disagree. My remark was directed toward Paul's actual language - "foolish genealogy" is not mentioned among his writings.

Jacob did NOT inherit ''all the land'' and / or ''all the money''. In fact, he inherited NOTHING. Whatever he gained, he earned!! The descendants of Esau, established the nation of Edom and it had kings long before the nation of Israel was ever established. In fact, the first king of Israel (Saul) wasn't king until around 700 years after Edom had been flourishing.