One error: Rashad White has two years left on his contract

@toekneecornhighsir7299

21 күн бұрын

Unforgivable

@BigBroKuma

21 күн бұрын

​@@toekneecornhighsir7299😂

@Ilikedogs9000

21 күн бұрын

also bucky irving was in lost not added

@brendonbuffaloe8830

21 күн бұрын

@@Ilikedogs9000That’s a visual glitch only. He said they added him

@mr.bigmac5562

21 күн бұрын

you also have bucky irving as a loss

Anyone that's watched TFG for even a little bit knows how high he is on Kyler

@memeteam2692

21 күн бұрын

I remember the day Murray declared for the draft he came out with a mock draft taking him 1st overall. Months before that idea caught on

Deep in my heart I knew Marcus was a closeted Cardinals fan, and it makes me so happy

@usopenitentiary

22 күн бұрын

Right? They shouldn’t be as high as they’re getting

@jeffredfern3744

22 күн бұрын

​@@usopenitentiary except they had like a dozen draft picks mostly in the top 100, one being MHJ.

@benbauer7866

22 күн бұрын

I think it’s an extension of him believing in Kyler. Problem is: their division is going to be absolute hell

@josecuevas644

22 күн бұрын

As a cardinals fan, I’m sure that our run will coming to an end soon!

@ricardorivera7549

22 күн бұрын

@@jeffredfern3744 still lot of unproven rookies

Top 20 players in the series so far 1. Dexter Lawrence (95) 2. Max Crosby (95) 3. Pat Surtain (94) 4. Devonte Adams (91) 5. Tristan Wirfs (91) 6. Antoine Winfield (90) 7. Andrew Thomas (89) 8. Terry Mclaurin (89) 9. Derrick Brown (88) 10. Demario Davis (87) 11. Mike Evans (87) 12. DeAndre Hopkins (87) 13. Khalil Mack (87) 14. Tyrann Matthieu (87) 15. Justin Herbert (86) 16. Vita Vea (86) 17. Rashawn Slater (86) 18. L'jarius Sneed (86) 19. Kolton Miller (86) 20. Marshon Lattimore (86)

@MarkusfromH

19 күн бұрын

Great post! Thanks for your work! I am all into these deep dives as well and will post some soon. One suggestion for you: if some players are rated with the same punctuation, you could just state they are tied for a specific rank. For example: players 15 to 20 are all rated with a punctuation of 86. Thus, you could rank all of them "tied for 15th best player" of your list. Just a suggestion! Thanks a lot! Also, it would be fun to know, at how many points the "elite", "star", "stud" and "good starters" start. I thin the elite tier starts somewhere around 90 points. I keep forgetting that. Best regards!

I’ve been checking KZread 5 times a day since Saturday, we are ready for the next deep dive!

@ThatFranchiseGuy

13 күн бұрын

Mid move to Charlotte! Hoping Friday night or Saturday AM!

@kevinalexander5885

13 күн бұрын

Appreciate the update and good luck with the move!

@Toastmaster_General

11 күн бұрын

@@ThatFranchiseGuywelcome to North Carolina! Now get to churning out videos or I WILL cry

@michealhornets6535

11 күн бұрын

Only good thing is we will be getting like one every other day now. Season is only roughly 55 days away and we have 22 deep dives to get through

Cant wait to see all the people yelling about no Cardinals!😆

@maskedman5657

21 күн бұрын

I'm still shocked that he has the Buccaneers and Chargers below the Cardinals. I have them both winning more then the Cardinals on my board.

@matheus074

21 күн бұрын

​@@maskedman5657Marcus is way too high on Kyler Murray IMO

@mattr.8470

21 күн бұрын

@@maskedman5657To be fair the Raiders and Chargers games made it clear that these power rankings aren’t equal to how many games he thinks they’ll win

@Beardown451

21 күн бұрын

Even with a hard ass schedule as well

@maskedman5657

21 күн бұрын

@@mattr.8470 oh

We need another deep dive Marcus. Love them

i know he said he was in the midst of moving, but fuck im itching for another deep dive

Chop chop deep Dive boy drop the next video

@ethanducharme2510

12 күн бұрын

He’s moving to Charlotte the next deep dive is coming out Tomorrow or Saturday

@Emoney9420

12 күн бұрын

@@ethanducharme2510 appreciate the info 🙌🏽

I think the best way to describe the value of NT re: PFF is that a 60 grade for a NT is equal to 2 defenders doing their job adequately. A 68-rated NT does the job of 2 defenders better than adequately. It switches the numbers advantage to the defense.

@ThatFranchiseGuy

21 күн бұрын

Well put!

marcus you baiting me into thinking it was the steelers on twitter was not okay. that being said i respect the hell out of it and am going to watch this whole video.

@ThatFranchiseGuy

21 күн бұрын

😉

@venturea7

21 күн бұрын

@@ThatFranchiseGuylove ya marcus keep up the deep dives it gives me hope for football coming back 🫡

@nikolassimijis

19 күн бұрын

@@ThatFranchiseGuySteelers rams cardinals?

I really liked when you showed last years Oline group compared to this year it really emphasized the growth in that group

It will be hard work to get all 22 other teams done before season starts🥵🥵🥵

For anyone asking for the Cardinals remember how good the Cardinals and Kyler were and are when they had a solid team, a true number 1 receiver, and we have a real coach again

@awenner

22 күн бұрын

I don't remember when that was ever the case

@aokuang2958

22 күн бұрын

@@awenner 2021?

@hiroshi1046

22 күн бұрын

@@awennerjust ousted yourself as not a football guy

@maskedman5657

21 күн бұрын

I also remembered that the 2021 Cardinals had a lot more depth every where. They had Zaven Collins, Byron Murphy, Chandler Jones, AJ Green, Christian Kirk, RonDale Moore, DHop and JJ Watt of im remembering Correctly. So not remotely the same team

@zackhurwitz9441

21 күн бұрын

​@@maskedman5657he also said "a real coach again" but they were coached by Cliff Kingsbury, who got blamed by everyone for all of Arizona's struggles, so not sure if that makes sense.

Itching for a new deep dive

Buddy your going to need to be working overtime to finish this before the season start

Marcus where are my deep dives it’s been a week

@vdastampede

14 күн бұрын

Bucc fans couldn’t handle their ranking and got him

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

It was me I got him

@jacobbell1934

11 күн бұрын

He occasionally takes breaks like these

@gilbertcole8324

11 күн бұрын

I hope he is okay

@imhotepnixon

11 күн бұрын

He’s puts updates on his Twitter usually I’m about to check

New deep dive and an all star feature Marcus is in his bag

Idk how it’d work, but I would like to see the potentials “grade” next to guys who you have the up arrow next to.

In 2023, the deep dive tiers were as follows: 100-90 score: "elite", featured in purple, 89-86 score: "star", featured in dark blue, 85-81 score "stud", featured in light blue, 80-77 "good starter", featured in green, 77-70 "adequate starter", featured in yellow ( Marcus mixed the numbers up a little. Some players with a score of 77 were labeled "good starters", other players with the same score of 77 were labeled "adequate starters". ) Then a score of 71-67 would be the "replacement level", featured in orange, while the ranks got mixed up here a little again. Some players with a score of 70 or 71 were labeled "adequate starters", in yellow, whereas other players with that same score of 71, or 70 were ranked as "replacement level" in orange. The next tier started at a score of 66 and would be the "poor prospect level", featured in red. The lowest score still labeled "poor prospect" was 59. So, maybe the last level "not NFL ready" featured in grey may start with a score below 59, thus 58 and below. Regards!

When is your next deep dive coming out

@ThatFranchiseGuy

13 күн бұрын

Friday night or Saturday, hopefully 🤞

TFG QB rankings 6. Justin Herbert 20. Derek Carr 21. Baker Mayfield 23. Daniel Jones 25. Bryce Young 27. Drake Maye/ Jacoby Brissett 28. Will Levis T29. Bo Nix T29. Aidan O’Connell/ Gardner Minshew 32. Jayden Daniels

@tkdmanbb185

22 күн бұрын

I usually agree with Marcus on things but I don’t see how Baker Mayfield is worse than Derek Carr 😭

@philibusters23

21 күн бұрын

Definitely respect Marcus, but as a Commanders fan, the only QB on that list I would take over Daniels is Herbert (admittedly I am looking beyond this year--if it was only this year like Marcus is grading them, I could see taking Carr, Mayfield, or Jones over him)

@Boxinglobster

21 күн бұрын

1. Kyler Murray probably

@Beardown451

21 күн бұрын

@@tkdmanbb185me neither. Carr is bad man

@nasifulhuda31

20 күн бұрын

Baker Mayfield below Derek Carr???

I was not expecting the team that won a playoff game and didn’t get meaningfully worse to land in the 20s, but I can kind of see it. That’s why we love this series.

@ashleyjade5607

21 күн бұрын

I mean, tbf, Tampa won a very weak NFC South and then basically stood to the side while the Eagles shot themselves in the face 20 straight times to end their season lol, plus losing Canales is a big blow on offense imo

@michaellaroche3418

21 күн бұрын

​@@ashleyjade5607lol stood to the side? 🤣🤣🤣 You people are funny ASF man and boy y'all just overblowing that whole canales thing man

@MrShuggadaddy

21 күн бұрын

@@michaellaroche3418 he was making a joke but the cardinals and seahawks both beat the eagles at the end of the season, with starters playing. They were the worst team in the playoffs by that point. Bucs did win, but that was a game they should’ve won

@Everynamewastaken

21 күн бұрын

⁠@@michaellaroche3418 They just breeze over us going 5-1 to even make it to the playoffs and totally agree about Canales. Dude was avg at best

@michaellaroche3418

21 күн бұрын

@@Everynamewastaken Exactly. I thought he was decent. I mean it was his first time calling plays EVER. But it's annoying how the national media is just dramatizing and giving all the credit to canales dude play sequencing was horrible AF look up bucs offensive stats ranking in the league all of them was like in the 20's. He's not this offensive guru like they making him out to be.

No way! 😂 As a Minnesota Vikings fan, I thank you so much!!!

@zackaryhaselius2226

22 күн бұрын

Cant see us surviving past 20 though right? I mean if the QB was good wed be high but...

@dawsnoshift

22 күн бұрын

Ngl I definitely thought y’all was next😂

@JoshuaDobbs-Spaceman

21 күн бұрын

@@dawsnoshift That’s what I thought too! I love J.J. to JJ so that’s okay.

@maskedman5657

21 күн бұрын

I think Minnesota is automatically within 20 imo because they have one of the best coaching Staffs

@zackhurwitz9441

21 күн бұрын

​@@maskedman5657and easily a top 5 skill position group, with the best, young tackle duo in the league.

Might be a hot take, but I like learning about the offensive line probably the most in these videos just because I think offensive lineman are not talked about enough and I know the least about them

We miss you Marcus😢

I just realised that every single AFC West team besides KC has already been revealed 😭 Chiefs might hit a 3 peat if this Tomfoolery is not halted

@CatalystOW

20 күн бұрын

Yeah that's probably the biggest thing helping them in this dynasty. Same situation for the Brady Patriots. Bills and dolphins were terrible pretty much right up until he left

That was a freaking DEEP dive. Go Bucs.

how is this guy Mr. Among Others getting on every damn roster in the league

@rjante2236

21 күн бұрын

Very good interviewer

Hello? Are you still with us? 😢

@JasonPollock-my7xt

13 күн бұрын

Haha right, we’ve been abandoned

@wbke

13 күн бұрын

Apparently the Bucs needed a week of attention

@justkidding3033

12 күн бұрын

He's moving to charlotte right now but he said Friday or Saturday morning

@user-oq4ox2ww1c

12 күн бұрын

@justkidding3033 thank you for the update, I'll be eagerly waiting lol

“Does Kyler Murray have you hostage?”

@RyanTheIncredible882

21 күн бұрын

He had him ranked as a top 8 QB going into last year, so I think he's just a Murray truther. Besides, Kyler is too small to hold Marcus hostage.

I appreciate the work you’re putting into this Marcus

Deep dives deserve more views for sure

Gah damn, this is a far cry from when they were the arguably top 5 at every positional unit except RB team from a couple years ago

@BigBroKuma

22 күн бұрын

Ikr that deep dive was crazy. They were so hyped and delivered on the hype 😭

NFC North NFC West AFC North Still no teams out of those divisions wow wow

@usopenitentiary

22 күн бұрын

Probably won’t be seeing any AFC North teams until the top 16

@BigBroKuma

22 күн бұрын

Those are the killer divisions rn 😂

Deep Dive ?

Godwin is going to be playing more in the slot this season so his numbers will look better this year. Also majorly sleeping on McMillian

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Fr

Enjoyed the video

Loved the breakdown plus Trevor is one of my favorite guests, thanks Marcus

Marcus really putting the Cardinals in the top 10 😭😭💀💀

@maskedman5657

21 күн бұрын

Yeah I want what Marcus is smoking

The GM for the Tampa Bay Bucs should be considered the best GM in football. I legitimately dont know how he has gotten away with underpaying players like Jamel Dean and Lavonte David for so long 😂

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Fr he gets no respect

Likes are looking good so far boys! Keep it up!! Also Cardinals, hold the line!!!

Best series on KZread best thing to listen too on a car ride

Wtf??? Bro people need to stop hating on baker hes legit a good qb and they almost came back and beat the lions bro take this down

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Fr bro this pissin me off

As a Seahawks fan I'm happy we're still here but I'm scared because our whole division is still here

I loved the growth from Zyon in year 2. I still believe in him making the leap and becoming a stud.

after seeing the tweet I was very prepared to defend my Steelers but now I'm relieved

People seem to forget that they have made the playoffs 4 years in a row and won their division 3 years in a row. They beefed up their O-Line, added to the WR & RB rooms and have an upgrade at OC calling plays. I really think they have a better team this year than last year and should be enough to be Atlanta.

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

I'm saying plus we've literally beaten cousins last 2 times we faced him since 2020 when our team turned a leaf

What a time to be a bear fan and still waiting for our vid

Reminder Marcus is very high on Trey McBride, James Connor, and Kyler Murray. Not to mention Marvin Harrison. The cards may clock in as a top 12 passing game

Predicting rest of TFG power rankings (not my rankings) 1. Chiefs 2. 49ers 3. Eagles 4. Lions 5. Bengals 6. Ravens 7. Jets 8. Packers 9. Browns 10. Bills 11. Texans 12. Cowboys 13. Dolphins 14. Colts 15. Rams 16. Seahawks 17. Falcons 18. Steelers 19. Bears 20. Jags 21. Vikings 22. Cardinals

@wbke

13 күн бұрын

Vikings lower than the Bears & Steelers is criminal

I really like Yaya last year. He looked great to me and seemed to progress. With the logic of Todd Bowles and Tryon getting better each year , I would think him progressing shouldn't be farfetched

Maybe a dumb question, but where do you get your All 22 film?

Marcus ur crazy man 😭 great vid tho

Wait you have Carr over Baker? Also, do you think Baker can get better processing with time and if so how high can his overall get with that improvement

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Yea just that take right there should tell you everything you need to know this guy doesn't know what he's talking about at times Baker has a better coordinator this year therefore he's gonna be better

Each Deep Dive I say “gotta be the Cardinals” and every time I’m very pleasantly surprised. I know Marcus is high on Murray and I love him for that but clearly he’s kinda high on the rest of the team/coaching and that makes me so happy. Go Cards but I’ll say it, next DD gotta be the Cardinals (fingers crossed it’s not lol)

@ChickenPotPie727

21 күн бұрын

Also I love seeing all the AZ fans showing up to each DD to share the same feelings 😂

Compared to Last Year's Deep Dive 32. Washington Commanders (-4) 31. New England Patriots (-16) 30. Carolina Panthers (-10) 29. Tennessee Titans (-10) 28. Denver Broncos (-9) 27. New York Giants (-14) 26. New Orleans Saints (-2) 25. Los Angeles Chargers (-13) 24. Las Vegas Raiders (+2) 23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (+6)

Every new upload is another day where my Vikings move one more spot up the list.

Trevor and Marcus content I’m just overjoyed

Crazy, i was just listening to the bootleg football podcast to their version of a deep dive on the Panthers as this dropped, they were just talking about how Carolina stole TB's coaches. Also, the chargers are way too low. Great vid as always tfg!!

Won our division 3 years in a row and still being doubted. I get everything that was said but the talent is there and I think we can win it again and even go further if need be #gobucs

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Fr Go bucs

Marcus cooking

As a Vikes fan, if we drafted Winfield Jr. instead of Gladney (RIP), we would have been a dynamo with him and Jefferson. It hurts even more knowing we didn’t even keep Anthony Harris after 2020-2021.

Everyone asking where the cardinals are like they aren’t loaded with young talent and a more than capable quarterback

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Literally the Bucs we may have older receivers but our RB room n TE room is young plus we got great tackles Cody mauch is developing and we'll see who's on the other guard spot then we got Barton only person stopping this team is Todd Bowles

LETS GOOOOOOO

Not Falcons? Interesting

Sleeping on my Bucs once again TFG?! I thought we learned from last year!

@zackaryhaselius2226

21 күн бұрын

Well....when he put them #1, they went 8-9 and got thrashed in their one playoff game.

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Fr

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

​@@zackaryhaselius2226well that was from Byron Leftwhich ruining our offense

Lavonte David’s gonna finish his career top 5 in tackles he’s not “debatable” HOF

Marcus and Trevor a must watch 👌

23 for the Bucs is surprising but I understand how your calculations worked out. 1. You clearly gave Baker's grade based on his whole season performance, which had some awesome flashes but a lot of inconsistency, especially in the first part of the year. If you were grading him based on his late season and playoff performances, I think it should be higher. I think the image a lot of bucs fans have is that he spent the early part of the year figuring things out after two years of chaos he endured, and the Baker we see this season will be more consistent. I believe this is true as well, but I don't blame you for not giving him the benefit of the doubt. 2. Since Liam Coen is a new OC, you had to rank him really low, and that drags the offensive grade down a ton. It wouldn't be fair to give him a high rating since he hasn't proven anything, so I don't disagree with your grade, but I also don't expect him to be one of the bottom 3-5 OC's in the league all year. If Liam Coen turns out of be at least an average OC, the Bucs offensive rank will surely go up. TLDR: If Baker Mayfield can be more consistent and Liam Coen does a good job this year, this team is better than 23rd best team in the NFL. But if Baker repeats the same inconsistencies as last year and Liam Coen struggles as an OC, this rating is accurate. 23 is this team's floor.

@jacobbell1934

20 күн бұрын

Well baker has never been consistently good. He’s on the Andy dalton line and that will likely never change for the better

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Liam Coen literally made Kentucky's offense one of the best in the SEC and just had a bad QB he's one of the only OCs to get them to 50 TDs n was in some of the top rankings in SEC n college Football offensively. Baker's never had consistency because his coordinators were never consistently good he's finally got an actual good one who will lead a top offense this year

@yourdreams2440

14 күн бұрын

@@Yallknowtrey Yeah that's why I believe in him, Liam Coen seems like he could be a great OC.

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

@@yourdreams2440 Yea idk y people have more faith in guys who never called plays at all

@yourdreams2440

14 күн бұрын

@@Yallknowtrey sometimes they dont work out ig

Funny to hear there is no QB of the future in Tampa and then compare the backup to a Super Bowl MVP

You've got the RBs on offseason changes backwards.

You know ball TFG

You telling me the cardinals are higher then the bucs??? I got to see how

@michaellaroche3418

21 күн бұрын

Lol makes no sense whatsoever

Armstrong "retired" in lieu of being fired. He's basically been the picture of low-middle tier coaching. And Canales is brilliant? Maybe a brilliant communicator, person, general coach, etc. But let's be serious for a minute about him as an OC.

Hey @thatfranchiseguy I know this isn’t a very pro Cleveland Browns channel due to our Watson signing but you should reach out to Jake Burns when you get to our team. He’d be a great interview

Tykee is starting at the nickel. Shaq didn't get better as the year went on😅

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Well it's a position battle between him and Izien but he'll probably get play there anyway but you're right about Shaq

Did you rlly just rank Javonte over White…? As a broncos fan…. let’s be better. He’s just not the 2nd worst rb in the nfl man there’s no chance. Dude isn’t just lucking his way into his production with the worst run blocking in nfl lol

Lavonte David would have like 40 ints if he didn't have bricks for hands :(

Don't worry, fans of TFG know ball. We voted Antoine Winfield for pro bowl

Marcus dang man.... Why wont you just give Jamel Dean a 90 rating? Hes one of the most consistent corners in the league from the snap to snap basis and has to my research never given up more than 500 yards nor 4 TDs in one season. Tied that up with him being such an excellent run defender im still shocked you haven't given him a 90

@felixlara2945

21 күн бұрын

He's made of glass and that does lower his overall grade

@C4Snipes

21 күн бұрын

Did you watch the video on mute

@maskedman5657

21 күн бұрын

@@felixlara2945 Made of Glass? Dude what are you talking about?

@maskedman5657

21 күн бұрын

@@C4Snipes Nope

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

​@@maskedman5657bro I'm a Bucs fan he was injured in 2021 2022 and was consistently getting injured in 2023 when he's on the field he's pretty good tho

Can you show full position rankings at some point

Not video related sorry, but I hope you consider live streaming your reaction to some games when the season begins. Tom Grossi like 😅

@ThatFranchiseGuy

21 күн бұрын

That's the plan!

Do the Cardinals know where the bodies are buried?

Mike Evans ranked as a 87 & Godwin ranked as a 82 lmaoooooo

@michaellaroche3418

21 күн бұрын

Shit crazy lol 🤣🤣

Dave Danales

im just gonna stop making cardinals comments because everyone else is now just as surprised as me 😂😂

Bruh we gonna have give Wirfs our pirate ship at this point 😭😭😭

Do you think that the Bucs will use Evans on those play action y tight end shots

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

What are you talking about man

Thanks for another great deep dive!

@koldonn1111

21 күн бұрын

'Great' Probably his worst one in years dogg

NPC possession Tight End 😂

i was so scared it was the steelers because twitter

Hey don't forget to remind us to like the video. I always forget to do it until you remind us! Lol

diaby’s peak feels like a samson ebukam tbh

It’s not so much about the competition in the division. Baker has more wins in the playoffs than Carr and Cousins combined, which isn’t bragging about Baker, but pointing out what we have always known about the other two. They don’t show up big games, and most of Carr’s numbers come in garbage time, yet still coming up short. Cousins is coming to a new team, new coach and new OC (that has never called plays before). Different than Roger’s, his injury was on his pushoff foot. They may have an easy schedule, but it’s the back half of their schedule that is easiest (by far). It will take a while to get used to one another… the Falcons could be easily behind 0-2 against the Bucs before they get on the same page

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Seriously they love to count him out

Do Diaby and Dean have alignment versatility or do they stick to one side? Boundary corner? LDE?

@felixlara2945

21 күн бұрын

Everybody in the Todd Bowles defense will play everywhere on the field, Dean is useless in the slot tho

@felixlara2945

21 күн бұрын

Even vita Vea will line up everywhere on the Dline and drop back into coverage 💀💀

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

​@@felixlara2945well we have nickel players so dean wouldn't be there regardless

The Jags the Cardinals the Seahawks the Colts the Bears the Falcons and the Jets should be the remaining Non Playoff Teams

THE CARDINAL CONTINUES TO FLY!!!!!!!

You’re tripping on the running back room. Their Oline is gonna open up whites ability to make moves downfield

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Plus Bucky Irving in the mix

Marcus, again great analysis especially on the players and offense versus defense. I agree the Bucs have the worst run game of the NFL and the edges are also mediocre at best (no stud number 1). I only feel you overrated the contribution of Dave Canales (both his positive contribution to the Panthers as well as the drop off towards Liam Coen). I would have expected the Bucs to be higher (between 18 - 22 range) as I expect the O-line to be better and the receiver group is also better than you rated them.

@michaellaroche3418

18 күн бұрын

Lol the whole world has been overrating canales it's ridiculous

@Yallknowtrey

14 күн бұрын

Well I think you're contradicting yourself throughout this. The O-line will be better as will the OC therefore the run game will get better