Pee Wee Herman’s father was one of the first US pilots to fly the German fighters in Israel. The story I heard was the first flight after The German fighter was reassembled in Israel was a combat mission against a tank Attack at the start of the war. No test flights, Straight into combat!

@shevetlevi2821

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't know it was PeeWee Herman's father. If I remember correctly this was the first or second day of the War of Independence and there was a huge Egyptian tank column about 15 miles south of Tel Aviv. The entire Israeli Air Force fighter component was just 4 Me-109s (actually the inferior Czech version with tractor engines and bomber propellers). They attacked the tank column. I think just one bomb was dropped and they also strafed it and they had malfunctions. One of the Israeli fighters was shot down and I think one crashed on landing. Thankfully in the months to come they were successful in filliing in their need of fighters, bombers and transports.

@buckstarchaser2376

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like your bullshit detector is out of tune.

@harleywylie2909

2 жыл бұрын

The free movie channel Tubi has the movie "Above and Beyond". PeeWee and his mother are among those interviewed and adding to commentary. It is a good movie and gives a lot of background history, their combat pilots commentary mixed with pointed examples/opinions and some unexpected humor.

@shevetlevi2821

2 жыл бұрын

@@harleywylie2909 Thanks Harley. I just found it on Tubi as you said and started watching it.

@tilulenshpigel8396

2 жыл бұрын

@@shevetlevi2821 It was Pee Wee Herman father indeed. He was a real Badass pilot. you can find all about in the documentary movie a A "Prayer and a wing",

My Father-in-law was a bombardier and waist gunner in one of these in 1948 War of Independence. As a Naval Air Service Veteran he was sought out to volunteer for the Hagganah’s Air Service. Also the go between the Jewish Agency / Hagganah and the Czech government for the armament was the then Chief Rabbi , Rabbi Vothand obm .

@twill9278

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps he knew either of the Borris Seniors.

@bennie613

2 жыл бұрын

@@twill9278 I never heard him mention them However if they part of the 69th squadron then likely

@trespire

11 ай бұрын

There are no words fitting enough to thank what your father inlaw did. I was a phantom maintainer working on 69th Squadron's phantoms. Those guys are something else. פטישים לנצח

@gregohb

11 ай бұрын

Hagganah was a terror organization. The 1948 war was textbook ethnic cleansing.

I realize the B24 had better range and bomb load, as did the Lancaster, but the B17 was renowned for reliability, durability and ease of handling. It was sweet looking, too. If it looks right, it is right. Boeing overbuilt everything on this bird, brought a lot of guys back because of it.

@adamlee3772

2 жыл бұрын

Good point. Strategically the Lancaster was a far superior aircraft, it was a lot cheaper than the B17 per unit and although it had a lot lower payload, the B17 had better defensive armament. The B17 was more survivable if needing to bail out as well. The Lancaster and the B17 were both very reliable though. I love the sound of the Lanc along with B17 and they’re both beautiful to view.

@timengineman2nd714

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamlee3772 Actually, the Lancaster had one other issue, besides having shorter range (both US Heavy Bombers were designed as patrol aircraft to intercept an attacking fleet approaching the US), and that was the altitude it flew at. With most bomb loads it flew about 5,000 feet (~1,524 meters) lower than the US bomber formations (the top units were more than 15,000 feet (~4,572 meters) higher than the Lancasters!). This placed it well within the Range Envelope of the 88mm Anti-Aircraft guns!!! (The B-17's & B-24's were barely in this envelope and therefor had a much shorter time that the 88's could shoot at them!

@F_Tim1961

2 жыл бұрын

The B17 had an internally two layer corrugated wing section so that even if they had a failure inthe truss spar of the wing because of shrapnel, they potentially could survive without folding up.

@lohikarhu734

2 жыл бұрын

And the tiny little Mosquito had a similar bomb load, only two crew, over 100 mph faster, the lowest loss ratio of any bomber...

@Paiadakine

2 жыл бұрын

@@lohikarhu734 I read about the mosquito. Seems like they should have built a bazillion mosquitoes. The only limitation would be the giant earthquake bombs the Lancaster dropped on ships, sub bases and bridges.

05:33 Standing, second from left, Capt. Chris Magee, 10-victory ace and member of the famous Black Sheep Squadron, VMF-214. He flew for the original Israeli Air Force in those dreadful Czech built BF-109's.

My father was in Syria in 1948. After he died in 2006, I digitised all his negatives including a couple of pictures of bomb strikes taken from the top of the Damascus hotel where he was staying. The negative cover said "Israeli B17 bomb strikes mid 1948."

For the really complete story read the book, "Angels in the Sky" by Robert Gandt, Norton publishing. It gives the whole story of how the fledgling air force was recruited, how the fighters, bombers and transports were acquired and the personalities involved. Sometimes humorous, sometimes heartbreaking.

@kirbyculp3449

2 жыл бұрын

I had a signed copy of 'Rabbi with Wings'. I gave it to a jewish friend.

@shevetlevi2821

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirbyculp3449 Nice. I just looked it up. Very special guy.

@douglasjones2570

11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@shevetlevi2821

11 ай бұрын

@@douglasjones2570 Hope you enjoy it Douglas.

@douglasjones2570

9 ай бұрын

@AZ-zn9lg I didn’t realize it was that many. I wish that they could somehow, someday soon, have peace and Justice for all. And for the planet.

You would think that Spielberg would do a movie about this subject instead of Hollywood doing so many remakes of movies that should have never been made!

@alfavulcan4518

2 жыл бұрын

No, Hollywood hates Israel and would be more likely to make a PLO movie. Would be a great subject though

@Chilly_Billy

2 жыл бұрын

Anything viewed as "pro Israel" would be protested and boycotted by the woke among us.

@georgedistel1203

2 жыл бұрын

@@alfavulcan4518 absolutely 💯

@georgedistel1203

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chilly_Billy no doubt, but you know I'm feeling that the woke ones can kiss my wrinkled white butt!

@robertlewis1965

2 жыл бұрын

Something like maybe along the lines of " SCHINDLER'S LIST " , which was SPIELBERG'S best ever movie &my personal favorite !

I flown in the b17, twice, wonderful experience, iconic aircraft

Fascinating story! I had no idea of this bit of history. There's also an equally interesting way the Indian Air Force got its B-24's after the war and they served until the 1970's.

3:25 My uncle Philip Marmelstein can be seen at image left, sitting on the nose of the IAI Avia (Czech built Bf-109). :)

My late Uncle was one of those pilots who ferried aircraft to Israel in 1948. A cool guy. Died in a tragic car accident.

@903lew

11 ай бұрын

A brave man, may his memory be a blessing.

@alberttablatin5300

11 ай бұрын

He's a real hero. A brave and honorable man

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

11 ай бұрын

I wish people treated vehicles as the potential 120mph battering rams they can be in stupid/ignorant hands. Condolences.

@MOE435

10 ай бұрын

May his soul be blessed!

I do know there's a Canadian connection with one of Israels B17s. I joined the Canadian naval air arm in 1950. I was 17 years old. We had a naval air base on the Dartmouth side of Halifax harbour about 10 miles or so east. It was called HMCS Shearwater and I believe it was inherited from the Canadian Air Force coastal command in 1946. Now I'm not certain if this B-17 was a part of the group mentioned in this video. Only that it was trying to make it's way to Israel by flying up the east coast of the US and Canada and across the North Atlantic via Greenland/Iceland/Scotland etc. The story I got from first hand personnel was that the aircraft lost an engine or two, declared an emergency and came into our base in the middle of the night. I can't remember if this was 1948 or 1949 because it was so long ago. But I got the story from actual personnel who worked on the aircraft for the next few days. I have no idea what went on behind the scenes with the upper echelon of our base, nor do I know what sort of communications went on between the base commander and the Dept. of Defense in Ottawa. All I know is what was told to me by mechanics and air frame personnel who worked on the aircraft to get it airborne. I was told the aircraft was loaded to the gills with small arms, small arm ammunition, mortars, hand grenades etc. All personnel involved in the incident were sworn to secrecy and the aircraft was rolled into one of our maintenance hangars for repair. Apparently it was known that this was an illegal flight and the situation was kept under wraps. Our guys worked on this aircraft for the next few days until it was airworthy and able to continue its flight toward Israel. It flew out in the middle of the night and was never seen again. In addition, we had two fighter pilots, who will remain nameless, who flew the Messerschmidt 109 for Israel in 1948/49 as well. When I watched this video it reminded me of this story, so I thought I would share it. Many countries were supportive of Israel and turned a blind eye toward a lot of the shenanigans going on behind the scenes. Probably through guilt, because many of them, including Canada, refused to take in Jewish refugees fleeing Germany in 1937/38.

@trespire

11 ай бұрын

I was a Phantom maintainer in the IAF, worked mostly on 69th Hammers. We had a small library on base, where I read about how these 3 B-17s were the cornerstone for the 69th Squadron. In this dim dinky library, there were several hand written - photostat, as well as printed published books. I do recall reading on some Canadian pilots playing a very active part in the establishment of the IAF, pilot training programs, tactics and such.

@marbleman52

11 ай бұрын

@billfarley9167...Mr. Farley....I couldn't help but do a little math. You were born 1933 so you are now 90 years old. But what impresses me is your eloquent writing...wow !! I just hope that I am as clear minded at 90 as you are...!!!

@douglasjones2570

11 ай бұрын

Really great story. Thank you very much for sharing!

@samkohen4589

10 ай бұрын

@samkohen4589 @samkohen4589 2 weeks ago One of these Canadian pilots was John McElroy, who after having served with distinction during World War II then flew for Israel. On January 9, 1949 he shot down 2 RAF spitfires making him the only person to have shot down both German and British aircraft. 1

Absolutely fascinating. Leaving aside for the moment the political aspects of the Middle East, you have to admire the determination, imagination and improvisation of the Israelis - a people struggling to birth their nation and defend it.

@SolomFoz

11 ай бұрын

it's exactly like you are praising ISIS for obtaining arms from shadow dealers to build their nation and defend it.

@greggstrasser5791

11 ай бұрын

By causing 2 world wars? OK.

@reconzero5699

11 ай бұрын

*steal

@scottjoseph9578

11 ай бұрын

​​@@reconzero5699Fight for it. The Palestinians decided to try to murder the Jewish state in its cradle, and allied with Hitler. But you do you. The Jews will be alive for millenia, and your genes will be dust. Am Yisrael Chai!

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

11 ай бұрын

​@@reconzero5699disagree. There are artifacts pulled from the soil that's obviously judaic in origin and ancient in age. Meanwhile you're telling me the ottomans are blameless, or that a people suddenly spring up via merely living somewhere for a few generations? A touch naive. Either we all go back to where we started, or we stop and STFU and sit in place. Either way the Jews stay in Jerusalem and "Palestinian" land.

The post ww2 period had some interesting sales of recent surplus military aircraft all over the world. The Israelis, very inventive.

I've a book somewhere called, The Israeli Airforce it tells fully about the b17s plus every single plane they had to get hold of from all over the world including 109s which were awful due to their different engines from originals.

Good story. My father fought for Israel in 48. Don't think he'd known about this or he'd of shared it with us.

@903lew

11 ай бұрын

Your father was a brave man, may his memory be a blessing.

I never heard this story before! This is just brilliant, would make a great film! Outstanding bravery by all concerned.

@joelspringman523

2 жыл бұрын

Disgusting that the allies didn't openly support and celebrate Israel! Nazis and war criminals were treated infinitely better!

@joelspringman523

2 жыл бұрын

@Doktor Molar There is no such thing as a Palestinian.

@joelspringman523

2 жыл бұрын

@Doktor Molar Hardly.

@batman-cw2hd

2 жыл бұрын

these people are always upto some underhand hidden tricks everwhere they are present.

@comicmania2008

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck to them, if it stopped racist xenophobes killing them.

Spielberg needs to make THIS movie

@johnharris6655

11 ай бұрын

There is a documentary called Above and Beyond, if you want the whole story.

@sassyzelmat

11 ай бұрын

This tape is full of lies, Zionist propaganda.

@user-hs1qq1rs9d

Ай бұрын

Spielberg nakręca filmy tylko SF takie historie co nigdy nie miały miejsca w histori swiata hehehe

Excellent,thank you so much for finally telling this story ! Could you also tell the story of the mirage fighters and how we uptained the schematics of those planes with the(unvolantary )help of the french goverment ?

@jefftodd621

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that I was the only one who had ever heard of that; I was beginning to think that I must have been watching a film as a kid. The plans would have filled a railway carriage and the Israelis managed to get them copied before they were officially destroyed by the French. They had an inside man who would pass them over and destroy "yesterday's" papers; caught on eventually.

@lrw3984

2 жыл бұрын

and how the were used to attack the USS LIBERTY

@sidv4615

2 жыл бұрын

@@jefftodd621 can you tell me more about it? where can i find more info? I tried googling it but couldn't find anything reliable.

@JohnDoe-pv2iu

2 жыл бұрын

@@lrw3984 Good Luck on that request! It seems that everyone is still lying and denying That false flag... From all I can tell, the only people NOT 'in the know', at the time, was the victims of the USS Liberty. Ya'll Take Care, John

@djl5634

2 жыл бұрын

@@lrw3984 well the liberty was a spy ship. And Israel though it was a Egyptian spy ship. Me as an American can forgive that. People can make mistakes in the heat of war. God knows USA has had it's fair share of friendly fire.

Thank you for sharing this incredible and intriguing story! Cheers!

I've seen the Lancaster on TV and a lot of documentaries. However, I have crawled through the B17g, Sentimental Journey. Love her. I grew up in a family of that regularly watched westerns and WW2 movies. Grew up thinking the Curtis P-40s, Corsairs, Mitsubishi A6Ms, Messerschmit 109 were some of the coolest planes on the planet. I didn't know that they went in to fight in the Israeli War of Independence!

Thank you for this recounting of the heroes of Isriel tale.

@trespire

11 ай бұрын

Long live the 69th Hammers.

WOW, what a story, I knew of the Avia and Spitfire deliveries/smugglings from Czechoslovakia, but not of this one, thanks for sharing 👍👍👍!!!

Well thought out and disceted well, stage by stage. Finally the truth came to light Thanks to Wars of the World Especially the flying of Ray Kurtz who previously flew 31 missions during the war.....now thats GUTZ

You neglected to mention the historical significance of "hammer" in the Jewish tradition. In Hebrew, "hammer" is "macabee." Judah the Macabee (Judah the Hammer) led the Jewish revolt against their Ptolemaic Greek rulers (descendants of Alexander the Great) in the 2nd Century BCE. And the lamp oil lasted a lot longer than it should have, or something like that... But, point being, though "hammer" is a cool nickname under any circumstances, for Jews to be given that nickname is a great honor.

@WF2U

2 жыл бұрын

Macabee doesn't mean "hammer" in Hebrew. It's a nickname given to Judah Macabee by using his name that can mean "striking at" or "hitting" in Hebrew.

This is something I did not know about, thank you!

It bears remembering and correcting you that the Muslim people living in what was called "Palestine", were not displaced when Israel was declared to be a partitioned sovereign nation by the United Nations. The UN intended that Israel would be shared among the Jews and Muslims. The incoming government of Israel begged the Muslims to stay and to work together with the Israeli Jews to share and to help make the new nation a success, and that both Jewish and Muslim religious and cultural rights would be respected. However, the Grand Mufti of that area and the Arab League refused to recognize the UN partition which created Israel, declared the new State of Israel to be against the will of Allah, and ordered every Muslim to destroy it in its cradle. Some tried and some did not, but no peaceful Muslim was displaced from Israel or ordered to leave. Those who left did so voluntarily and became the Palestinians. This was all entirely driven by their religious hatred and bigotry. Those who left exiled themselves.

@speedbirdconcorde001

2 жыл бұрын

You're correct! They Arabs left on their own, while 850,000 Jews were expelled from neighboring Arab countries

@Glicksman1

2 жыл бұрын

@@speedbirdconcorde001 History is supposed to be the story of what actually happened, not some political, racist screed to serve a particular agenda. Yes, what I said is what actually happened. The "Palestinians" are not a nation. They're just those formerly Israeli Muslims and their descendants who did not want to live in Israel in peace. Did the millions of neighboring Muslims help them and give them a place to live? No. They preferred and still prefer to use them for hateful political reasons and to let them live in abject poverty and misery, all of which could be avoided if they would make peace with Israel. As good and practical a solution as this would be for everyone, the Arabs will not permit this as it removes a major thorn in Israel's side. Thus, the Palestinians are cruelly used as Arab pawn in this deadly game. With the imprimatur and aid of the Arab nations (except Egypt and Jordan), entirely unprovoked, the Palestinians terrorize and attack Israel, killing innocent civilians. And Israel is he bad guy?

@speedbirdconcorde001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Glicksman1 This is why I support Israel. I've known the truth for some time now, these Pallywood propaganda keeps distorting it and plays the victim card.

@trevormillar1576

Жыл бұрын

Who was it who slaughtered the entire adult population of Deir Yassin then?

@Glicksman1

Жыл бұрын

@@trevormillar1576 So, you're bringing that old shibboleth up again? Unlike the Arabs, who deliberately and cowardly targeted unarmed children in many outlying Kibbutzim, the Israeli forces only attacked those who were fighting them and who represented a threat to Israel. Unfortunately, civilians are often killed and injured in a war. Haven't you heard? First of all, the entire adult population of Deir Yassin was not killed or even injured. Only those Arabs who fired at the Israeli forces were fired upon and, yes, some of them were killed. The Israeli soldiers knew what they were there for and did not target unarmed civilians. Why would they take the time and energy to do that when it was unnecessary, had no strategic object, was inhumane, and would create terrible publicity for Israel in a war in which the rest of the world's opinion and support was so important? Secondly, your willingness to ignorantly repeat that lie which was created as Arab propaganda indicates that truth means little to you. No, the Arabs did not get to push all of the Jewish men, women and children into the sea. Such a shame, right? Notwithstanding the Arab fable that you repeat, in war, every side commits acts that in retrospect are seen as heinous, and every side accuses the other side of atrocities, tending to greatly exaggerate how horribly the other side has behaved. This is the nature of war, always has been, and always will be. Did the Arab nations combine to destroy Israel immediately after the United Nations voted to for its right to be a nation? Yes. Did Israel have to fight a defensive War of Independence to prevent being destroyed by the Arab nations? Yes. Was the Israeli forces' attack on Deir Yassin a battle in Israel's' War of Independence? Yes. Did the Israeli's deem it necessary to do so in the defense of Israel? Yes. Was it a battle in a war against Israel that the Arabs stared in order to destroy Israel? Yes. Did what happened there result in a terrible loss of life as takes place in all battles in all wars? Yes? Did the Arbs exaggerate what happened there for political reasons?? Yes. Are you doing the same now? Yes. So, what is you F'ing point?

This channel is a treasure trove of amazing storytelling

The Czech Messerschmitt were pure crap, but it was all they had until a few Spits and Mustangs were acquired.

Richard Nixon; "I'm told you have the best army in the world." Moishe Dayan; "I don't know. We've only ever fought arabs."

@yoamal1187

Жыл бұрын

When did he say that? Lowkey cool quote

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

Very good video. I never knew about this story. Unsung heroes that contributed to the defense of Israel, Am Israel Chai!

@cdc3

2 жыл бұрын

Am Israel chai indeed! In the mid 70's my parents were returning to the USofA from their residence in Jerusalem as required for non-Jewish residents each year. They took a detour through Rome to take in the sights and found themselves at the "Judea Capta" triumphal Arch of Titus. On it there was a little sticky note in Hebrew which read "Am Israel chai". 2000 years and ancient Rome is no more. Yet the people of Israel are still here! God does not break His promises...

@alisonhilll4317

2 жыл бұрын

BDS Israel.

@rafanifischer3152

2 жыл бұрын

@@alisonhilll4317 That's so yesterday.

@tilulenshpigel8396

2 жыл бұрын

@@alisonhilll4317 Dear Alison Hilll, Thank you for demonstrating the ultimate prove that one must never underestimate human stupidity.

@trespire

11 ай бұрын

@@cdc3 I've stood by that arch. Seen the bass releife carving through the fence, of Roman solders carrying off our Menora. The Romans are dust, we are still here. Felt good.

May God bless the men who helped.

Up until about 20-25 years ago, Charlie Winter's name still came up around Miami's old "corrosion corner" haunts.

@patrickshaw8595

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Knew him well.

Both the B-17 and the B-24 had their advantages and disadvantages! A lot of crews, especially the pilots and co-pilots hated the B-24 due to a stability problem which made their legs "feel like a gorilla beat on them" due to constantly having to do rudder corrections. This also made their formations a bit "looser"! Despite the B-17 being "an airplane design generation"older, crews like it for its inherent stability and also its ability to take damage (more damage than the B-24!) and still get the crew home... Now, yes the B-24 had longer range, and often could carry a bigger bomb load to the same target... as I noted above, it has an advantage of being a newer generation, kinda comparing a F-80's dogfighting capability to a F-86! (Or a P-40 to a P-51, F-4 Phantom to a F-15 Eagle, etc. >added in edit

Thanks for this 👍✈️

thank you for sharing detailed video

@robertlewis1965

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there! I didn't share it , but noticed you have a good name , like 5 or 6 others I've run across . Be careful , take good care of yourself , live to be 100 !

Thanks for this video, did not know the story behind the Israeli B17's prior to this. However, one minor correction - The Arabs were not displaced upon the creation of the state of Israel. The founding charter stated that all would be equal as Israeli citizens irrespective of race or religion if they were already resident. The large scale exodus of Arabs was called for by the 5 invading Arab armies who wanted them to get out of the way so they could engage the Israelis and they were told they could go back to their homes once victory was complete. It didn't quite work out that way. In his memoirs, Syrian President Haled al Azm stated, "Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our calls for them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return" Meanwhile, the Jordanian Army had taken Judea and Samaria (Which they renamed 'The West Bank') and East Jerusalem, where they remained after the 1949 ceasefire until the Israelis took those territories back in the 1967 six day war. They carried out ethnic cleansing of those areas with Jews having to either evacuate to Israel or face execution.

@paulog8813

11 ай бұрын

The equal amount of displaced Palestinian following the words of the Arab Leaders and the Mufti of Jerusalem, in order to leave their homes while the Arab armies would drive the Jews to the sea for then return home, were expels from the Arabs countries with no more than the clothes they were wearing.

@imoneixusa9742

11 ай бұрын

😂 very Israeli point of view. Britain took the land that was Ottoman and filed with Arab Palestinians and the British brought Jewish settlers that them pushed out the original inhabitants.

@imoneixusa9742

11 ай бұрын

Next you're going to say that the USA didn't push the natives of their land

@robertoroberto9798

11 ай бұрын

@@imoneixusa9742What? The British weren’t on either side. The Jews smuggled themselves into the Mandate of Palestine. They weren’t nice to them too. Why do you think the King David Hotel bombing happened?

Riveting video. From smuggling the aircraft out of US in 1948 to defend its territory to being the best in Military weaponries in 21st century, Israeli’s resilience amazes me.

@alexdunphy3716

2 жыл бұрын

Breh they just steal western tech. Then they sell half of it to china lol.

@joelspringman523

2 жыл бұрын

It's shameful that the U.S. was not a great friend of Israel!

@user-uz7dm6qn3y

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelspringman523 At the time, there were around 600,000 Jews in Israel, surrounded by 50 million Arabs with most of the world's oil. The US State Department was 100% against American recognition of the Jewish state. Truman (facing the 1948 elections against Republican New York's Dewey) overruled it. The War Department confirmed that the Jews wouldn't last more than two weeks anyways, so it was a win-win solution. In the end, the Jews surprised everyone. The US embargo lasted into the '60s.

@joelspringman523

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-uz7dm6qn3y Disgusting! Truman was a horrible person, anyway. Not just anti-Israel, but anti-America, too.

@jimjamjoeyjoejoe

2 жыл бұрын

You misspelled soulless evil as "resilience". Why anyone would ever trust the people of this nation when they have gone so far as to bomb a US ship, steal US nuclear fissile material and sell military tech to one of the US's biggest geopolitical rivals is beyond me.

Also, it was not that risky to fly to the Azores did. They had a radio station and all you needed was a directional antenna and you could find it in any weather and at night at altitude just by getting within 300 miles .

@JFDA5458

11 ай бұрын

No, but the approach into a mountain surrounded airfield with low cloud cover in probably bad weather is risky.

I watched them land across the street from us at the Air National Guard base in Hayward,California as a kid.One can never mistake their sound once one hears it.

We also smuggled 5 ships(who were paid of)from sherburg France in 67 It's amazing that i havent heard of that,even though I'm quite knowledgeable about my country's history

@trespire

11 ай бұрын

לפני הרבה שנים יצא לי לקרוא עם מבצע הטסת המפציצים בספריה קטנה שהיה בבסיס בו שירתתי. עם שלושת המפציצים הקמו את טייסת הפטישים האגדית. מבצע שלא יאומן נגד כל הסיכויים

@davidr.1135

11 ай бұрын

Daniel, correct, after the arms embargo by de Gaulle, the paid ships got to Israel in a clandestine operation on Dec 25, 1969. Charlot was not amused. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherbourg_Project

@stephanedajtlich

11 ай бұрын

Cherbourg

Ray Kurtz...total badass..!!

That bombing run on delivery is a video game move. 😂👍

@trespire

11 ай бұрын

This was no game, it was a desperate move to save a nation. These guys were, and still are legends.

Miami has been blessed with Historic Aviation from the its beginnings. Glenn Curtiss home in Miami Springs & his Aviation School in neighboring Hialeah, Fla. Pretty damned clever for Israel , you get resourceful when your small & in peril.

Great Story! Thanks

The Israelis are Legend for thinking about something and getting it done , you just have to adrire them..this was great.

@davidhollenshead4892

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you are a Palestinian or Jew who had been living in Palestine. As both were run off their land, part of the story that no one mentions...

@dissent9959

11 ай бұрын

@@davidhollenshead4892Except to pause, and laugh at them.

@robertoroberto9798

11 ай бұрын

@@davidhollenshead4892They voluntarily left.

My father flew 35 missions over Europe as a waist gunner in a B17.

Brilliant!!!

Have never heard of this story if the crestion of Israel. Clever and determined people.

Love this channel

I would watch a movie based on this story

Spielberg needs to make a movie!!!!!!!

Countries who have good artillery and military tactics have been training for hundreds if not thousands of years if we look at roman empire they had many unique military and artillery tactics and of course tactics play a crucial role in a army

@Triggernlfrl

2 жыл бұрын

Country's just excis for only a few years. History of only wars is a lie to feed the system zombies....

Well the B17 just looked cool!

I like this. The arms embargo seems to be a wish from the western leaders that the neighbouring nations would finish the job the Holocaust started, without them getting their hands dirty. No matter what you think of Israel today that kind of genocide-by-inaction, as has been repeated many times since, was and is worth fighting against.

@anon-iraq2655

2 жыл бұрын

Arms embargo was mainly against atabs while israel "smuggled" all kind of weapons including whole bombers

@user-uz7dm6qn3y

2 жыл бұрын

@@anon-iraq2655 BS, The Arab Legion was supplied and lead by the British. They also had all the money in the world to circumvent any embargo, just like they and Iran do today.

@user-uz7dm6qn3y

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The US War Department estimated that the Jews wouldn't last more than two weeks.

@anon-iraq2655

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-uz7dm6qn3y Britain never supplied arabs with good weapons even before the arms embargo because they feared an arab rebellion after the arms embargo of 1948 arab armies had to resort to radical measures like buying de-militarized tankettes and making them somewhat fight worthy in chop shops

@anon-iraq2655

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-uz7dm6qn3y and there was no money, arab countries were and still are developing, egypt was living off exporting cotton products

Thank you.

I dunno. I like the poetry of using former enemy vehicles if theyre decent enough. A sort of "touche".

Today I had business in my local AAA auto insurance location. While I was there, I looked through the international travel brochures for the different countries and found One listing "Jerusalem" and "Tel Aviv" on it. It was titled "Palestine", a non-existent country. Been a loyal customer all of my life. Changing companies this coming week...

@floydlooney6837

2 жыл бұрын

If that brochure was from before 1948, it's okay

@cdc3

2 жыл бұрын

@@floydlooney6837 Quite true in one sense. "Palestine" has never been a sovereign country, not under the Romans, not under the British, not EVER. Yet if you were speaking of "Palestinians" before 1948, you were speaking of the Jewish population in the British mandate governing the area at the time, not "Arabs" who were simply "Arabs" back then...

@tilulenshpigel8396

2 жыл бұрын

@@cdc3 So true.,

It was the very first HammerTime!

I wonder how the Soviets allowed the Czechs to do all this, seeing as the USSR was trying to get the Arab nations on their side and split from the USA/UK/French control...

@Thermopylae2007

2 жыл бұрын

The Soviets took time consolidating their power in Eastern Europe after the war, allowing a facade of political parties, convincing many that life would carry on as before while the Party was already blacklisting them for ostracization or future persecution. With the glut of weapons post war and corruption among officials it might not be that outlandish that the Israelis managed some successful purchases.

@grahammiddleton74

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thermopylae2007 excellent insight, thank you - in fact this could be another topic in itself......Thanks again !

@Thermopylae2007

2 жыл бұрын

@@grahammiddleton74 I would think that the former Yugoslavia would have provided an interesting share of weaponry from Austro-Hungarian, German captures and local production that included both Western and Soviet modeled weaponry. Don't know whether much of it ended up in Israel though.

@dpt6849

2 жыл бұрын

czechs got punished with prague uprising

@scottweisel3640

11 ай бұрын

Stalin supported the independence of Israel as he thought it diminished British prestige in the Middle East. It is one of the supreme ironies that the USSR recognized the State of Israel.

Hank Greenspan was the owner & editor of the Las Vegas Sun newspaper for many years. I went to elementary school with his daughter Jane. Very well known family in Vegas.

Thank you , I've never heard of this one . I dont remember seeing any reference to it in my copy of " THE SECRET WAR AGAINST THE JEWS " ( John Loftus & Mark Aarons) . Lets see more of this great stuff!!!

Isreal will never cease to fascinate me...

@eekay5710

10 ай бұрын

It's not Israel as a nation, but the faithfulness of God’s promises to their forefathers.

Every time I hear the name Goldberg I think of the wrestler screaming and yelling in the cockpit

Great as always

Amazing

Excellent and very informative report, loved this video

Amazing video....Thanks very much......Shoe🇺🇸

C 47 WERE USED DURING BERLIN EMBARGO. SOME WERE SOLD TO ISRAEL FOR 1 DOLLAR APIECE. 🌹

Incredible story. Keep cleaning!!

The pictures of the "BF-109" were actually FW-190.

@Kickback-dm7zt

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that but his pronunciation of junkers is WRONG. while there is a "j" in the name when it's spoken the j is silent so it's actually pronounced "yunkkers"

@stuartwald2395

2 жыл бұрын

In an ironic twist, Israeli pilots who were RAF veterans would fly their ME-109 variants against Egyptian Spitfires, some of whom were flown by Nazi veterans of the Luftwaffe.

@michaelcorbidge7914

2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartwald2395 the story just gets better.

Great

Pops was a B 17 crew member, bombed Germany about late 43 or early 44? to end. He maned the single 50 in the top shield and did tech stuff with the coms.

I'd like to know what happened to all 4 B-17s.

Great history, but I would cite one error. At 2:37 you mention "many Palestinians" when referring to the Arab population. Arabs weren't reinvented as "Palestinians" until the mid-sixties.

@mhpjii

2 жыл бұрын

The 1960's rewrite of history paid for by the Arab Muslim oil moguls and their American blueblood Bushie friends fails to mention that until 1948 and the creation of the State of Israel _anyone,_ Jews included, who resided in that portion of the Middle East was referred to as Palestinian.

@malcontender6319

2 жыл бұрын

Vile *and* hypocritically genocidal.

@bobkrohn8053

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always wondered about that. What is the critical difference between Palestine vs Judea.

@user-uz7dm6qn3y

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobkrohn8053 "Palestine" is the occupation name of Judea.

Why is a B-24 (twin vertical stabilizers) shown in midst of section on moving B-17s?

@SweetLou0523

2 жыл бұрын

Because at that time he was talking about the pilot recruit that had flown b24s during the war. He was the one moved to co pilot and replaced by the drunken colonel.

Yes. God bless Israel a country that respects ALL people's rights.

Spielberg should make a movie..."Bomb Chuckers."

Most Americans today don't realize the extent of casual racism prevalent in America until the 1960s. When Israel became a nation, the US President's Mother in Law - who considered her daughter to have "married beneath herself" when she married Truman - was visiting and was upstairs, and wouldn't allow the new Israeli Ambassador - who might have been Jewish - in "her" house. Truman met him out on the porch, and arranged to send a congratulatory telegram recognizing Israel, a significant accomplishment for the new nation.

@Inkling777

11 ай бұрын

Ah yes, Truman's mother-in-law was a real something. I've heard that she told her daughter that Truman would never amount to anything and continued to do so when he was president of the U.S. and arguably the most powerful man in the world.

@trevorn9381

11 ай бұрын

@@Inkling777 She was an admirer of General MacArthur and was not happy when Truman fired him.

Junkers is pronounced Yunkers. That's just first year high school German.

@robertgiles9124

2 жыл бұрын

The Brits love to mangle foreign words. It's like a fetish.

nice story.

Shalom .

A good story.

Crashed Spitfire exists. Israel: "-Free Plane."

GERMAN MECHANICS WORKED AND WE PART OF FLIGHT CREW. JUST IN CASE C-47 WERE SABOTAGED.

What happened to the fourth B-17 that got impounded en route I wonder?

@yoamal1187

Жыл бұрын

Probably flew for a bit under different people, then scrapped like most of the B-17's

In one of the grandest underestimations of the 20th century, when the UN voted for partition in 1948, the expectation was that the surrounding Arab countries would annihilate the Jews in short order. The UN and the Western nations did everything they could to ensure that the Israelis were under armed and under supplied. What they did not foresee was the Israeli talent for improvisation. What most people do not quite understand is that the issues between Israel and the surrounding Arab countries is entirely a European creation. It was the Romans who drove the Jews from their homeland, it was the Europeans as a whole who created social and economic conditions for the Jews that only a race of geniuses could have survived, it was the Germans who attempted to exterminate them and it was the British and the French who both thwarted the nationalistic aspirations of the Arabs and who simultaneously betrayed the Israeli Jews during the 1948 war. Europe deserved every consequence it ever got out of all of that.

I remeber seeing them flying as water bombers as a child in the PNW foothills.

There were better bombers than the B-17? No bomber could withstand the punishment the B-17 could take and still bring its crews home. Period.

@kirbyculp3449

2 жыл бұрын

Those who bomb and fly away, live to bomb another day.

Usaf and royal air Force had abounded b24 bomber aircraft in chakeri air field in kanpur uttar pradesh in 1945-46. After independence indian air force needed these aircraft but problem was they were badly damaged by royal air Force. More than 450 aircraft were grounded. In 1949-50 indian air force was searching bomber aircraft and these abounded aircraft were chosen to raise squadran. It was HAL who selected 48 aircraft and refurbished these aircraft with scavenging parts from other aircraft. Two squadron raised in indian air force. My father was in that squadron. It is was very interesting true story. After retirement 4 aircraft were kept as show piece. One in indian air force, one for USA Canada and Britain. You must make a video on these issue. 😊😊

Deep Respect for ISRAEL. They have proven Time and time again... They Excel at USING THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES in the best possible way!!! Shalom!

@jackharle1251

11 ай бұрын

Because they are scum

@gregsbiplays9899

11 ай бұрын

USS Liberty

@saved217

11 ай бұрын

Doesn't hurt, that's she's Gods chosen.

@MehWhatever99

11 ай бұрын

@@gregsbiplays9899what other friendly fire incidents do you have conspiracy theories about?

Fortunately for Israel the Egyptian army’s performance was pitiful

Great Video. Always loved the history of the Israeli military

@josephtein3835

10 ай бұрын

Does that history of the Israeli military that you love include them driving Palestinians out of their homes, blowing up their villages??

@blobert62

10 ай бұрын

@@josephtein3835 If that is how you feel then might I ask why you clicked on this video? It wouldn’t happen to be to start drama and arguments would it?

@josephtein3835

10 ай бұрын

@@blobert62 No, I watched the video because I'm very interested in Israeli history. You didn't answer my question, by the way.

@josephtein3835

10 ай бұрын

@@blobert62 Look up the history of what happened in Lydda (Lod, nowadays) IN 1948 ... Wikipedia has a good summary.

@blobert62

10 ай бұрын

@@josephtein3835 Alright I’ll answer your question. The answer is no. Someone has to be realistic though and say that yeah this stuff happens. It’s not fun to talk about and I don’t have to agree with it but that doesn’t ignore the fact that people do bad things. Every single side of every single conflict has done something they shouldn’t have at one point or another. As for your second comment, what I said still stands. People do bad things. This isn’t new. It’s terrible that it happened and that it continues to happen but it always will. I really don’t know what else you want to hear

True, the Lancaster and B-24 could carry bigger bomb loads. But the B-17 was an older design. 4 years older than the B-24, and 7 years older than the Lancaster. And, the Lancaster was based on a twin-engine design that sucked, the Manchester. The Lanc had a smaller crew, no belly protection and they flew primarily at night.

Fantastic video

Yeah, History Channel had this years ago! They did the say with German ME109's!

They ssaid they had to fly from Miami to Puerto Rico but on the map they showed from Burbank California. Which is right?

This era the ISRAELI AIR FORCE is among or even the best in the world. With all its experience in strategies and tactics in air battles as well as its modernized Air Assets. And With the help of GOD ALMIGHTY, NEVER AGAIN will the State of Israel 🇮🇱 be messed around by any rouge states. From brother and sisters in the 🇵🇭.

Thanks for a bit of not well known history.