Lad did not sugar coat at all! 😂

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks yeah we are all about transparency. So potential candidates know what they are in for

@LARPCapital

Жыл бұрын

​@@Webdrill gotta mitigate that high turn over somehow

@FreshStartFitForFaith

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!! excellent video!

@conordunne8379

Жыл бұрын

is sean olvier still working fifo

@marvelousondatrack8647

Ай бұрын

​@@LARPCapital💯💯

My biggest advice is walk in with thick skin, good attitude, and a sense of humor. Don’t expect to get along with everyone, but at least make it tolerable. Making jokes, checking in your co workers if they need water, and staying ahead of the game goes a long way.

@trentfrompunchbowl

6 ай бұрын

Over 50 percent are ex or current drug addicts

I have so much respect for these men... This is what they do to put a roof over their loved ones heads, shitting in a bag and working hard.... man...made me almost cry

The honesty makes me wanna go and test myself

@marvelousondatrack8647

Ай бұрын

I do this job, and I will not recommend it to anybody lol. Unless you are just trying to get into the door of fifo Mining.

@ibringtherain7669

28 күн бұрын

@@marvelousondatrack8647no experience from NZ how do I get in? I’m keen to do 12rounds with this beast Day in Day out. Couldn’t be worst off than where I’m currently at now with the Gangs and shootings out here in South Auckland NZ.

I got my start in fifo 20 years ago as a drillers offsider, back then it was the easiest way to get into the industry with no experience, getting paid only for the meters we drilled, sleeping in a swag, getting yelled at by the driller, to this day I have a bad reaction if someone toots at me in traffic 😆 Went on to work in offshore drilling and now being paid for my skill level and knowledge in the industry. Like the man says if your prepared to stick it out and do the hard yards it can be rewarding.

Totally different world from an office worker like me, so i learnt something. I do wish all recruitment videos were as honest as this one. :)

Love this video. When my family or friends need an understanding of what i do, i send them this. Its very thorough and well done

men built everything in the world. mad respect

I was at the Granites gold mine in the NT doing this a few years back for a year or so and this video is EXACTLY what it’s like for anyone interested. Can be very rewarding but very very tough definitely not for the faint hearted. I was 35 when I was up there and got a few records but that’s why I left, I pulled 11000m of rods in 7 days and 1900m in one shift, 950m out changed the bit threw 950m in only for the driller to smoke that bit and I had to pull them again and throw them back in. I was known for doing all of the big rod pulls because the young guys couldn’t keep up but that’s what done it for me I felt I was being used in the end going from rig to rig it sucked. I started drilling towards the end but having so many deep holes I was continuously pulling rods day in day out. It’s seriously hard work pulling so many rods haha 10/10 for the video guys you told it EXACTLY how it is.

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your story Clint. These days there is some automation around rod running to support the Offsider and Driller in deep holes.

@BigSharmo

2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate just a question. I'm going to get into drilling start of next year. Wondering if you did both underground and exploration and what the pros and cons are to both? I want to do exploration so I can see the country and I just love the outdoors but just want to see your thoughts on both. Cheers mate

@jozz6169

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigSharmo odds are you'll be surface mining and get exploration every now and then.

@MikeRotch23

Жыл бұрын

I still work there… a lot of changes since the COVID lockdown.

@BlackenedGold

Жыл бұрын

I hope your living a more relaxed life now mate. Cheers for your input.

What a great summary Shaun/Webdrill - Lot of insight shared there - Thanks for posting this as I've often wondered - Genuinely physically and mentally challenging - And long days it would seem - Reckon anyone who sticks this gig can be very proud of themselves

Perfect video thanks for putting this out. I can tell when this dude says its hard then it must be pretty hard and that helps because saves a surprise shock for new labourers planning to go there

Explained very well by this lad.

Absolutely spot on!!!

most accurate information well done

Im looking into getting into this industry. This is a great no bullsh1t explanation, thank you. :)

Thank you so much for the very informative content. You have a tough mind. And all the best out there

Thanks for this video. I have been applying for these jobs with no luck yet. I appreciate the honesty and not sugar coating the job at all.

@speaktruth5581

Ай бұрын

How did you go? I’m in the same boat

I’m on a diamond drilling mob, drilling for iron ore. Best decision I’ve ever made. Just make sure you have strong communication with family and partner and you’re all sweet.

I’ve been underground as an apprentice and loved it! Always thought diamond drilling was an interesting job so I thought I put my self out in there and started applying for jobs! Your videos have helped me see what I will get up to and I can’t wait! 🤩

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the amazing feedback!

@tanishakauvai8919

Жыл бұрын

Are you still at the job ?

@huntster4000

Жыл бұрын

How did you go brother ?

@trentfrompunchbowl

18 күн бұрын

If you work with a company that does both underground and surface. Easiest way to become a driller underground. Then go to surface. My mate had no industry experience and became an underground trainee driller after 3 months. Then running an underground rig after 8 months. Came to surface they could demote him down a level. He drilled on surface good god did he wreck shite lol.

its hard sometimes but this job is a big adventure and i love it :D

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear 👍🏼

Cool video mate👍 sounds like real talk! Appreciate it...

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hope! If you have any further questions feel free to ask our team

Great video I think I'm ready for it now! Thanks guys I can start applying 🤗

This is the field im working towards been single i wont be missed lol its cool you saying you had no idea at first until you started working thats a really awesome insight i look forward to my first day an getting a career going as im in it for the long term .thank you for your insight .

This is awesome. Thanks for the insight. Really wanted to know about the income when starting. Also, I was thinking about doing this but I did hear it’s a young guys job too. Glad to see you doing it.

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Feel free to contact our HR Dept and or look out on Seek for job opportunities

@AJ-to7ei

2 жыл бұрын

Please I want learn it and how do I get enrolled

@danielwells774

Жыл бұрын

@@Webdrill Have you guys ever hired backpackers or anyone on a working holiday visa?

@tompaton7996

Жыл бұрын

bout $35 an hour

@thefamousdjx

4 ай бұрын

@@tompaton7996 Really? no ways

I’m starting as an offsider,this is a motivation for me and have prepared me for the work ahead of me

@Blkiie

7 ай бұрын

Hey buddy, hope your journey as an offsider is going well. I too I'm thinking on embarking on this journey. Is there anything you could share with me?

@IsaacTui

26 күн бұрын

​@@Blkiie GO for an underground driller offsider

@trentfrompunchbowl

18 күн бұрын

Do a year as an offsider and then apply to do blasthole drilling. You can spend years busting your guts to become a trainee and it's all in the supervisors hands. If they don't like you, many good lads spend years as offsiders teaching other lads who are the supervisors mates then they get put to trainee over the dudes who work 😂

Great video, I'm on surface diamond drilling as an offsider, for a geotech company. This has given me some great insight for when I choose to head underground.

@jordenmarshall4113

11 ай бұрын

You’re mad to go from surface to underground haha

@trentfrompunchbowl

6 ай бұрын

A surface trainee is the equivalent to an underground senior driller supervisor

This was really helpful. Need more like it

This bloke has the right attitude, he will go places, 👍👍

@trentfrompunchbowl

6 ай бұрын

Sad truth is bud if you work hard they keep you working hard. We had 7 of us only 3 of us have all. Ended up all getting out up to trainee anyway

@thefamousdjx

4 ай бұрын

@@trentfrompunchbowl A mate was stuck for years as drilling labourer, can take a while to move up but he eventually did.

@trentfrompunchbowl

4 ай бұрын

@@thefamousdjx better off just going blast hole operator. Better pay and your body isn't smoked from the labour

@murderinhollywood7931

3 ай бұрын

@@trentfrompunchbowlwhat kind of schooling do you need for that

@trentfrompunchbowl

3 ай бұрын

@@murderinhollywood7931 just start as a bench hand for a drill and blast company or just apply for blast hole drillers jobs. If you have some machinery background you may get a start. And do your standard 11 and other mining induction tickets

Grateful to have found this video and comments. The thought of $420 a day 2:1 had me considering a move across to Perth for a position. Supervisor candidly explained dirty and dusty conditions that would require respirator use and that the last four hires lasted 3 days. Just having heard that I was about to not proceed. Fortunately seeing this confirmed it's not for me.

@kinkkong5479

Жыл бұрын

I lasted 1 day. Could barely walk the next.

@warner72

Жыл бұрын

@@kinkkong5479 Can you please give me brief description of your experience?

@trellgold6998

Жыл бұрын

Good on you mate for admitting it's not for you 👍🏽

@ScubaShorts

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@thefamousdjx

4 ай бұрын

@@kinkkong5479 😂😂

Wow, great honest video. Please get me over there ASAP.

Damn hard work when I was offsiding in CSA mine. Cobar. But I loved every minute of it. Definitely will take you out of your comfort zone 💪💪

That was so informative. I am so keen for a drillers job. Have been looking into it for a while. Im a fifo grounds person but want to get into drilling and underground. Looks awesome. I dont think if you had a family like this guy you would stick with it very long, luckily im single. Been applying but no bites so far. Just got to keep trying.

@Webdrill

Жыл бұрын

Hey Benny thanks for the feedback. If you are interested drop your cv at hr@webdrill.com.au

@callkthulu

Жыл бұрын

@@Webdrill Awesome.....Cheers for that. Will do that definitely

@huntster4000

Жыл бұрын

@@callkthulu Score a job bro?

@trentfrompunchbowl

6 ай бұрын

Do a year offsiding man and go to blast hole drilling. Lot easier and better coin and easier rosters

Thanks for the insight just got a job as an offsider start in 2 weeks nervous but excited and your right in the long run money will be better and what I’m not spending at home I will be sav in g while out on site. Good video

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

All the best 👍🏼

@uncletom06

2 жыл бұрын

How is your job? Liking it?

@theswinkers9611

2 жыл бұрын

@@uncletom06 killing it mate , been good

@Tommy-wr2bu

2 жыл бұрын

Hey man just wanted to check in with you and see how things are going

@TheSketchyswag

2 жыл бұрын

How's it going mate? Been thinking about doing this

After watching this and coming from an Army background.. I'm liking this type of work.

You are an amazing man bri🙏

Wow, this is a really well made video about FIFO work.

I'm headed to BC at 24 years old to start exploration diamond drilling, this video is great although ill be on surface i'm sure there will be similar conditions that will apply. Thanks for the informative video, these are hard working mother f&*%^ers im proud to join men like this!

Fantastic. I was underground in Kambalda. Mining has changed a huge amount since 1980. Our eldest Son went underground ASAP within legal limits. Today he is very well known and respected within the Mining Industry.

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Neville.

I just got a nipper job. Fly to my first time on mine site in two weeks. Super nervous. I think I can do it. I'm a tradesman and have worked tough conditions. I hope I have the grit. Great video. I like the dark I like routine and habits being repeated everyday. I don't like early mornings. I hope I go alright and run with it

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome sounds like you would be a great fit! All the best for your first swing.

@valiantv2897

Жыл бұрын

how are you getting on Lewis

@lewiscraw8294

Жыл бұрын

@@valiantv2897 it's 4am as I write this. About to go in for another day. Probably be on the truck all day today which is what I'm mostly doing atm. Helped service crew yesterday though. It's a developing mine but it's planned to be big which seems to be a good mine to start on cause you get to try different jobs and move around a bit more. Think I'll stick it out for the long haul. I just gotta keep my tag clipped to my hard hat so it hits me in the face! Lol

@valiantv2897

Жыл бұрын

@@lewiscraw8294 You have a great attitude, im sure you will go far, thanks for the reply

@ronkumar1093

Ай бұрын

@@lewiscraw8294 Still going good?

Brilliant video, thanks for sharing the experience elaborately

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍🏼

Had a green offsider ask me about lunch breaks, my response was “when you get 30 seconds to shove something down ya gob”

@mrfish9997

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't the mines stricked on that stuff

@daleykopae688

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrfish9997 not on a drill rig, you don’t get breaks. You eat when you have sorted everything out and have a bit of downtime between runs. Which isn’t much.

@mrfish9997

2 жыл бұрын

Well shit cheers for 2nding it think I might give drilling a miss, and try truck driving

@nicktubara

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrfish9997 while it may suck that you don't get a designated lunch break, though in honesty i work all day driving a truck doing deliveries back to back and when youre flat out just in and out of the truck going to customers' premises you are sooooo busy you dont even get to scratch your arse. If there's a moment in between where i can have my lunch ill take what i can get and provided you're not fussy about when you wanna eat your lunch when you do find a moment to eat you just take a quick few bites and you get on with it. If it helps, having a decent breakie prior to work can prevent you from getting real hungry. It would be real pity you would use lunch breaks as a factor in not wanting to pursue working in driller, if you value eating so much, take up being a chef.

@mrfish9997

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicktubara I'm a truck driver too, just not on the mines, and u don't need to stop to eat cos u can eat and drive, but when your on the tool mate u need a break through out the day

Meters makes money! Good to see old mate not quiet about the tough parts of the job.

Great video thanks

change the shifts to 3 x 8 hrs or put another person on each shift to lighten the load and they wont keep needing to constantly replace workers. adapt a bit.

Down to earth explanation 👍

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@blakelong5544

3 жыл бұрын

Pun intended?

If you want some money and don't have any tickets your going to work bloody hard for it!

Excellent!!

I miss it but hate it at the same time. If your a hard worker then you’ll love getting stuck in and pushing yourself. On the other hand’ if you have a young family then you will know my pain.

Good video, truth is the truth

I’m an interested in mining after school for a few years would driller offsides fund me the most money as a entry level job in the mines or is there something else?

Just started with webdrill . It's a great team and yeh the work is hard . But it is well worth it at the end of the day . The crew I'm with are a bunch of top blokes . Love it!!

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome Dylan 🙏🏼 We look forward to catching up with you at the next HQ bbq

@bushy9254

3 жыл бұрын

@@Webdrill definitely can't wait . Keep up the good work guys it's a pleasure working for such a great company 🤙✌️🙂

@benwilliams3539

Жыл бұрын

hows it going after a year?

@tonybee2684

Жыл бұрын

Hows it going for you a year on?

@johnnycobos9950

Жыл бұрын

How is it after one year?

I know I'm late but do you guys sponsor foreign nationals looking to get into the mines and what are the requirements if so?

great video!

It’s who you know , not what you know.

Just applied for a few jobs as a driller offsider decided i want to leave the railway after 7 years started as a track worker/bridgey ended up as a Personel Protection officer and vehicle control Officer running track gangs and pretty full on jobs with 130-200 people on a track closuere over a weekend

Been consuming so much content in regards to mining and this video was perfect. I have my standsrd 11 booked and coal boards medical. Can’t wait!

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped prepare you

@faka1997

2 жыл бұрын

How much it cost the standard 11? And which is the Things I need to be able to do this job??

Hi , thanks for the video . im a Chinese female , and worked in the electronic industry as a seletive soldering operator, i can definitely lift up to 20 kg . I saw the pay rate very nice , is there a chance i can get a job in the WA mining field? I dont mind hard work and fly in and out

Pretty much exactly what its like, hard job

I am an offsider in underground gold minning in Indonesia, yes there's so many challenges as an offsider... Lot strength and hardwork to do,especially work with jumbo or maxxijet.... If there's an opportunity to work abroad in Australia I would love to do it.

@YaflamingGalah

10 ай бұрын

no australia is full stay away

@user-bn1gq3uw1e

9 ай бұрын

@@YaflamingGalahgrub

@Blkiie

7 ай бұрын

@YaflamingGalah racist much? Australia is actually in need of mine workers you weirdo.

@IsaacTui

Ай бұрын

​@@YaflamingGalah😂😂😂

Good video said it how it was 👍

Young mans game.

Great video thanks for that. I'm currently looking into driller offsider roles for when I get back into perth . Quick question im a type 1 diabetic will this be a barrier to entry. I have been working physical laboring jobs ( shearing, farming and more for the passed 9 years with little to no issues with my health ?

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, thanks for watching! Sounds like you would be a great fit! Reach out to the team, there are some opportunities in the new year hr@webdrill.com.au

@SidicArts

4 ай бұрын

Hey mate how’d you end up going? I’m the same boat and looking to get into fifo

Great video mate

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Dream job. Cant wait to relocate to wa on 19th july

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Exciting times 👏🏼

@keenynman34

2 жыл бұрын

Hows it I start Sept 9th in canada

@goransvraka3171

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you need keep changing the drill?

i do gas drainage drilling underground similar in ways to this and yeah its tough and hard

I'm moving back to my home city Perth soon from the USA. Retail is a nightmare and I plan on working in some sort of mine in Australia, hopefully 2:1 roster. I don't know where to apply for a company but I'll be 19 when I'm back next year. What's the likelihood of getting this type of job? I want to work a job like this because I want my abilities tested, I want to be pushed to my physical and mental limits to make myself disciplined, especially like this bloke in the video

@jed_w

Жыл бұрын

Don't go diamond drilling, become a nipper instead alot more growth with being a nipper for jumbos underground. Nipper then service crew after that charge up and bogger. Way more different avenues then diamond drilling

Have been Off-Siding and just started to train on the levers in New Zealand. Definitely want to get over to Australia and get involved over there. Is your company hiring?

@Webdrill

Жыл бұрын

Always - apply through our websites careers section

Good additude and staunch work ethic 👊👊👊

I know everyone says you need to be fit to be a drillers offsider but I really wonder what/how the measure is to know if you can make the grade? eg how many push ups at once or lifting ?? number of kg for how long at once? or?? Sorry if it seems like a dumb question but I know everyone's idea of fit is different. I have worked kitchen which could be more physically demanding than some people realise (carrying 2x20kg bags of flour on stairs 12 hour day in a 40 degree kitchen kneeding dough etc) but I am not sure I would be the level of fitness they need given everyone talks about how hard core it is fitness wise (I certainly couldn't carry 40 kg for a 12 hour long day without breaking my back).

@thefamousdjx

4 ай бұрын

I doubt its too heavy to a point you cant lift it. I think its the constant non stop lifting that can get to you. Like all hard labour jobs you'll be sore for a few days as your muscles adjust

Good old red October, I drilled some raisebore holes there

I'm a helper in AZ, running pq on a 230 10ft tubes y'all got soft hands bRotHer

Man i hope this guy stuck it out!

Nice job not sugar coating it to much.

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wooly

@chrisreed479

3 жыл бұрын

@@Webdrill fill the drillers water bottle lol

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisreed479 we are a team and help each other where we can.

@chrisreed479

3 жыл бұрын

@@Webdrill sounds like you are treating cleanskins like crap

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisreed479 interesting perspective. All the best with your career 👍🏼

Fuck this video really made me wanna go underground

At least he was honest

This is real work. I want in, someone please help guide me. 21yo Australian citizen, Brisbane based.

I feel sorry for these men. This is such hard work and exploitation when you think about the 100k this guy gets vs. the billions the mining company makes.

@thefamousdjx

4 ай бұрын

I dont think most people will leave if the incentive was high enough. The work looks super hard I dont mind hard work but if its really 35/hr then no ways

@DEadSpaCE211

2 ай бұрын

​@@thefamousdjx Yeah you can drive a forkie for 35 and hour.

@seventeen9718

19 күн бұрын

​@@DEadSpaCE211 I agree but the forkie job won't give you 12 hours on a Sunday. I worked in a prefab concrete factory throwing around/cutting full length rebar, working 12 hour days mon-friday... They stopped me doing overtime and the $27/hour was laughable for the work I was doing when overtime wasn't allowed, I left the next day. Seriously considering drillers offsider, it can't be much physically harder than that, just a worse environment.

I was considering this but seeing this no way. No breaks, no toilet no thanks. So much for getting a mine job

@rinnegan191

Жыл бұрын

do utility bro, i enjoy it as much! worst can happen is cleaning toilet lol no bones or muscle soreness at the end of the day

@trellgold6998

9 ай бұрын

​@rinnegan191 what's the pay rate for utility roughly

@oldschoolgamer.6802

9 ай бұрын

@@trellgold6998 low 30's flat rate from what I looked. I since found a job being a ta/rigger

@jamesleach7554

9 ай бұрын

Go surface mining, underground is a joke

@trellgold6998

9 ай бұрын

@@jamesleach7554 thanks James will look into it

Great job 👍💯

Is there a bakery down there?

Might have to practice shitting in to a bag at home before I even think about applying for this role! Good vid lads.. brutal and honest!

@paddlerofrivers7413

15 күн бұрын

How's the practice😂

@yukkmouf

15 күн бұрын

@@paddlerofrivers7413 Well.. you know what they say.. practice makes perfect!🫡

Great video was a bit unsure weather to get into this career but watching this video was made me think this is the perfect career for me👌 done similar work to this and I reckon I’d love this

@Webdrill

3 жыл бұрын

Feel free to contact our HR Dept.

@rolfpoelman3486

10 ай бұрын

*weather whether

I’m planning for a change, approaching 25 years in the army and considering a role similar to this. I’d be early 40’s by that stage, is that an acceptable age for this type of work? I’m fit and strong and healthy. The lifestyle appeals to me and my wife and kids are supportive

@SuperNagz

10 ай бұрын

@@Stece-mk3pb I did not go at all mate. I just cannot. Too scared of leaving tbh

@vegetaz1532

10 ай бұрын

@@SuperNagz why? Just reenlist if it doesn't work out

I work as a Floorhand on Drilling rigs (Coalseam gas) Is it worth moving over here? Pay wise ?

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Feel free to reach out to our Support Services team for a chat 08)93492296

I’m 22 I really want to this side of work, I have 11 months mining experience although it seems hard because most of these roles require Hr license and Open license

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, thanks for watching! Sounds like you would be a great fit! Reach out to the team, there are some opportunities hr@webdrill.com.au

Hello,There require the truck driver ? How much there earn ?

Thanks a lot for this video🙏🙏🙏

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏼

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏼

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏼

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏼

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏼

Sandwich and Rolls? Bro, I'll need Senzu Beans!

@ReaLzEdits

2 жыл бұрын

😂

This and nippering the hardest jobs underground

Good summary, bit about the pay is interesting, not sure how i feel about trying to be happy that the pay isnt more just because you save some money being away from the family and flogging ya guts out

So I’m guessing it’s not a job for a strong 50yr old?I was thinking of trying to get in but I turn 50.Worked hard my whole life in heavy industry.

Man would love to do this as a job to support my young family but it seems so hard to get into especially with no experience

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Are you in WA or SA?

@brolyns2225

2 жыл бұрын

@@Webdrill I live in Brisbane QLD

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

@@brolyns2225 feel free to reach out to our Support Services team - hr@webdrill.com.au

@wadeyyy7777

2 жыл бұрын

@@brolyns2225 me too! I’m in Brisbane QLD no experience but will be the hardest worker in the room!

@brolyns2225

2 жыл бұрын

@@wadeyyy7777 exactly the same bro, something inside of me just won’t let me underperform at work no matter what the task is

6:45 that looks like an amazing job for a 4x4 lover xD. How do I apply for that specific job? Whats the Title?

@Webdrill

Ай бұрын

Check out our careers page - www.Webdrill.com.au and apply through there

Is it a good wage?

💪🏼❣

i need to do this asap

Geez! That decline coming into the portal’s pretty tidy!

Someone at my job site offer me a job like this and he claims he’s making around 10k monthly I wonder if it’s true

Appreciate the video. Definitely not for me after careful consideration

@InternetHandle123

Жыл бұрын

Good call

What age can you start, also should you have a mechanical appetite?

@Webdrill

2 жыл бұрын

Best at when you at your physical peek.