A conversation with Jim Simons: Mathematics, Common Sense and Good Luck
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During the 2022 Abel lectures Jim Simons had a conversation with Nils A. Baas and Nicolai Tangen. The lectures were held at The University of Oslo, May 25th, in connection with the 2022 Abel Prize Week celebrations.
Jim Simons is an American mathematician, hedge fund manager, and philanthropist. Simons is known for using mathematical methods and algorithms to make investment gains. In addition to this, he is a long-time acquaintance of Dennis Sullivan, and in 2008 the duo wrote a paper together.
Nils A. Baas is a Norwegian mathematician and professor at Norwegian University of Science and Technology.
Nicolai Tangen is the CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management, tasked with managing the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund, which is the largest publicly held financial fund in the world, owning approximately 1.4% of the world’s listed companies.
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## Jim Simons Principles 1. Be guided by beauty. Just as a great theoram can be very beautiful, a business managed efficiently can be beautiful. 2. Sorround yourself by the smartest and best people you can possibly can have, and let them do their thing. 3. Don’t run with the pack. If everyone is trying to solve the same problem or a group of people think something is the great thing to do - don’t do that. “I’m not the fastes runner, i’m not the fateste thinker”. Do something original and don’t follow the pack. 4. Don’t give up easily. Stick with it. Not forever - but really give it a chance. 5. Hope for good luck. This is the most important principle.
@Chaosdude341
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for summarizing with articulation. :)
@tiagomoraes1510
2 ай бұрын
be guided by beauty - a non beautiful man
"Chern said it should be multidimensional, and I said OK." That's his quote I try to remember.
It's helpful to see Jim talk about math. It reinforces the truth that you aren't smart enough to do what he did.
@bvramaiah5959
Жыл бұрын
Where there is a will there is a way.. Do it with all your heart and nature surrenders.. Or let's admire the beauty. :)
@Jannikheu
Жыл бұрын
@@bvramaiah5959 If you do trading (which is what Renaissance does) with all your heart and you have no talent, you'll be bankrupt very quickly
@clintwestwood4545
Жыл бұрын
@@Jannikheu lmao true. I hate these delusionally motivational sayings
@tomr164
Жыл бұрын
You don't have to be the smartest, as long as you can hire the smartest talent.
@victorolagunju
Жыл бұрын
@@bvramaiah5959 and lose your money
Always nice, wonderful to here Jim...RIP
It’s always a pleasure listening to Jim. RIP
They have the father of quant investing to make a rare appearance on stage and this pair ask some of the most tedious, pedestrian questions...Jim had to ask several times what exactly they were asking
Don't follow the pack. Don't run with the pack. Do something original. Don't give up easily, stick with it.
For the last 10 years Mr Simon's has been a great window to what's possible.
Best news of this is that he's finally writing his memoirs
@mushrifsaidin
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Hopefully he comes around to finishing it before it's too late. I know I'll be the first to snap one up.
@avnisha
6 ай бұрын
@@mushrifsaidinhas he finished?
This man is brilliant, the knowledge that is needed to even understand what he says is insane, we’ve tried to break it down in our video, hopefully it will give you a better view of how you can learn and do exactly like Jim
Jim simons. Is so great he is very generous... He gave hints about his strategy very long ago.. But people should have phd in mathematics , quantum physics , astronomy and computer science.. To understand it.. And nobody takes such pain nor they are curious enough to learn all those.. Soo..no money hunny..
@cornagojar
Жыл бұрын
what hints?
@bvramaiah5959
Жыл бұрын
@@cornagojar it's not the peak of mount Everest that makes you feel alive but it's the journey.. Pointing out there are hints is way too much to reveal already I guess rest is your part to do.. :)
@variszarins
Жыл бұрын
@@bvramaiah5959 You basically sound like a retarded pseudo intellectual who talks out of his own ass and nothing of what you just said has any substance. Grow up.
@mattpiper266
Жыл бұрын
Yea it’s about connections on fiber bundles or as physicists like to call it gauge theory. Started with the wu Yang dictionary where Jim was invited by the physicists to give seminars to some physicists and discovered that both fields had developed a the same framework, so a dictionary was made to go back and forth between these two fields. This dictionary is called the wu Yang dictionary. It’s one of the greatest moments in the history of science that created a revolution that still ongoing till this day. What was discovered is that the quantum theory which governs 3 of the 4 forces in nature (weak force, strong force and EM) can be explained through fiber bundle geometry. Quantum field theory which previously was thought to be a weird collection of techniques was actually a natural geometric structure. Now how does this relate to economics and markets you say? Well what is stunning is that economics has the exact same structure!!!!! But the economists have been slow to recognise this. What’s even crazier is that Nobel winner Paul Samuelson was looking for it in the 1950s when he gave his Nobel lecture. He characterised it as the non integrability of indifferent surfaces but he simply did not have the mathematical knowledge to solve it. After this discovery jim likely realised this opportunity snd thus setup a hedge fund to capitalise on this stunning discovery. Renaissance is the greatest hedge fund in history average 66% yearly for 30 yrs and genrating an estimated over 100 billion dollars in the process.
@bvramaiah5959
Жыл бұрын
@@mattpiper266 👌💯
Very good interview
i have listened to Zuckerman's audiobook 100 times. A huge key takeaway for me....Simons was persistent for years pushing towards systemization when no one was doing it. Also, his hiring and management of staff was nothing short of brilliant. I have started 7 businesses...doing what he did, when he did it, how he did it and today they are stronger than ever is rare rare rare.
@rohitbtsarmy4356
Жыл бұрын
Can u pls explain last 3lines, from i have started 7 business I'm confused whether u r refering urself or simon
@mikestarks8464
Жыл бұрын
@@rohitbtsarmy4356 I have started the business...me
@rohitbtsarmy4356
Жыл бұрын
@@mikestarks8464 tq , do u tell me, other great person similar to simon
@kingdevil6021
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I know what you mean. And also he might be looking at things differently. Are you finance background for example?
@kingdevil6021
Жыл бұрын
Also Zuckermann says the most important thing: James loved making money IMO that's the most thing.
What a legend this guy is!
@kbriggs21
Жыл бұрын
I just heard about him and I've watched and read as much as I can. What a fascinating person and life.
@kuchikibyakuya7697
Жыл бұрын
Smartest billionaire
THANK YOU :-)
Bless him, he now looking very tired
It'll be nice to know how the tic happens. I know demand and supply are factors but how does it happen?
RIP John Simmons. Wall Street is grateful
briliant man !
Interesting. Just curious, does he have a large hole in his top right ear ( see the white spot at 09:43 ) or is it just the glasses?
@KalelSonOfDurel
Жыл бұрын
Seems like a hole in his ear to me. Wasn't there a year ago. Skin cancer treatment, perhaps?
@jespervalgreen6461
Жыл бұрын
It's the microphone
But above he rightly hired and employed Daniel Bernoulli's work on emolumentum
The man who solved the market, what a legend. But painful to hear the silly questions being asked. And hes a very old man, so normal for him to be a bit slow and bad hearing.
all of that and not a single example of a math field used to trade, not a single one, which is the most interesting question. What anomalies do you find, how for example, etc.
Very interesting
He Played Very Well trying not leak
Best investor in the world.
@variszarins
Жыл бұрын
Warren Buffett.
@jeffreyschnitman2484
7 ай бұрын
Please forgive me, Simmons is using algorithms to mine data knowing when to buy and sell security at the right time.
@RR-et6zp
18 күн бұрын
his traders were prioritized before other people's , that was a big secret
@RR-et6zp
18 күн бұрын
@@jeffreyschnitman2484 his traders were prioritized before other people's , that was a big secret
Does he even know what the secret medallion strategy is tho or does he just collect the huge profits, and his workers manage the codes?
he is the goat...
"Proprietary data" LOL
NICE.
🚀
who is dennis?
Who is Dennis?
@jespervalgreen6461
Жыл бұрын
His close friend, mathematician Dennis Sullivan, 2022 Abel Prize recipient, and so the reason Jim Simons is in Oslo.
@kuchikibyakuya7697
Жыл бұрын
Richard dennis?
And, he still doesn't have the habit of wearing socks.
I Hope Simons has the best healthcare he doesn't seem too healthy for some reason.
@broombroom3208
Жыл бұрын
He is 84 btw. ANd writing his memoirs... should probably tell you something...
@irinaspalko7846
Жыл бұрын
I had a similar impression, esp. compared to some other interviews I watched only a couple of years ago. Hopefully not something serious and he was just exhausted or something.
@Izzy-ve3xz
Жыл бұрын
@@irinaspalko7846 Idk I've noticed in other interviews he speaks pretty slowly. He's pretty efficient with his words and speaks to the point. I wouldn't say it seems like he's unhealthy especially for being 84 and speaking about maths like this.
Жыл бұрын
@@broombroom3208 and also a lifelong heavy smoker
@whatever-wn1nk
Жыл бұрын
he is a smoker
I have no idea what he’s saying but since he’s a billionaire I’m listening with both ears opening lol!
Congratulations to any of you who knows what the heck he's talking about.
@jeffreyschnitman2484
7 ай бұрын
He's just rambling. I took a few classes ar StonyBrook. Nice place.
41:00
Do you have Google
15:50
RIP 🙁
"i dont think we have any proprietary data"... meanwhile he describes math that relates to people who investigate time travel... ok Jim lol
Richest Mathematician
@piyushdamor4826
Жыл бұрын
@Rick Sanchez D99 Technically engineers are not mathematicians and engineering is applied physics .
@wideputin5194
Жыл бұрын
@Rick Sanchez D99 No. Applied mathematics is a field, usually one could only be (called) an applied mathematician after one obtained a PhD degree in mathematics/applied mathematics or related field. Studying in applied mathematics involved working with lots of theorems, proofs rigorously which I doubt engineers nowadays can do any.
@wideputin5194
Жыл бұрын
To put it briefly, applied mathematician is a subset of mathematician, but engineers is not a subset of mathematician, therefore engineers clearly are not applied mathematician.
@piyushdamor4826
Жыл бұрын
@Rick Sanchez D99 There are many fields where mathematical applications are required but it doesn't mean all of them are applied mathematics .
@AlgoNudger
Жыл бұрын
@Rick Sanchez D99 SANCHEZ is talking about Physics and Math?!?! ROFL 🤣🤣🤣
If I
This mother, Dealt with the Ochoas. Thus the American military.cia.
Finance man asking too many questions. Showd have let maths guy ask more questions
oh yeah.... hes knows some secret government shit FOR SURE
It's sad that a professor at Harvard can't make a living
@anthonyandiles5946
2 ай бұрын
Stupid jeffrey
This is a good video, I will forever be indebted to you Gardner 😇you’ve changed my whole life I’ll continue to preach about your name for the world to hear you’ve saved me from a huge financial debt with just little investment in money market, thanks so much Mrs Rose Gardner
@elwynphineas9498
Жыл бұрын
As a high school teacher, I got introduced to Ms, Gardner during the pandemic year, I cried about challenges I was facing here in Ireland, during my time working with her, I was able generate returns on my investment.
@bradleyhouston8471
Жыл бұрын
It hasn’t been easy trying to invest as a newbie with few knowledge. I’m trying to create a new stream of passive income. How can i reach out to her? she could be of great help
@penelopeelsie1771
Жыл бұрын
@ROSEGARDNERBIS
@forexsignals...syntheticin7833
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I train forex trading at a fee of 450 USD, slightly negotiable. The strategy works on any pair
13:42: Is it true that you never hired people from the investment industry? Never.
Just don't give a straight answer 😂
notice how in the end he said he started with fundamentals and wasn't technical at all. and you have these gurus telling you how important fundamentals are lool and the richest man done it using technical
Passive income is the only way you can be part of 10% population and seprate yourself from the Average population. YASIN NABI~~
He's full of BS in responding to the "which type of data do you collect" question - doesn't want to reveal the secret sauce lol
@watchingvideos9871
Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe this is true although this has been the narrative for years.
@stelios83
Жыл бұрын
Dont jump the gun here buddy. What he means is that they are collecting all possible publicly available data. How his system interprets the correlation between that vast amount of information….. that is the million dollar question and he wont give it away ofcourse
@darluok23
Жыл бұрын
@@stelios83it’s the multibillion dollar question!
@surfingbilly9654
Жыл бұрын
they definitely collect more than just publicly available data, 90% of financial quantitative analysis is having access to higher quality data than the market.
@RostamiMehdi
Ай бұрын
If he reveals, you and I wouldn't benefit. Other rich guys would use them and make money.
Humility is not one of his qualities. All though he is a great guy, I get a visceral antipathy when I hear him speak.
May Allah guide you to the straight path of Islam Jim Simons
but didn't he take away smart people from doing useful work for society and used them to pile up cash? shame really
dudes full of himself…writing his own obituary…pathetic