This dude betrayed every single person he possibly could at any point in time

TL;DR: this guy was routinely selling stuff that he stole from apple. then he decided to "fix" everything by also selling his buyers to apple while also selling a bunch of his former colleagues at apple. for some reason, apple did not pay him for it, so he has betrayed them again and also in the meantime decided to sell the entire story about how apple screwed him to vice. i'm amazed how this guy can sleep at all.

@arjundey1814

3 жыл бұрын

Fact is more stranger than fiction... People who complicate life to the "T" somehow tend to sleep more peacefully then people who are straightforward.. Somehow the "Apple's double agent" is quite a contradictory orator.

@martinlutherkingjr.5582

3 жыл бұрын

@@arjundey1814 “More stranger”?

@CW-lb4iy

3 жыл бұрын

WtF did I just watch. I hope you guys didn't pay him for that. Unless your going to post a video about how you double crossed him and canceled the transaction. I feel bad for lew trying to make something out of nothing but this guy is a joke.

@sageakporherhe783

3 жыл бұрын

I know right? I feel no sympathy for him at all. 😂

@mattyb808

3 жыл бұрын

@@CW-lb4iy right... what a joke.

"I am exhausted to the point that I don't care if they sue me" One should be weary of taking on a man with nothing to lose. It definitely took a lot of courage to come out to say it.

I am not sure what to make out of this.....Lew's ability to lead an interview that had much potential to be very uncomfortable impressed me a lot. Some things the interviewee said definitly made me a bit uncomfortable, but Lew lead the whole conversation very smoothly 👌

@ThePokestopPapi

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, the entire tone of this interview just felt very dark and unsettling for some reason

The leaker is really couragous, and Lew conducted the interview delicately but also not shying away from difficult questions. Respect to both!

@Anton-bp6nf

3 жыл бұрын

He is completely confused

@dertythegrower

3 жыл бұрын

Louis Rossmann explains a lot more of the deeper inner working of Apple products and corporation.

Ok Lew needs to do another video recapping what this guy said for us who can't hear what he said lol

@JLMODELTEKKEN

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one having difficulty. I had to stop watching it. Couldn't completely understand what he was saying.

@ashkanm.362

3 жыл бұрын

seriously, this was brutal to watch

"They were all Russians... obviously" Lew: 😂

Sounds like a Marvel crime investigation scene! "I got in contacts with this Russian guy and gave him the credentials and necessary details for the Apple connect account and he Bitcoind 1.5k to me."

@TheFreshSoundsFlorida

3 жыл бұрын

Yup or an espionage spy film. Lol

This guy is trying so hard to be Edward Snowden, but has no ground. I’m baffled how he is not realizing the situation he put himself in. What is his story? What is the heroic deed? He stole, he went to the source, give himself up. Now goes public. For which reason? There is no grey area here. I’m confused man. But he is much more confused than me.

@dertythegrower

3 жыл бұрын

Not even the same 2 type of whistleblowers... not even close. Not many can be like Snowden, this guy just works at the biggest company on the planet known to man

This is like a Ladbible interview man. The lights, the dark yet hopeful atmosphere, etc .

Well done Lew and team this is damn good journalism at it's finist.

@VonKickass

3 жыл бұрын

Pleeeeeease tell me you are being sarcastic!!!!!

@daiesison

3 жыл бұрын

@@VonKickass Hi Karen. We get it, you didn’t like the interview. Please leave now. Thanks.

just one question that i kept shouting at the screen: wtf did this guy expect?!

Oh my god you found the guy who does the voice-over for Steven Hawkins

The audio quality made it very hard to understand for me lol I’ll be back when captions are available I guess

@tlotlosenai7304

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I was alone

@ashkanm.362

3 жыл бұрын

seriously, trash audio... I'm not sure how there are so many comments unless they are all bots. I can't understand much

the agent's voice sounds like he could be next captain for an airline

@top6ear

3 жыл бұрын

NYC subway announcement guy

Sound was very bad and this guy obviously was very scarce trying to avoid the core of the problem - Lew, please, do us all a favor and make a video where to explain (or try to explain) moving along the timeline

He comes off like he has no long-term plan. All of these confusing decisions are seemingly explained by impulse and what he thought could get him a quick buck, and then he was surprised that it didn't work out his way. I'm usually all for the little guy, but it seems like he was trying to play ball with the big boys and wasn't ready for it

Perfect Interview, really cool to hear that side of the story. I look forward to see what comes of this.

Ahh, nothing more awkward than ending a long work call with a stranger.

A Sunday video is always nice!! Thanks Lew and Will !!

Lew is transforming into a journalist

Couldn’t watch this - the audio was so bad.

Wow…Lew has great interview skills👏. Very interesting story indeed. Still feeling mix emotions here.

I could barely understand anything he said🤦‍♂️

@adisonhough6985

3 жыл бұрын

Open your ears then?

Came here to discuss the ethics of leaks and just read 60 comments complaining that the microphone quality isn't good enough. Thanks for the video though! Super insightful.

Captions on this interview would be nice…

Cool video, unfortunately audio is so bad I can barely understand a word of the guy. So I’m gonna skip this. 2021: people still use AirPods for video calls. Just buy a goddamn 25$ mic dude.

@better_call_joe

3 жыл бұрын

Someone that was able to understand can write a TLDR please?

@_____0__

3 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate ppl buy apple earpods, blame the bad audio on those pieces of crap

This felt really weird!! But interesting!

11 minutes in and I'm out. Seriously get this man a proper microphone.

@parha123

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 I can't even stand 1 minute in there. What do you take in diet ?

@Zygrade101

3 жыл бұрын

Is that the airpod's mic? I thought they were good

@hqcart1

3 жыл бұрын

bllame apple ipods for that!

@JLMODELTEKKEN

3 жыл бұрын

It was about 5 minutes for me. One & done. Couldn't understand anything.

This was a such good conversation, bravo Lew. As an eye-opener on how apple works, the leak community and its inter-connectedness with the consumers of these leaks, it was super insightful. Our interest in the latest information on apple and these companies, puts a value to it and people who exist who are willing to take risks to benefit from it, introduced a new perspective I had never really considered.

the leaker BARKS like Otis

I do not feel bad for him for the actions that he took. He tried to play all sides and got bit. I also don’t like the way that Apple handled this, as they are showing the bigger community that their is not a benefit in helping them. It’s a tough case and hard to tell what the future will look like for Apple’s security.

Was interested in this but unfortunately between the audio quality and language barrier I had to bail

@marksapollo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeap plus the guy sounds boring.

@maxz999

3 жыл бұрын

x2 speed made it more bearable

He seems genuinely upset about the situation and his involvement, while has has done wrong I think he has recognised that but his flipping is distasteful.

The man looks kinda hurt from what he did, he just wants it all to be over.

@JackieHotGirl

2 жыл бұрын

He’s a sociopath faking it. This attention is exactly what he wants. He gets off on this. We cant see what he’s doing with his hands.

This guy is a badass, but why's he talking like he's in a courtroom confessing to a crime he committed. The way he's describing the details is so cold. I mean yeah expected nothing less from an Apple double agent.

@playstion3man

3 жыл бұрын

I think he is German, German's are like this. As in straight and factual.

@vslow4795

3 жыл бұрын

He seems to be depressed as well

@aigul773

3 жыл бұрын

It’s probably for several reasons. 1).He’s out of his element(having a natural presence in media interviews is a learned skill and he doesn’t seem trained). 2).This interview is over a video call. 3).Sound quality is shit on his end. 4).His English is fluent but still sounds limited(less relaxed). 5).He could be nervous given the nature of all this.

@billygene589

3 жыл бұрын

@@aigul773 keen observations

Lew hates Apple so much 😂

@TheFreshSoundsFlorida

3 жыл бұрын

No he doesn't.

When i saw "double agent" i clicked faster than mayweather punch

A Leaker? sounds like a bad joke haha, we can seriously come up with a better name then “Leaker” right? how about… Covert Leak Informant or Intelligence Collaborator Tinkle Informant

the more secrecy there is within a company the more valuable the information, the more internal leakers will try to make money because it will be worth more than their salary to some and also there is a dopamine satisfaction to be the one leaking the info.

@andersenzheng

3 жыл бұрын

apple screwed up not paying him. now the message apple is broadcasting is: work with us and turn on your "friends", we will not pay you and maybe, just maybe not sue you. Or, you can continue selling the leaks and make a grand on the side each month.

Wow this episode is going to be epic!!!!

Such an interesting interview, thanx Lew.

@peterpp_t

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Unique Take 😯😯

I wonder if there'a a Tripple Agent and Beyond?

The guys audio was driving me nuts. So though to hear and understand what he was saying.

Lewis, this is a great change of pace. Something to appreciate and savour.

Even though the microphone quality wasn't optimal, I thoroughly enjoyed hearing his Story.

Speaking of using airpods pro for talking on the video calls: the microphone on them is crap. Should use wired ones

@costacoffee4life665

3 жыл бұрын

They’re the regular AirPods. Not Pros. I can tell by the length of the stem.

Great interview!

Lew wouldn’t dare do this with any other company or brand. Apple is probably the only company Lew has zero relationship with because they don’t pay him. 😂

Your videos are like ASMR to me, now I literally can't sleep without this podcast

It’s an interesting thought. Is he to be trusted?

@blazinhaze8339

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly... He's young, will he ever be trusted professionally again?

@k.i.a4579

3 жыл бұрын

Seems like a reasonable guy to me, I could see multi million dollar companies seeing him as a liability!

This may be a unpopular opinion, but I hope the leaker is doing okay, you can tell that this situation really affected him and probably his entire life. That way that he doesn't really show emotion and has a blank type of face really tells a lot.

I work at apple, so this is very interesting

The guy's mindset - Right. Wrong. Right

This interview would be a great sleeping aid for me...thanks Lew 👏👏👏

Why he look down so much? Does he have a script?

Very interesting !! Thanks ! 🙂 (It would be better with subtitles though!)

I wonder how Lew convinced him (disclaimer - haven't finished the video)

Great connection with Andre! This must be Willy Du at his finest.

Man im actually kinda glad u are promoting mint Mobil

Ring ring its Tim Apple 😂

I can't understand wtf is this russian guy with crazy hair color saying

@Crazyinnova

3 жыл бұрын

appple = bad i guess?

I love that he is flexing his Z fold.

Interesting conversation.

I love Willy do 😍 his anxiety makes me happy for some reason I love it

@tlotlosenai7304

3 жыл бұрын

In his voice: Oh yeah!

@peterpp_t

3 жыл бұрын

Willy DOOw

Anybody try mint mobile? Is it better then the main companies?

Oh my Lord!!!! .... the guy isn't live on camera?! - the real camera... so anticipated and skipped the whole video because of... Will! Fix IT!!!!

how on earth can this guy sleep?

@andersenzheng

3 жыл бұрын

judging by the man's black eye and enthusiasm, he does not get a lot of sleep, at least not recently

It was tough just listening to this guy. I always listen all the way through the whole episode, but this was unbearable.

This man is young and is learning. You are very big to come out and try to do what is right and for that I hope you have peace. I know many will make you feel guilty but we all have sinned lol your a courageous person keep growing bud

How good is Mint Mobile?

Guy is very young and have to be talented and knowledgeable about cyber security and stuff, otherwise how had he pulled something like this. Instead of taking sides and trying to figure out who is right and who’s wrong (because no one is right) how about using his talents for good. I’m Sure some cyber security company would like to hire someone like him.

Here’s an idea……make the products in America. Except then an iPhone would cost $2000 or more.

@andersenzheng

3 жыл бұрын

aaaaand there will only be 1000 units made every year

So basically he snitched on all his connections/relationships without a reward/compensation 😂😂🤣

He better hope he doesn’t get sued.

This does raise the question of whether all this tech journalism really is ethical? I'm glad Lew pointed it out We happily consume this content which people and businesses benefit from. But at the end of the day all this information is sourced out of potentially criminal activity.

Well, lots of interesting aspects to this story. Kinda stupid of Apple not to just throw the guy some money, they have plenty of money and ultimately you want to encourage whomever is working on the other side to turn on their friends. If the story stays quiet, well you have the information. If the story comes out then you have more people at your door ready to give you more information. Now the word is out: turn on your leaker 'friends' and Apple will leave you holding the bag and may sue you. Isn't this the entire reason the bug bounty program exists? Although hearing from this guy makes me think there is more to the interaction between him and Apple... I don't mean to be rude but he seems like he may have asked for something other than money from Apple, maybe to go live at Apple Park or some other kind of thing.

A can barely understand a word he’s saying

That music booming!

39:55 made me laugh :D

The beats are 🔥

Omg things unfolding

$1500. You would think it would fetch more,,?

TDot! shout out from st james town toronto!

I was able hear the agent clearly. The audio was horrid

Great haircut dude

He gave Lew an exclusive...too bad Lew didn't use it to full potential. I mean, package the guy like the media did for Snowden man! I'm sure that's what he's hoping for too! Not casually chat like your usual guests... Btw, the final lesson is to never trust anyone...he started it, then took it to Apple as if blackmailing them, and then got cut by Apple later on, and now he's switching back. So you can say he's got it coming, but also if Apple is treating people who've helped them to improve their systems like the way they treated him, it'll only discourage future bugs from being reported and risking consumer's safety in the long run so Apple's got to get it together, and Andrey needs to find a new purpose in life but do not lose conscience just because of this experience. Focus what you think is good for you and look out for yourself in the future if you have something valuable then keep it close to your chest until you're assured to be rewarded with whatever you're expecting. In your case, you've felt what you did was wrong so you went to Apple, and in return you actually got paid back by feeling you did the right thing and that's the end. If you were expecting more compensation perhaps it'd be wiser to put it on contract beforehand. It's really a cruel world simply because people behave by thinking like so, which is why we need to be more vigilant.

You should've asked him why he think Apple used him. Was it because Apple didn't pay him for discovering bugs & revealing other people involved in the leaks?

This guy flips more than Simone Biles!

Great interview, yet I think way more negative may come. Now his face is known and your business is linked with him. Risky move.

Works for apple, uses a potato

@GA669

3 жыл бұрын

It’s actually a sweet potato

@arkadiusz7605

3 жыл бұрын

That's MacBook camera quality 😂

@arkadiusz7605

3 жыл бұрын

Also airpods mic

@GA669

3 жыл бұрын

@Joe they actually do,it came with the new update.

@better_call_joe

3 жыл бұрын

@@GA669 lol

Courage

Is this guy wearing Apple EarPods??

Wtf are you saying, next time when you are speaking something important just don't use those stupid wireless ear phones 😓

The fact that he is video calling a guy from Apple 🍎 on a samsung device

He's not a real person I think he's Jack playing a character

I’d rather hear an interview from the Tesla employee who thwarted the Russian infiltration. This guy is just petty nonsense. The guy ain’t noble, he was in it for himself, and still is! Now that his plans went sour, he’s a nervous wreck.

This guy has such a sad face & such pretty hair.

@sitandchill2897

3 жыл бұрын

Well, his face is pretty too. He's a pretty man, huge shame he went completely public like this. I don't buy his official story. I worked in "competitive intelligence" before.. He was likely blackmailed pretty bad as he got nothing from the exposee.. He'll need to stay extra safe from now on, as Apple's thousands of shareholders worldwide won't like this one bit, and you're bound to find some who won't be as "live and let live" and pacifist as Apple is, especially in places like Russia or Ukraine. While Apple's employees are harmless and quite pleasant people to be around, some of the people around the company, and many of the more powerful players who have interests in Apple continued dominance, definitely aren't "let bygones be bygones" types of this translates to losses :/

He’s stoned af