A chain of small mistakes can ruin your flight | Bombing out early

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It was a good day with some potential for long XC flights. I was good on track in the first two hours, but then something happend to me. I made many mistakes one after another, which led to a quick landing in a remote alpine valley. This video shows the whole story starting with my first mistake. Hope you will find it useful.
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  • @gerharduscombrinck
    @gerharduscombrinck Жыл бұрын

    i like it that there is no music. Just the real scene. Showing low saves and no saves and epic thermalling. Keep it real and huge respect!

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate your comments, thank you!

  • @tachyonist
    @tachyonist Жыл бұрын

    most authentic "how to paraglide" teachings! thanks a lot for such great content!

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @lukeheurlin639
    @lukeheurlin639 Жыл бұрын

    I literally feel this video…I’ve had the same thought process and I know the exact feeling of huge disappointment when your feet touch the ground. Best thing about it is that you had a safe landing and now you have the opportunity to fly again!

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Safety is always a priority, agree.

  • @bavarianthermikbaba7815
    @bavarianthermikbaba7815 Жыл бұрын

    Bombing out is not the worst after escaping from a area with no landings. Better stay on the safe side and don't spend the rest of the day in a tree. Thanks for sharing!

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the point - better safe than sorry. Thanks for watching!

  • @laserflight
    @laserflight Жыл бұрын

    Lovely video and I have to say these are very high level mistakes. Even Medium level pilots wont see or feel them as mistakes at all... You have much higher standards as compared to most of us..

  • @skypiratez
    @skypiratez11 ай бұрын

    Dude seriously, couldn't watch your suffering till the end.. Had almost the same situation this year, killing a FAI200+ day. But at least you managed to escape and reach a nice landing spot. Instead of escaping out when I had the change I took the risk and bombed out high in the moutain into a deep and long valey above the forest line. Hiked down for 6+ hours (+ 1 twisted ankle). Mistakes were made, lessons are learned.. I hope LoL.. Good video (watched it till the end)...

  • @ohakuneyachtclub8753
    @ohakuneyachtclub8753Ай бұрын

    another excellent tutorial in the series. i think im a better pilot just from staying home today and binging on your videos 😂 thanks again.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Ай бұрын

    Great to hear that my videos are helpful!

  • Жыл бұрын

    I think most of the mistakes are "I was not patient enough" (at least for me it is), not patient to stay in weak, not patient to to wait for another to appear, not patient to go slowly ahead,....and at the end I am alway not patient enough to fight in low height and I rather throw a towel in the ring :-) Excelent video.

  • @markmcgoveran6811
    @markmcgoveran6811 Жыл бұрын

    I've done considerable mathematical analysis of this. Going by what everybody says that weak thermal is probably increasing. When the sun comes up early and heats one side of a steep slope the other side is still cold and there is the week thermal at that point. If you can hang onto it until 12:30 just as habit you will get more strong thermals. You have a good eye and skills to pay the bills. If you would grab each of those weak thermals and tell yourself that is where the win is, and go by the time of day. Grab every weak thermal before 11am. I saw that first green place where you were low and I said to myself I could land right there good good. Then when you flew up to that road I was thinking wow he could land right there. Then when you got to the green part of the end I was so happy for you. I could have landed there. It will be a long long time before I would ever try to land on that road.

  • @edelsim3801
    @edelsim3801 Жыл бұрын

    Learning a lot whith your vids! Thanks for share!

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked my videos!

  • @StanBarankiewicz
    @StanBarankiewicz Жыл бұрын

    At least you had beautiful countryside to stare at!

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Getting out of this valley was another adventure though 😅

  • @mattpepper1143
    @mattpepper1143 Жыл бұрын

    I could feel the anxiety where you pushing too hard.. it looked like it was high pressure. You had a very valuable lesson on when to slow down and speed up that day.. Great tool for people very honest.. everywhere you went should of worked. The sport is a real head game and the minute you fuck up, you have to regroup mentally.. I think you learned that.. Great video💯

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and commenting! Indeed, failures teach a lot. I was trying to keep up with folks that were higher, and that was the result. Not that I didn't know I had to slow down, but I still hoped for a magic wonder thermal that would catapult me quickly up. Sometimes it works, sometimes you lose.

  • @mattpepper1143

    @mattpepper1143

    Жыл бұрын

    @dymanoid that makes sense, it looked high pressure on the day.. sometimes the broken crappy slow climbs are needed to get up, but when you eventually get up its much easier and you have the best of it.. Some times you can fly fast sometimes you have to slow down.. Patience until you know what the days doing.. good video

  • @davewolfe5169
    @davewolfe5169 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing

  • @MihaiIorga
    @MihaiIorga Жыл бұрын

    oh man, you really don't give up 😁

  • @wanderflieger
    @wanderflieger Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @user-sw3vo1wt1g
    @user-sw3vo1wt1g Жыл бұрын

    Wow, self-made "handle sticks" for C-B steering control on Cure2 ! :))

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really self made, bought them in a UP store.

  • @ElSusurradorDeTermicas
    @ElSusurradorDeTermicas Жыл бұрын

    Very very very low flight. Solved good. 👍 Great video.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @ElSusurradorDeTermicas

    @ElSusurradorDeTermicas

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid to you for sharing 🙂

  • @FlozzaBalkano
    @FlozzaBalkano Жыл бұрын

    I can feel your pain! Been in that situation several times! Maybe thermalling up a bit higher at Steinplatte would have helped? At least Pillersee is a nice place to bomb out next to. I've been living there for about 5 years...

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and commenting! Having even 50 m more of altitude would have helped for sure - other pilots were a bit higher than me and could find a reliable thermal right over the summit of Hochgründberg you see on the right in the beginning. But still, there were multiple options to save the flight which I successfully discarded by desperately chaining up one bad decision onto another.

  • @FlozzaBalkano

    @FlozzaBalkano

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid We all know better in hindsight. But every bad decision is also an opportunity to learn; so that we won't make the same mistakes twice. Thanks for creating that video; it's very interesting to watch. Hope to meet you in the air one day!

  • @billS-c3n
    @billS-c3n Жыл бұрын

    I find working thermals so close to terrain is very difficult. They are just too small being close to the ground. All of your assumed triggers looked good and they may have been there, but you may have missed them for their diameter being small. If I'm low like that, I try to make as much distance from terrain as possible by flying/climbing out front until I can fly back to the mountain for the real boomer. Maybe the camera perspective was fooling me and you were higher than what it looks like. Flying out front gives the safety of ground clearance and fatter/easier thermals, even if they're the ones that don't go as high. You probably already know this though. I too hate the feeling of mistakes leading to more mistakes out of desperation.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a very valuable hint, thank you. Indeed, the wide camera angle distorts the perspective, so things look not like they are. When trying to find the core, I often get away from the slope. Still, I prefer to stay very close when gliding along.

  • @Itsallgoodtogo
    @Itsallgoodtogo Жыл бұрын

    When you have to hope there is no strong sink to not land in the trees you know you already fcked up :D

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Fully agree! I can remember only a couple of situations where my only option was hoping. Usually, I'm rather on the "too cautious" side.

  • @paddledogs
    @paddledogs Жыл бұрын

    Really nice, I would be way too nervous to be that low over the trees without a close bailout. Can you post a pic of your 360 cam mount the quality is pretty impressive.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    That's nothing too complicated. It's just an Insta360 X2 mounted on my carabiner by a clamp and a selfie stick.

  • @paddledogs

    @paddledogs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid Thanks, the footage is really nice.

  • @NelsonsWings
    @NelsonsWings Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Question: you are looking for thermals close to terrain. At least where I fly, the thermals don't work well (unless they are coming off a spine) unless I'm at least 70m above the terrain. Your thoughts on this greatly appreciated.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't find the link anymore, but there was a study showing that the best thermal lift in the Alps is somewhere between 50 and 100 m away from the slope. However, if you want to minimize your sink while gliding along the slope for a long time, it's better to stay close, within 30-50 m. Often you need to circle really close to terrain here in the Alps. I noticed that it's not true for everywhere - e.g. in Colombia, the slopes didn't work for me as well as here in Austria and Italy.

  • @PhilippeLarcher

    @PhilippeLarcher

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid "a study showing that the best thermal lift in the Alps is somewhere between 50 and 100 m away from the slope" as I remember that was for anabatic / thermodynamic flow, not discrete thermals

  • @renedekker9806

    @renedekker9806

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid _"minimize your sink while gliding along the slope for a long time, it's better to stay close, within 30-50 m"_ - that depends on which direction the wind is coming from, and how strong it is. You don't mention the wind in the video, which means you were either not aware of it (that would have been mistake #0), or there was almost no wind.

  • @andynorton7529
    @andynorton7529 Жыл бұрын

    Could be one of my flights. Safety first and then you realize that you're already too low. Where do you fly there? It's a beautiful spot.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    This is in Austria, not too far from the popular flying site Kössen.

  • @Mupace
    @Mupace Жыл бұрын

    Also another mistake is to try to catch the thermal doing 360 close to the mountain. Is better to do 8 until you are high and far enough.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Could you please explain why you think it's a mistake?

  • @Mupace

    @Mupace

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid because you close to terrain and also because when you face the mountain you have tailwind which decreases the capability of the paraglide to turn into facewing. Imagine having a 50% collapse facing the mountain… risky situation ☺️

  • @Mupace

    @Mupace

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid is better to do 8 and gain enough altitude where you clear the top or you are high enough to not do tight turns 😌

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mupace I see your point. This is true when the wind is strong. With light wind, you can indeed circle close to terrain or cliffs. However, it is a question of the skills. I wouldn't recommend thermaling close to terrain to beginner pilots, because they cannot reliably asses the conditions and also often struggle with turning tight or handling collapses. More experienced pilots decide whether they want to soar at the slope flying figures of 8's or turn in a thermal.

  • @Mupace

    @Mupace

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dymanoid agree with you!

  • @paddledogs
    @paddledogs11 ай бұрын

    Novice question - back in the valley when you were trying to get out were you a: on speed bar, b: hands up or c: min sink (hands shoulder)? Thx

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    11 ай бұрын

    Mostly half bar, but at some points at trim speed (when I tried to spot some thermals). There was some headwind, so I needed to push the bar a bit.

  • @paddledogs

    @paddledogs

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dymanoid Thanks, it's great when people post less than ideal flights so others can learn.

  • @ralphjohnson4041
    @ralphjohnson4041 Жыл бұрын

    You’re being far too self critical. The air was clearly. very stable and the tiny bits of lift you went through were just that - tiny bubbles.

  • @dymanoid

    @dymanoid

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe you are right. I wanted to show in this video that it's often a chain of mistakes that leads to an unwanted outcome, not just a single mistake.

  • @CoIoneIPanic
    @CoIoneIPanic Жыл бұрын

    You are not hard enough on yourself. Take a good hard look in the mirror. Were you the best darn pilot you can be?

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