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You were also very right about Stanley being ruthless. They treated Leonard Bailey terribly all throughout his life and eventually drove him to leave plane making altogether. To twist the knife further, they started writing "Bailey" on their planes as a marketing tool after he died.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

It was so evident in my research I thought it had to be noted. They bought and squashed so many companies through the last 1800s early 1900s. It was all built on the patents of other inventors too. I wonder what American planes would be like if they sought to build the best tool rather than squash competition.

Nice to see you back.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

Good to be back, it was a nice holiday, great time with the fam. I have an INSANE 2019 planned! Like you're not going to believe it.

Now this is my type of history

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

@oliverdelica2289

5 жыл бұрын

Wood.Work.LIFE. please also include European planes

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

I'll have to revisit that one. Will be 2020 by the time I get them all together...

Great video, Rick! Tons of good information in here.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Caleb! I felt like I was just creaking open pandora's box. I wonder even with all of the research how many things I got internet wrong...

Great video Rick, thanks for posting it.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill. More cool stuff to come.

Cool history. My newest bench plane is 1936. I have a mixture of Stanley and Record.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

That is awesome! My planes are...well, these :)

Hi there from Portugal, "Plane Simple" :D Obrigado(Thanks)

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

Super simple

So much info, Rick! Good one. I didn't realize that's why you don't see many hand planes that aren't Stanley in that 1800's time period...Stanley was buying up all of the others!

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

The MORE YOU KNOW!!!!

This educational video was awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do all this research. Those Rali handplanes were really eye opening!

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

It was fun, glad to do it. Ya the RALI really does it differently. You would think it would feel less than or something, but quite the opposite.

@MassiveReactive

5 жыл бұрын

@@WoodWorkLIFE How is the durability on the blades?

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

@@MassiveReactive the blade on the Sandusky stays sharp FOREVER. Same with the Like Nielsen. Both stanleys have shit irons. The RALI doesn't have enough use on it to know.

They are THAT precious, that's why you should use them 😊

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! I keep seeing that post of the dude that saves his good chisels for the last cut or cleans his hand plane after every stroke...THEY ARE TOOLS.

Currently making a wooden mahogany plane, really interesting video. Very cool 👏👏

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

So cool, are you posting about it anywhere? I would love to see it. It is a bucket list project for me.

@joel.4351

5 жыл бұрын

Wood.Work.LIFE. I am working on it in college as we are looking at sandwiching wood. 🤔👌

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

too cool!

thank you

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

In the words of Maui, "You're Welcome" sorry, I have kids...

@walterrider9600

5 жыл бұрын

@@WoodWorkLIFE good for you i have 3 boys 1 girl

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

2 girls here. Daughters make their dads better men.

@walterrider9600

5 жыл бұрын

@@WoodWorkLIFE they are different i got mine at 41 what a shock and wonder to watch her so different to raise than boys .

Good video, just one minor comment. The transitional planes by Stanley were not made before the metallic ones. Bailey, and Stanley after they bought Bailey's patents, started making their metallic before the transitional planes. They started making their transitional planes along with their metallic planes to cater to those who didn't like the "sticky" feel of the metallic planes but wanted the same depth adjustment mechanism that Bailey introduced (and then later lateral adjustment). They continued to make transitional planes all the way into the 1940's and were popular and widely produced along with the metal planes.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

While I agree with you. I put them in that order because Bailey's patent drawings for these innovations we're on a transitional plane. I debated the ordering of them 5 times before I put the video out. Either way I stand by my commentary that they we're short lived and we're mostly used to win over wood body plane users.

@taylormaxwell875

5 жыл бұрын

@@WoodWorkLIFE Not to argue or be a stinker about it, but they were not short lived. They started making them after the metal planes and existed alongside the metal planes for ~70 years and were sold in large numbers. Multiple other plane makers made their own versions of the transitionals because they were popular whether because of the wood body or because of a presumably cheaper price (maybe?).

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

@@taylormaxwell875 I knew many people would know more than me on this one. I will concede the point...but they we're never as popular as the Bailey patent steel plane...

@taylormaxwell875

5 жыл бұрын

@@WoodWorkLIFE You are definitely right about that. I think they sold a lot of them (not as many as the metal planes) mostly because they were cheaper and the average joe could afford it. I have a few and they can be tuned to work well but generally not as well as a good bailey. Actually the old wood planes can be as good or better than any metal plane but it takes more time and experience to be able to adjust them without a lot of effort.

Never heard a No.5 plane called a "fore plane" - as that's the name given to a No.6 plane as the old wooden fore plane was used be"fore" smoothing and finishing of the board

@WoodWorkLIFE

3 жыл бұрын

In the research for this article I found it referenced a few times, as the No. 6 is a stanley construct and wooden planes didn't fit into the numbering schema precisely. May "fore" planes sat between a 5 and a 7 equivalent.

You should check out wood river hand planes.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

I have some. They are really nice. I'll have to put them on the timeline.

I want to see more on this series! One thing though. I thought the "fore plane was always reserved for the #6. The weird plane in between the Jack and the Joiner. Something that the "foreman" would bring to the job to get it done, but it might save a little weight in his toolbox. I had no idea about the ridiculously old planes though! www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan1.htm

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

The designation of 5 vs 6 is strictly a Stanley thing. A fore plane would be a designation for both of them since they would both be used a jack of all trades plane. That geocities site was solid gold though...a passage: (Re: Stanley's #6) I've never found this size plane useful. You Satan worshipers out there might find them a useful prop during your goat slicing schtick by placing three of them alongside each other. Just be sure that they all point toward New Britain so that the number "666" results. Or, you can do your impersonation of Satan surfin' a six as shown in the image (Blood&Gore is very fortunate to have this image as Satan grants very few photo-ops these days).

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I've watched videos that stated full metal bodied planes came first with transitional planes put out to...transition...overly tentative wood workers into Bailey conveniences.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

They came around the same time. Some patents were made in transitional designs.

I have a Rali 220. Very disappointing. Had to send the first one back because the sole wasn't flat. The totes on the second one have come loose and the screws that are used to adjust the mouth have backed out during use. Biggest purchase mistake since I started woodworking.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

I had no issues with mine but I had never heard of them before I saw this one.

Can you tell how make a wooden door to the clozat?

Reading from your iphone? Tacky.

@WoodWorkLIFE

5 жыл бұрын

After this video I bought a teleprompter, you guys are expensive to keep happy

@oliverdelica2289

4 жыл бұрын

@@WoodWorkLIFE haha

Bridge city tools, pretty, high price junk. swiss plane is just ugly, say no more. On a positive note like you video. will watch more.