Do you want to see more structural failure videos? Let me know below 👇

@luvondarox

2 жыл бұрын

Ah absolutely!

@mysterync

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! And stuff like this---> kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKlm17Szn7HZeLQ.html

@nobodynoone2500

2 жыл бұрын

Only ones you find interesting! Its usually obvious which ones you are into, even tho you do them all great justice.

@smooth4553

2 жыл бұрын

definitely!

@whooshwhoosh7368

2 жыл бұрын

Epic videos bro

Looks like the original construction company missed a bullet and stuck to intelligent thinking rather than worshipping greed and profit, kudos to them for that hope they went from strength to strength in the future.

@jordanscherr6699

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't mind knowing too actually. Good on them, even if they couldn't prevent the inevitable.

@Bagheera2

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@cgi2002

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I think they way under engineered it. This is an earthquake sensitive zone and they planned to use a construction method that isn't really resistant to lateral movement. Still better than what actually got build, but honestly not even close to what should have been called for. Should note I say earthquake sensitive, not earthquake prone. The Korean peninsula is actually geologically quite stable compared to the surrounding areas, it is rare it experiences anything above a 4, with only a handful of 5+ quakes since 1977 (8). But there have historically been quakes believed to measure as strong as 7.4. You should build for what's possible, not what's probable.

@jordanscherr6699

2 жыл бұрын

@@cgi2002 I'll thumbs up that. But they still "genuinely" dodged the responsibility of building a house of sticks. They said no, then left when the client wouldn't take this for an answer. I mean, who knows, did they learn from this and become even more careful later on? (Again, wouldn't mind knowing.)

@cgi2002

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanscherr6699 honestly I think this disaster had major effects on the building codes in South Korea, and actually may have lead to several other buildings needing remedial works or been entirely condemned. So effectively everyone learnt from this. As many others have said, updates to building codes and inspection rules tend to only occur as a side effect of tragedy.

New fear unlocked.. surviving a building collapse, being trapped underneath and then getting unknowingly drowned by the fire department

@TeeTop_

2 жыл бұрын

For real. Never heard about people getting drowned like that before.

@MandyMeowington5

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the guy that was trapped for 17 days. I guess it’s better than drowning, but that is some *lifelong* trauma to deal with.

@bufogeist

2 жыл бұрын

The same thing happened during the Hyatt walkway collapse. Fascinating Horror has a video on it.

@cas4040

2 жыл бұрын

He kind of glossed over that, but that was terrifying to hear.

@antihistamean

2 жыл бұрын

He mentioned it so casually and it was all I could think about after he brought it up

As an architecture student,, when I heard the slab system, reduced column section to increase space, on top of that adding a whole new floor and increasing the load distributed on each floor... absolutely BAFFLING

@laundrysauce354

2 жыл бұрын

Even as a person who knows nothing about architecture it's obvious what would happen, reduced the support and added a ton of weight wtf.. and on top of that I heard from another comment they had an elevator which was a huge hole in the building on top of the lack of support!

@bkjeong4302

Жыл бұрын

@@laundrysauce354 Escalator rather than elevator, but yeah.

@destinieroseify

11 ай бұрын

I'm a civil engineering student in my senior year. My mouth hung open during the breakdown.

@blepblep7245

8 ай бұрын

dude not even that. u can alrd tell shit was terrible when the first construction company was fired bc they refuse to add another floor bc then the foundation would be inadequate

@blepblep7245

8 ай бұрын

like when u fire people bc u refuse to listen to them telling you that you are wrong??? that's just called begging for a disaster to happen

I was amazed by Korean shopping malls today when I went there recently. So big, so well designed and structured. Sad to know they probably learned a hard lesson of building regulations for these to exist today after this disaster.

@teeklerlee5847

2 жыл бұрын

They learned but not so much. There were still some incidents regarding poor safety measures in construction.

@flux.aeterna

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure who to attribute this to but: “regulations are written in blood”

Funny story; the guy who insisted they stay open, but left the building for his own safety? His daughter-in-law worked in the building and was rescued from the rubble days later. He didn't even bother trying to find her to warn to her.

@octagonPerfectionist

2 жыл бұрын

shows how sociopathic these people are. it's not like these guys were unique, they just got caught

@crazeelazee7524

2 жыл бұрын

Plot twist: the guy hated his daughter in law so much he insisted the building stay open just so she would be killed

@chrisperrien7055

2 жыл бұрын

Value towards women and human-life in general are kinda skewed over there , compared to what you see in the West. I spent some time there.

@theblackcatgirl7013

2 жыл бұрын

Greedy Coward that one. Pure blooded coward.

@Lucas12v

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisperrien7055 I've spent a lot of time in South Korea and i never got that impression at all.

"They didn't recalculate, they just made some adjustments on the blueprint" Well, that's your problem right there.

@reubensandwich9249

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the T2 Labs explosion, where they just scaled the design.

@stevenclark2188

2 жыл бұрын

An adjustment in the wrong direction no less.

@isaacfairburne9981

2 жыл бұрын

Well, every architect's dream is a every engineer's nightmare.

@CoolSs

2 жыл бұрын

and that why civil engineer exist . Architect design the building, civil make sure it work logically .

@CoolSs

2 жыл бұрын

@A Fels you kinda forgot about how the clients love to mess with things .so don't put it all on the architect, when the clients themself ask for unrealistic stuff . that don't work or look good, then it get sent to the civil guy to make it work in reality . yes some "dreamers" exist but after all, the client is the one who pay for it and the client is the one who dismiss what it take to accomplish it . good luck fighting for your design from armchair architect client .

I haven’t fact checked this, but I heard from someone that when interviewed, the owner said; “My reputation was ruined.” This obviously ended up in backlash because why would he be concerned about his reputation when 500 people died. This incident was horrible, it must have been very traumatizing for all victims. Imagine being unable to stay indoors because of a trauma-related fear of the roof collapsing in on you again. Absolutely horrible.

@daanishgupta

2 жыл бұрын

In Asian cultures, respect in society has the utmost importance. Very common occurrence especially in Korean, Japanese and Chinese cultures. If I am not wrong, there was a South Korean cargo plane which crashed in Heathrow due to this very problem.

I remember watching a documentary about this disaster as a kid. What still stands out to me was the epilogue, in which further building inspections were carried out across South Korea. And in these inspections, they found that 2% of the buildings inspected, were safe...

@quatzxice

2 жыл бұрын

2% 😢

@saveimageas...9352

2 жыл бұрын

Asia seems to have a massive problem with stuctures being made out of chinesium , there as somewhat viral video going around of a asian dude working on a skyscraper and showing how atleast some of the "concrete" pillars are actually just packed dirt clad in drywall.

@quatzxice

2 жыл бұрын

@@saveimageas...9352 I really hope you're not serious

@saveimageas...9352

2 жыл бұрын

@@quatzxice the video is real

@vexile1239

Жыл бұрын

@@saveimageas...9352 with the metal rebar being made out of bamboo, I think the term is tofu dregs buildings

This story is a good reminder why building codes exist. Not to cost money but to save lives.

@ajfurnari2448

2 жыл бұрын

Well as the old saying goes "Every building code or every safety regulation, is written in blood"

@LoneTiger

2 жыл бұрын

The building codes are only as good as the people enforcing them, unfortunately, this collapse had to happen first before a lot of corruption could be cleared. 👍

@washingtonradio

2 жыл бұрын

The real reason for the various codes including building codes is to enforce user safety and protect user lives.

@BDCMatt

2 жыл бұрын

If only people from Florida could read.

@williamsurya2508

2 жыл бұрын

unfortunately, not all people follow the codes

Nineteen-year-old store clerk Park Sung Hyon was rescued from a coffin-sized space in the basement 16 days after the collapse. I don't even want to imagine what that must have been like for her.

@MightyMezzo

2 жыл бұрын

She is interviewed in the “Seconds from Disaster” program about the collapse. One of her thoughts was “I’ve never been married.”

@userequaltoNull

2 жыл бұрын

@@MightyMezzo how is marriage relevant? Is it a cultural thing?

@rockyBalboa6699

2 жыл бұрын

Some say he immigrated to North Korea bcos atleast they care for human life a bit more than south koreans!!

@justinclark7843

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say just another day in the office living in Korea

@decrobyron

2 жыл бұрын

@A Fels Korean here. NOPE.

Amazing that a 20 minute earlier evacuation would have saved likely everyone.

@CoolManCoolMan123

2 жыл бұрын

Rushed evaluation could have also had an impact on the collapse

@dreamystone

7 ай бұрын

@@CoolManCoolMan123 That's true, but in my experience people are civilized about precautionary evacuations. I was in one a few years back when a pretty big earthquake hit Athens in the summer. Was sitting at a cafe on the top floor and you could see the ceiling beams shake, but when it was over we all expected to just go back to business. Earthquakes are standard affair in Greece, so the evacuation announcement was scarier than the earthquake. Still, everyone calmly collected their belongings and allowed the employees to herd us to emergency exits. No screaming, no shouting, no running, only some complains about interrupted lunch breaks.

Me, starting to watch this: Oh, must be because of poor building on the landfill. Me, in finishing this: Oh balls, this was probably the most avoidable disaster PD has ever covered.

@ZGryphon

2 жыл бұрын

So avoidable, it took actual effort not to avoid it.

@destinieroseify

11 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing. It's easy to make mistakes when building on a landfill. I thought that would be it, but no! It was one bad decision after another🤦‍♀️

@holysirsalad

11 ай бұрын

Right? When he mentioned change of use I figured the ground must've given way to additional weight, not "lol we cut a giant hole in the middle, removed supports, make it taller, and throw weight on it"

@bkjeong4302

7 ай бұрын

The people who decided to build this abomination on a landfill actually did a decent job laying down the foundations. The problem was when Sampoong decided to screw with the building’s design and purpose, fired the original construction firm (which was opposed to these changes for obvious reasons) and decided to bring in their own construction firm instead to make the changes that led to the thing collapsing.

If a manager disagrees with closing a building, they should be mandated to remain on-site.

@CieraMychele

2 жыл бұрын

For real! When I saw he left I was so mad 🤬 u think it's so safe to stay open, why aren't u staying?? Then from his cushy home at 5:50PM he says "yea whatever evacuate" and at 5:52PM the collapse happened. He has over 500 humans lives on his hands, not to mention the number of people who were hurt physically and emotionally

@MerlinJuergens

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. If I say my shop stays open, from now on I am required to stay there for 24/7 for the rest of my life. SUPERB Idea! You are really intelligent!

@aislingokeeffe6195

2 жыл бұрын

@@MerlinJuergens You know what they meant. If the building is in an unsafe state but you mandate that it stay open, then the least you can do is stay there yourself and suffer the consequences of your decision. There’s no need to bootlick the rich executives you know.

@MerlinJuergens

2 жыл бұрын

@@aislingokeeffe6195 Again. What if it doesnt collapse? Are you allowed to leave to get something for lunch? Because that is what he did kek

@SaltyMikan

2 жыл бұрын

@@MerlinJuergens The building was in imminent danger of collapsing, if he wanted some lunch, he should have just eaten it in his store complex

Sampoong survivor(discovered fairly soon. No permanent injury except psychological ones) here. This still hurts my heart. Well made video. Except some pronunciation(understandable), solid research and good video. Me and my family was frequent visitor of the department store. Underground food court had good quality and cheap price. I remember one of the very few Wendy's store was there too. People expected to find survivors there due to the some pillars and large area but found nothing but corpses. I was lucky, stayed near escalator. I remember about 140 people's body parts were found at the Nanjido landfill. Like Sampoong site became the luxury apartment complex, Nanjido landfill got covered and became the park and World cup soccer stadium. I never go there. Eerie.

@sodiumsaturn

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for telling your story. How old were you when the building collapsed?

@decrobyron

2 жыл бұрын

@@sodiumsaturn About 10. I remember some of kids from school lost mom or someone. Sad.

@tonybuckeye2

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you made it out

@decrobyron

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonybuckeye2 Still thinking about the screams of others. How many made it out? How many lives were lost?

@tonybuckeye2

2 жыл бұрын

@@decrobyronthe thought of you dealing with all of that at 10 angers me , i hope your life has seen better days sense then

"The land was cleared and turned into luxury apartments." Welcome to literally every city, where a dump site gets turned into a mall, and then high priced condos and apartments.

@skyguy8786

2 жыл бұрын

ironically the place has a lot of dodgy stories being mentioned, most notably ghost stories and widely recognized as one of the most haunted areas in seoul. no wonder--it's a site of mass tragedy.

@shaniatabobondung925

2 жыл бұрын

@@skyguy8786 I wS wondering this exact thing

@teeklerlee5847

2 жыл бұрын

money!

@saturn1331

2 жыл бұрын

@@skyguy8786 Exactly! On a personal level, a lot of us would say no to building over a site of tragedy, especially a massive one. But unfortunately, money speaks louder than tears, which is why this happened in the first place.

@Kunfucious577

Жыл бұрын

I’m confused. What would you like to be developed there?

Park sung Hyon surviving is one of the most amazing stories ever. Trapped in a coffin sized space only slightly larger than her body for 16 days in almost total darkness. She is thought to only have survived due to a small trickle of water that she was able to drink from that saved her from dying of thirst

@alann5003

7 ай бұрын

How is she doing now?

“With collapse all but guaranteed, an emergency board meeting was held.” Incredible

@daminox

2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they finally decided to close the store after it had collapsed! "There's 500 people underneath that rubble, do you think we should close the store now?!" "Hmm... well, I guess."

@kentario1610

2 жыл бұрын

"with collapse all but guaranteed, an emergency-" me: yes? evacuation? alert? announcement? "-board meeting was held"

@hauntedshadowslegacy2826

2 жыл бұрын

Yo, I want laws that make inspecting engineers mandatory reporters of imminent collapse. Like, 'don't even tell the building owner first; just immediately call the necessary government agencies/boards and get a police-organized evacuation underway' type of mandatory reporting. And let's include a stipulation for high-risk structures (a la 'surfside') where a heavy-scrutiny inspection must be done within the week to determine just how high of a risk the structure is (and to see if evacuations are necessary). Enough of building owners being neglectful; if engineers have to take ethics classes, so should all prospective landlords. BOTH have a duty to not let collapses happen.

@jokuvaan5175

2 жыл бұрын

"So what time do you estimate the collapse will happen" "Hmmm.... before 18:00 o'clock I would say." "Okay we should evacuate now just in case. But keep the store open until 17:00 to get as much sales done as we can."

@Krexel

2 жыл бұрын

@@jokuvaan5175 "not long enough, make it 17:59!"

I can’t imagine the horror of surviving such a tremendous disaster only to drown in the fire suppression water that the unwitting rescue workers are spraying onto the wreckage.

@themeanestkitten

2 жыл бұрын

What about the guys sparying the water, thinking they're doing a good job, only to findout they killed some of the people they were trying to save.

@CharlieApples

2 жыл бұрын

@@themeanestkitten I’m sure that was also horrifying, and must haunt them endlessly. But at least it was justifiable; a large fire would have killed all of the trapped people by suffocation, and endangered the rescuers and anyone living in the surrounding area. The rescuers who were spraying water to prevent a fire couldn’t see where people were trapped underneath. They had no way of knowing, but still made the decision because it was the obvious thing to do at the time. But back to the trapped survivors…there’s just something deeply horrifying about the idea of surviving the main event, but being killed by accident once you’ve had time to feel hope that you’re going to make it out alive.

@verybarebones

2 жыл бұрын

Without the water they would likely just have burned or suffocated with smoke. The chance to save them was just not there.

@bernlin2000

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't sound like a very competent rescue effort. They were too concerned with the rest of the building collapsing, controlling fires, and removing rubble. As if these people hadn't been treated poorly enough without having warnings of the building's imminent failure

@CharlieApples

2 жыл бұрын

@@bernlin2000 If the rest of the building collapsed or fire broke out, then even more people would be killed. And you kind of have to clear rubble to rescue people, so idk what about that makes you think it was incompetent. I’m already confident you would have done worse lol

Store staff: "It's safe. Keep it open" *Proceeds to leave building*

At five minutes and a half in the video, I'm just surprised that the building stood upright for all long as it did. 10:10 the horror of surviving the main event and then drowning in the water used to put out and prevent fires...

If you have to close an entire floor off because it's going to collapse that's a good cause to cause to close the whole building. Especially when that floor is your roof

@millomweb

2 жыл бұрын

The WTC towers could not withstand the impact of upper floors falling either.

@rockyBalboa6699

2 жыл бұрын

Your floors are roofs to the people below it, isn't it!!

@Wildstar40

2 жыл бұрын

@@millomweb Incredibly tall buildings are essentially a house of cards proven when the towers fell. The second tower to get hit dropped first because the second plane hit the building much lower than where the first plane hit the first tower. So the second building dropped first because the load on the beams is much higher at lower levels.

@Taladar2003

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I would argue that it is more urgent to close the whole building if the ground floor is about to collapse than if the topmost floor is going to collapse.

@millomweb

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wildstar40 Interesting theat the second hit had more effect due to being lower down. Reasons are obvious - and it's clear that they weren't designed to be bomb proof. I know the planes weren't bombs - but clearly a bomb would have similar effect - buckling supporting structure causing a collapse. I guess the planes were bombs - not explosive but incendiary.

Moral of the story: when the owners and managers leave, do the same.

@ferderonhurgeron9263

2 жыл бұрын

Like the t-shirt of the bomb-expert: "If you see me running, FOLLOW ME!"

@Codraroll

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of when Disney shut down their corporate offices during the pandemic, but kept their amusement parks open.

@Dark_Lieutenant

2 жыл бұрын

Not a realistic option.

@JarrettWilliams99

2 жыл бұрын

When you see multiple cracks big enough to put your finger inside, the building is shaking, and floors are closed off, run

@kimyoung3160

2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the sewol ferry incident. T that was worse.. while the ferry was sinking the captain told the students to stay in their cabins while he saved himself

My father in law was a building inspector and my cousin was a concrete inspector and they told how people would try to cajole or coerce them into just letting 'this 1 little thing' go. My Father in law said it best. "Little things lead to big things so there ARE no little things."

How to commit mass murder: 1. Build and manage a defective building 2. ignore all the warning signs 3. Wait for the building to collapse 4. Sign all of your company's money and assets (of which haven't been transferred under your name yet) to the victims' families 5. Sit in jail for 10.5 years, later reduced to 7.5, and continue to live ur life with your money

@teslashark

2 жыл бұрын

And then it happened in Miami!

@Monochrome2004

2 жыл бұрын

when the owner of the building got out of jail he almost immediately died from diabetes and other complications which i call karma at its finest

What a world we live in where those responsible for terrible accidents being held accountable is something that's noteworthy..

@BType13X2

2 жыл бұрын

only 7.5 years though. Total bullshit, I'm a structural welder if I were to say throw flatbar or bolts into a large weld joint rather than fill it all, and that were to cause a structural collapse causing injury or death I'd do more time in prison than that. Because it's my personal negligence, that chucklefuck had all the information in the world to make the right call. And he chose to evacuate himself and leave the story open. Even stupider is the collapse was all but certain, the fuck difference would it have made to him financially to close at say noon when it was assessed as collapse imminent vs. reluctantly closing at 5:50pm when the collapse was 2 minutes away. You are still out the damned building. #1 rule in the construction industry, protect people then property then profit.

@PoptartParasol

2 жыл бұрын

I bet you those were just scapegoats, (they didn't even get very severe punishments either), that's probably why they got in trouble in the first place

@VarenvelDarakus

2 жыл бұрын

@@BType13X2 jail is jail and 7.5 years for someone rich who never would normally be in jail is justice I'd take , complain but not something who happens much elsewhere they just get fined

@joujou264

2 жыл бұрын

@@VarenvelDarakus I wouldn't be surprised if they just went to "white collar prison", y'know, "involuntary rehab".

@clueless_cutie

2 жыл бұрын

@@VarenvelDarakus This. The owner and ceo (his son) were jailed and force to relinquish all assets to the victims families. Here in the U.S. the owner would have been fined a miniscule fraction of their regular profts (the video said they were making 1 million+ a week, so like a $500,000 fine at best). And then when the families sue and easily win, the company either uses the state mandated legal caps for court pay outs to protect themselves (example: court determines you should receive 8 million dollars in damages - state max is like $1.5m). AND if the state doesn't protect them from paying out the ass in court, they'll move their headquarters to Texas while extending the entire ordeal with lengthy appeals until they've been operating in TX for over a year and then file bankruptcy and never pay a dime to the families. TX law loopholes are frequently used by parent companies to skirt court appointed settlments.

That construction company was surely happy they got kicked from the project

@BType13X2

2 жыл бұрын

I think they were happy the moment they got kicked. I've been in situations where people wanted to modify an engineering drawing right on the construction site without re-calculating if their changes could affect anything else. I refused to do the work because it wasn't signed off by a structural engineer and if I agreed to weld it I was agreeing to taking liability if it did fail. Turns out after being re-assed the change was fine as long as they increased the size of the steel plate the structural beam was going to be standing on to push the load out. You need to be willing as a trades person to say no to situations where you will be taking on liability by participating. Because really any person that was aware of the drawings being changed without engineering approval is liable.

@gummy5862

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly place some blame on them for not reporting Sampoong for their moronic building plans. They should’ve contacted authorities.

@MeidoInHebun

2 жыл бұрын

@@gummy5862 The authorities knew, many in government were also indicted for taking bribes allowing it to happen.

@gummy5862

2 жыл бұрын

@@MeidoInHebun Honestly I feel like that happens a lot in countries that suddenly hit an economic boom and modernize really quickly. Corruption on top of corruption.

I remember seeing this on the news when I was young...it was a horrible incident. The worse part was we had a bridge collapse in Seoul just the previous year and people had all been talking about safety regulations and such.

Facts on Sampoong Collapse: 1. The management didn't actually evacuate the building. They were in a meeting in building B discussing repair and gathering labor. They were still discussing repair plans as building A was literally collapsing next to them, which is even more ridiculous. 2. The survivors from Building A were all from the underground floor at the time of collapse. None had survived the ruthless collapse from above ground floors. The CEO's own daughter-in-law was rescued under the rubbles later on. 3. While the management didn't order evacuation of occupants, they evacuated some of the most luxurious items such as jewelry.

I can't fathom knowing a building I'm responsible for is literally cracking in half before my eyes... and choosing the little bit of money that could still be made that afternoon rather than evacuating innocent people. It's astonishing some humans have such greed and no heart.

@Br3ttM

2 жыл бұрын

Probably refused to believe it because he didn't want to, and some attitude of "Disasters are things that happen to people I've never met."

@antipsychotic451

2 жыл бұрын

it isn't helped by the fact that the global economic system is only focused on generating as much profit as possible. individual greed isn't the problem, it's capitalism

@VideoDotGoogleDotCom

2 жыл бұрын

@@antipsychotic451 Capitalism doesn't mean one can break the law. Nor does it necessitate that one has to be a complete asshole, like the owner of this department store. For example, five families selling their produce at a farmer's market with the prices they themselves choose is capitalism. Why would any sane person be against that.

@sunshineyrainbows13

2 жыл бұрын

@@VideoDotGoogleDotCom Greed and abuse of capitalism is the problem. Just like abuse of communism is a major problem for communist countries. It's less about the politics themselves and more about how they are applied. Flawed humans, flawed politics. The love of money is the root of evil.

@squirtleyujeong

2 жыл бұрын

What's even worse.. Is the director said, "Yes lives were lost, but our property was greatly damaged!" to reporters the next day. The country was outraged, rightfully so! How can one be so cold and emotionless in the face of such immense loss of life, due to your own selfishness no less?!

Can you imagine, surviving the initial collapse... being trapped in rubble.. wounded.. terrified... but having hope of rescue.... only to be slowly drowned by the water being sprayed by those you prayed would locate and rescue you... who were obviously just above.. so close yet so far. That is just heartbreaking.

@thepanpiper7715

2 жыл бұрын

From what I remember this nearly happened at the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse; the sprinklers ruptured and one of the last survivors pulled from the rubble only ("only") nine hours later came very close to drowning before they managed to turn the water off.

@Cedrinate

2 жыл бұрын

Just bafflihg how these firemen killed more people than there were

@mariaefelices6543

2 жыл бұрын

Hell on earth so sad ,god bless mandy ,mark cdf uk vor

@blepblep7245

8 ай бұрын

​@@Cedrinatebut i think they probably also saved some tho. the water trickle down and fed some

holy hell i remember this! i was in 5th grade when this happened! my friends (from what they have told me) passed by this building like 2 hours before it collapsed. at the time i didn't fully understand why it went down, just that "people took shortcuts" was all i heard. nice to finally know the full story! thank you!

This is the first I've heard that the project started as an apartment complex. Also astonishing to learn that people were actually held accountable for this disaster. Minor criticism: you mean exacerbated (made worse), not exasperated (very annoyed).

Been watching korean dramas this pandemic and its amazing how many times they indirectly mention this disaster. It clearly hasn't been forgotten in their media as it shouldn't

@mswamp_1826

2 жыл бұрын

Really? Which ones?

@DominiqueNoel0

2 жыл бұрын

@@mswamp_1826 Reply 1994 is one of them

@skyguy8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@DominiqueNoel0 응답하라 1994!! the series itself is fantastic. and yes the disaster is still very much remembered as an absolute disaster and a tragedy unmatched by any other.

@TheIIIJulianIII

2 жыл бұрын

@@mswamp_1826 It was mentioned in "Move to Heaven" as well

@kathrinesh30

2 жыл бұрын

Also the two main characters from “Just between lovers” are in the disaster as children

Just a reminder that the guy that kept the building open and that cut costs around every corner made incredible amounts of money. He didn't need to move the AC units on rollers, he didn't need to avoid repairs and warnings, he didn't need to ignore the imminent collapse so heavily. Those were all choices made completely out of greed and lack of any kind of care for the people inside it. I'd say it wasn't so much a problem with regulation or construction, but more-so a problem with a greedy idiot that should have never been in charge of anything.

@brendanthebomber.

2 жыл бұрын

What capitalism does to a mfer

@Nutmeg-

2 жыл бұрын

How can a human being live with the knowledge of killing hundreds trough greed and ignorance. How can that monster sleep at night? I really wonder.

@nk361

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nutmeg- Little to no empathy, same kind of problem serial killers have. Along with money.

@tiadrenaline5246

2 жыл бұрын

Social pain prevents many of us from taking advantage of others. People with less susceptibility to social pain (possibly due to personality/brain wiring) have less inhibitions when it comes to their actions in social settings, as well as a lessened sense of guilt for how other people are negatively affected by such actions. That, combined with an ambitious personality, can lead to these types of people, as their desire to achieve their goals overpowers everything else for them.

@nk361

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiadrenaline5246 low emotional intelligence pretty much

I’ve watched plenty of other channels cover this disaster, but none provided as much technical detail as you, which makes the whole collapse make more sense. Most of them cover this from more of a human cost perspective rather than constructing specifications. Awesome as always!

Korean Mechanical Engineering graduate here. One minor correction, Ondol described at 4:40 is traditional style. Modern ones circulate heated water under the floor. Water pipes shouldn't need stone slabs like before, but then again, since water still tends to be quite heavy, so yeah. It did add to the weight. Other than that, the incident seems well documented. The incident was so shocking that it's still well known to date in Korea. I remember it featuring as a major event in a TV series few years ago (lovers were supposed to meet near the building, the disaster struck, and pager didn't work out of the chaos). Every time I was lectured about failures in university, even though students were born after the incident, the professors would always emphasize the Sampoong Incident along with Sungsoo Bridge Incident with all seriousness. They seemed to be taking the responsibility, as much as their pride that they nurtured the history of Korean engineering.

Here in South Korea this collapse made a huge impression. The nineties also saw the collapse of a major bridge in Seoul. These two public disasters led to immediate re-inspection of buildings all over the country. Many if not most buildings were found to be dangerously poorly built (thanks to the construction boom of the 80s). So this terrible collapse also probably saved a few lives, as building owners around the country rushed to bring their properties up to code. Thanks for telling this story!

@bgc3864

2 жыл бұрын

Literally sthu, most of your information was in this video

@Sozzzled

2 жыл бұрын

@@bgc3864 someone's got issues.

@bgc3864

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sozzzled you

@kiraanastasiaandersen1145

2 жыл бұрын

Saving a couple lives with 500 is not worth it. Hate when people try to see the positive in everything. It was a disaster, and no good should found from it. thorough inspections should have been happening before then.

@annmendes1361

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiraanastasiaandersen1145 you hate when people try and see the positive in a disaster as opposed to always seeing the negative? Damn girl tell me you’re negative without telling me you’re negative

If a construction company goes "bad and dangerous idea bro, we're not doing it." The correct response is to get your plans looked at, not find another construction company

@kittyblossom7342

Жыл бұрын

But unfortunately, this is the reality everywhere. When you reject a building project because the owner doesn't agree with you spending more on the structure, they go to other cheap companies who give them more profit. Lost so many projects because of this. I hate this industry. It's full of corruption.

i love that PD doesn’t just do a “basic story telling” video but actually explains why what they did failed in a digestible format.

Along side drowning, being stuck in or crushed by a collapsed building is one of my greatest fears. The helpiness and pain would be unbearable just waiting to be rescued or to die.

I will never forget. I was in that building in the 90's and when I got off the last escalator I felt the floor shake so much that I just went back down and out of that building. Two years after that I saw the incident on the news. So many young people worked there.

@highland42

2 жыл бұрын

if you don't mind me asking, i imagine it was big news. how did you only find out about it 2 years later?

@donnam7766

2 жыл бұрын

@@highland42 He must have been there in 1993. Building opened in 1990 and collapsed in 1995. 3 years and already feeling the shakes.

@highland42

2 жыл бұрын

@@donnam7766 ohhh that makes sense

@ernestorivera4083

2 жыл бұрын

I was there for only one year that is why I found out years after.

@donnam7766

2 жыл бұрын

@@ernestorivera4083 It was a devastating news. Glad you avoided that tragedy.

Also the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul is best remembered for when broadcasted internationally on Live TV doves getting BBQ alive when they lit the flame of the Olympic Caldron and they’re were burning doves flying around the stadium until they fell to the ground when they couldn’t fly anymore. And the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul was the last time that live doves were ever used.

@bradleyallen6883

2 жыл бұрын

That was the year I was born. Coincidence? I think not.

@ferderonhurgeron9263

2 жыл бұрын

@A Fels No, they are flying rats. They're also one and the same bird.

@MrTak44

2 жыл бұрын

@A Fels A strip of bacon wrap and a pepper slice turn those little rats in to high class dining

@ferderonhurgeron9263

2 жыл бұрын

@A Fels True, but those are quite expensive and hard to come by. I'll just stick to chicken, turkey and feasant. 🤗

@ferderonhurgeron9263

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrTak44 not the ones flying around here; considering what they eat they're considered a mobile biohazard..

The handling of this reminds me so much of the Sewol Ferry situation. Nothing but rage when thinking about how these unfolded

I was working in Seoul when this occurred. It was quite bizarre. I mean the atmosphere of the attitudes and things especially about looking for survivors. I definitely learned some new things from your video.

"The building was constructed using Flat Slab Construction" Oh nooo Edit: Oh my god it just gets worse and worse

@thepanpiper7715

2 жыл бұрын

I remember back when I first heard about this disaster. First time I ever heard the phrase "drowned by the fire suppression".

@ddichny

2 жыл бұрын

They had me at "instead of recalculating the loads on each floor".

@neuralmute

2 жыл бұрын

I'm familiar with this collapse - it's like the Titanic of structural failures. Just when you think they couldn't do one more single stupid thing... they do.

@youmukonpaku3168

2 жыл бұрын

as it went on I started thinking "this is less and less incompetence and starting to sound like intentional sabotage by bad engineering"

@BenK12345

2 жыл бұрын

they built a turducken of danger

This is what happens when you value money over human life.

@SangheiliSpecOp

2 жыл бұрын

Its sad :(

@PlainlyDifficult

2 жыл бұрын

Very true!

@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648

2 жыл бұрын

There had to be an obliviousness about engineering too. Falling down clearly put the whole enterprise out of business!!

@superchatoalien4905

2 жыл бұрын

It's normal especially in China and Korea.

@olivia8338

2 жыл бұрын

@@superchatoalien4905 that’s definitely not normal for Korea

As a civil engineer major in a structural engineering class this semester, I heard no horizontal beams and went oh no! This is why we have the IBC. Worst part, it keeps getting worse!!

Glad people were held accountable. It seems this disaster could have been easily avoided

Typical senior management ' it's all fine keep working !!" " Ohh by the way I'm off home finishing early".

@tcpratt1660

2 жыл бұрын

"And my daughter? Nah, don't tell her, she'll be ok as long as all the money gets to the bank!"

@superchatoalien4905

2 жыл бұрын

Sad thing it's still normal in Korea.

The amount of disregard for safety and the lives of the visitors is staggering.

@tpmiranda

2 жыл бұрын

There's revenue to make. Keep it open!

@bogatyr2473

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta extract those last few dollars before they die.

@weemac4645

2 жыл бұрын

MONEY.

I was stationed in South Korea with the US Air Force when this happened. The biggest disgrace was that the bigwigs knew collapse was imminent and left the building but issued no warning

This is what happens when you don't let the people who know what they're doing take the lead. Just as a side note, I heard you say "exasperated" a few times when I think you meant to say "exacerbated," which means "made things worse." It's easy to mix those two up, but I figured you might want to know. Love the videos! Keep up the awesome work!

Jesus christ the building was practically yelling it was about to collapse yet they kept it open!?

@MASTEROFEVIL

2 жыл бұрын

Money talks

That’s what happens when “managers” are called to take engineers decisions. The point of view and the priority goal changes, from let’s build a structurally sound building to, let’s meet the monthly target.

@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648

2 жыл бұрын

but hey, don't care about going bankrupt if the store falls and then, obviously, isn't in business? what kind of wonky financing was involved?

@sirgideonofnirtheall-knowi1881

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648Myopic short term thinking is a disease that never seems to go away.

this will probably get buried but I just wanted to thank you for putting in the work to pronounce all the korean in the video correctly. its not something i see too often, and since this really was a national tragedy, the extra effort is very much appreciated

Was stationed in the ROK as an Black Hawk Instructor pilot and I was in country when this happened. Flying over the site, a year after the disaster, it was still in ruins. I couldn’t imagine being inside the building when it collapsed. It looked like the entire block had fallen. Being a bright pink color, it was easy to spot from 1000 feet up

Got to give it to them , they made a fantastic job of designing a building that was destined to fail . This was just shocking from start to finish.

@BType13X2

2 жыл бұрын

They also did a spectacular job garunteeing the maximum amount of casualties. Your told several times early in the day the building will collapse and stay open until 2 minutes before collapse. The people making that call should have gotten life sentences period. All personal financial assets siezed not just the companies, that should be the penalty for decisions that result in mass casualty situations that are 100% avoidable.

@locklear308

2 жыл бұрын

You know a lot of people will say that it's just greed, but honestly to me they're either just literally that stupid or they purposely wanted to kill people

Lee Joon: "Man, we should've kept the stores open after the building collapsed, the rescue was pain in the ass!"

I can rewatch all these vids over and over love the content Plainly keep her up man!

Really appreciate you indicating sources, it's something small but highly valuable in my opinion.

“oh dang the buildings gonna collapsed” “let’s have a meeting about this”

Wow. Unbelievable. Nothing about this was sudden or unexpected.

@shadowxxe

2 жыл бұрын

they had 5 years advanced warning essentially

@tiadrenaline5246

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Definitely no cracks anywhere. Or construction workers repeatedly warning management during the building's construction. And definitely no strange tremors in the building. Nope, the floor definitely wasn't sinking. None of that. Completely a surprise when it collapsed. Totally.

When I was a child (about 6 years old) I watched a documentary on television about this tragedy, it haunted my nightmares for some years. RIP all of those who passed away.

I appreciate your easy-to-read diagrams when structural things are involved, it makes it a lot easier for me to understand. It's almost like a mini physics lesson.

The most amazing part of this tragedy is that it took 6 years to happen instead of 6 weeks.

"15-ton cooling unit" means that it has the cooling capacity equivalent to 15 tons of ice. It's... a really dumb measurement, but it's ubiquitous. They're still really heavy.

@christopherconard2831

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've seen the reference before and wondered how dense the equipment was to weigh as much as listed.

@yaboikungpowfuckfinger7697

2 жыл бұрын

It’s an actual 15 ton unit. Blueprints and references all point to the mass being 15 tons not the refrigeration potential. This could be an error but the plans show that the floors were about 800,000 sq ft (74,322 m2). The exact measurements according to the plans are 795,205 sq ft or 73,877 m2. Multiply that by the 5 floors and you get 3,976,027 square feet (369,385 square meters). That doesn’t account for the height of each floor to give us the full volume. I found a site that puts the estimated height of the building at about 65 feet. Using that, we get a volume of 25,845,755 cubic feet, or 731,870 cubic meters. Take away a portion of that space due to floors, walls, columns, etc but the numbers speak for themselves.

@jasonharrison25

2 жыл бұрын

that was likely the actual weight of the units and not the BTU cooling capacity. A 15 ton cooling capacity would not be large enough to make even a small dent in the heat load of a 5 story department store

@kynetx

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonharrison25 That's a good point. Thank you for the correction.

@booboo699254

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonharrison25 That's right. My house has (3) 5 TON units.

Great video. Thanks for sharing!

Your channel is simply amazing. From a video about two trains crushing each other for people's entertainment, to lobotomy to buildings collapsing: damn, love everything! Keep on the great work!

Good on the original contractors, they stuck to their guns in the face of corruption. Many cave in the hopes that everything will go well... Never does, does it?

@Voltaic_Fire

2 жыл бұрын

We don't hear about the times they get away with it do we.

@T3hderk87

2 жыл бұрын

@@Voltaic_Fire No, and that is the unfortunate truth...

I remember watching news coverage on this when I was a bit younger ;). It was very telling that Woosung Construction bailed on the project, money be damned, knowing that even the first round of changes were not structurally sound. Job was totally rushed and the continued additions that Joon made would have never cleared any reputable engineering study. Don't worry John, some day you may get some sun in London.

@BType13X2

2 жыл бұрын

Any serious contracting company looks at designs made without engineering approval and nopes out of it. I'm not a major contracting company, I am just a welder and I refuse to weld anything structural or load bearing, or any lifting device unless it was designed and signed off by an engineer. In Canada, where I live if you weld something structural and it fails you are every bit on the hook as the engineer's and designers until you clear blame, and they will look at literally everything you do right down to whether or not your machine had been callibrated, did you store your filler metal correctly? did you preheat? etc.... Once you have cleared all blame from a metallurgical standpoint it keeps going. They want everyone that was responsible or contributed to the disaster held accountable and welders have been sentenced to more than 10 years in prison for negligence.

I'm both impressed and stunned by the fact that the building stood so well but at the same time the fact that he kept gambling like that on impossible odds

Neat video! Thanks for uploading!

"Sir, the building is about to collapse!" "But, but...money!" What takes to get a 10 in your scales??

@janosnagyj.9540

2 жыл бұрын

Chernobyl...

@tcpratt1660

2 жыл бұрын

@@janosnagyj.9540 And Daiichi Fukushima got the uncoveted (by project owners) "sh?t!" on the scale...

@Murhaain

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually pretty much what the guy said during the investigation, that his main concern was not only the customers, but also that the collapse caused great financial damage to his company.

@RatusMax

2 жыл бұрын

His scale went past ten but the problem was there was a 50/50 chance he wouldn't exist for the higher numbers and a 100% chance he wouldn't exist at the highest. So he removed those numbers. It's a calculated decision.

@FiredraPhoenixhawk

2 жыл бұрын

Chernobyl. That disaster helped destroy confidence in the nuclear power industry, contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and contaminated thousands of lives with radiation across multiple countries. To reach 10 would be a disaster that goes beyond destroying the lives of those in close proximity.

Your research, data & accent are top-notch 👍🏻

Hands down one of the saddest stories you have ever told, .great video as usual . but completely preventable disaster. The loss of life is atrocious. The building gave tremendous warning it was failing. So very sad.

I've watched a much longer documentary about this situation. I think you've done a great job distilling the necessary information down to a good length! Good job 👍

@bend1119

2 жыл бұрын

Seconds from disaster" did a great one on this

@LoganHunter82

2 жыл бұрын

@@bend1119 I hate "Seconds from Disaster"... They stretch the stories and fill the episodes with unrelated fluff (re-using the same clips all the time and repeating same stuff constantly). The stretch the story to 45 min when they could've told it in 25min

@markshaw270

2 жыл бұрын

Condensing

@dillxnr

2 жыл бұрын

Wat was the documentary called?

Just to point out: in HVAC, a “ton” is actually a thermodynamic unit of heat transfer, equal to 12,000 BTU. So a 45 ton unit will still be quite heavy, but it won’t weigh 45 tons. Easy mistake to make.

@deadon4847

2 жыл бұрын

It was 3 15 ton ac units.

@BaronFeydRautha

2 жыл бұрын

Lady White Rabbit made this mistake too. I've worked HVAC too. IT's always funny when people who don't know this make this mistake. Like, You think your little 150lbs unit that moves 5 tons weighs 5 tons? How do those pallets stand the weight with all those window shakers on em. LOL

@mrmustard-mp6ij

2 жыл бұрын

@@deadon4847 Yes, the combined weight of which were probably somewhere between one and three tons (2,200 - 6,600 lbs / 1000 - 3000 kilos).

@legslarrysmith_

2 жыл бұрын

Also, they should have been sufficiently anti-vibed. Which wouldn't have been expensive given the risk.

@Paintbait

2 жыл бұрын

He's right. In reality these units would have weight 1 to 2 tons (in ACTUAL weight) each, but lets say it was up to twice or thrice that since materials in the 80s were not exactly lightweight. A modern unit might weigh a ton, so I'll fudge the numbers to make sense with the period and location the units where manufactured. Hell, old residential condensing units from that time are beefy boys. So...Not an insignificant weight, to be sure, but not a whole ass 90,000 imperial pounds of added weight. This is a quite dramatic oversight for the video, but it isn't as if this invalidates any damage improper installation, engineering, and later movement would play in the disaster. Just that the building was that compromised from an engineering perspective.

they literally had every chance to prevent this. most can’t say that. absolutely unreal

I remember seeing once (I think it's in the _Seconds From Disaster_ episode about the collapse) that in the wake of this disaster, the South Korean government commissioned a survey of all the large buildings in Seoul that were built during the same construction boom. IIRC, the inspectors found to their horror that pretty much all of them were built as shoddily as this place, and that the people responsible for enforcing the building code were taking payoffs left and right to pass them. Many heads rolled, but not as publicly as the Lees'.

@bkjeong4302

Жыл бұрын

Something like 2% of all large buildings were actually safe. Cue massive rush to rebuild everything to prevent repeat occurrences..... Sampoong is still the worst non-military/terrorist disaster in modern Korean history. It killed more people than Itaewon and Sewol combined.

A quarter of the time of Seconds From Disaster episode covering it, while being more informative by far... Well done, sir, well done indeed.

@PlainlyDifficult

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@thecatwithatophat4069

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlainlyDifficult and a lot more concise and with better quality than the Well Theres Your Problem episode on the disaster.

@keiko909

2 жыл бұрын

the majority of seconds from disaster is spent, reminding you of what the disaster was...oh, and clips of rewinding images too

@tiadrenaline5246

2 жыл бұрын

Seconds From Disaster, if I recall, never mentioned how the pillars didn't ascend continuously throughout the floors, nor did it mention the ~50% weight increase on the fifth floor (in terms of specific numbers). And the images Plainly Difficult showed helped me get an actual idea of the damage prior to collapse (instead of a fabrication), which I really appreciate.

“Exasperated” means to be frustrated. “Exacerbated” means to have been made worse.

@ktbimbam

2 жыл бұрын

glad I'm not the only one who was irked by this

@lindahowarth2904

2 жыл бұрын

yes, it got me too, and twice

Wow, while the story is troubling and hopefully future generations will learn from this. The production of this video is great, I love the animations to go with your words! Subscribed!

I've seen videos on this but I'm always down for another one, this disaster is incredible in the fact of just how much neglect, willful ignorance and stupidity was involved. Still can't believe they evacuated but didn't evacuate anyone else so they could make a few extra dollars. Truly evil, I'll never forget this horrible disaster

Load path on a regular floor: Slab distributes load across floor > each beam gets some of the load > each beam transfers load to girders > and finally the girders transfer load to the columns. That's a lot more structural members to divide the loading into smaller forces vs just having columns

@Br3ttM

2 жыл бұрын

Concrete is great for compression, but flat slab puts lots of shear forces around the top of each column. There is the rebar, but that comes with problems because steel stretches and concrete doesn't.

I suppose the condo collapse in Miami recently could get a video once the dust settles so to speak. The lives lost is lower but the dodgy practices leading up to the event seem similar.

@neilkurzman4907

2 жыл бұрын

He can’t make a video until they actually report why it collapsed.

@MASTEROFEVIL

2 жыл бұрын

That's still under investigation

@oougahersharr

2 жыл бұрын

When the Miami collapse happened, I was at Mom's house and said, "structural failure, probably was changed in building process without checking load limits and structural capability. It's just like that store in Korea." She asked me what I was talking about (I had seen it on Disasters of the Century). So, I pulled up pictures of this store and showed her saying, "it could be the same building, Mom!" She was shocked that USA wouldn't have learned from such a tragedy, even overseas. So, we are waiting to hear just why the Miami building failed, but thinking it was for similar reasons as the store in Korea.

@boo.hates.spiders

2 жыл бұрын

@@oougahersharr Didn't they say there was structural damage found in the underground garage and pool deck and that the owners had been warned about issues with exposed rebar? I'm sure that's a contributor.

@oougahersharr

2 жыл бұрын

@@boo.hates.spiders I thought I heard that too. Selfish owners who want money more than safety.

Great channel! Keep up the awesome work! 👏👏👏

It is SOOOO GOOD to hear about the justice in this one. I wish you got to tell us about that kind of thing every time!

As a civil engineering major these designs hurt listening too

@guardianofthetoasters2323

2 жыл бұрын

Man I'm not even a major at it but seeing that concrete being shorten already screamed danger to me

When talking about the elevators you should have added the fact that they had an atrium which basically made a giant hole in part of the building which really screwed it up

@deineroehre

2 жыл бұрын

Was there ANYTHING not screwed up in this setup?

@jefferyindorf699

2 жыл бұрын

@@deineroehre from an engineering position, not a damn thing wasn't screwed up

@bkjeong4302

7 ай бұрын

@@deineroehre The foundations, mostly because those were made by the original construction company before Sampoong decided to make all the changes to the design (the ones Woosong opposed) that ended up causing the collapse

This reminds me a lot of the South Korean ferry incident in which the captain knew there was trouble and left the ship but left all of those children to drown. Here, the building head knew their was trouble and fled but left all of those people to be crushed.

Awesome video. Would love to see more.

Considering the amount of people dead, they went soft on the sentences.

@papaquonis

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the usual outcome for the people responsible for these disasters, it's surprising they actually served any time at all.

@WouldntULikeToKnow.

2 жыл бұрын

They should have gotten life. The entire lot of them.

@Br3ttM

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people are involved in building and maintaining a building, and figuring out how much responsibility any individual has is difficult. Without exhaustive records of everything that was said between various parties, management can claim ignorance, and design can claim they informed management. There is a process for designing buildings, but making changes to an existing design seems to often bypass the processes that are meant to prevent this kind of thing. And since we have both design issues and the AC being moved improperly after construction, there's another place to argue about who is actually responsible. Authoritarian countries can get around this by just picking one or more people who are partially responsible to make an example out of/use as a scapegoat.

@decrobyron

2 жыл бұрын

Law was too weak. D/A and Court did their best.

@odinfromcentr2

2 жыл бұрын

Considering they were rich, it's a wonder they got *any* sentence.

"instead of recalculating the loads on each floor, Jeong's team made some adjustments" oh no "The building was constructed using Flat Slab Construction" Oh no "Nearly a 50% increase in weight strain" OH NO! "Li Jeong insisted the store stayed open, however, Lil him left the building" *OH NO!*

@TT-hq2cf

2 жыл бұрын

im dumb - i get the other points but what about is flat slab construction is so bad?

@danem2215

2 жыл бұрын

@TT There aren't any crossbeams, meaning each slab itself bears the load; this is why every floor pancaked.

I work in commercial construction on this kind of scale. Often wonder about the tolerances and engineering that goes into it, I've seen a couple of slab collapses over the past decade so I'm naturally dubious about the safety of the finished product. The roof damage was a funny little aside, contributes little to the structure but speaks volumes about their attitude to the building as a whole (my company installs commercial metal roofing,pet peeve is lack of care on my finished product)

I used to be obsessed with a show called Mayday (old Canadian documentary-style show mostly about plane crashes, but also covered other disasters), and this was by far the episode that has stuck with me the longest. Still can't begin to imagine being there.

The title should be "The most dangerous game of Jenga"

@dustinandtarynwolfe5540

2 жыл бұрын

I like it.

@fellowstranger3333

2 жыл бұрын

Damn

"The collapse of the building, while it means that customers are hurt - it does also mean that the property of our company is damaged, too!" "Go ask 'em to the boss*, not me!" *chief of the department store company, who was technically a subordinate to Lee's Chaebol. - Lee Joon, when confornted about his responsibility to the collapse by the reporters Yes, he DID actually say that.

@clarkeconner5178

2 жыл бұрын

Nice pfp :3

One of my favorite podcast/youtube channels Rotten Mango covered this collapse and she talks about the survivor stories in detail. The stories are crazy 😮

Construction standards and regulations are written in blood, and far too many people forget that.