I'm curious - was my explanation helpful? I geek out over this stuff but I'm never sure if I communicate it well. Let me know what you think, and if you decide to try Cloaked, you can use this app and discount code (not affiliate): www.cloaked.app/ats (20% discount using code ATSCLOAKED)

@alberto9275156

9 ай бұрын

Easy to understand, and the graphics help out immensely! Will definitely be checking this out!

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

@@alberto9275156Awesome! Thanks for the feedback, Alberto.

@mattwhite532

9 ай бұрын

I got the basic gist of it, yes, the explanation's helpful. But..., well, I wrote out the question just now and had to delete it because I think I figured it out. So, clarification then, is the need for two cloaked numbers for each person/group so they have a number to call me and I have a number to call them? Otherwise, it sounds like a pretty cool, "All-In-One" solution. If it works consistently and doesn't mess up ones workflow too much if they go out of business, or, if someone decides they no longer want to use the service, then I'm all for it!

@anthonysakin1151

9 ай бұрын

That was great! I will check it out. Wonder if I can use it for my Google voice #

@azclaimjumper

9 ай бұрын

Excellent content & persuasive presentation. My solution to keep my cell phone private is to only give out my Landline phone number. My service provider will forward all calls to my cell phone. I can answer the call with my landline or if I'm out & about I can answer the phone call with my cell phone. The caller has no way of knowing I'm answering their call with my cell phone & have no way of obtaining/using/giving out my cell phone #. I don't have a so called "Smart" phone. my 4G Flip phone is enough for me to make & receive calls, make & receive texts. I tell everyone I don't have a cell phone & only give out my landline #.

Did a quick dive on their website, could not find out where they operate from, their security practices, third party vendors they use (virtual cards). A nice all-in-one solution, yet they could be more transparent. Their FAQ is a bit lean.

@notafbihoneypot8487

6 ай бұрын

Same

@krimsonsun10

3 ай бұрын

This is my concern, they are still a man in in the middle and have access to my communications and contacts. If they get compromised the users are screwed.

@notafbihoneypot8487

3 ай бұрын

@@krimsonsun10 unrealistic scenario for literally mass population

@little2nothingify

3 ай бұрын

Take a look again! There seems to be much better details on the site now. Maybe not perfect for you, but much more informative than previously.

@Sociopath99

2 ай бұрын

I wonder if you create a main account then use it to create a second cloaked account then only use the second account, and they get compromised there would be nothing on your main account for anyone to find. Since the second would was created with fictitious data would it be untraceable to anyone? If not, that would be a way to eliminate the "middleman".

This service is amazing, not gonna lie. Hope they expand it to other countries.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Definitely hope so.

@samsokach582

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, same here. I'm based overseas, and this sounds like a very valuable tool.

@augustedelstoff1

9 ай бұрын

Same, I really hope in future I can use this here in Europe. Thank you for showing us

@etano1701

6 ай бұрын

What do you recommend outside the US?

Thank you for sharing this interesting info. Looking into it. Blessings.

This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Your content is consistently excellent! Thanks Josh

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure! Glad it's useful.

Great explanation! I love to follow you because there is so many details I can take over for my private internet usage and security. The explanation was easy to understand and I think I am going to use this service even though I live in Europe/Germany

This sounds amazing, been wondering about a solution like this for a little while, thank you for sharing this! 🙏🏻

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

No problem!

I LOVE this idea. You explained it well. I will be checking out Cloaked!

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

This IS super interesting. We need Cloaked in Canada! 👍🏼☎💥

A limiting factor is the number format itself. Unlike the flexibility of email addresses, there are a finite amount of numbers in the available pool and its infrastructure is more tightly controlled. Large block ranges are reserved, and many numbers are recycled after a period of dormancy.

@KarmaisReal-sm6bz

5 ай бұрын

That's a valid concern. However, the way it's set up is that their temporary numbers is kinda just make-believe. With actual phone numbers, you're limited to (areacode)-3digits-4digits. With this system, because their app is forwarding the "fake" number to your actual number, the fake number can contain whatever number you want so long as it's not an actual phone number with an actual area code. So for instance, 123 is not a US area code, which means that every number starting with 123 is available.

@jdailey4063

2 ай бұрын

​@@KarmaisReal-sm6bzI suspect that, as many already do, most sites will be able to detect valid numbers and reject any that cannot be actual phone numbers.

Thank you! This certainly looks worthwhile.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

Definitely interesting but beyond my needs. Thanks for the tip.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I completely understand. At least now you know it exists!

I click on "pricing", I land on a waiting list for their system. Not at all what I asked for. So I cannot even see their pricing? They already lost me.

Superb explanation!

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

Sounds brilliant. I just need it to come to the UK seeing as UK carriers and networks seem disinclined to focus on customer privacy.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Yea, hopefully soon.

@madness1931

7 ай бұрын

To be fair, it's not that hard in the UK to get a new number. Pick up a new free (PAYG) SIM card, from most major retailers, and top up £10+. You're set to use it as long as you want. If you want to order online, give fake details, with a real address. You can get several cards, no problem.

Thanks Josh! Another great, easily understood video about our ever changing technology options. BUT Does this work with Signal App.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I don't think you can use these numbers for Signal, but who knows. Give it a try!

Outstanding... Grabbing a year now..

I definitely like it!

Hi Josh, Am in Nairobi, Kenya and very impressed by your channel. I would like to pick your brain on your thoughts on Online Security for Africa.. specifically am very keen to start a company like deleteme or incognia but with emphassis on Africa.

I think that’s awesome and would love it, but I’m in the UK… one question, could Cloak intercept your comms though?

Zhus is a true game changer 👍😃 Thanks for sharing

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

No problem 👍

I think I may need cloaked - I have so many numbers right now because for different business needs and I think this could be a real solution. thank you!!

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

This is just what I've been waiting for this solves all my problems

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Ok, wow. Glad to hear it.

oh man, absolutely need this in australia. i HATE giving out my phone number to anything that needs it for registration cos ive heard so many horror story of americans getting spam texts. i thankfully dont get any of those, but it's a big fear of mine

I think this is amazing! Although I am in the UK so I guess I will have to wait a while. I have 2 Hush Lifetime deal numbers, but it's often a hassle as I need to be signed in to the account to receive calls.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. That's sometimes how I feel as well.

I love that this is a thing, unfortunately I can't access it yet.

Hey @AllThingsSecured, I am curious, what are you choice of Smartlocks? Is there an indepedent or airgapped one?

This was an amazing presentation. I've been wondering how to do this and am so glad to know how. The only thing missing were the costs and terms. This is the ideal solution to stop the selling of my phone numbers. Thank you so much for helping us all stay safe and enjoy our privacy. My only concern is how secure my original number is once I give it to this mystery company. Will they sell it to a third party or not?

@RobinFriedmr

9 ай бұрын

I read on their website, I believe, that there is end-to-end encryption and that the database that stores your aliases is local to your phone. My question is whether they can listen to phone-calls though. I don’t know whether normal phone traffic can use E2E encryption

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Glad it was useful. I think this is one of those cases where you’re going to have to decide if you’ll trust one company in order to minimize the trust you have to give to numerous others.

@azclaimjumper

9 ай бұрын

Excellent Question

@azclaimjumper

9 ай бұрын

@@AllThingsSecured This is similar to DELETE ME, you give them all your personal info & ask that they do whatever is necessary so websites will remove your personal information.

Love the idea! Hopefully it will be available outside the US. :D

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I hope so too!

It was communicated very well. I have to thank you for all the excellent information that you have provided. I wish I had come across your channel prior to someone hacking several accounts but through listening to your channel and my own personal prayers I’ve been spared. I’m going to get Cloaked and email aliases. One question I hear a lot of positive things about Proton mail I’m in the process of diversifying my emails so I’m creating quite a bit. The question is do you use Proton mail for banking? Someone attacking your personal stuff gets you paranoid.

@AllThingsSecured

Ай бұрын

Yes, I do. Proton is an excellent choice.

@foreverwood1963

Ай бұрын

@@AllThingsSecured Thank you for the response I’m going with them. Keep up the excellent work!!!

Would this service deter SIM swapping? How is this different from Efani?

Looks interesting.

Good clear explanation. App looks interesting and a better solution than others offered. $10/mo is on the higher side, but understandable.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻

@AndrewMcDreamy

7 ай бұрын

Indeed. I hope the price structure is a bit more varied, more like a freemium kind of way that upsells.

This is awesome! Once they start allowing for the virtual cards, I think they will be superior!

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Yea, I haven’t tested any of that.

Very interesting!

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I think so too!

And I agree - INTERESTING! Now this situation comes to mind that I didn't see addressed: What happens if both parties are "Cloaked Customers"? Who knows how much about whom? What are the remaining advantages? Is this a downside, or a fail/stalemate (pun intended if dating app is involved!)because both have equal "shields raised to maximum"? Paul M. Atlanta, GA

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Interesting question. I'm not sure I know the answer.

@paulm5935

8 ай бұрын

OK - if you ever find out? And you think it's not only interesting, but valuable? - Please post/update as you see fit. I'd appreciate it, but you have to weigh this against how many more are out there like me. Thanks for the reply.

Question how does this affect iMessage? Would my bubble be green and remove certain features with iMessege?

This is a cool concept... I love that I can create aliases for my Proton email... Question... Really, the only reason I want another number is to not have to give my real number out when I use apps that require phone numbers. What is your best suggestion for the price?

A simpler option is just to have a spare SIM on your phone.. BTW iPhones can now have up to 8 different eSIMs on the same handset.

Can't signup for cloaked anymore... it says it's a private beta that needs an access code (not promo code)

Great video, but what happens to my main telephone number that I use with 2 2-factor authentication?

i was thinking of getting this

@AllThingsSecured

3 ай бұрын

Go for it. Give it a try for free.

Just amazing

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Glad you like it!

This is genius. Your phone number shouild be private, this is "Phone Number Aliases". Wish they will roll out in other countries. What about a cloaked Credit Card number for online purchases - like the disposable number from your Online Bank you showed us a few months ago ?

Do you know if they will start in Australia

Can you call and text countries outside the US or is that a limit?

You can also use google voice, although multiple instances means multiple accounts.

How should we sign up for cloakdd? Withvan aloas, phydonym,?

You look like you been out in the Sunshine! ))

This is awesome, I would love to use this service, except I live in Europe, so it's not available here yet.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Bummer. Hopefully something like this will be available in Europe soon!

I’d love an update on this one from you.

Please have an update if the service is available in other countries like 🇨🇦 Canada 🇨🇦

Hello Josh. Speaking of phone privacy, what do you think about Graphene OS? Is it hype? Is it only marginally better than android/apple? Could it make a difference for those with genuine security concerns?

@roseforeuropa

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking this might make a cool future video idea 😀

Kind of like a SimpleLogin for mobile numbers 😀

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Exactly ✅

Coupon is invalid. Do you have another one?

Question some people use your number to hack you? Can they still do it using cloack

Please do a video explaining the best way to handle 2FA when the ONLY option is SMS. Do you use a second Cell number that is not given out to anyone, or something else? Naomi Brockwell suggests porting Cell to VOIP after setting 2FA up on all the accounts. Is that a good idea?

Can you do a video on options available to non us residents if there are any available now!

@AllThingsSecured

12 күн бұрын

I will once I find any good ones!

@user-um4ix6we2b

12 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsSecuredGreat, Its very frustrating that we are always so far behind the US. Thank you for the reply

So, what happens when the service runs out of unique cloaked numbers?

Pricing?

Fn brilliant, what is the cost in the US?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I *think* I remember their team telling me the whole service would be $10/mo? Don't quote me on that.

@Zendukai

9 ай бұрын

@AllThingsSecured thanks matey, we have been bombarded with spam calls here in Australia, the Telco, Telstra are doing a fair job at stopping them. If these buggers get hold of your real number, and you accidentally answer one, they now know there's someone on the other end. But, if you sign up with eg a online shop, and decide that's it, you can just delete the number you set up with them, that's cool. Cheers matey.

Talk about imsi catcher and how to prevent on iOS

@AllThingsSecured

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

So if I exchange numbers with a girl I have to wait until she calls me right? If I call her she will see my real number?

It's a bit complicated but I like it

Sounds pretty good if it works as advertised. But it's important to have more info, how private is Cloaked? Who owns it? What is their business model?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

It's a paid product, so that's their business model. It's also a startup.

Hi,Josh. Looks like this is for a iphone only. Is there something like this for Android phones? Thanks.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Really? Sorry, I forget to check on some of these details. Thanks for sharing.

@KylerRoss

9 ай бұрын

I think it's available for iphone too! Cloaked app

@ls92101

9 ай бұрын

Been using on Android for months now.

I love cloaked, I’m just really starting to use it. I’ve found with cloaked and proton pass, the email addresses are useless. I create one, but the website says it’s not a real email, so it won’t take it 😣. I’ve run into that with my proton mail once in a while also.

@robertwright8844

3 ай бұрын

That's surprising, I've switched all my active online accounts (more than 60) to SimpleLogin email aliases and haven't had an issue with any website accepting them, including financial institutions.

I need to do the thing that I can do but when I am doing it I can provide some idea for them to think each day when it come it just get a noti from someone

It would be nice if cloaked and iron vest could combine services then I could have disposable phone numbers, emails and credit card numbers all in one package

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Both good services.

@KylerRoss

9 ай бұрын

It says on their website they are working on this so hopefully it's coming soon 🤞

I would love to use this. Sadly I'm in germany, EU.

that sounds cool, but what about text messages with those new numbers? do they work the same?

@AllThingsSecured

10 күн бұрын

Yes, they do. Exactly the same.

@quantumflux000

10 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsSecured Alright!

If i have US sim card number and go to forein country (roaming zone) will app work?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

The app will work, but the call forwarding probably won't unless you have international roaming with your US SIM card.

With Cloaked, do both cloaked and SIM provider have access to the contents of the call or just cloaked?

@AllThingsSecured

Ай бұрын

I believe just Cloaked.

I can't wait till this is in other countries.

This sounds very interesting. A shame it's not available outside the US, hopefully, that will change in time.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I know…sorry 🥲

@StayfunnyLG

9 ай бұрын

About that. I really like the fact that you disclosed this@@AllThingsSecured​. So many KZreadrs do not and seems to assume that everyone is from the same country they are. :)

I can't help but wonder how long until we're out of phone numbers again and will have to add more digits. I use an old google voice #... doesn't ring anything anymore, but people can text and leave voicemail. and since I'm not a crApple user, the app is already on my phone.

@RobinFriedmr

9 ай бұрын

I was wondering the same thing about how many phone numbers this might consume. I’m also wondering about area codes, and whether a deleted number could be reassigned to another user in the future.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

So the beauty of this method is that they can reuse these phone numbers with many people. The two-way routing is based on your phone number, so the number can be used multiple times by multiple people (even at the same time). I have no doubt that they have controls in place for abuse, but if you’re using it legitimately, you shouldn’t have a problem getting enough numbers.

I like Shannon Morse's sales pitch more. Not sure but she sounds more organic. Hence her code ;) Cheers!

@AllThingsSecured

Ай бұрын

Aww…it’s cute that you think I care about whose code you use. I’m just glad you watched and commented.

From what I gather cloaked only offers US numbers but is there anything stopping Australians (or other non-U.S. based) from installing their app, generating number a US number set the US number to forward to my original australian number (the one that typically rings my phone)? Would it incur international charges or some other extra step compared to the one laid out in the video? I wouldn't mind the odd looks of giving out a US number if it meant I could have a phone number masking service (similar to SimpleLogin with emails)

This needs to go international 🌎

@AllThingsSecured

5 ай бұрын

Hopefully soon!

I've called my provider and set up 2 factor authentication.

Sounds great with a few questions. Companies use text verification systems that fail on VoIP numbers. VoIP calls are always sound like your in a tunnel and worse. Does this setup allow regular texts that do not fail? Are the calls after connected use the provider mobile network? Or is this still a VoIP call?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I don't think this is a great solution for text verification, honestly. That's the reason I have the static second number with Hushed is for those places where I need text verification (although it doesn't work for all services). As for VoIP...I'm not entirely sure. You'll have to ask their team to find out. They don't charge for minutes used, so my guess is that it isn't?

Amazing service. Only concern is how secure is the connection? Can anyone at cloaked listen in to my phone calls at any time?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I'm not sure. But keep in mind - I'm using this to communicate with strangers, not my bank. The idea isn't 100% secrecy.

@adamsvette

9 ай бұрын

@@AllThingsSecured well, I know that standard SMS and phone calls are already unencrypted, but I'm just thinking about the fact that we're possibly adding a third party's ability to listen in. Like having a random dude at the telecom company listen is one thing, having him and a third private company listen in as well is just increasing the insecurity we already have with it Still an awesome product though. I will probably try it out

The ATS 20 doesn’t work

How do I verify they aren’t tracking my contacts or recording my conversations?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I don't know. How do you verify that with any app you use?

Have you read the privacy policy on the website? I have reservations. It seems very porous.

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I haven't yet (honestly), but the truth is I'm only going to be using this to give out numbers to strangers. The conversations I will be having are NOT sensitive, and if/when they do get serious, I would move them to my actual number.

So numbers are allocated per sender/receiver? Does this mean other people can use the SAME designated cloak number for their unique sender/receiver? What happens if multiple sender/receiver are attempting to use the same cloak number simultaneously?

@AllThingsSecured

26 күн бұрын

The numbers are designated based on the user. So the only way this would be a problem would be if the SAME Cloaked number was issued by two different Cloaked accounts to the same outside phone number. And my guess is that Cloaked probably has a system in place to make sure that doesn't happen (or if not, they should).

2:57 I hope the iPhone autofill didn't sell you out here :D

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the heads up. It didn't...but it's always hard to keep an eye out for that stuff.

So many options in the US but not available elsewhere🤔

@AllThingsSecured

Ай бұрын

Sorry 😢

What's the best way to archive an old number, yet still have access to continuing call history?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Just remove the contact but keep the number. They won’t be able to call you on the number, but you’ll still have the history.

I tried your link. As far as I can tell it is not giving a 15% discount. Which doesn't impress me as to the quality of their service. Either the link doesn't work, or they aren't honoring the discount (after only 10 days since you posted), or???? Plus as you are recommending them, it doesn't give me a lot of faith in your recommendations when the companies you recommend don't follow through.

Does anyone know if it supports RCS?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Can you explain?

If someone gave me the number, can i send a text from this virtual number or it is only for incoming calls/texts

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Yes, you can send them texts and call them with the special number Cloaked gives you. That's the beauty of this method.

I can’t use it in my country😢

Hi. Good idea but i still find it confusing after watching several times. What we need is a graphical diagram With a clear indication of my actuak phone and my actual phone number. Lets call that ME . We then need contact 1 real name ie Tom, toms own number and a unique number from cloaked that tom thinks is my number We then need to see where i store toms name his number and the cloaked number , is it stored in my regular phone or on the cloaked app. We then need to see an incoming call and text. And a reply. We then need to understand if i give the same cloacked number to a group of people at a conference then how do i differentiate between thise people, where is this stored.

Dont you live outside the US?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I do. It wasn’t easy to test this, but I did anyway 😂

How much does it cost to use this service?

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

I think it's set at $10/mo? I'm not 100% sure.

@specialk9999

9 ай бұрын

@@AllThingsSecured okay, thanks.

Seems like this requires a lot of trust in Cloaked. It's not end-to-end encrypted is it?

@AllThingsSecured

7 ай бұрын

No, but it doesn't need to be. You've got to keep in mind who you're giving these numbers to.

Basically,this is a VPN for your phone number, but yeah a really good idea 👍

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Uhhh…no? I don’t follow that analogy at all. It’s like email aliases for phone numbers. That’s the proper analogy.

Is it available for only US users?

@JGI43

9 ай бұрын

US only for now

@mraxilus

9 ай бұрын

Shame, this would be really useful.

@libbyd1001

9 ай бұрын

1:44

@AllThingsSecured

9 ай бұрын

Sadly, most of these phone privacy services are US-only. I think we also have the worst problem with spam though.

An issue if not subscribed after 2 years to the service, no ?

@AllThingsSecured

5 ай бұрын

Great question. I'm not entirely sure.