This will turn your lawn VERY green yardmastery.com/collections/fertilizers-granular/products/24-0-6-flagship-with-3-iron-and-bio-nite%E2%84%A2#

@MikeZimmermanOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Just threw some Flagship down on my KBG/Rye mix that has been taking its time coming in strong from a recent detatch/leveling reno. Already used another product about a month ago, hoping that switching it up gives me that extra boost.

@jbehuniakjr

2 жыл бұрын

Ordered and can't wait to throw down! If FedEx gets it together it might even be today Update: since I am in central Florida I am gonna hold the flagship until the spring and apply the stress blend now.

Yes! Would love to see them make one for the Toro Super Recycler.

@cwolf8841

19 күн бұрын

They make blades to fit. Just give them the model and dimensions.

@cwolf8841

19 күн бұрын

So call them.

Thank you for responding to my question last week about air8 and dormant grass. I threw down some flagship today then it started to rain so I applied the Air8 and RGS!

My blades for my eXmark 52" Vantage arrived on Saturday ( 09April2022 ). My current blades by Rotary ( part# 11421 ) after 15 hours in Florida ( are always worn out ).Then, I installed the Meg-Mo blades at 318.1 hours on my mower; and started to mow my property 5 acres. Currently, I have mowed 2.6 hours with the Meg-Mo blades ( hour meter is 320.7 hrs ) and my lawn looks great and a much faster cutting time with these blades. OH YEA

Definitely intrigued 🤔...can't wait to find out more info on these blades!

I've been viewing your vids a lot since buying our new place. I'm not dominating the neighbors yet but getting there. Thank you for getting me this far.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

congrats on your new place!! enjoy the mow Nik!

I looked closely at the MegMo blades for my residential Exmark. I look forward to more user feedback as I may give them a try next year … (new Exmark blades were recently installed)

I am on my third set. Good cuts. The upper portion above the cutting edge has disintegrated over time. The cutting surface has remained completely intact. The part of the blade above the cutting area is bent upwards and that is what has broken down.

This type blade was first introduced to farmers, back in the late 70s. Initially found on disk mowers. Now it is standard on all haybines and end even combines and choppers. It is a proven design, that is slowly making its way down to lawn mowers. My only complaint is the initial costs. The web site shows replacement blades are $8.95 plus S&H.

This is similar to what we commonly have had here in Australia for 30+ years. I had never seen the bar blade until I bought an ego 56v

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

it's really interesting to me how that turned out - that it's really popular in AUS but not here. I am intrigued by this for some reason lol

I'm in Melbourne Australia and we had an old Briggs & Stratton mower many years ago (30+) and it had a disk with 4 small blades like this on it and it was kinda the norm then but I have noticed these days most residential mowers both that I have purchased and used lately and seen when looking at the local hardware have gone to a single bar type of blade like the one you showed at the start. I don't know why but I would think the 4 blades would make a better and cleaner cut and like you stated they would rotate out of the way when hitting some for of obstruction like branches and stumps or bottles, cans, newspapers etc that people throw onto our lawns and I for one just mow over them as I have a bad back and don't check or clean the grass before mowing. I am in the process of refurbishing an old Rover ride on mower to mow my lawns with as it takes me 2 hours to mow my large block which is a corner block (not counting the time taken to cut the edges, with 5 separate sections of grass being...a back yard, a side yard, a front yard and 2 nature strips)grrr.... I hate mowing lawns.... FYI I came here to see what your channel was about after seeing some comments on Matt's MORR channel today and thought I would check it out.. ~;0)

Cool concept, I’d be willing to know more also. I think spindles would be ok unless you hit something with that big disc to make it unbalanced. Probably also puts a lot of strain on the clutch getting all that mass spinning. I use a wider and heavier blade for leaf season and notice a difference getting those started compared to normal mowin blades.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

yes with these you can feel the labor at start up. You can also feel them chewing when you hit thick patches.

My dad bought a Jacobson Self-propelled walk behind mower around 1971. That machine was built like a tank and had a similar design blade. It and the mower were fantastic.

@garyc.8488

2 жыл бұрын

The Jacobsen Turbocone. Large disc, 4 cutters, 4 wing tips (IIRC) it was a cutting machine.

@jdc212

2 жыл бұрын

@@garyc.8488 right Gary. I finally killed it by hitting a rock, which damaged blades and the disc. We went to a conventional blade until the drive unit went out years later. One heavy machine!

We had a Jacobson Mower back in the 70's. I had a big round disk and four almost triangular blades that were reversible. Very similar to this setup. Blades were tight, but would rotate if you hit something hard. It cut very nice. I think I heard that eventually they were outlawed for safety reasons. If a bolt would break it' wouldn't be pretty.

@makaveli087

2 жыл бұрын

Totally random but I found one of those little 4-Sided blade ordeals (brand new) my grandfather must've saved & just couldn't wrap my head around what its for (if not a edger or the likes). I was thinking some pre-sissy world Weedwacker attachment honestly. Now reading your comment & realizing there's two old aluminum Jacobsons out back; well *Thank you!* Mystery Solved.

Like all the other Aussies here, we have them. I get hi lift (curve in blade) I use catcher always. $25 a set so I just replace them after my Spring Renovation. A question you could ask is different styles to applications.

Yes the MegMo blades have been around for a while. Oregon Gator blades are another popular blade. I have them on my 21" push mower and my garden tractor mower. They hold an edge much longer than a standard OEM blade.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to see if I can get a set of the Ballard X Blades to test also.

Jacobsen had that on a rotary two cycle mower in the 1960-s, Google Turbo-Vac or Turbo-cut. It was a conical circle type blade with four fixed triangle cutting surfaces, they were sharp on both cutting sides so you could flip them over. The blade also provided flywheel action so after shutting the mower off you could mow for about a minute or so. I have a Turbo-Vac from 1960, and it is hands down the best bagger I have had, better than a Snapper Hi-Vac,

This is such a cool product. Thanks for letting us know about them and giving the deets. Seems like a no brainer.

Question I have is how the weight and additional moment of inertia (stretching yours arms while spinning) affect speed. And if the speed reduction is not a huge since the 4 knives don’t need to rely on suction to keep grass blades up enough to cut

Grassy-hay flavored candela AF 858’s are probably one of my top 5’s! Neat concept on the blades. I’m sure there will be many more reviews to follow and from other channels. You did it, now everyone will follow!

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

cheers bro!

Interesting concept. I'll be paying attention to see how they work in the long run. I'm curious how you would sharpen them?

@DrewSorensenMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Specifically. How easy/hard would 4 blades be to balance? Probably hard.

Cost is a function of time. The initial cost is higher but the long term cost is lower since the small blades are cheaper than a full blade.

My son has these on his 42”Bob cat he loves them I ordered a Set and tried them on my 60” Bobcat and it vibrates like crazy I called the co and they were no help so I went back to my regular blades which work great I use the high lift in summer and the Gater blades in fall

I’ve wanted these blades for a few years but I use mulching or block of plates to keep clippings out of beds.

Cool blade Allyn! Thanks for sharing!

Those swing back 4 blades have been on Aussie mowers for 50+ years. Less revs quieter motors. I should do a db difference between toro 22 and a victa. They have the same 163cc engine.

@fortune214

2 жыл бұрын

Standard equipment on Australian mowers haha

@Player16

2 жыл бұрын

Both 2 and 4 blades.

@recluse81

2 жыл бұрын

From Australia: Swing back blades are on my Victa and Honda push mower and Greenfield ride on. Love your vids Allen and been wondering why all your mowers have bar blades.

It is an interesting idea. My only concern is the bolts. With a single blade the balanced spinning force tightens it in but these knives moving like that will apply friction and force pulling outward on the bolt itself. It could be perfectly fine but I'll wait till you or others test the limits 🤣

Following along thanks for the vids. Question… how to remove centipede that is taking over established zoysia?

This sort of blade systerm has been around for a long time on small push mowers here in NZ. I remember selling 18 inch Masport push mowers in the early 2000 with a set up similar to this.

@maukaman

10 ай бұрын

Did any of them had blades that could swing though?

Looks like an awesome product. See if they plan to make a set for the Timemaster, if they do I will for sure support them. I like your Garage Green Screen shot! easy to spot.

I had a Yazoo push mower in the 80's. It had the same type blade. I though it cut great till one of the bolts on the bottom of a blade wore down. One blade cane off went through the deck and haft way across the street. I was just glade it didn't come back at me.

Hey Al, thanks!

Only question I have is since the metal is stronger and more blades, how long does the blade last before it needs to be sharpened.

I bought a set of the Mega-Mo blades from the owner at a turf show in Biloxi, Ms several years ago. Besides sounding like a bumble-bee when running, they do a decent job. Not necessarily better than other mulching blades. The one thing I didn't like about these blades is when it's time to sharpen blades (every other Monday for us) there's a lot of bolts to remove and put back together. Also, they slow you down in tall grass as in shopping center grass (johnson grass) where my regular mulching blades I can run almost wide open. I think they are a good use for residential grass that get's cut every week.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

thank you david, good info, I appreciate it!

Have a toro timemaster . I’d be curious on how they cut and mulch Also does the additional weight cause any issues with the drive belt?

My main concern would be blade height. I have St. Aug and already cutting at max height on the tractor. These look like they would drop the blade by at least another 1/4 inch or more just in the design alone. Thoughts?

Totally diggin' the concept. My questions would be: 1: I see a nut holding each blade on. What prevents those nuts from backing off over time and you launching one of those dudes out from under your mower? 2: Do they make a high-lift version? 3: How well do they bag?

I've seen something similar to this on one of the small robotic mowers. If I remember correctly they also use a center disc but use small razor type blades mounted to it.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

yes that is exactly right - when I saw BYD's robot mower it had a mini version of this same setup. pretty interesting.

Id be curious to know if the blades makes any difference on uneven/unlevel yards. Like where a standard blade cuts the grass shorter in one area then another. Making a gash in the grass.(hope that makes since)

how would you go about balancing the blade when it’s time to sharpen?

I’d be interested in how to balance them after sharpening, or do they need to be returned to the manufacturer for maintenance. Definitely an intriguing idea, looking forward to more tests.

@timbow50

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just thinking the weight of the metal plate wiould be more stable than the blade used mostly here in America. The weight of the little cutting blades is negible . I think if the little blades were of slightly different weight it wouldn't matter because of the centrifugal force of the solid steel plate. Just saying I would worry about it.

@clyde5491

Жыл бұрын

What are the bushings that are on the blades that the bolts on the wheel go through made of?

@maukaman

10 ай бұрын

@@timbow50 That’s probably true, I’ve also seen small homeowner lawn mowers with four separate blades attached to a plate hub. I think they are more common outside the US but they seem to be consumer tools so probably aren’t too sensitive about balancing.

I've always been told its the first 2" that does all the work....wait ....

@PacificNorthwestLawns

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@harryl7946

2 жыл бұрын

As a painter, I can tell you that if you dip 2” - your too deep!

@wadebarnes6720

2 жыл бұрын

That is true on about anything you do

Similar to the concept found on robotic mowers. Look forward to your feedback as to longevity

Rust resistant? How often on an average residential lawn can they go without sharpening? I have about 10 Gator Blades. Trade-in opportunity. How ard are they to sharpen? How many times can they be Sharpened and how do you know when it's time to replace them? Has a nut on a knife ever come off and what happens to the mower deck if it does? How are they balanced properly with four extensions instead of two? I want to try a pair on my Toro Timecutter 4235.

I wonder how well that blade works when you do a scalp? Can it be sharpened at home like my traditional blades? Thanks Al 🤘🏼🔥

I love it though and I’m sure the time cutter would as well

Is there a hardened bushing around the bolt that the blade rides on, or is it just the bolt? Wondering about whether the bolt can break or the blades’ holes stretch over time: resulting in a blade launching away.

@njphil1279

2 жыл бұрын

for $300 it should have a shoulder bolt and bronze bushing... but good question

@snowplowman77

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think its much about the bolt breaking, its more about which material will wear first since there is free play. A bushing is sacrificial and replaceable. As long as its designed properly (X amount of hours of use or X amount of times on and off, X amount of objects hit) then this would be the best performance. Also, a bushing decreases the chance of the bolt loosening over time as the blade moves back and forth upon engaging, disengaging, striking an object, or normal use against grass. Movement needs to be accounted for (which im sure they have, im just not familiar enough with the product and thinking out loud). Id agree, that bolt would likely be a shoulder bolt attaching the blade to the center plate. Otherwise, threads contacting the blade is definitely not ideal. Surface area for wear is too high.

How do you sharpen and how do you balance? Balance each one or the whole unit?

I would like to try them. Our season is about over but will try next year. As long as they have them for a toro personal pace super recycler.

You definitely nailed it. Can they make them for walk behind mowers?

Exmark blades and think wright and scag have a a blade with the cutting angle 1 inch away from the hole. Does this work on a 60 inch deck and is it compatible with exmark? And can a toro mower have a exmark blade?

Those are definitely interesting looking blades. I'd like to see how they hold up long term

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I will have them on my ZT for the next year at least and report in periodically.

Thoughts: 1) how does one balance 4 blades? Seems like it would be difficult. 2) Seems like a lot of extra material to drag on thick turf. Wouldn’t this extra drag be hard on the engine over time? Specifically smaller engine mowers, maybe like a Toro Recycler (Regular). 3) inevitably one of us is going to run over a stump, large stick, or similar hefty object. I’d like to see how this performs on the rugged test. And if it destroys the engine/drive mechanism of the attached mower. Again, think cheaper smaller engine mowers. 4) how good does it mulch thick leaves? Could be a major selling point if it’s good.

Sorry if this is a duplicate, but I have a Honda std residential mower with 2 blades, one of which is on top of but set back of the bottom blade for supreme mulching (mulches VERY WELL). I assume this bald may cut better but not mulch as well?

I would love a set for my Toro Time Master!!

That’s a $100 an inch. I’m definitely interested in the durability aspect. As for being tough on spindles. I imagine blade engagement recommendation is similar to the X-Blade.

Which power sprayer do you recommend in the $150-$200 range?

What are your thoughts after two year on the Meg Mo system? Thank you

I was wondering if they are going to make them for 21" push mowers I have the troy bilt i would like to try one of those blades.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

I'll find out for sure!

@spawn1086

2 жыл бұрын

Me too for my 21 inch husqvarna

@hanbig125

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 21" Honda HRX217

@MJorgy5

2 жыл бұрын

I emailed Meg-Mo about this and haven't gotten a response. An Australian mower brand 'Rover' has similar blades installed as standard. They're made by MTD, unsure if they are available in the US.

@kento1957

2 жыл бұрын

Even smaller: 19" Greenworks.

The way the blades are positioned under the center circle plate does that then change the height of cut?

My 16 year old Honda HRU 196D mower has these swing back mulching blades as standard here in Australia.

Looks great in theory. I’m wondering how they will work on a mower with an automatic throttle while mowing thick and tall grass. Will the thick and tall grass cause the blades to slide back, muck like hurtling an obstacle, causing a smaller cutting area or not a good cut?

@recluse81

2 жыл бұрын

Swing back blades are standard in Australia. They really only “swing back” if they hit something ridged and protect your mower components. They don’t “swing back” when mowing stuff that can be mowed. Cut quality is excellent!

Really cool design. It’s amazing that rotary mowers have been around for so long and we still see innovation! I’d like to see how these stack up to the 4 blade offerings from Ballard Industries. Cool Stuff Al!

@Icutmetal

2 жыл бұрын

What’s so innovative? It’s no different in principle than the bade type used on a brush mowing deck.

@thepursuitofgrowth964

2 жыл бұрын

@@Icutmetal yea idk if you noticed but this ain’t a brush mower…. The point is that people are still trying to make things better than they come from the factory.

@Icutmetal

2 жыл бұрын

@@thepursuitofgrowth964 No shit? It’s not? You missed my point completely. You’re right, but some others also invent solutions to problems that don’t exist, and just because something is new and interesting doesn’t mean it’s automatically better.

@thepursuitofgrowth964

2 жыл бұрын

@@Icutmetal who said it was better? I didn’t. As a mater of fact I said I’d like to see it compared to established quad blade options that are already out there.

@Icutmetal

2 жыл бұрын

@@thepursuitofgrowth964 Okay 👍

This may already be on the list of questions, but I would be interested to know if there is a "High Lift" blade?

Looking for Honda HRX. Does it have mulching. Capability?

Would you use more gas with these blades, because of the extra weight?

I run a small commercial lawn care company up here in Rhode island. I would strongly prefer to cut the grass without having to bag. Most of my Lawns are cut either weekly or bi-weekly . Do you believe these blades will leave smaller finer clippings on the lawn versus conventional blades ?

2:30 absolutely depends on mower rpm, power, speed. But blade angle and other blade geometries can change where the grass is getting sucked up. Ive seen blades with 10+ inches of paint worn away on the front of the blade (only sharpened up to 4 inches) and then ive seen blades (on the same machine at a later date) with 6 inches of sharpened edge and only the first 3-4 inches really gets worn down.

So when you do hit something, how do you balance something like this?

WOW ALYN ! Where did you find those new sling blades! Question: What Types of metal used in each component and the hardware used in the attach points. Bravo

Reminds me of the jacobsen mower from the 70s rotating disk 4 blades.

How do you balance them when sharpening?

You know there’s no “noise” in Illinois... common mis-pronunciation. My wife is from there. Anyways, I see another Toro lover, got my Titan with MyRide... wow!!! Not sure if I will be installing these blades yet, but will probably put some in my 42” Troy Bilt for cleaning up some rough areas.. I’m sure it will smooth out the cutting of all the underbrush. Cheers!

My question is how would they be balanced to avoid vibration and spindle damage.

How would you sharpen? Thxs

I've got a John Deere riding mower and would wonder about the extra stress on the blade belt? But if it does cut better and mulch better than the standard blades, maybe that is not an issue. 🤷🏼.

I would like to know how easy the knives come off and are sharpened. I know that bush hog blades are more dull than sharp; would that work as well? Longevity would be great to see, especially with transitional yards. I’m converting some early growth forestland into back yard. It’s uneven, chocked full of mulch chips that I can hear bouncing around in my deck……

One of the properties I mow is the common area at a trailer park. Its about 8 acres of grass that gets cut. The grass there grows very tall. Usually its 8-12 inches tall when i get there, and THICK. Not to mention all the obstacles that hide in that tall thick turf. Id like to see how it does out there. I have hit cinderblocks, construction waste, big rocks, metal parts that have fallen off machinery, and all types of crap that the the local kids leave laying around. Id like to see how these blades and pivot points hold up to a season of mowing that place!

Nice, does them blades make more noise or vibrations?

Can they be made for Honda HRX 217? Highly interested

Disc and swing backs seem to be the standard mower blade here in Australia. Not sure why it’s not more common elsewhere?

Howdy Allyn. Any updates on this product? I too was looking at these and instead went with the Xblade system from Ballard. Just ordered them for my Bad Boy ZTE 60". Three blades and the Xblade bracket was about $145 with tax here in South Carolina. I am going to be using it to cut my 4.5 acres or horse pasture every 2-3 weeks. So 1/3 rule out the door, and in fact I am mostly cutting 8" to 12". I usually need to double cut and I am trying to avoid this as it takes about 3 hours for one cut. I am notoriously unkind to my mower and this Bad Boy "takes a licking and keeps on ticking". With two "standard blades" (one ripper and one razor) x 3 I am thinking its going to be easier to sharpen, but I love how the Meg-Mo's blades retract when they hit something. I am constantly hitting percolating bricks, downed branches, roots and fire ant hills. I have read and viewed that its not recommended to engage the blades at full RPMs, so anyone using the Xblade, and perhaps the Meg-mo, should be engaging the cutter at half or less throttle. Any updates or an X Blade vs Meg-Mo death match in new content would be smokin' Your bud, Jack up der in Aiken, SC.

I'm curious about the harmonics and flex or wobble of the main plates. Example a table saw blade can actually distort at higher rpm.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

the steel disk is pretty thick. I don't know how to estimate thickness but it's for sure got some ass in it lol

Wonder about the lift provided vs OEM.

Allyn, you kind of answered my question, but not completely. Are these blades only for riding mowers or do they make them for any type of mower (walk behind mower, commercial mower, etc.) since they are custom made?

How do they stripe? It doesn’t appear they are “high lift” blades!! Also, does the grass build up on the mower deck the same as regular blades?

I’ve got a simple eXMark Quest. I’m curious about the high lift blades just in general. Does this company make them? I’ve heard high lift blades really help with stripping.

What keeps those bolts from coming loose? Looks like possibly blue thread lock.

My understanding is the ryobi battery ZT rpms more than a residential and commercial ZT. Would the additional weight on an e-motor be too much where a gas motor would handle it. Or would this combination further blow our minds...

I have a toro as well. Do you think they are a good high lift blades? I feel like if they aren't lifting the grass the cut will suffer.

Love the cigar in the video.....yes

Allen, I'd like to hear your opinion on top dressing with compost. I've watched easily over a hundred LCN videos, and have never seen one about that.

Had these on diesel Dixie Chopper, a Bladerunner and a Schweiss mower. The Dixie and the Bladerunner blade speed was too fast for them and the knives would not extend out to cut cleanly leaving a 1" strip of totally uncut grass between the blades. The Schweiss it dogged the engine so bad it would not cut grass taller than 3". Waste of money might be good however on a homeowner or a walk behind mower were you are not into production mowing.

@MegaJavelin1970

2 жыл бұрын

BTW there is another company that makes a similar product made in a triangle and using 3 swing blades. They are made in Chilicothie MO. Never tried them after the meg-mow thing. I have found it better to just stack a standard blade with a gator type works exceptional.

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

@@MegaJavelin1970 thank you for the feedback!! I'm learning alot.

@more536

2 жыл бұрын

I also had these on my Schweiss mower long ago and agree 100% with this statement

Does it effect the blades ability to create suction?

Game changer blades! That's really cool 😎

Their website listed they have blades for tractors. Does that include subcompact tractors. I have the Kubota BX2380 and I think these blades would work great if they fit

How's the noise compared to regular blades

Most push mowers and some ride on mowers in Australia have that setup.

I see your point but isn't it the same concept? first contact followed be a secondary?

Saw the system at the GIE 2 years ago. My only concern is that the blades (knifes) don’t seem very sharp out of the box and being they are so hard, can you get them super sharp? I have sold 2 sets to other people and they both love it!

@Thelawncarenut

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to test it on some thicker grass this Saturday but so far what I have found is that they cut is actually VERY clean. I don't know if it's because of the hardness of the steal or what but for sure, with the blades right out of the box, the cut is like a razor.