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How to play better Eldritch Knight. Step 1: Don't.

@ShadowtheWiz

9 ай бұрын

Facts lmao 😂😂

@iamadog1343

9 ай бұрын

True you need 4 stats at a good state 2 of them are Int and str that are the best dump stats imo

@Firestar4041

9 ай бұрын

EK: :''v

@antoniolorenzo5640

9 ай бұрын

@@iamadog1343 Fun fact, Int doesn't really matter, you just take utility spells like Shield, Featherfall, and Find Familiar. And in the case of this game, just nab that Ogre's headband available at the start of Act 1 to set your Int at 17 with zero investment so you can actually hit with the odd Firebolt here and there. After that, just max Str and get a decent Con, dumping both Dex and Int.

@silverbro13

9 ай бұрын

Eldritch Knight is great with Tavern Brawler builds imo Had a "spearman" type build where I went for Selune's Night Spear and that eventually upgraded to Nyrulna for AOE is actually great. Longstrider(which works on companions also) and Misty Step are features unto themselves pretty much. On top of being able to apply exploration buffs like Enhance Leap without a wizard in the party, not to mention Fog Cloud and Darkness spell situations

Pick Eldritch Knight instead of Champion. The spell slots add up, so for example: 6 Fighter/6 Wizard will be considered a level 8 Wizard when it comes to their spell slots. Those 4th level spells should easily be worth the extra crit chance. In BG3 it is even better since you can scribe 4th level spells from scrolls (which is not the case in DnD).

@matthewlowe2193

9 ай бұрын

In BG3, you can also learn any wizard spell that you have spellslots to cast! So even though you're only a 6th level wizard, you can learn 4th level wizard spells and prepare them.

@renedamasio

5 ай бұрын

Actually PnP rules allows you to scribe spells as Wizard if you multiclass but still got the spell slots. But if you do that your DM surely won't like you xD maybe he won't be upset if you do EK with Wizard cuz it's roughly the same

@theuncalledfor

9 күн бұрын

@@renedamasio Check the multiclass rules for spellcasters. In DnD 5e (which is what I assume you meant by "PnP" since I can't make sense of it otherwise), you treat each spellcasting feature from different classes as fully separate, and you have to basically pretend that you only have the spell slots from the relevant class when using the spellcasting feature. The only exception is actually _casting_ spells, for which you can use any spell slot you actually have. You can upcast a Wizard spell to a higher level than you have Wizard-specific slots for, but you can't scribe or prepare spells above your class-specific abilities. This isn't mentioned in the rules for any of the specific classes, but in the generalized multiclassing rules.

Eldritch knight is already the best eldritch knight. The bound hammer in act 2 is amazing, and you get all the spells you really need. Shield, magic weapon, mirror image and blur

@GeorgisTrying

6 ай бұрын

Except good blasts. Hard to run a fighter with an actually decent blast

@TheTrueArchonFTW

6 ай бұрын

@@GeorgisTrying you just throw your weapon it returns to you.

Actually I did a fun psionic myrmidone with Eldritch Knight: Githyanki for the nice Psionics theme. Bound Weapon on a spear to make it returning, making range attacks a better option than cantrips. Lv4 Tavern Brawler for that +1 Strenght and so your throw is a 1d6+8.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

That spear in the sarcophagus that gives advantage after a miss is SO good for this lol :)

@tomphaa

10 ай бұрын

One of the most ridiculous characters I've made is very similar, Eldritch Knight for the bound weapon, the absolute spear (honestly anything works), ring and the gloves from act 1 for throwing damage and just throwing the spear twice every turn and 4 times with action surge. If you have any highground you can probably remove 2 enemies from the fight before it even really starts. Shield for the free 5 AC if someone hits you, and finish it off with hunters mark for some extra damage when you feel like it. Don't even need INT if you don't pick any spells that have a save or attack rolls.

@icyknightmare4592

10 ай бұрын

You can go even further with this. There is a ring at the Grove and gloves in the Underdark that add 1d4 to throwing damage in Act 1. In Act 2 you can get a spear that does bonus lightning damage when thrown. I used a build like this on Karlach in my first run. EK/Berserker spear thrower damage can get crazy.

@elementual

9 ай бұрын

@@icyknightmare4592look at y'all with your fun builds.

@actuallyjustanapple

9 ай бұрын

Ring of throwing for another 1d4

My favorite EK is full strength and picking up tavern brawler. Since they added returning weapons to Bond you just throw your throwing weapon, it returns to you, you have a familiar, shield and magic missile. At lvl 7 you have 2 feats and enlarge reduce so you could have 20 strength and enlarge yourself to throw anyone who gets too close and huck your spear at anyone who stays far away

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Love the idea of someone growing in size to just yeet someone away Great defense :)

@mythcraft3445

10 ай бұрын

Yea the only way to justify running EK is to utilize their somewhat unique weapon bond ability. Everything else they can do can be emulated the exact same way but better with multiclass combos. On one of my playthroughs having a blast with full send throwing trident build ek

@NickStrife

10 ай бұрын

​@@mythcraft3445 Also, EK will get nore feats..... It really comes down to what you prefer..

@ryopoto55

10 ай бұрын

Grab anyone who gets too close and chuck them at anyone who gets too far.

@booleanillogical4757

9 ай бұрын

Thats pretty nice. I made a similar theowing build with Karlach. I got the returning pike from the merchnat at the goblin camp, the ring of flinging (extra id4 on throw attack) from the druid merchant at the grove, and the gloves of uninhibited kushigo (another 1d4) from a sidequest reward from (slight underdark spoilers?) The mushroom picker merchant in the myconid colony. Along with the beserker subclass and tavernbrawler I now do 1d10+2d4+10(+4 str added twice and +2 from rage) on every throw, not including the bonus crushing dmg you do when throwing from a higher position than ur target. With the barbs bonus action throw and haste from my wizard tav i can throw 5 times per turn.

Wait, so what you're telling me is to pick Champion instead in your Eldritch Knight guide? Amazing lmao.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

And multiclass into divination wizard for spells instead since EK gets shorted on spells

@highclassnetworkhcn2267

9 ай бұрын

​@@FinalParty_this is also fantastic as ypu can get portant dice as well every long rest, you can use these to help your team, or hinder your enemies

@pmarreck

9 ай бұрын

@@FinalParty_EK gets shorted on spells only if you want a battlemage. EK with purely support spells (don’t need chance to hit from INT stat) is SUPER useful, at least until you get the headband aka “eldritch knight band” 😂

@KaiReel23

9 ай бұрын

​@@pmarreckagreed. And EK needs only 3 spells: shield, mirror image and thunderwave. If people want a spell hurling bastard in Armour, they should go cleric.

@MrBertie7

9 ай бұрын

@@FinalParty_ But if you also go EK, then you get even less shorted on spells.

Githyanki I think is an overall better fighter due to the longer jumps, misty step, and Silver Sword of Astral Plane is just best sword in the game when wielded by Gith. 7 eldritch knight for extra attack, War Magic, and a nice array of just-works spells. Then 5 warlock for augmented eld-blast, devil sight, hex, darkness, fireball, pact weapon, and an extra attack with pact weapon. Its a great synergy with Eldritch Knight because you actually get to use a great cantrip AND weapon attack in the same turn, while quad-dipping the hex damage. You don't need any int or strength you can just juice the charisma to the max, which will be your singular damage ability. And you can also get to the enemy, cast darkness on yourself, and just beat the sh** out of stuff with advantage and they get disadvantage, or if they are outside of darkness, cant even target you.

@FinalParty_

9 ай бұрын

Githyankis is such a great race with all their racial buffs

Imagine telling someone to choose Champion over Battlemaster.

@ce5122

7 ай бұрын

instantly made me projectile vomit

@pleasantbones

7 ай бұрын

Only time you should ever pick champion over battlemaster is if you’re multiclassing fighter as rogue for that reduced crit.

@joeythemoose

7 ай бұрын

I love champion 🤷‍♂️

@akitothegeek

7 ай бұрын

Eldrich Knight with a couple of levels into wizard is the way to go

@AndyMacster

7 ай бұрын

More crits with half-orc and savage attacker is beeg dmg especially since you won't be reliant on sneaking in order to crit.

You don't really need the intellect. There's enough spells that doesn't require spell save/attack to make it worth it to forgo it. Shield, protection from good and evil, find familiar, magic missile, create water (lightning setups), longstrider, haste, sleep, false life, etc. Other than class requirements this is the case for tabletop 5e too.

Hey that's my voice! Eventually dive headlong into Divination Wizard for the Portant class feature. Pickup spells like Mirror Image, Blur, Haste, and Enlarge/Reduce.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Need more guides

@epicfailville4091

10 ай бұрын

I like abjucation for that shield that builds up every time you use the shield spell.

@rocksnrolls

10 ай бұрын

@@epicfailville4091 agreed, but just so you know, it's abjuration.

@vermillionranger8558

10 ай бұрын

Slow hits 6 targets

@doodtheman2508

9 ай бұрын

Divination wizard Halfling, and take Lucky. You may now boss around the DM 😂

I tried this, but i realized 9 hits with 5 of them having extra 1d8 damage is much more fun.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Battle master things

@jadenlingerfelt7585

9 ай бұрын

@@FinalParty_it is the better subclass between the two

@timtimothy5405

7 ай бұрын

How did you do that?

@jadenlingerfelt7585

7 ай бұрын

@@timtimothy5405 using maneuvers that add superiority dice to damage, like maneuvering strike

So this isn't an Eldritch Knight, but a meta build to leverage everything except the Class Fantasy of a Warrior who can use magic like a wizard.

@hentaimage95

9 ай бұрын

You would get the exact same spells with EK, the only difference is the returning weapon wich doesnt really make me feel like a warmage. Wizard missed the class identity entirely, theres better ways to play gishes with multiclass than with the class designed for it, i believe this says a lot on how bad 5e is. So happy that dnd one is almost the same, so that they will burn to the ground.

@jasonlu9562

9 ай бұрын

But Eldritch knight in bg3 doesnt really live up to the fantasy of a magical warrior either. On paper its a fighter with magic, but in play it's just a fighter with shield spell and blur. Paladin's various smites matchs the role a lot better, imbues your swords with magic to strike down foes, that's a magical warrior

9 ай бұрын

@@jasonlu9562 I would argue that even ranger is better magic warrior when str based, and also any sword bards are better magic warriors than EK...

@centurion7398

9 ай бұрын

@@hentaimage95 this is some S tier cope bro.

@darkeather2

9 ай бұрын

@ Clerics also make excellent magic warriors. Druid's, even, with shillelagh. Hell, Spores druid is possibly the best commander/death knight archtype in the game with their ability to make minions both with and without using up spell slots.

the amount of throwing support there was had me naturally progress as a pure fighter for 11 levels. And I like the EK because I can build an entire character whos job is to say shield

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Shield is so satisfying. Fun fact, reactions can't be used while under disguise. Found that out while filming this lol

You’d be better off going Battlemaster as opposed to a crit fishing build (which you can offset with items). The average damage increase from the subclass won’t really be that much compared to the consistent damage and utility the maneuvers can give you.

Honestly. The reasons why i like eldritch knight is for all the defensive magicks Dump int. And just grab utility spells. Bonk like a mad man. And have no weakness to Magicks. Shield, absorb element, PfEaG and your pretty much set. Because if your trying to sling spells with int..... just be a wizard

Eldritch knight/ pact of the blade warlock subclass, dual wielding fighting feat and fighting style, main hand weapon is pact bound, and off hand is EK bonded, dual wielding attacks, and a throwable off hand weapon

@CrimsonRane

9 ай бұрын

Was also thinking of doing a frenzy barbarian/eldritch knight, abusing the returning weapon with enraged throw

@FinalParty_

9 ай бұрын

Whoa wait does this work in game?! This sounds sick

@CrimsonRane

9 ай бұрын

@@FinalParty_ it's really fun to use, and versatile, from an assassin with a throwing knife, to a knight with an off hand javelin, plus it lets you benefit from all the throw enhancing items, making for some nasty damage, not even considering poisons or buffs from other team mates

@FinalParty_

9 ай бұрын

@@CrimsonRane oooo all the throwables we tested are feeling juicier

@CrimsonRane

9 ай бұрын

@@FinalParty_ with testing I can confirm this is awesome, I personally love using a trident

Swords Bard Githyanki with one level of Wizard (for scroll learning if you want) and (at least) two in Warlock genuinely feels like how I imagined Eldritch Knight to be just hearing the name. Great casting options, good martial abilities, great party face.

I think ACTUAL Eldritch Knight is slept on a bit hard in this game. It synergizes exceptionally well with a couple things. 1. The ring of Arcane Synergy which grants arcane synergy (adds your spell casting modifier to damage rolls in addition to the usual damage modifier) when you cast a cantrip. Since Eldritch knight can cast a cantrip then attack with a bonus action at later levels, it's exceptionally easy to set up. Then, when you get your 3rd attack, you hit like a fucking truck (on the following turn.) 2. This is the big one. The infernal rapier. You get this by having Wyll with you when you rescue Mizora in act 2 and pass a few checks. It's really easy to miss so save before hand if you're not on honour mode. It's a +2 weapon that scales with your spell casting modifier if its higher than STR or DEX, allowing you to completely dump strength. Pump Int to twenty, then with Arcane Synergy, your attacks will do a guaranteed +10 on each hit. With action surge, and 3 attacks, that's a guaranteed 60 damage on hit not including the typical damage roll. Infernal Rapier also has a built in Cambion Summon. It can get even dumber, since you can also have a shield and you can use the Arcane Syngery Head piece (forget the name) that activates Arcane synergy when granting a condition to an enemy. Shield Bash counts as a condition, there are armors that grant conditions when the wearer is hit, there are gloves that make your enemy stinky when they take acid damage, etc. So if you don't like the cantrip setup, this way is just as consistent if you're clever with armor choices and of course, spell choices. Arcane Synergy and the Infernal Rapier are nutty on any caster build that wants to do melee. It worked really well on my spore druid battle master fighter multi class build too. But there is definitely an extra tasty synergy with pure Eldritch Knight. There's even more that I didn't mention since this is a wall of text, but yeah.

That boy needs Great Weapon Master. Getting a bonus action attack on crit/kill with a melee weapon is insanely good and applies to all melee weapons (not hit Great Weapons, ironically). This also makes it the S-tier choice for Astarion/assassin rogues.

@florreke1990

Ай бұрын

I fully agree, rogue assassin fighter champion multiclass with great weapon master, savage attacker and phalar aluve to still use sneak attack is hilarious!

What I find amazing is a lot of builds I'm finding for balders gate 3 are very similar to character builds for D&D 5e back in the early 2010s before all the extra books. The main difference is that the gith are available for character creations we didn't have back then.

@deffdefying4803

8 ай бұрын

in fairness baldur’s gate 3 IS d&d, just in a videogame format and with quality of life tweaks to the ruleset. so there’s gonna be a lot of overlap between character builds.

Ek to me is just a fighter that uses spells that don’t need intelligence like shield or magic missiles.

@Syruzak

7 ай бұрын

Yup, and later on things like Blur and Misty Step.

Gauntlets of hill giant strength. The necklace that makes your con very high. The cloak that makes you crit on 1 point lower than 20 (it does stack)

@dannyacevedo174

6 ай бұрын

Same with the bow. All you need to do is have it equipped. Not in your hand. Thats a crit on 17 and up. 20% crit chance

Ita better to choose eldrich knight as a wizard fighter multi. You get access to higher level wizard spell slots. And can copy spell scrolls into your book to use them. 5 levels eldrich knight for extra attack then the rest in wizard subclass of choice. You also dont need any inteligence if you stick to defencive/utility spells and magic missile Edit: to quell the comments about it. Yes fighter 6 is optimal. But. Id argue the 6th level of fighter is best taken once youve reached atleast wizard lv 5.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Worth it just to learn new spells from scrolls and higher level spells :) Circlet makes it nice to do some spell dmg though

@ayatan2147

10 ай бұрын

Literally any subclass is better than champion

@Copperscaled

10 ай бұрын

5 EK / 7 Wizard is not ideal as you're only getting 1 spellslot level out of fighter and 7th level of wizard gives you next to nothing (arcane recovery boost only). if you do a 6/6 split instead you would get 2 spellslots of fighter and 6 of wizard (total is 8 either way) and you'd get a feat for fighter 6 instead of arcane recovery boost, which is a better deal in my opinion.

@Smoji069

9 ай бұрын

6 levels Eldritch knight 6 levels abjuration wizard. Use glyph because you have so much utility and get free bonus hp. The only problem is there are like no good lvl2 abjuration spells

@PatheticApathetic

9 ай бұрын

If you’re gonna take a multi class fighter to 5, you may as well go to 6. The biggest benefit of multiclassing into Fighter is you can get the extra attack, and STILL get all 3 feats

I would recommend picking Defense fighting style over Great Weapon Fighting. The latter gives you an almost negligible damage increase, while 1 more AC can make quite a lot of difference, especially if you have access to shield, or other additional AC boosts. An increase to AC matters more the higher your AC is, so if you wear regular plate armor and have Defense, you have a resting AC of 19, which you can boost to 24 with shield, if necessary. That should make it quite hard to hit you. If you're going for damage, pick Great Weapon Master at level 4 of fighter. A +10 on damage on attacks with two handed weapons is a considerable difference in damage output and to make up for the -5 to hit, pick Battle Master as your fighter subclass and pick up Precision Strike. You can now use your battle maneuver dice to add 1d8 to your to hit rolls, increasing your to hit rate by an average of 22.5% if my maths isn't wrong. At fighter level 5 you can use action surge to attack 4 times in the first turn of combat, dealing an average of 7 (2d6 greatsword or maul) +3 (16 strength) +10 (GWM) damage, so an average of 20 per hit, plus things like weapon bonus etc. Or, even better, play a dex based fighter, follow the same steps but pick up sharpshooter at level 4. Use any ranged weapon you want, but a heavy crossbow will do the most damage, until you find two hand crossbows. Equip a hand crossbow in each hand and do the same thing as before, but now you don't have to be in melee to deal damage and can attack enemies much more consistently, since you don't need to close in so much. Additionally, you can now use a bonus action to fire an additional shot per turn. If you stick to one level in wizard, that's 6 attacks, with action surge, in the first round, boosted by your battle maneuver dice, which should be a d10, by now, so even better. Additionally, pick archery as your fighting style to get an additional +2 to hit, and suddenly you can shoot 7 times in the first round of combat dealing slightly less damage per shot than if you went for a greatsword, but you are able to attack more reliably, hit more reliably and fire more often, giving you the best of all worlds. Plus, since you won't spend so much time in melee, you will be attacked much less often, and won't even need to cast Shield, most of the time. Alternatively, pick Eldritch Knight for additinal spell slots, spells and the weapon bond. All can be helpful in different ways.

How i made my eldritch knight: 1. EK 5, spore druid 4, assassin 3 2. 4 auto-crit throws at advantage before haste/bloodlust 3. fog cloud + hide 4. lather, rinse, repeat

In bg3, the best gish is paladin 2, wizard 1, the rest swordsbard. Access to tons of spells, 2 attacks, smites, and bard is a full caster so many, many spell slots.

5 levels into Fighter to pick up Eldritch Knight, Tavern Brawler, and Extra Attack. 4 levels into Barbarian to pick up Berseker for the Frenzy Throw and War Caster. 3 levels into Rogue for Thief’s Fast Hands. Gear: ring and gauntlets that improve thrown weapons, bow and helm that give access to Hunter’s Mark, Adamantine Heavy Armor and Adamantine Shield. Nyrulna. With this build you get 4 thrown weapon attacks, 6 with Action Surge, per turn. Hunter’s Mark, the gauntlets, the ring, and the weapon all give bonuses to your damage while your heavy armor and reeling prevent you from being hit often and War Caster makes you better able to hold Concentration on Hunter’s Mark.

@FinalParty_

9 ай бұрын

What a solid combo, time to hunt down this gear lol

@VangolaGear

9 ай бұрын

@@FinalParty_ cool thing is, most the gear is obtainable in the first act

My eldritch knight build really only starts swinging at level 7, but it's basically great weapon master eldritch knight till level 7 to get the war magic feature, picking up true strike, blade ward, longstrider, magic missile, and shield. Then all levels remaining into warlock (which is on point obviously) and dumping strength and int, going full charisma and picking up eldritch blast, both the eldritch invocations, and crucially, pact of the blade. Since we don't actually make int checks, we can dump int, and as our level hits 12 we gain pact of the blade extra attack. This basically puts us at the level of or even exceed the typical pure fighter at level 12, since we still get triple attack and a bunch of spells similar to manuevers, and make a damn flavorful build to boot.

I did a build like this. Went 7 levels in fighter/5 in wizard(abjuration specialty, srcane ward is amazing for tanks)War caster, tough, and heavy armor master helped make an incredible shield/sword tanky battlemage. Made a 23+ ac tank in act 2 with high dmg resistance. Ability to concentrate on a lot of aoe or buff spells.

@FinalParty_

9 ай бұрын

Love this! We went divination wizard for better rolls but this seems tanky af

@xenosayain1506

9 ай бұрын

@@FinalParty_ my idea waa a tank for the party. His damage is low unfortunatly. 8 to 20 per melee swing(2 melee swings or centripetal plus melee. I usually go shocking grasp for arcane synergy(adds int modifier to my melee weapon) and swing it around while harassing. then He just has great battlefield control, and damage resistance. Can learn up to level 4 spells and do well in most situations. Goading attack on stronger foes to keep em away from dps and it works. Haste, Blur, blade ward, glyph of warding, and glyph are main stays. Toss in cloud of daggers and fireball and it works. Combined with headband of intellect it gets no downside to using int abilities while being a fighter with high str/constitution.

I would choose battle master instead of champion, i think superiority dice are way better than +5% crit

@pmarreck

9 ай бұрын

Tell me you didn’t roll a half orc pally without telling me you didn’t roll a half orc pally

@snake698

9 ай бұрын

I think you just haven't played battle master man hahaha@@pmarreck

@pmarreck

9 ай бұрын

@@snake698 Battle Master: Can be used only a few times every rest, but sure, they're fun for that. Crits: Can occur in literally every fight, forever. Half Orc Crits: Triple damage. There's an elixir that lowers crit threat range by 1 which stacks with Champion and lasts until the next long rest. Now you're critting for triple damage on any 17-20 roll. With a 2-hander usually. Great Weapon Master: Extra attack on enemy kill or crit. Any prone, stunned or frozen condition: Automatic crits from within 3m. So you take 6 levels of Fighter to get Champion, 2 feats and an extra attack, then take 6 levels of, say, Paladin (even more massive crit damage) or Zerker Barb (THROW. ALL. THE THINGS. Which also applies Prone.) or, hell, Spore Druid. Any class that can incapacitate to trigger more crits. Do you see where this is going yet? I'll tell you where it's going. Straight to Crit City, population "not you"! LOL There are boots that make it impossible for you to slip and fall on grease or icy surfaces. You can imagine how useful standing in the middle of a Grease puddle would be in that case, lol (at least until the AI tosses fire your way). (Almost) everybody falls down, everybody gets crit, endless attacks per round...

@snake698

9 ай бұрын

You're splitting your gameplan into passive easier crits and auto crit fishing tho, which are antisynergic as they both serve the same purpose. Battle master does the prone thing for the auto crit fishing, which was what I was going for. But anyhow battle master excels at versatility, people usually get to like battle masters because of the sanenigans they discover while playing them. Like using trip attack with a longbow against a demon that's 20m up in the air, and specially in the build for the video with a wizard dip battlemaster is great (basically shield and riposte together make you the best tank)@@pmarreck

@florin-alexandrustanciu5643

9 ай бұрын

@@pmarreck actually i did roll a half orc paladin, but I just don t crit often enough to have patience to keep my spelslots until then, normal smites do the job pretty well if the enemy is not some kind of boss, waiting to crit just to get one on a fuckin 7 health goblin is driving me insane. While battle master laezel can consistently kill high health enemies with 4 trip attacks that recharge on a short rest or kill 5 normal enemies in one turn. I get that some of you just got so lucky that you killed the beholder in one attack and then never went back but you are the exception

You don't get acess to pact weapons this way, but Divination wizard nets you more potential Crit setups. 3s and 19s are my most common Divination numbers 😂

I have Laezel as an Eldritch Knight and shes the best member on my team. Lvel two utility spells aren't bad. Casting darkness support my warlocks, enlarge/reduce and blur have been incredibly effective.

Eldritch knight plus abjuration wizard for the tankiest mf you've ever seen. Take magic intiate warlock and slap warding bond on yourself and have fun killing every single person wbo touches you in melee.

@Marsawd

7 ай бұрын

Fuck, THIS is what I was trying to figure out. You've perfected my build for a tank (took 2 Paladin levels for Compelled Duel).

This isn't an Edritch Knight build, it's a battle mage build.

That's pretty smart and then you get the wizard passive to learn the spells through scrolls too

The best way to play an Eldritch knight is to download the bladesinger wizard mod + 5E spell list for booming blade and the enjoyment level is literally 10x

There’s plenty of items that can actually make Eldritch Knight work.

Ooooh you’ve come a long way. This is very well optimized.

Going Champion is wild lmao. Just go EK so you get higher level spell slots

@FinalParty_

2 ай бұрын

The reason we multiclass wizard is for higher level spell slots. EKs only get 2nd level spells. 7 levels into wizard grants us 4th level spells.

This is how I’ve been building my EKs mostly. I don’t bother with damage spells, just utility and ritual spells/self buffs. Can’t be resisted and frees my other casters up for damage.

@omniXenderman

9 ай бұрын

My logic with magically enhanced martial characters is that the weapon is what does the damage anyway, the magic is for, well....enhancing, what do I need shocking grasp or burning hands for when a claymore can do more damage in a turn anyway? Guys too far away? Longstrider and misty step, a group? Darkness

@deffdefying4803

8 ай бұрын

@@omniXendermani can see an edge case being made for shocking grasp if you somehow find yourself in dire need of shutting someone’s opportunity attacks down to get away safely while still dealing damage. but this is assuming a lot of things, like how you’d ever manage to get in such a situation.

@omniXenderman

8 ай бұрын

@@deffdefying4803 yeah you have to screw up extra special to need touch spells as a melee fighter

@omniXenderman

8 ай бұрын

@@deffdefying4803 now you COULD sell me on a projectile spell, and I'd buy it

Really fun Gish character would be vengeance paladin/GOO warlock with pact of blade/sorcerer You get less stats to focus on Your attacks use charisma, your spells use charisma and you still are a really good tank/damage character with some interesting roleplay If you want a more flavor based combo: Archfey warlock/ancients paladin/wild magic sorcerer For that real fey wild vibe Vengeance and fiend subclass goes well with draconic bloodline too

Once you get higher pure fighter is better. Eldrich knight, and Wizard feat. Have pure Fighter spec gets you to triple attack faster. you can also find an armor with Blade warding on it as a permanent ability.

Out of the 3 fighter classes to go for, e knight just isn't it.

@Zerosblade13

Ай бұрын

Depends. Champion is for crit build. At end game PCs can crit on a 14 Battle Master for aggro PCs E-knight is for defensive fighter. Better sustainability. An all arounder. Shield comes in clutch

@Cruddyhorse

Ай бұрын

It's literally fine lol, did Eldritch Fighter for my first(and successful) honor mode playthrough and never had an issue. You just have to understand that you're a fighter with better defensive capabilities + the ability to turn ANY weapon into a returning one and you become a great skirmisher-archetype.

Very funny seeing conversations that were hashed the better part of a decade ago come back up because of BG3.

Big brain guide 🧠

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

More incoming

i made a two weapon fighter eldritch knight, paired with the dual wielder feat, this plus haste with true strike and action surge? hell yeah

The base Eldritch Knight is fine buy I agree half orc is good

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Ogryns are like orcs :)

Thats actually pretty fuckin smart. Like, NO spell slots, but you can still Action surge fireball once you learn it I guess

You would probably be done quicker by pact of the blade, great old one, warlock. Your patron would be the dream visitor, they act like one already. Even better if you go all in on the illithid powers. Lots of Gish magic.

EK's honestly need variant human and fey touched imho 😅

Fighter 2/College of Swords Bard 10 for a tanky melee build that can easily hit 26 AC by Act 1, drop Silence domes to stop those pesky casters, and give your party enough ways of either grouping up enemies for your casters or peeling for your more fragile members in the back lines.

one of things that would make Eldrich knight great is if its weapon bound ability would add the "throw modifier" to the weapon you are using, would really make the class more useful for endgame.

Honestly I have a friend who made a githyanki specifically to have Bonus dmg and uses the bind weapons feature to throw his weapon it’s really strong but I have to say that we play the game Modded

7 Ek/ 5 wizard with offhand spell sparkler and main hand weapon bond EK lightning mace from Damon act 2 and a bit of lightning charge gear. Swap out spell sparkler in act 3 for the legendary Markoheshkir staff

I do enjoy that extra “Uhhhhhhhhh”.

Honestly for just a general spellsword build, I feel like a school of swords/valor bard plus warlock is better. Can use all armor but heavy, and while it's limited to dual wielding or dueling fighting styles, if you sacrifice high level spells to have at least 6 levels sword bard and 5 levels pact of the blade warlock you get 3 main hand attacks each turn without bonus action or any other support effects. Pair that with duelists perogative in act 3 and you get 4 attacks with your bonus action

I would be a gith yanki because they have inherent psionic abilities that grant them the same things pretty much. You can get shield as a spell and get an invisible mage hand as well as a free misty step for free at level 4 I believe.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Honestly, githyankis have the best passives for a race in this game So much utility in misty step alone

Eldritch Knights best ability is bonded weapon, pick ability score increase with strength and then tavern brawler (which adds strength modifier to throw damage and increases strength by 1). At level 6, you can now turn a 1d6 have axe into 1d6+10 hand axe at range with a near guaranteed chance to hit, twice because you have an extra attack. Then you simply bond with the best thrown weapon you can find, there's some good spears that can be thrown.

For a good tank build, a 2 level dip into Abjuration Wizard gives you some proper bonkers defensive capabilities.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Oooo that's interesting! We were thinking divination wizard for this

@biggiecheese2004

10 ай бұрын

You can’t do that, you miss the extra attack at 11 fighter and that is a massive power spike

@vermillionranger8558

10 ай бұрын

​@@biggiecheese2004I guess it's opinion but I think being almost invulnerable is superior to 1 extra attack.

@omniXenderman

9 ай бұрын

​@@vermillionranger8558almost invulnerable probably once or twice, compared to ALWAYS being able to attack again

All these things, but two in wizard for scroll learnin’. Get blur and shield. Then all the cold encrusted frost equipment: mourning frost staff, winters clutches etc. Get ice knife and ray of frost and finally, Nere’s boots so you you dont slip on the ice you create. Frozen knight build.

I do EK all the wayto 12 i use 2 maces that add poision using gear that when you poision an enemy get 1d4 healing and then the other item that when you heal you get bless for 2 turns every attack is plus 1d4 heal amd bless , also use when using cantrip adds prof number to damage . Eldrich strike after weapon attack enemy has disadvantage on spell save plus war magic that get weapon attack as bonus action after a spell plus with improved extra attack get all spells and cantrips that do damage .

Eldritch Knight 5 / Wizard 7 Abjuration. Go dueling with a shield have shield spell and just be tanky and utility

the real answer to better EK: bow. dump in to 8 and run 16 17 dex 14 con, get the int headbands, ring of arcane synergy, daredevil gloves (they do work and raise spell atk by +1, it just doesn't show on your spell atk tooltip), melfs 1st staff, eventually Kethric's shield, Titanstring bow etc. you get bow attacks adding +str+dex+int, eventually you will run ogre power instead of daredevil and actually boost int a bit, with ethel you only need 1 ability boost into dex for 20, if you spend 2 feats on spell sniper for Eldritch Blast and sharpshooter for sharpshooter you can still boost int up to 18. you can put some big pp ranged damage out while having access to good utility spells.

Fighter1/Warlock5 pact of the blade. Heavy armor up and bind weapon of your choice. EB for long ranged issues and misty step to close gaps. Spells reset on short rest so incentivizes using them instead of waiting on boss encounters.

I'm actually doing a Eldritch knight warlock.

You can instead of dumping str, get a finesse longsword, dump dex con, use that to get get warped headband and elixir of hill giant that set to 21 and in act 3 elixir of cloud giant that set str to 27. There is also club of hill giant in act 1 that sets your str to 19 but thats a 1 handed weapon. Later in act 3 there are some great items that set set str and con to 23

Unfortunately the amount of spells you can "memorize for the day" is tied to your base INT and not the modded no° the tiara gives, I tried doing that with my wiz

The damn gif made me yell.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Ahahaha sorry 😔 we thought it was fitting though lol

EK has been my fav class in BG3. Ofc there are classes that do more burst dmg, offer better control etc but i just love how the class plays. People have a lot of misconception of BG3's EK i feel like. They expect a close range fighter that can throw spells etc as well. Thats more of a pact of the blade playstyle imo. EK doesnt even need more than 8 int. The spells it takes are stuff like shield, blur, longstrider, enhanced leap that boost tankiness and offer utility or mobility. Magic missle is fine to take since it doesnt have an attck role. The big issue with EK tho is missing the blade cantrips like greenflame blade or booming blade. (Mods exist tho). That wud make the class a hell lot better coz u can use those and make another weapon attck with war magic. Tho EK11 gets 3 attcks so war magic becomes more of a situational skill later even with the bakde cantrips. Ofc, u can multi into wiz and get your own haste spell The strongest EK build wud probably be the weapon bond, tavern brawlee throwing build

Eldritch knight and wiz aint bad tbh. You get a lot of spellslots and can cast haste. Its not as bursty as some others, but its very convenient. You dont have to rest nearly as nuch since youll get many times to cast haste, plus you can cast a lot of knocks and misty steps for convenience. I dont like to rest alot. I like lote of sustain due to slow load times for long resting so i prefer longer lasting builds.

instead you could go EK to 7 for war magic, thief for fast hands, spell sniper for EB and then sylvan scimitar or infernal rapier and misty step around the battlefield, casting cantrips and using 3 melee attacks every round like an actual eldritch knight

two weapon fighting style, big old beard, long sword in one had quarterstaff in the off hand, name yourself gandalf.

I wouldn't go with champion since you can crit with stuff like hold person much more reliably. Battle Master gives you a lot of useful abilities that spells can't. Also ritual spells can be done with a camp wizard/cleric. And focus on control spells since your weapon should be the main damage source.

Played through the game with throwing build eldritch knight and another playthrough with berserker barbarian, and honestly the eldritch knight was just as good. Less damage is balanced by way more ac and shield spell. I played battlemaster on my second playthrough and had to respec because it was so much weaker than EK.

11 Eldritch Knight 1 Wizard: - Access to Lv3 spells > Fireball - Still getting 3 Attacks per turn

@Drekromancer

9 ай бұрын

Huge

@getoveryourself2212

9 ай бұрын

what how’d you get access to fireball with with level 1 wizard? unless that comes from EK, then nvm

@agentkido

9 ай бұрын

Lol this is still only level 2 spell slots 💀 U need 2 into wizard to get LVL 3 slots.

start 2 fighter is good, but take warlock instead for eldritch blast and hex, then go 3 into warlock for pact of blade to use spellcasting instead of strength for melee. triple spec into paladin for 2 smites per short rest this build absolutely pumps. you trade the wizard utility for a bit more synergistic damage. could also forgo paladin and just more into fighter like u suggest in vid. dont need more then 3 or 5 in warlock since eldritch blast scales just on character level

EK 7/Wiz 5 (Div for minmax, Evo for more flavour) is the way to go.

I’d start with the dexterity. You can get the headband so early anyway (also by the time you go into wizard you’d have it easily)

Savage attack can only be used on one of your attacks. Not all of them.

You play Eldrich Knight to bind your weapon and get tavern brawler for a throwing build.

It’s fan also you can get something similar with 5warlock and 7wizard-abjuration! By game mechanic you are a chad with unlimited ward reductions (14) and can attack twice with your weapon! Also have a lot of spells and cantrips… By lore you are actually a powerful magician who use their magic to get strenght and fightning attributes! 🧐 Btw Eldritch knight also have some fun skills and item supports!

Funny my eldritch knight is 2 Pally 4 warlock 6 paladin dumping strength and Dex for all charisma and con

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Can't go wrong with Eldritch blast lol 😂

Go EK instead. Higher level slots definitely more valuable. Plus you can used thrown weapons which have a ton of boosters early on.

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Tons of fun throwing your weapon but we wanted something stronger in the spellcasting department for range :)

1 dip in wiz work for literally any build, learning stuff from scrolls is broken.

if you're playing an Eldritch Knight and not focusing on throwing you're doing it wrong. Tavern Brawler, Ring of Fling, Gloves of unhibitted, lightning jabber = strx2 + 1 + 7d4 + 1d6 damage every throw. Eld Knight 6, Frenzy Barb 3, Thief 3 = 4 attacks dealing an average of 39 per throw.

But you are missing attacks for not having 20 str, so I'd add mentioning the str elixirs, or aunt Ethel and the +2 are potion

@FinalParty_

10 ай бұрын

Not a bad choice if you want to focus on your weapon skills instead of spells

how to play a better eldritch knight in bg3 1: mod the game so war caster is how it is in dnd 5e 2: booming blade 3: cause fear congrats ! booming blade on hit bonus action attack. have another party member cause fear on the bastard. they run get hit with 1d8 for moving. reaction hit with booming blade 1d8 on hit+since they are still moving 1d8 for moving. total your doing around 4d8 a round if not more cause of the eldritch knight attack after casting a spell feature

Best Eldritch Knight build, to completely melt everything in the game and I mean obliterate the game. First do not use one weapon it’s tempting but since they ruined large weapon damage in 5E and you need a feat to dual wield two long swords stay away from them and use the short swords. Spec Dex main instead of of str ( secondary), for the AC bonus and weapon finesses find the smugglers ring early and now you won’t need a rogue, for the entire game. Most of the Game you will use The Graceful Cloth for its permanent cats grace and increase to dex by 2. Cast mage armor and if your dex is 20 your ac should be around 20-21 ( in cloth). This will make you a serious thief with no thief skills. You can play around during this time with 5 levels champion and 3 levels mage. Then at 8th respec Erdrich Knight. Cantrips , fire bolt, True Strike, lvl1 Fog cloud, Mage armor, thunder wave, Magic Missile, second level shatter, scorching ray, misty step* ( very important to have). For your last 4 levels spec Thief at third level you get an extra bonus action with fast hands. Now you do 4/1 attacks and if hasted it’s like 6/1 and you can action surge and take a potion of speed. 8/1. We are talking mayhem. Plus with certain gear you can use sneak attack a lot or not it won’t matter. End game get rid of cloth armor for Armor of Agility. I’d use Legacy if the masters gloves, though there is a bug on ps5 that messes with its stats I’m +17 to hit but sometimes it drops to 13 so be mindful some time un-equipping gloves and helm fix it. Definitely use Amulet if Greater health and you will be a beast. End weapons Crimson Mischief, knife of the Undermountain King, Gontr Mael ( super important for haste, but there’s another bow that gives Haste as well, must have) rings Burnished Ring, Ring of Regen, Sarevok’s Horned Helm, Shade Slayer Cloak. My end stats are 16 20 23 10 6 8. The armor balance out the negative penalties I would have got from, weakened Wisdom. There’s a lot of extra little things on my guy that make him a death machine but that’s more spoiler shit that I won’t get into. My race is Drow for easier dialog options and my background is criminal to help with the rogue actions. The cunninging actions dash and fast hands are why you spec theif the sneak attack is niche, but you won’t need it you will be melting things. Hint make sure you Wizard or Sorcerer always have a haste on them. Best classes with this build a cleric life domain, a Paladin Oath of Vengeance, and a wizard (Gale) you can switch Gale out for any other class especially if you have the bow with haste on it. Nothing will stand in your way. I’ve destroyed every fight I’m at the elder brain now. Easy Peasy this is the best multi class build especially if you normally play, fighter, mage, thief. Which I do and this is how I got around the 5E nerf to multiclass.

No thanks, I'm having fun with my normal Eldritch Knight build by just being...well....an Eldritch Knight?

Can't wait to play this on Xbox when it finally comes out

@Austin011

6 ай бұрын

The time has come!

The fighter subclasses power level really depend on how much you long rest. EK get alot, BM wants short rest, champion doesn't care

the only way i could justify eldritch knight would be for a tavern brawler throw build, as it effectively turns all weapons into returning weapons

I got really excited when I read about the War Magic feature on the wiki since it says you can make a weapon attack after casting a cantrip. Turns out though you don't get your Extra Attack on that one, despite the wording making it sound like you should.

@FinalParty_

9 ай бұрын

It lets you take an attack with a bonus action but you don't gain extra attack at 5.

Hell yeah

I mean honestly just go for dual wield bardlock it has the melee potential, ranged potential, 9 levels as a full caster, and actual good spells.

Respecting based on gear bonuses is so underrated. The strength elixir replaced my strength stat 😂

I download Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous and play a Bloodrager so spells fly out of me when I get mad

so dont put any points into strength and just use giant strength potion or only put enough to get necessary feats.

Get that necklace that sets your con to 23 and dump those points into something fun