We were still wearing the Blue version of this when I joined the R.A.F. in 1973! Personally I hated them,uncomfortable and a pig to keep 'Parade' Sharp at Swinderby,14 creases in all if memory still intact!A particular peeve for me was (that being a 'big' Lad for my age) I was often detailed to open/close hanger doors which entailed using a large crank handle.Every time I did the strain on the buttons that connected the 'Blouse' to the Trousers at the rear would result in their ripping through the button holes and require an awful lot of stiching up,that ate into essential NAAFI times in the evening!The 'New ' No.2 dress was superior material but the 'Blouse' was like something 'International Rescue's Thunderbirds' would have worn and being on joint Fleet Air Arm Base at times we took intense 'Flak' from the F.A.A. 'Matelots'!

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

BD was seriously outdated by the '70s. Mind you I'm not sure the '72 Pattern 'Thunderbird' suit was really a suitable replacement!

@105alatorre

Жыл бұрын

@@RiflemanMoore do you plan on making a video on denim uniforms?

Great video as usual. Find the whole story of British battledress fascinating The Osprey book on the subject is great.

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I plan to do a video, or videos at some point in the future detailing the whole scope of battledress development.

Really Helpful. Answered so many questions for my new re enacting involvement Thanks !

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

No worries, glad you found it useful!

Rifleman Moore your are a font of useful information thanks

another informative video.

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it informative.

Very helpful, thank you. Please do a video on the denim uniforms if you have examples. Cheers.

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Something for the future, certainly.

@scottchristie625

5 жыл бұрын

Your videos have helped me a lot as I am indeed an amateur here in the States but have been collecting pattern 37 web gear for years and would like to add uniforms and other field gear to my collection.

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

I'm very glad they've been of use!

Just wondering, my great grandfather was in the Shropshire liggt infantry and i was wondering what battledress he wouls have wore? The 1930s one or the 1940s one? He was in the army from the 1930s so I'm not sure if he was reissued any new uniform to replace his old one.

What’s the biggest difference between with the 1946 pattern? Doesn’t seem to be a huge amount out there in the web...

Great video.. Quick newbie question: can an original South African 1940 pattern Jacket be used for British reenacting or is the colour completely different?

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

As I remember South African made BD is very similar in shade but the quality of manufacture tends to give it away.

Thank you for this video, rifleman. :-)

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Most welcome!

Thanks, have you ever done a ww2 north Africa British army uniform video? Nice to meet you at the victory show 😁👍

I have a genuine 1940 pattern BD blouse (says 1940 pattern on the label). Lined collar, concealed buttons, pocket pleats but it has the early 37 pattern type buckle. I presume the manufacturer was simply using up stocks of older buckles?

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely there will be some cross over of such components between patterns.

Could you make or recommend a video on where the patchs should be placed on the jacket for regular army paras so on

Excellent video as always, my question is how you store and care for your collection?

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Many thanks! At present the BD is boxed, in the future I'd like to keep it hung up. Regular checks for signs of moths or other pests are essential, along with mothballs and other preventative measures.

@morasboy

3 жыл бұрын

@@RiflemanMoore I personally use chestnut´s in the wardrobe for moth prevention. Just need to replace them once a year...

They might be itchy but they were warm when wet and hard wearing most people wore shirts underneath the battle dress

how about the post-war ones? I still have no idea how to differ them

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

That's a topic for another video.

Does the uniforms change in colour as the war progressed?

I seem to have an odd mix and match one? its has 4 commando shoulder titles and is a odd deep green

I own a reproduction P37 Battledress blouse and I'm looking for proper buttons to replace the incorrect ones any ideas where to look for them

I would wear this in the 80 ies as a kid playing war. With a wooden stengun. The Dutch army would wear this untill the late 60 ies.

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Battledress was still on issue to the British Army until the very early '60s but not these patterns.

@rockywr

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiflemanMoore 1971 issued B.D. trousers for Drill on thursday mornings - to Army Apprentices at Harrogate until around April 72 when denims were used instead and no more B.D. thank god. I bet you've got enough stuff by now to open your own museum ?

were patterns mixed? like austerity pattern trousers and 1940 pattern blouse?

Good evening. Did the British parachute brigade exclusive use the 1940 pattern or did they also use the one from 1937? Kind regards, Tim Buruma

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean the Parachute Regiment?

@TimDutch

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiflemanMoore yes. I actually had a question on top of that, if there where furthur differences between the glider and parachute troops.

Where can I get the basics for a British ww2 impression that ships to the U.S.? I'm having trouble finding some for some reason

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

I can't really advise on that I'm afraid, there's no one-stop-shop for kit really, if you want to end up with a decent setup.

@Andyb2379

3 жыл бұрын

Solider of fortune or epic Militaria

Had a repro 37 battledress trousers had to replace brass buttons inside with plastic ones where braces were due to buttons coming off whist wearing the trousers with braces on.

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

It depends on the level of accuracy you want to maintain but I'd suggest sticking with brass buttons. That's what they had on early BD, not plastic, adding some extra reinforcing stitching usually does the trick. As I said in the video there is no '1937 Pattern', do you mean Battledress, Serge?

@Darrenbatteson.531

5 жыл бұрын

40 pattern

@thra5herxb12s

4 жыл бұрын

The cheaply made brass buttons on repro uniforms are very sharp and rip the stitches to bits. A bit sad I know, but I took all mine off and sanded them smooth. The originals were probably tumbled in a drum to round off the edges.

what microphone are you using?

Good evening Rifleman Moore. I was wondering if you could help? Is this list accurate for item's you would have been issued in the mid 40s 1942/43. BD serge trousers & blouse Boots, ankle Shoes, canvas Anklests, web FS cap / GS cap Cap comforter Mk2 Brodie helmet Drawers cellular/woollen Vets woollen Socks worsted Shirt, wool Jersey / pullover Overalls denim, Blouse and trousers Greatcoat Gloves knitted Braces Clasp knife ID disks AB 64 pay book Holdall - ( laces, comb, toothbrush, razor, shaving brush ) Housewife (fitted) Soap Towel Enamelled mug KFS Emergency ration Mess tins & cover Anti-Gas cape Ground sheet / rain cape Webbing belt Braces x2 Bayonet frog, scabbard and bayonet Basic pouch x2 Haversack Pack 1908 Supporting straps x2 Shoulder straps x2 Entrenching tool & carrier Water bottle & carrier Many thanks

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

I'll double check and get back to you! I have noticed you've posted a lot of such comments on videos which isn't a problem but a better place to get in touch with me to ask would be on the channel's FB page! facebook.com/RiflemanMoore/ If it's possible for you to contact me there?

@thebuffs3794

5 жыл бұрын

@@RiflemanMoore thank you for the reply ! Sorry to keep bombarding you with questions. Unfortunately I do not have a Facebook account, although I do have Email. My email address is TheBuffs1943@aol.com , i hope this helps.

Any other alternatives to buying original British or repro like Greek or Dutch, I dont really have the money for British or repro. How similar are the Greek/Dutch BD to the British?

What about the denims?

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

That's a topic for another video.

What was difference between infantry uniform and commando uniform ?

@mickwarnie8707

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing except insignia and prefered head gear

I have a p37 where it has a p37 buckle, early brass buttons, flat shoulder board buttons, and every that a p37 would... but it has a lined collar. I’m confused on when it would have been produced.

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

It isn't a 1937 Pattern, as said in the video there is no such thing! Even if the label is missing there should be a W ^ D and letter stamp which will indicate the year.

@TheSexhaver2625

4 жыл бұрын

Rifleman Moore I own a lot of original feldblouses but I’m brand new to battle dresses, this is the original link if you could help me identify it www.selles-military-antiques.com/e-shop/grande-bretagne/vetements/6712-blouson-battledress-pattern-37-taille-12-anglais.html Thank you so much if you could.

@TheSexhaver2625

4 жыл бұрын

Rifleman Moore the label is worn off and there is no visible “W^D” to indicate the date any wear on the battle dress

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

That is a bit concerning, there should definitely be an acceptance stamp. The thing to do would be to compare it to a 1940 Pattern and see if the cut, set of the pockets etc. is slightly different. That would help determine if it's a BD Serge, with a lining added to the collar or a very early 1940 Pattern.

@TheSexhaver2625

4 жыл бұрын

Rifleman Moore the cuts in the battledress are of the first “p37” pattern, was it possible that they just upgraded older stock to the new specifications like the Germans did?

How do I wash my tunic? Any care I should be aware of?

@RiflemanMoore

2 жыл бұрын

I'd generally advise dry cleaning.

Could you possibly go over the different options for buying BD. e.g the different reproduction makers. I understand you may not have every make but even just talking about the main points would possible be useful.

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

There's a simple answer, Panther Store, I wouldn't recommend anything else. It's the only repro BD I've seen which can really be mixed and matched with original and look right. Also its all I have, I try to focus on original kit as much as possible so buying multiple repro BD suits would be pointless.

@Sleepyhollow77

5 жыл бұрын

@@RiflemanMoore wpg not on par with panther store?

@pomjon

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiflemanMoore Hello, what are the best options now Panther is unfortunately no longer able to do battledress?

@RamonAnt

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimDutch Yes you are at the good address. Panther-Store BD is going on. All remained same.

Isn't pat 46 trousers, pat 40 utility trousers but with buttons for braces ?

@RiflemanMoore

5 жыл бұрын

Quite so, they include extra buttons for braces, that is 12 rather than 6.

@thebuffs3794

5 жыл бұрын

Rifleman Moore , thank you for your response

hello guys where can i buy this jacket

Material? Inside label?

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

Those aren't fully forme questions I'm afraid.

Имею похожую ,айки, бельгийской армии 1975 года..

wore these in blue ATC aweful kit.

The panther store battledress uniforms are the best reproduction I've ever seen. However in reality no one in Canada can really afford them. Unless they want to only eat no name brand KD for a month or be homeless... well at least the wool would keep you warm in your cardboard box 🤣

but... but... they don't talk about the 8th army summer wear... the possible worst uniform choice of the war, but it is the cheapest to reenact

@RiflemanMoore

4 жыл бұрын

What?

The idea of buttoning the jacket to the pants was totally idiotic! Would it be possible to mention all of the pockets when describing the items of clothing, please? Otherwise, another great video.

wore that shortened cheap tunic as surplus in borstals , they where cold horrible and the shirt hung out becuase the style of trousers had changed to hipster style not high waisted ,but we where convicted juveniles b=not worthy of being treated with dignity or respect.