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@Shotgunwilly1588

Жыл бұрын

Also there was a Buick LaCrosse super and when it comes to the three I would choose the Buick or the GXP

@mogulme6190

Жыл бұрын

There was 4 impala ss, Monte Carlo ss, Grand Prix gxp, and the Buick

@Shotgunwilly1588

Жыл бұрын

@@mogulme6190 oh yeah I forgot the Monte Carlo had a V8 in it for a short run

@1175jaymz

Жыл бұрын

I swear every GXP is frickin' purple!! Did it even come in any other color?! Lol!

@Shotgunwilly1588

Жыл бұрын

@@1175jaymz check auto list there's one on there I think it's like 30,000 mi available for sale

Pontiacs were crazy popular here back in the day here in Michigan. I remember seeing them all the time almost 10 years ago. I wish gm could have saved them

@omarmrech9815

Жыл бұрын

Gxp was the scatpack of 2004 to 2008 in mi

@warpmine1761

Жыл бұрын

F*ck those bean counters

@louiseantwine3569

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean gm

@marquisbryant1986

Жыл бұрын

Was my most reliable cars. I had a grand am, and a 95 Bonnie that I drove freaking everywhere. That car ate the interstate up . Over 300k on it replaced transmission once. That 3800 was a beast tho. Never had engine trouble even once

@mikegualjr

Жыл бұрын

From Sault Ontario (border twin city with Michigan) and Pontiac’s thankfully are available for steals still - not to many GXPs but around still many GTPs kicking though

Even without the zzp suspension, these gxps came with bilstein suspension meaning they could handle well out of factory

GXP was overlooked and underrated! This video just jacked up the prices 😂

@nathankrikke6849

Жыл бұрын

It’s cause the transmissions were garbage in the Grand Prix GXPs, they couldn’t handle the LS power and got chewed up. The bonneville GXPs were my favorite, but those Northstars had a lot of issues with cracking heads among other things. Both cars were so beautiful, but were almost guaranteed headaches.

@Llggd

Жыл бұрын

@@nathankrikke6849 The engine is solid on both the LS4 and the 3800. If only GM could make a durable auto trans. They should have made a 6 speed option.

@justint5625

Жыл бұрын

For who? My grandma?! Lmao 🤣

@Rigandfixit

Жыл бұрын

Transmission was weak in them cars

Quick tip, if you have a stock ls4 and your cruising with it in 4 cyl mode, you can blip the throttle without it lurching and it will change over to 8 cylinders, then go nuts. Smoother changeover than trying to accelerate out of 4 cyl mode.

@howieewalt1322

Жыл бұрын

It has a 4-cyl mode? That's sounds really cool actually.

@ericacherney3132

Жыл бұрын

@@howieewalt1322 it's one of the downfalls of this motor

@flacjacket

Жыл бұрын

@@howieewalt1322 cylinder deactivation is really common these days, it's also garbage, it's the primary reason why the newer LT engines are inferior to the older LS's, the lifters can fail and lunch the cam and GM has done nothing to revise the part and the dealer repair (assuming the lifter fails in its collapsed state rather than it's extended state and therefor doesn't destroy the cam) is ~$8k at the dealer, total top end rebuild required.

@_Bishopton

Жыл бұрын

Hey Karol... quick tip... you can tune it to not go into 4 cylinder mode.

@carado1984

Жыл бұрын

​@@_Bishopton still has crap lifters though. I'm sure that was part of the reason for the swap. I wonder how many trans the guy has been through

My cousin had a blue 2006 Monte Carlo SS with the 5.3. Purchased it right out of the showroom floor. Definitely a sleeper and hurt quite a lot of feelings of people that thought it was just a S.C. V6. From a stand still, it was basically pointless on the streets. It would roast the tires right off but catch it already rolling and it would hand a lot of people their a$$. I'll admit that was a fun car and a sleeper from the factory for sure.

@lclnbm

Жыл бұрын

That sc v6 was no slouch

@karol5363

Жыл бұрын

Monte ss owner here, this is truth. Traction control is helpless at a standstill. But rolling it pulls

@SidyDidIt

Жыл бұрын

3800>ls4

@jaydeeee668

Жыл бұрын

My 2005 impala SS supercharged beat out my brothers 2007 LS4 Monte Carlo

@1StoppJay

Жыл бұрын

If you actually know how to launch, they are actually fast asl from a stand still.. had 255s up front on mine and could get it off the line no spinning @ all

Glad you got to review this car. I got a mostly stock 2007 GXP in Black with a ZZP cutback & I was waiting for you to review a LS4 car one day , One other little thing you might not have know is that the ls4 can be found in 2 other cars as well besides the Impala SS, GM also put it in the Monte Carlo SS and the Buick LaCrosse Super.

Finally!!!! I had an 06 Dark Cherry Metallic GP GXP with a magnaflow exhaust. It pulled hard, was comfortable, sounded amazing, got good mpg on the highway, and had a good (for 2000s gm) interior. The HUD and staggered wheel setup were pretty cool too. Definitely have to disable the DoD, it shouldn’t hurt fuel economy and makes the car feel and sound much nicer.

The GXP/GTP and Cobalt SS are some of the best sleepers. Everyone sees them and goes "oh an economy car" and then get absolutely destroyed.

@zachdebuhr6347

7 ай бұрын

The neon srt4 too. Such a beast because of how light it is

@Yoomaro

4 ай бұрын

The GXP/GTP isn’t economy..

Out of the LS4 cars, I’m going to choose the less known Buick Lacrosse Super. It’s the best looking out of the group.

@robertstone9988

Жыл бұрын

The 06 Monte Carlo SS what's the perfect Monte Carlo looks-wise and you got the LS4

@ReeshaRacing

Жыл бұрын

Buck lacrosse super is definitely not the best looking

@sfielding10001

Жыл бұрын

Idk I think the Pontiac looks best but too each their own

@Moecean

Жыл бұрын

He'll nah gxp takes it even the monte ss, buick is a grandma's car

@TheJamisun

Жыл бұрын

​@@Moecean sleeper

Awesome review dude! Back in the day a guy at my first job a salesman had a 400hp turbo V6 grand prix. This car Brings back so many memories working as a lot boy at a gm dealership near Toronto in the early to late 00s as my first ever job at 18 and learning how to drive manual with the cars on the lot lol. I loved these and the supercharged grand prixs and Bonnevilles. These are a wicked daily they sold like crazy back in the day . Very rare to see the V8's!

I got a 2008 GXP back in 2020 with 80k miles for only $4,000. i will probably never sell it I love it so much. super underrated cars

@alexanderspenser4960

4 ай бұрын

couldn't find any clean ones under 7k, good for you.

@rosieclark3661

2 ай бұрын

@@alexanderspenser4960I’ll say got mine a red one from a estate sale 2006 GX-P 5.3 liter V8 89,200 K miles $2800 dollars call me a lucky bastard lol 😂

@alejandrocardenas6821

2 ай бұрын

I bought mine a in 2023 for 2.5k. Ive put around 2k in maintenance and repairs but i love it too

Always wanted this car haha. I didn’t care that I didn’t make sense then and I don’t care that it doesn’t make sense now lol

A V8 is a V8 no matter what

I had an '04 GTP in Atlanta. Loved the car as it was the first car I ever started working on. The torque steer is predictable and manageable so it really becomes a non-issue. I do miss the heads-up display. My favorite feature of it was that with a press of a button, you could turn off all of the gauge lights and the interior would be almost completely dark.

I liked my 00 Continental more than my Ls 05 grand prix. The Lincoln had a 4.6 dohc v8, similar gearing at 3.56:1, and it had a limited slip. Its funny because Ford rated the Conti at 275 hp back in the mid 90s when it was equipped with B heads and mark viii/navi intake cams. By 99, the Conti had the same C heads and cams as a 99/01 Cobra but they kept the power rated at 275. My bone stock 2000 model ran low 14s bone stock!

Ive only driven mostly FWD cars including a grand prix GT of that generation. So when i drove a GXP it was pretty natural feeling to me except i had alot more power

I have driven, and been a passenger in both an Impala SS, and a GP GXP. Both cars are actually a lot of fun, they are pretty quick, bone-stock, and fall into the sleeper category. Also, In Canada, the GXP came with Brembo brakes and Bridgestone Potenza tires on them, stock. Unheard of from domestic car makers at the time. It was funny that the front wheels were wider than the rears, but for an obvious reason. The suede and leather interiors were pretty nice too, and the vehicle felt more special and sporty than the same era Camry or Accord. I think it's awesome you have done all of these videos of the ZZP cars, I think you have made a lot of viewers aware that you can make GM platforms fun and reliable, and have something more unique than what most people drive.

@randystull1502

Жыл бұрын

lmao....sleeper.....yeah ok

@lclnbm

Жыл бұрын

That transmission from factory is past its limit. Shame that it needs to be rebuilt to be reliable

@LSDdreams808

Жыл бұрын

They are very cool fun cars i think an good sleepers especially the impala ss

I bought a 2008 Grand Prix GXP about 8 years ago and it's probably the best car I've ever owned. Of course, with it having over 200k miles on it it goes through a little oil, but it moves around in traffic really well and is fun on the old winding country roads.

Amazing how far transmissions have come in 18 years. Can def hear the difference, the bog and not staying in the PowerBand. Love seeing reviews of forgotten cars like this.

@johnnyvt9

5 ай бұрын

Cars were built to be affordable, easy to work on, and not over complicated in the past. GM cars and trucks were so easy to work on and parts interchanged easy. This kept prices down. My father bought a brand new F150 in 93 with a V8 for 12,500. Fast forward to 1999 I bought brand new F150 Step side 4.6 V8 with Manual Transmission for 18,500, but the stick was 23,500. The price on new truck with a V8 today is insane. Just the base models are nearly 40k.

Terrell Smith (also on KZread) has a 6th generation grand prix that he has done a lot to and it has also been converted to a five speed.

@joel92mor

Жыл бұрын

We gotta make this top comment

@PeePee666PooPoo

Жыл бұрын

Been watching him build for years on KZread and in the FB groups he’s got some clean cars.

@Dennis-gy7xr

Жыл бұрын

Yea

@H3mif4v5r

Жыл бұрын

U can put a 5 speed in a ls4?

@carolschapker728

Жыл бұрын

Not it's an L67

You need to drive an Olds Tornado with the 455ci and front wheel drive! Mash the go peddle in one of those and you'll know torque steer!

@SomeOne_86

Жыл бұрын

Toronado, not tornado.

@Heyitsallgoodman

Жыл бұрын

@SomeOne_86 probably auto correct

@forterierocks

Жыл бұрын

@@SomeOne_86 Friggin spell check🤦

@SomeOne_86

Жыл бұрын

@@forterierocks Sorry, people often say it wrong, I've seen it irl.

When I was 4 years old, my Dad bought a purple haze metallic grand prix gxp new in 2007. As a kid, I absolutely adored this car lol. Sold it in 2014 with about 47k miles on. Miss it so much. This video brought back so many memories of that car 🥲

The 40th anniversary Grand Prix gtp coupe with a supercharged 3800 and cat back is my pick. Had performance brakes with slotted rotors and adjustable springs and dampers. Gorgeous car

Yup. GXP all day over the SS Impala!! Thanks for the nostalgia David. That is a gem right there!

@cali2468

Жыл бұрын

What? They're basically the same car. 🙄

@bronem8979

Жыл бұрын

Gxp look better and got good sound system

@mrcontroversy222

Жыл бұрын

@@bronem8979 anything can have good sound

@samsquantch14

Жыл бұрын

@@cali2468 they have a different final drive ratio, the impala didnt have tap shift, and the gxp looked waaaaaaay better

@emmanuelpeck853

Жыл бұрын

The MC SS is better and don’t forget the Supers too

You pretty much nailed the description of these cars. I have an Impala SS and it's my daily. It's comfortable for cruising and if you need a little extra power to pass someone you have it. It's not crazy fast by any means but it's a nice cruiser for going on trips.

@CRAPO2011

Жыл бұрын

Drove one bsck when tthey were new, oem exhaust was way tame. Would love to have with a lumpy cam sounding liike a vette haha

@LyonGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@CRAPO2011 I have a really mild cam in mine, but you're 100 percent correct about the exhaust. I want to do flowmasters or something.

Thanks for doing this. The Big GM FWD cars get a lot of hate. I always loved them. I didn't have a GXP, but did have a Comp G. But, I also had a 1998 Seville STS with the Northstar. I'd love to see you drive one too. I really miss that car. Drove it back and forth from San Diego to Florida 3 times while stationed with the Navy. I also used to take it to the Qualcomm drag races with the 4 lane 1/8 mile. This was before Cadillac was doing the V stuff and everyone was hating on me. lol. It was so fun lol.

@ryantharpe3288

Жыл бұрын

I like in the midwest Indianapolis to be exact front wheel drive is good for me rear wheel in the winter with alot of horse power is problems

@tallie7490

8 ай бұрын

Hey did your Cadillac kick ass when you use to take it out, I think people really asleep on the Northstar due to engine problems they had with overheating, but I think a Cadillac Northstar with a turbo or supercharger would kick ass, would make us fall in love with it, if you know you know how good a Northstar feels when you hit it and they make a special sound one would love like I did, please comment back telling me about your Cadillac , the parts you liked the most about it,

@watchandjewelryloft4713

8 ай бұрын

@@tallie7490 Back then yes. It was definitely a sleeper. Most people hated on it.

@tallie7490

8 ай бұрын

@@watchandjewelryloft4713 so if you had to do like any mods to the Cadillac what do you think would really make it badass far as more power , you had the Northstar right, or you had the still kinda fast 4.9 that would beat most cars stop sign to stop sign, it is something about that 4.9 Cadillac engine that nobody talks about, but was really fast for the 89 on up to like 95 I think , that was in the sedan DeVille shark body ones, I loved them cars ,to, what year was your sts

@watchandjewelryloft4713

8 ай бұрын

@@tallie7490 There wasn't anything for the Northstar when I owned mine. Would have to be mostly custom stuff. Exhaust is an option too. But, I preferred mine quiet.

Dope AF ride.. front wheel and all she get's down..great content as always bro.. stay up and blessed my good people..🤜🏼🤛🏼🦾🦿

Just throw it in reverse and now you have a rear engine rear wheel drive V8 up to about the top of the reverse gear

@MrTheHillfolk

Жыл бұрын

Just drill a hole in the other end of the gearbox, weld a shaft in and flip it around and mount it back in, problem solved.

Love the GXP! I learned how to drive in fwd Buicks with the 3800 series 2(best obd2 v6 GM ever made in my opinion) Always been a fan of big 4 door sleepers!

Those 2008-2009 model year LS4 5.3 Liter V-8 GM W-body cars provided great performance with good fuel economy. That LS4 was rated at 303 horsepower, and the W-car went from 0-60 in 5.4 seconds with a top speed of 150 m.p.h; they were: Buick Lacrosse Super Pontiac Grand Prix GXP Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS Chevrolet Impala SS I have seen a few modded LS4 V-8 W-cars beaten Camaros and Mustangs in a drag race. Those LS4 equipped W-cars can pull hard

I absolutely love these cars and I’m surprised more people didn’t build them

@brokentradgedy

Жыл бұрын

who would want to build this POS lmaoooo

@IraqVet0608

Жыл бұрын

They probably would have but they fell apart. I had an 08 GP with the 3800. The engine was bulletproof but the car fell apart around it.

@RealDirtyDan2000

Жыл бұрын

As an owner of a 07’ GXP I’m not surprised at all, the transmissions in these things are garbage, almost no matter what you do to them

@brandonjohnson5205

Жыл бұрын

@@IraqVet0608 I had a 07 base gp with the 3800 and was literally about to say the same thing

@jimtom4878

Жыл бұрын

@RaGe Shot2KilHD it's called get a bulletproof transmission

YES!!! FINALLY A REVIEW ON IT! My wife really wants to build hers so bad 😂 and then you release a review on someone doing it with there’s finally

@sirlukesalot4994

Жыл бұрын

Honestly if you're going to build it please get a good tune. The one in this video sounded like it's stock with an intake. They open up way more and can push your shift points to 6100rpm instead of 5700, makes a huge difference. Stock they'll Dyno 245-255* can get to 300 on e85 and tune easy, if you switch your intake manifold to an ssr intake 93mm throttle body and get 3 inch catless exhaust you can pick up another 50hp as well. I wish he would reviewed one with a little more done to it than suspension and an intake

@nicholasboyarko282

Жыл бұрын

ZZ performance will not disappoint! I built my gtp with all zzp parts except for the slp long tube headers. I hit 170 in it.

@devinhedger9517

Жыл бұрын

Car tuning got a turbo kit for 5k I’m bout to buy it n put it on bread pay like 250 a month . N makes 4-500 hp

Considering I had a supercharged GTP coupe at one point, I'd get the GXP. I miss that car. Only reason I got rid of if was because the transmission crapped out at 300K miles. But it had a good run! Definitely would buy one again for a budget project.

the grand prix makes an absolutely fantastic daily driver. I have 3 lol. 100% would take even a gtp comp g over the impala ss. Another thing you dont really see until you own one of these is the insane cost to reliability ratio, especially with the supercharged v6. I have seen so many of these things running awesome with over 300k. Seen them last even longer too. You can pick one of them up for 2-4k and they will take you anywhere and everywhere nonstop for years and years with little to no maintenance other than fluid changes and basic stuff you need to do on any car.

Always wanted one of these growing up graduated in 09 had a 02 grand prix gt and this was the car that I wanted to upgrade to at 17 haha

Don’t forget the last of the Pontiac Bonnevilles had the Northstar V8 with fwd!

@thegreattreon0177

Жыл бұрын

I own a 2005 Bonneville GXP. Absolutely love it!

@Mrb00st

Жыл бұрын

And it's platform twin the Buick Lucerne Super!

@_Bishopton

Жыл бұрын

the northstars were the worst motor ever made also pretty gutless

@ScabFarmer

Жыл бұрын

Northstars are Cadillac

@thegreattreon0177

Жыл бұрын

@@ScabFarmer the Northstar was put in the Bonneville GXP for it's last 2 years

Buick had an LS4 version, too. I had an '08 GXP & I still miss that car. There's headers & a turbo kit for those cars, too. It's basically the same as a regular 5.3L, but the crank snout is 13mm shorter than normal to work in that FWD setup. But, the 4T56E trans can't hold above 400hp without a great rebuild/shift kit.

Seeing this makes me miss my 06 Grand Prix GXP. I had so much fun in that car, I thought it was a truly amazing vehicle.

So glad you Reviewed this car I have a stock 08 GP GXP and I love the car amazing quick and fun daily car and definitely stands out from the rest of GMs LS cars in many ways haha

My first vehicle was a 1998 ford ranger that my dad and I fixed up back when I was 16. After 3 months of driving it I got hit by a drunk driver and it was totaled. Being from a small town there wasnt many options for used vehicles in town (mind you I was 16 and worked part time, didn't have much money) and I ended up getting a used 2007 grand prix. This would have been 2015. It was a trade in at our local GM dealer. It was low kilometers (86,000 or 53,000 miles) and was a base model, so it had the standard series III 3800 motor. All in all it was extremely clean and only needed new tires. I ended up getting it from the dealer for $5000 Canadian all in (or about $3800 USD at the time). It may not have been the fastest car or the coolest car but man did I have a blast with it all throughout highschool. Learning to drift in a front wheel drive car got some time to get used to but where I live in the winter we have an ice road that opens up part of the winter where it's a full extra wide road that goes over great slave lake in Yellowknife nwt, couldn't tell you how many sick drifts I did there!! I recently just sold it this past summer as I needed something bigger as I'm a home owner now but that car served me extremely well. In 7 years the only maintenance I did was oil changes, brake pads, some 02 sensors, cv shafts and a new power steering house. Ended up putting dual 12 inch Polk audio subs, all new door speakers, a 4 channel JL audio amp, a pioneer mono sub amp and a touchscreen head unit in. I was known as the bass head in town haha. So many good memories

My currently daily is a W-body and its such an under rated car. My car is the Oldsmobile Intrigue with the 3.5 dohc V6 and boy is it smooth! The engine is basically glass when running and the suspension is like a cloud, also the car has Magna steer so the steering is surprisingly good? Like really what i paid for the car is peanuts for what you all get, its quick it gets ok gas mileage and it looks completely modern. I have people come up to me when im out asking "what is that car?" And i tell them its a 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue and they are blown away lol! W-body cars are super under rated!

the ls4 was in the chevy impala SS, grand prix GXP, monte carlo SS, and the buick lacrosse super ! 4 cars that i know of that had that engine. I have personally owned a grand prix gxp for the last 7 years and its been awesome. nothing major has gone wrong with it yet *knock on wood*.

I have the gxp due to the fact it has ugraded bilstien suspension, offset wheels, Heads up display, information center with trans temp and much more, tap shift, and quad tip exhaust, vented bumper and fenders for cooling ,and there is stuff that im forgetting but its definitely the best between the monte, impala, or buick with the ls4

Fun fact, the front wheels and tires are wider than the rears. To better manage the torque I guess.

This brings back memories. I owned a 2004 GTP lightly modded. But the GP really launched me into car clubs and that culture. Met a lot of cool people that I'm still friends with today even though we no longer have GPs. I'm very biased so out of all the W-body cars the GP is hands down the best one. ZZP got a nice bit of money from me in them days LOL.

I love the look of these cars man, wish Pontiac was still around, would've loved to see what it'd look like today

The w body platform is so underrated. They handle far better than have any right to

@wheeldfreedom8353

Жыл бұрын

Until you get into a platform that can actually handle. Coming from someone who had a ~350hp gtp

@parhammotorsports6125

Жыл бұрын

@@wheeldfreedom8353 you are definitely right. They do not handle. I had a 06 Impala SS for 12 years. No handling at all. Still loved the car until it got old.

@Durkhead

Жыл бұрын

It's a longer frame so it drives in a straight line better but doesn't turn very well

@nicklynam1891

Жыл бұрын

I mean I hurl my 07 gp through corners and it Handles it better than I would have ever expected for sure

@Cody-wu5px

Жыл бұрын

Jesus loves u and died for u

Takes me back to 2013-15 before I had to ditch mine because of the trans 😂😂

@epiccowboymemes2042

Жыл бұрын

Srsly the trans ruin everything for ppl

@Firen81

Жыл бұрын

That's every owners reality lawl

@davidrunyon

Жыл бұрын

Same here dude. Check out my comment I just left 😂😅😓

@epiccowboymemes2042

Жыл бұрын

No thanks lol 😂😂😂

@busystuff23yearsago15

Жыл бұрын

Yup trans always goin bad

My son just got one of these. I was suprised how nice it is. Kinda like when he had the V6 accord its no race car but I found it way more enjoyable than expected. His had the trans replaced with a trans cooler added and DoD shut off in the tune before he got it so hopefully the whole front drivetrain won't have to pulled out any time soon.

Love these GXPs I always wanted one as a kid, it’s so quirky and weird but a sleeper for its era.

I had a 2-door Grand Am GT with every engine and suspension mod you could get from RKSport. It was kinda quick but handled very well. And it looked good with that ram air hood and lowering springs. Sadly I left someone borrow it and it got totaled.

@djinkentertainment

Жыл бұрын

Man I used to love RK sport. It's where I purchased the ram air hood and body kit for my 99 cavalier back in the good old days.

@Whats-It-To-Ya

Жыл бұрын

@@djinkentertainment same here. I had a '99 Sunfire GT with the RKSport lip kit, induction hood and twin deck spoiler, clear corners and clear taillights. Had eibach lowering springs and Konig seven spoke wheels. Man, that car looked so good, a little better than my Grand Am GT. Had the GMPP supercharger on it briefly and ran high 13's at Numidia Dragway. Kept snapping axles. They were the days though.

@djinkentertainment

Жыл бұрын

@@Whats-It-To-Ya That sounds like a fantastic ride bro! Mine was a 4 door. Besides what I mentioned mine had an cold air intake, front strut mount, coilovers, blacked out rims clear lights all around, Euro tails, straight piped muffler delete and z24 rear spoiler on the trunk lid.

@djinkentertainment

Жыл бұрын

@@Whats-It-To-Ya definitely sounds like a good time. It's nice to meet another gm owner of those platforms!

@Whats-It-To-Ya

Жыл бұрын

@@djinkentertainment that's all I run, GM and Honda because they're both fun, cheap to modify and parts are everywhere. I'm actually looking for a clean Sunbird or Z24 with a 3.1. I have an '89 Sunbird GT with the 2.0 turbo that I'm working on but I can't find parts for it. Been looking for a spare motor for over a year.

The 4T65 was some dookie but man the 5.3 and the 3800/3800SC are great

NOW I HAVE TO PUSH AND FINISH MY BUICK!!! UGH! Such bad timing with you being in and around Michigan. I will drive to you when I finish my boosted Lacrosse CXS!

So glad you finally did a vid on this

I’ve seen 2 motor swaps that used this engine, both very cool for different reasons. One was a Saturn sl1 sleeper. The other was a Pontiac Montana van. The van was cool cause the guy made it appear factory, and did a real good job on it.

@rhodesm6683

Жыл бұрын

@ G Shew If you're interested, check out Fanatik Builds here on KZread. They put an LS4 in a 1971 Triumph GT6 Mk3. They did turn it around for rear drive, but had to overcome the front drive design of the block. Fairly small channel, and very DIY (son and dad). Cheers from Guam USA👍

These mid 2000 Pontiacs are ageing very very good!

@marial8235

Жыл бұрын

Not really…. Sitting in one is depressing.

@alwaysreturnNurgirl

Жыл бұрын

​@@marial8235 lol true

@raul4.r210

Жыл бұрын

@@marial8235 it’s really not but yk

@marial8235

Жыл бұрын

@@raul4.r210 I had one and it was gross and depressing,lol.

I'm in VA and I drive a 2005 GTP with the supercharger. I've had a few mechanical issues in the 4 years I've had it, (replaced a transmission coolant line, new ignition switch, plastic coolant elbows blew out, replaced with metal ones) but at least it has never overheated like both of the Grand Ams I've owned. It's pretty peppy, but the suspension is a little rough. The HUD was broken when I bought it, and the cruise only half works. The rear wheels also have a pretty extreme camber compared to what I'm used to, so I go through rear tires quicker than is probably normal. I do like it overall though. I need to get it painted, as I hit a deer 6 months into owning it, so it has a door, fender and front fascia that doesn't match the rest of the car lol.

Just knowing you were in my city makes me happy i wish i still had my ls4 impala so you could have drove that as well

It really bums me out that when people talk about the GM cars that were V8 FWD sedans, they completely overlook the Oldsmobile Aurora because either A: they think it looks ugly and won't even look at any other part of it, or B: they never knew the Oldsmobile Aurora existed to begin with. The L47 V8 in that car was so good that GM used it in at least 6 different race cars, and the legend himself, Carol Shelby, even took notice of the quality of the L47. Yet, in spite of all that, the entire car community as a whole has all but thrown the Aurora to the wayside, and seemingly totally forgot that the car even existed to begin with. It's a platform worth building on, and the lack of aftermarket support is a direct result of never getting any love from car enthusiasts...

@Bloodcurling

Жыл бұрын

The second gen Aurora changed platforms, didn't help.

@thomasharris5151

Жыл бұрын

Aurora Was a great car!!! My fraternity bro had one and it was a nice car!!! Always liked those cars, it was ahead of it’s time and really a Japanese & euro luxury car competitor.

Slight correction: there are 2 more cars that had the FWD V8 set up: The Buick LaCrosse Super, and the Chevy Monte Carlo SS. Great videos btw!

@ramrod126

Жыл бұрын

Olds Toranado, a couple Caddys, Taurus SHO, Lincoln Continental, Olds Aurora and I'm sure I am missing a few.

@joshuakhaos4451

Жыл бұрын

Then for the Northstar equipped cars, You had the Buick Lucerne Super and the Pontiac Bonneville GXP(Both were dope cars and are really over looked).

@ramrod126

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuakhaos4451 Not to mention a few never sold in America. Hyundai did one, so did Lancia, Audi made at least one.Probably more but I've not heard of them.

@joshuakhaos4451

Жыл бұрын

@@ramrod126 There was a kid my senior year that had been given an Oldsmobile Aurora. Green with a whiteish tan interior. There was also a dancer who I knew, who had a 98 Mark 8. Those things were the next quickest things on in the lot other than the 2 SN95 gts and the LS1 WS6 a kid had. Then one guy had an early 90s chevy 454 that was mint af. This is late 2000s for context. So 09-2010. Back when everything was cheap minus the classic muscle cars

I used a impala ss as a long distance cruiser because it was comfortable and the highway pulls made me smile, and that should be a good enough reason to have had owned one.

I used to have one of these! It was petty fun! Big engine, big brakes, smallish car. It was nice.

Displacement On Demand is the active fuel management system the LS engines have. AFM can reduce to four cylinders, two on each bank active and two inactive. DFM (dynamic fuel management), in the new LS engines (L84 and L87), can actually reduce down to one firing cylinder at a time. It has 17 cylinder patterns to use to reduce engine vibration, a lot of sensors and software go into it.

Gxp over impala all day

@rosieclark3661

2 ай бұрын

The problem is the wrong transmission too 65T 👉🏽wrong 🚫instead of 80T series 👉🏽right ✅

Id choose the GXP but I do like the Buick Lacrosse Super's more.

@reggeckmann3993

Жыл бұрын

agree

Absolutely adore this car. Finally got one a little over a year ago. Unfortunately it's pretty rusty underneath (thanks Michigan and Ohio) but I don't plan on ever getting a different car. Eventually I plan on finding a Grand Prix with a clean body from the south, stripping it down to the body and swapping over everything from my GXP

@nicholasking4676

7 ай бұрын

Get it oil undercoated or do it yourself . I restored a 2006 gxp driving it now here in Ontario but i oiled all unibody rockers floor bumper supports using a mixture chain bar oil and cooking oil and some mineral spirits . Also i drill 1/2 holes to get access rockers pillars then install 1/2 inch undercoating plugs . Dont for get to spray all brake lines and fittings . I use a 1 gallon plastic garden sprayer to apply . Another thing you can do is do a transmission service by pumping out transmission fluid (warm pump out easier ) using a hand operated suction / transfer pump . In Ontario i get plastic suction pump on sale $ 9.99 and a garden sprayer for $9.99 on sale at Princess auto . Harbourfrieght in USA has them too . I save the old trans fluid and add that to my oil undercoat mix lolo 12:02

This is WINTER MUSCLE. All the fun of spinning tires and revving powerful engines, in the snow, with much less sketch factor, Torque steer is no joke but it's easier to handle than the back end coming around!

They made this body style with the 3.8 supercharged from the gtp as well! Great engines !

I’ve always kinda really wanted this or a Monte Carlo SS as a daily. They’re totally ridiculous and impractical lol. The styling on the GXP is amazing imo. If it was a rwd it would be a car I’d have to pick up. I just like weird cars. I’m getting ready to start building my 96 Thunderbird lol.

@ianscheurer

Жыл бұрын

those 10th gen thunderbird are sleek, i wanna get a 5.0 one

@Carkage

Жыл бұрын

@@ianscheurer yeah I want a 5.0 too at some point. Mine has the 4.6 2v, I love it. I like the styling of these MN12 Birds and it rides and handles very well. Hoping to build it into a pretty nice and quick street car. I have big plans for it.

@midnight347

Жыл бұрын

Get a 4.6 one and put a coyote in it then you'll have a badass 5.0 lol

@midnight347

Жыл бұрын

They look good with some wide mustang wheels and a cobra r mustang style hood it makes them look pretty mean just simple touches.

I've always known about the GTP but I had no idea they did the Grand Prix with a V8! I've always liked the idea of taking the motor from a GTP and installing it in a Fiero. I guess this is one way to get a V8 into a Fiero also.

I've always liked the GTP/GXP Grand prix as far as fwd American cruisers, plus aftermarket exhausts sounds good and not too loud.

Never cared for GM in general but Pontiac has always spoken to me.

@joesmith9216

Жыл бұрын

My friends mom had a grand am that thing did haul ass, red dash lights were cool too.

@codereddew1539

Жыл бұрын

@@joesmith9216 right on, my dad had a 1995 Grand AM in the 90's and through the 2000's. It only had the quad four but I thought it was fast as a kid.

@joesmith9216

Жыл бұрын

@@codereddew1539 Let me see....I think his mother had a 2002? 4 door, grand am, if I recall correctly, it was just stupid fast, his father drove us to an amusement park as teens he was doing like 100mph HAHA! cool car, I still like the 2 door grand ams with the testarossa style flares on the side doors, just can never find one thats not dead by now, those cars were never cared for.

Wow, you really don't like Grand Prixs

I have always loved the Grand Prix. But when they went wide in 96 I was blown away. I currently have 4 07s and I found an 08 GXP with only 65 K and snapped it up right away. I also have a 99 with only 26 K. Would love to add the one you featured in your vid.

My neighbor has both of those(SS slso, though rebadged a Holden of course) Had to have the trans in the GXP rebuilt. Sent it somewhere to have it redone with a few upgrades. Just got it back, the trans..... he seems satisfied

The transmission is absolutely terrible and the engine burns oil

@yungkidnf

Жыл бұрын

True

@SsMike

Жыл бұрын

Build the trans solves that problem

@kyleranderson5557

Жыл бұрын

@@SsMike also true! The stock trans across all cars are the same I think except one was supposed to be beefier? Otherwise their all the same 4spd and once built their pretty good

@11.9lsupercharged4

Жыл бұрын

Get a trans flush one a year. Mine survived 3 years on original trans and still drove fine with 150k miles when I traded it in

@SsMike

Жыл бұрын

@@kyleranderson5557 the impala and monte has the worst trans the gxp has the better version which is weird because it’s all in the GM world. It’s like why don’t grade in the infamous impala SS and Monte Carlo SS two well know vehicles.

I have a 2008 Pontiac GrandPrix GXP. I have a Texas Speed DOD delete kit and a nice choppy cam and it is tuned. Transmission is next. Deciding if I am doing a stage 1 rebuild with Triple Edge Performance or go all out and do a 4T80E swap from LS4 king. He has a Monte SS that runs 9's with that trans.

I had an 05 gtp with the some work done to the motor and trans and it was a beast! Used to take it drag racing on French road in Detroit and used to DEMOLISH almost every car that pulled up beside me. Eventually ended up joining the GPF car club and had a lot of fun doing so

i have an 06 grand prix and absolutely love it, fast when you mod it just a little, super comfy, and pretty reliable when it comes to the engine

I just picked up an impala SS 3 weeks ago. Love it. Perfect daily imo

I own a 07 gxp and it's been by far my favorite car I've owned. comfortable, smooth, fast. I love it

It would be cool if you could find a modified ninth generation Lincoln Continental. They where another forgotten FWD V8 IMO. Yes you had the jellybean Taurus SHO, the Cadillac Deville/DTS and some others I'm forgetting, but that generation of continental had what seemed to be a transverse Cobra motor in it (similar to the mark VIII but FWD), so fingers crossed you'll find one

I don't know if it's true but I heard that the serpentine setup and water pump from the LS4 is good for LS swaps that are a tight fit

Ayo I had a the same gen GT. In 06 the GT basically became the gtp; they put the supercharged v6 in the GT and dropped gtp name. This was the car that made me realize i could be into cars on a common waiter's budget (circa 2016). It had a myriad of issues and legit caught on fire on the highway, however i was young and very inexperienced with enthusiast cars; it was a lesson I needed. Domestic car brand makes FWD single OH cam supercharged v6? And they said domestics aren't quirky?! PS. Was definitely not expecting you to cover a Grand Prix. I'm into Nissan's and Imports these days but Pontiac and GM enthusiast cars will always have a place in my heart, so I appreciate that.

Michigan guy here. Yup lot's of GTPs up here. Well there used to be. A lot of them got modded, sold to people who DD'd them and they just rusted out up here. I got into GTPs back in 2007. So that was 16 years ago. I've been to tons of meets, bought many ZZP parts and like these cars. I've never driven a GXP. For me it was also about the supercharger. I purchased a GTP in Florida back in 2012 as my other one was rusting out. I switched over some parts, and then modded my new GTP with a bunch of ZZP stuff and then dyno tuned it. I have about 350whp. It's a pretty nice driving car.

I have a 2008 gxp and I need to get the engine bay clean just like yours with that nice cold air intake and those nice red spark plugs 🙌🔥

The Monte Carlo SS was cool with the Ls4. I see those in Florida alot

I spotted a Billet dog bone and a poly upper motor mount, which would play into the drive feel, no slack and all go when you punch it. I used to want to graduate to a GXP from my GTP but the front wheel drive racer life was too hard on the cv axles. GTP's are definitely more a midwest thing, i had 1 when i lived in Milwaukee, there are some really nice GTP builds around, your best experience may be from a top swapped GT though, they are potentially faster than GTP's cus of compression.

I had one of these as my first car a couple years ago off a used car lot before prices sky rocketed, honestly I loved it and daily drove it for roughly two years and put probably around 25,000 miles on it. The seats, engine, the way the dash was oriented towards you just made dailying that much more enjoyable. Of course it had the drawbacks of a GM car but your video made me reminisce and now I have a 04 z4 and I love it but that GXP was an amazing car (although the four speed tranny they put in them gave out on me right when the forums told me it would and maintenance in that tiny engine bay was a S.O.B.

@2:24 The LS4 was in 4 cars, the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, The Impala SS, the Monte Carlo SS, and the Buick LaCrosse Super. Also I have one of these cars, actually 2 of them, one of them is my old daily that was wrecked in 2021, I bought it back as a parts car for my new one

I had a 2007, it was awesome….flow masters, 2 Kicker L7s Had it up to 162 one night on M-10

6:36 you driving me crazy with this door handle cause I know exactly what you talking about, but I can’t remember what car it came out of😡😂😂

Not even started yet, and I love it I'm a die-hard Pontiac fan I own a grandma GT and absolutely love her she needs a very lil work, but I love it

I'm from Michigan, Metro Detroit area and you're absolutely right, Grand Prixs are everywhere... I drive a GXP as a daily and own a few old Pontiacs, anyway I have a 99 GTP 2 door that is complete but needs a complete restoration, you can have her for free if you're interested in that type of project, she's rusty in spots but worked when parked many years ago, she was little brothers who passed away in 2009, she's been sitting since... big job but a rare 2 door green gtp.

My dad had a DTS Cadillac with a Northstar V8 2007 very powerful front wheel drive handled great Good toriq.

I had a 2007 G6 GT with the 3.9L V6. I’m not a huge fan of V6 sound, but it actually sounded good and had a low end sound at idle. Mine had an issue (of course) if I tried to accelerate to hard, the traction control would kick in and shut off ignition even though there was no traction loss. But if I just drove it normal, it was fine so I never bothered to fix the issue.

My buddy had a Boniville GXP with the Northstar v8. That thing hurt a lot of feelings 😂

I had the 2008, absolutely loved it. did the K&N cold air intake and flowmaster series 40s.

Been loving all the ZZP videos