I've owned one for over a decade. Paid £1500 in 2011. The running cost are the expense. I've changed everything

was advertised as a track car, some of the really good bits have been stripped of it see .... £2k is expensive for that .... mine was just over £1000 and is in far better condition and less mileage paint is just as bad though 😅

Always interesting to see an expert inspect a car. Thanks!

@ItaliaAutos

Ай бұрын

I enjoy doing them

On my Alfa Gtv V6TB, which has the same platform as Coupe, I have routed the FMIC pipe in general the same way, but much higher and whithout silly turns in it. And also have working A/C and, obviously, a V6.

Wouldn't say he's done too bad for 2k, despite the rear shunt, given how good it is underneath and how sweet that engine sounds. 20v turbo coupes are starting to be quite desirable so I'd say spending on it shouldn't be throwing money away.

I reckon 4k+ to get the body sorted +any parts needed or just use as is and have some fun 😊

my current dailey is a plus, the floor has now rotted through the front half of the car, and my turbo is shagged dripping coolant and oil from the center of the cartridge, cambelt needs replacing, stock cast manifold is blowing out of every orrofice after several re welds over the years, crank angle and cam phase sensors need replacing, steering belt tensioner is clacking its tits off on cold start, steering lines and oil cooler lines are crusty, all before the mot is up next month... big bills this time. he shouldnt of paid 2 grand for this coupe, but it seems better than my plus right now. id buy this back if i didnt have the plus to repair.

also, i started the battery relocation but had to let the car go DURING the work, nice to see someones finished it

i just seen those two holes just in front of either side of the radiator, these were for them other style latches/pins. i fitted that radiator and new rad fan resistor in 2013 having put a hole through the other one.

oh, dont know if you noticed, as you open the driverside door, notice the missing paintwork on the edge where it closes which was a little rusty when it left me, thats from the first day i got the car and opened the door against a chalky brick wall accidentally at the petrol station. thats something not obvious that only i will know about. and one of those side pininifarina badges looks abit...weird? right? well i tried pulling it off thinking it was a flush badge, but soon realised it had two little bits that push into the body to hold it on, so had to use normal average glue to try and hold it back on.

@ItaliaAutos

Ай бұрын

Whoops.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

have you noticed that missing bit of paint on the door?

One of the tyres is a 205/45R16... Seats are Carrelli. There was a group buy on the forum in the late noughties. Dampers/springs look like Billy/Eibachs.

@ItaliaAutos

Ай бұрын

Well spotted.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

the springs are the LOsprings and were 25 or 30 mm if i remember correctly.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

however i didnt not fit those shocks, i had stock ones on it still.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

30 quid springs from ebay. how have you not heard of toyosports.....

@lloyde-t5n

26 күн бұрын

@@Trappygit are the seats specific for the coupe or do they have to be modified? i had a fixed back track spec sparco seat as my driver seat so noone can get in behind me whcih is annoying and cant chuck ruck sacks back there even more annoying.

if there's nasty scratches on the boot that look like they had some magic marker or touch up paint on in them to match the blue again - thats from my pal pratting about mocking his old gc8s vortex generator wing up at the top of the rear screen and letting it slide down the window and down over the boot lid, consequently leaving some fairly hefty deep scratches which i covered with a big DEADLY brand sticker over which has since been removed. also had an apexi turbo timer that was simply tapped into on the ignition wires, if you pull the cowling off and see the wires for the ignition - the wires sheething may be cut in couple of places unless hes changed that aswell. also a manual rad fan switch was mounted in that coin holder bit next to the gear stick. but i didnt notice it here..?

New hoses are VERY important. Lost the original engine of my XM Turbo CT because of the originals going bad ( aluminum head on steel cylinderbank). No parts are available anymore so l had to build my own replacements.

there were functioning pins in it before these, look at the radiator, just behind it on each side is a little hole, thats where i mounted the pins.

Apart from the zebra crossing headlining its a good colour. The bonnet mods are cheap and nasty and the bent bodywork is a concwrn, but I think it's an Ok buy. I guess it will be about another 2k to sort it out?

@ItaliaAutos

21 күн бұрын

Yep had a word with owner and he's prepared to sort it all out.

i owned this in 2012, its a 1998, not a 97 as some ding bat thought, i had some of those other style bonnet pins on it but put one side on wonky at the time, so the owner after me put these on, the paint, rust, bodywork in general were all mint when i bought it, i had a deep dish china omp wheel on it aswell but someones took it off, also had other gauges in, that is the dump valve i put on, its a rspec twin piston, i also did the ac pump delete and put that short alternator belt on, it should still have the uprated kemso 340lph fuel pump in unless its been removed.....had polybushed drop links on there aswell

@Danscars2k

Ай бұрын

Any chance I could reach out to you at all? Would be good to get a run down on what was done to it in your possession as im the new owner and I fear a lot went wrong between your ownership and mine 🤣

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

@@Danscars2k alright mate, yeh so, i bought it stock,then thought it would be cool to the some bonnet PINS not those aero catches that dont function hence the little hole behind each end of the radiator, then got a cone air filter and a collins then the RSPEC twin piston dump valve which is till on there now (still with the stock turbo inlet piping that looks like an elephant trunk inplace that runs up to where the airbox was). left it like that for a bit, replaced with all new parts the thermostat, and coolant temp sensor, radiator, radiator fan resistor which sits at the top middle of the rad. after that, got an uprated kemso 340lph fuel pump fitted along with a boost gauge, a while after that i got a manual radiator fan switch and apexi turbo timer installed. sometime after all this, on my mates drive facing down, the drivers door was open, huge gust of wind from nowhere forced the the door open apst its max position damaging the bonnet. after that, had an heated debate with someone and punch the top of the roof with the side of my fist putting that dent it. then had an mot come up and had the rear brake bias valve removed or bypassed not being able to replace it or repair it and also got one of the wishbones replaced after noticing it was bent while it was on the 4 post lift when i came to see the lads in the garage. last thing i put on was that china deep dish suede wheel on.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

@@Danscars2k tho i also did the rear wiper delete soon after getting the car, went to Buckingham shire just to get the car which was 4 hours away, i did have the drop links fitted with powerflex purple bushings while the new wishbone went on. but yeh thats it pal, the very last tinkering i tried was a battery relocation, running the positive cable through a whole i drilled in the very bottom passenger side corner of the firewall. but literally was the first time trying something like that, otherwise id of had some rubber surround the edge of the hole i cut so the power cable wouldnt rub through and burn the car down.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

@@Danscars2k i have a 20vt plus now mate, where do you live?

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

@@Danscars2k my plus is 350 at the wheels and have a 2nd low mileage engine as a spare that may be capable of 1000bhp in the next 4 years or so.

that inward dent in the driverside bit of bonnet i ment, that was from being parked on my mates driveway pointing down with the door open and a huge gust of wind forcing the door open past it's maximum position and pinching into the bonnet. the little dent on the roof driver side is from me punching it after an argument.

Absoluteley brilliant underneath.

@ItaliaAutos

Ай бұрын

Yeah it surprised me

@ds1868

Ай бұрын

Good underneath but the rest not so good.

i put that toyosports cat back on also its a mild steel system and am suprised it hasnt rusted through.

I like watching the work get done thumbs up from me

I'd say it's a bit rough, difficult to turn it into a pristine example

i always used millers nanotech 10w60 on this at nearly 70 quid for 5 liters, so engine should be good providing the 2 owners after me looked after it.

This car would have been triple that money here in Finland and in the same, or worse, condition. There is no such thing as a "bad buy"...Anything can be fixed and restored. It is just the case of how much the customer is willing to invest. Sometimes people have high hopes and empty wallets but Life usually teaches a lesson...In which One learns or not.....

Absolutely brilliant video neil ❤👍omg who ever sold that should be ashamed I'd expect something like that if I'd done a straight swap but 2000 you'd expect better brilliant

It's probably going to be an appreciating classic so a bit minty to sort but will give year's of pleasure so probably worth 2k

That headlining is horrific. What was the first owner on to do that 🤢🤢

@ItaliaAutos

28 күн бұрын

Shocking

@lloyde-t5n

28 күн бұрын

i thought racing stripes were ment to go on the outside,

@lloyde-v6s

17 күн бұрын

this is my new account, cant remember my ac details for other one, i hate the headlights yellowing, im going to remove the outer plastic cover and run them naked on my plus, as replacement units are so damn expensive and just not worth it. do you know what exact seats these are?

Going to be a labour of love to sort all this out Neil.....

sill damage was there before i bought it. as was the floor dent.

Great video as ever. I have a really tidy 16vt that I want to sell. It's in a completely different league to this money pit. Let me know if any of your customers want a low owner, miles, rust free car.

@ItaliaAutos

29 күн бұрын

Cheers but he's happily fixing this one up. Cambelt and a service first.

@lloyde-t5n

28 күн бұрын

mmm i dont know, im a 5 cylinder only guy, but even i couldnt say no to a lancia 4 cylinder soundtrack. only other car id have is the 16vt, but wouldnt trade my moon grey plus for anything in the world. the 16vt and the ca18det are the 2 best 4 pots imho.

Does the overflow tank silicone hose have a kink?

Nice motor

has it still got that manual rad fan switch next to the gear lever my mate put in?

200 quid would have been fair in my books, 2 grand oh dear.

what seats are these? like, specifically? as i had the stock ones in at the time but the reclining mech was dying so im not suprised the next owner replaced them. i want to get these seats, what are they? my current sparco track spec bucket seat is fixed back and cant get people in and out behind me or bags etc unless its through passenger side.

Once again if engine is good on a Coupe thats 80% job done , just need money spent getting it back to decent. Down to the owner , for 2k , spend perhaps 5-6k , he'll have a legend car , still today........Good video

the thumbnail made me laugh 😂

Dent on the roof would worry me, as I would expect the mostly likely cause is very major accident damage bending the shell.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

nope, dont talk nonsense, its where i decked it one with the side of my fist after an argument.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

it was way better when i bought it for 2 grand all those years ago.

I would say £1500 would have been enough, but they did get a sweet engine

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

overpaid, yes, i always used millers nanotech oil 10w60 on this at 65 quid for 5 liters, so engine should be good,

je dirais que la somme demande (les 2000) sont pas forcément justifier si l'acheteur avait controler le choc du parechoc ar dans le panier de la roue de secours. dommage les attaches du capot,toutefois les dessous (chassis et rouille) sont pas si mal !

Defo one to be saved. It'll never be a show car like but with some money spent and some half decent body work it'll be a great little hobby car to be used and enjoyed. I think they're really cool 😎

Hmm its a real 50/50 car. You want a solid underneath....check. and a good engine....seems ok.another check. The owners gunna have to put at least 5k into the body and paint. Not sure if the bonnet can be repaired or best to replace.

another not obvious thing would be the lack of/missing rear brake compensator valve, but again. that could of been replaced by now.. my mechanic bypassed that at the time and done some custom work to set the brakes up without it there. it was buggered and we couldn't get another one and couldnt even rebuild it.

@GrainGrown

Ай бұрын

could *have, not "of"...

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

@@GrainGrown what is it with you wierdos saying all this random non sensical crap that doesnt relate at all to a CAR VIDEO? im not interested in grammar...

Only for parts..

You: dent in roof Me: thats had a massive rear ender You: shows rear end Me: ooooohhhhhhhhhh....😢 That is fubard.

omg.......my old 20vt.....

£2000 very well spent I'd say.

@ItaliaAutos

Ай бұрын

As long as it's going to be painted.

where is the maf if that turbo inlet pipe is that short? i didnt think you could have the maf angled so much.

@ItaliaAutos

Ай бұрын

I'm going the cambelt next week so I'll give it a bigger check over then.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

​@@ItaliaAutos nice mate, im getting my floor pan welded up and the dents pulled soon, as the rust has now rotted right through to big holes, then getting cambelt, crank n cam phase sensors, steering belt and tensioner/pulley, manifold and new stage 3 hyrbid turbo fitted in the next few weeks. jeez its going to cost :/

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

@@ItaliaAutos looking forward to the content, i always ment to get the cambelt done on my old sprinty, but sadly left it with 18k miles overdue

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

@@ItaliaAutos whats she on now with the mileage?

Eeek depends what you want to make of it i guess .... as a road car it's a shed 😮

Very good underneath for a 1997 UK car but all the old underseal needs to come off, it fails after 10+ years and lets water through to secretly rust away underneath.

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

1998 mate. i should know, i owned it for 3 years from 2012.

Ouch

how has it been so damn neglected?! petrolheads workshop owned this after i did, used it on track a little, then sold it to the current owner i believe.

I think I would have spent a bit more on a better car - there is a big bill coming for that bodywork despite all the good bits you highlighted.

Scrap it

Ok for 2k if the owner has another 8k to spend on it.

@ItaliaAutos

Ай бұрын

Other than body issues it's a really good car. I'd save it.

@johnmcdonnell81

Ай бұрын

@@ItaliaAutosSure most cars are worth saving if that's what the owner wants. How much to do the bodywork alone?

Classic "boy racer" air filter - will they ever learn!!

Its bad but if you have enough money it could be returned to being ok

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

it was absolutely mint when i took ownership in 2011/2012, now its wrecked, but its only the 5 speed version which is less desirable.

If you’re a fake you want your drive to fake it. Does a crumpled rear count as a mod? 🤣

what an abomination 😂 Who destroys car like this ?

@lloyde-t5n

Ай бұрын

ikr

"Would of" is what uneducated people think "Would've" is. "Would've" does NOT sound like "would of", and is a contraction of "Would have". So, if you want everyone you meet to think you are ignorant, please keep using "would of".

@Markycarandbikestuff

29 күн бұрын

It's called an ACCENT, wind your neck in.

Great car but they are ugly AF!

@johnmcdonnell81

Ай бұрын

Got to agree, couldn't get on with looks so never considered one and never will.

@johnmoruzzi7236

Ай бұрын

Chris Bangle ! 😅