I love em both but there's just something about the LT1 cars.

@andylinke5818

7 ай бұрын

Totally agree! Lt1s sound so good

@lazylion420

2 ай бұрын

this is what you say when you can't find or afford an LS1 🥲

Having owned and driven both, my observation is 0-60 LT1 60-120 LS1. I'm a fan of low end torque. I prefer the LT1 stock vs stock.

@bigjohnharvey

8 ай бұрын

Well said!!

Beautiful cars, but has to be some of the worst racing I've ever seen in my life. I owned a 1997 WS6 back in the day. Mine was an auto. Red in color. I absolutely love the car. I had all the popular bolt-ons at the time. I had an exhaust, gear, underdrive pulley, cold air induction modifications made to the hood, coil, and a few other things. I can't remember everything back in the day. I remember when the 1998 WS6 with the LS1 came out. I lined up with a bone stock one and raced it several times. I was so disappointed because it pulled on me every single time. I wound up putting 150 shot of nitrous on it shortly after that. The LS1 was a game changer in my opinion. LT1 at the time was an amazing motor as well. I also had an lt4 in my Grand sport in that was a killer motor back in 1996. Those are both beautiful cars though. I still love the looks of the 1998 WS6. I think it's one of the most aggressive looking muscle cars to this day.

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

Good story. Appreciate it. As the video says we were just having fun, nothing more than that.

@DoctorHemi

Жыл бұрын

Looking back, it would have been nice if GM had made '97 F-bodies a full year of factory production LT4 cars. The LT4 was the first-gen 350's best (and final) form. It would be nice to see stock LT4 cars line up with stock LS1 cars. The LS1 would have still bested it, but probably not by much.

Stock for stock the LS1 should be a little faster..

I love the body panels of the lt1 and the power plant of the ls1. (I will never do opti again)

@philhamilton8731

Ай бұрын

Don't buy a cheap Opti and do your maintenance and they aren't an issue

I miss pontiac. 92 firehawk is my favorite

@bigjohnharvey

5 ай бұрын

92 is awesome!

Was this a 60mph to 75mph race? As soon as the ls1 started to pull, they shut down the race.

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly it was around 40 to 100. As video states we were just having fun. Of course we all know the 1/4 mile outcome. But, you can see the LT1 low torque take a nice jump.

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@Ryan 9638 Both are automatic.

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@Ryan 9638 Exactly

@erok3738

3 жыл бұрын

@Ryan 9638 ahhhh both LT1 and LS1 got the same 6 speed in manual cars 🤦

@alsmith7270

3 жыл бұрын

@Ryan 9638 and the Corvette, but it was put back on the rear end.

I own a 97 trans am an 2000 both are great cars

He messed that LT-1 up wit all that autozone special, im'a Mexican lookin Trans -Am. It ran like it looked too 😂💯

@bigjohnharvey

2 жыл бұрын

Bought stock for 8K. After decals sold for 14K.

@silverdollar7594

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey 😂🤣😂👌🏾

Cool race. Great cars. Ive got LTx and LSx motors in two cars...they both have their advantages...personal preference i guess....

@bigjohnharvey

19 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Awesome

@SE-fm2nw

18 күн бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey The world is a better place with these kinds of shenanigans!

My brother owned a 2000 WS6, all stock, and would pull low 13s in Nevada in terrible conditions, in the right conditions the ls a 12 sec car from from the factory, which is hella impressive

@bigjohnharvey

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely impressive indeed. And by 2002 they added the truck cam which gave the low end tourqe missed in the LT1 engine. My 02 is a beast.

@jameskester7745

Жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey true that, he raced LTs, and they really weren't a match. Plus I believe the hp ratings were low from the factory to not to compete with the vette

I have the 97 with a 6 speed I love mine

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

I need a 6 speed some day!

@felixector9523

3 жыл бұрын

I had a 95 with a 6 speed I miss mine..got totaled by a drunk driver

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry man. That sucks. Any plans for another?

@erok3738

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey I got a 6 speed in a 99 n 97 ws6s. slap on a short throw shifter on the Tremec its the only way to roll

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@@erok3738 Thank for the info.

LT Juan FTW

love both but personally love the older I have a 96 same color but unfortunately no t top

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

I usually have the t-top covers on anyway.

@taleoftwobirds7155

3 жыл бұрын

Hotrods are hard tops :)

@tonywhite8162

3 жыл бұрын

All you gotta do is cut that roof Sir, they all are T-tops

awsome video buying a ws6 97 lt1 wasnt sure if the 98 ls1 was better.

@bigjohnharvey

4 жыл бұрын

I have had 2 LS1's and 2 LT's. LT1 has all its torque down low at only 2200 RPM's. Way more fun to drive.

@bigjohnharvey

4 жыл бұрын

Search my channel. My last video has this car for sale. Watch it. Make an offer.

@seankeys5384

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey I'm shocked that LS1 didn't take him

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@@seankeys5384 if you look at the 0to60 times there is hardly a difference. Plus the LT1'S low end torque give it that initial jump. By the time the LS catches up, the race is over. So it does balance out. I would say on a 1/4 mile the Ls1 is only 1 car length ahead at best. Both these cars are stock. Actually the LS has a cat back exhaust.

@seankeys5384

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey yeah from my experience of driving them both the LS1 is damn stronger up top so I'm sure if it gets the jump over the LT1 out the hole it would be a comfortable quarter-mile win and should win most of the time

What was that? 50 to 62mph?

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

Approx. 40 mph to 95 mph.

I don't like the optispark crap but I think the LT1 sounds better stock for stock.

@Someguy6571

7 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with optispark. It’s just in an inconvenient place that’s all. With proper care and maintenance of the water pump and optispark they will last a lifetime. Also not buying cheap parts as well. A cheap opti will always cause more headache.

@TexasNEV

7 ай бұрын

@@Someguy6571 Yeah for sure.. I heard the aftermarket MSD(?) replacements are really good too.

@Someguy6571

7 ай бұрын

@@TexasNEV Honestly? I have heard there has been A LOT of issues surrounding the MSD units. Mostly cheap China optical sensors going out due to heat. I have been looking around and it seems either to try and get an ACDelco remanufactured unit or a Petris Enterprises optispark because they still use a Mitsubishi grade optical sensor. Also a lot of the reason for premature optispark failure is like I mentioned before. People either get a cheap China replacement unit or impropery install the water pump which causes it to leak. I have a 1997 T/A WS6 with 85k on it and have zero issues with the optispark or water pump. It's all in how a person takes care of their car that matters really.

@TexasNEV

7 ай бұрын

@@Someguy6571 Excellent context, thanks for that. :)

Man, that transmission is like a old union worker. Slow as fuck.

@bigjohnharvey

2 жыл бұрын

Lol!

Common guys, get somebody to ride with you and film! That 97’ needs a cat delete done, and a throttle body’s washing..

@bigjohnharvey

4 жыл бұрын

Coming soon. Working on a Camaro to Trans am conversion!

Right on ...97 ws6 myself. But....man....that's some of the worst racing I have ever seen.....not very squared up......but keep it up and try again ...thanks for the video...

@mattpelekanos4818

4 жыл бұрын

Dan Bristow I agree 100% what the hell are they doing !!!

@danbristow7581

4 жыл бұрын

Lol...not really sure...but... they must be good guy's....they have impeccable taste in automobiles..lol...Hey guy's!! How about do a proper rematch video...for Me and Mr. Pelekanos and the rest of your audience ...that would be fantastic.... I got $20 on the LT1...

@bigjohnharvey

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO! I appreciate the feedback guys. Remember, the caption says "Having fun with 2 classic Trans Ams!! That's all we were doing. Don't really see us beating on these two beautiful surviving cars with only 42K miles on each one.

@seankeys5384

4 жыл бұрын

@@danbristow7581 I got a hundred on the LS1

@seankeys5384

3 жыл бұрын

@@danbristow7581 I got 50 on the LS1

MY 95 Firehawk would have been interesting to see race..!!😁😁

@bigjohnharvey

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I think it would have taken the race. 95 hawk is a beast.

SFI 3.8 turbo intercooler

Dat LT❤️

I can’t believe the Lt1 was faster than the Ls1 is that true?

@bigjohnharvey

23 күн бұрын

Just for a short while. LT1 has more low end torque. The LS1 pulls later for the narrow win almost always.

I own both an LS-1 and LT-1 this was a laugh, LS1 destroys the LT1. Kid driving that LS1 needs lessons.

@bigjohnharvey

3 ай бұрын

97 was 14 seconds in the 1/4 mile and the 98 was 13.5 Destroy???? Grow up.

The little boy can’t really drive….He needs to just play with his phone…

I Have 1995 t top lt1 6 speed manual I really love! That car

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

I had a 95 white formula with t-tops and tan cloth interior back in 95. Awesome car!! A beast for its time. The WS6 97 in the video was absolutely more powerful. Couldn't believe it.

Sorry ls1 kid can’t drive .. was too busy worrying about filming instead of driving , honked and didn’t even take off till a good 2 seconds after last honk lmaoo 😂😂 that’s why he lost… sorry I had both 3 of each tbh … and no way in hell that stock lt1 285hp beating a ls1 stock 340hp … I gapped EVERY lt1 with my 01 ws6 AUTO … i do respect n love my lt1 motors tho , they do hide that rage deep down with power

@bigjohnharvey

5 ай бұрын

Lighten up Francis, as the video states, just having fun with 2 classic cars. ;)

@zackb7207

5 ай бұрын

Lighten up Francis ? I don’t see what you’re saying but yeah cool I get it have fun , just stating my COMMENT that NOW I’m updating cause I didn’t peep dad was driving the lt1 and kid in the ls1 …. Explains it all , yeah gotta teach him to punch it as the last honk hits … PS them gold trim lines gotta go on that car … looks familiar tbh but it’d look a lot better all black like it’s ls1 buddy

People sleep on LT1's but they are just as capable as LS1's. Sure, they have a few more buggaboo's and the aftermarket support isn't there like it is for LS but they are good engines.

@bigjohnharvey

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely correct. We were just having fun during the early stages of covid. The 97 WS6 was just as capable as the 98 LS1. I'm sure at the track the LT would loose by a car and a half. But the low end tourqe made it more enjoyable to drive. It was an absolute tire shredder. I now have an 02 WS6.

If either of these dudes knew how to race this video would have been informative

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

Says having fun with 2 classics dude. Not a scientific experiment. Thanks for sharing.

@boner6003

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey I’m just jerking your chain. I have had both currently have a 00 with 45k on it. Just curious to see the actual difference

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@@boner6003 these both have 40K miles on them the 98 I sold to someone who is now my good bud. Car was a museum piece. I had to sell it. Drove me nuts to drive it. Than I came across the 97 in Quakertown PA. 70 year old gentleman had in the garage. Absolutely mint as well. It was such a treat to get these 2 WS6 cars together over covid. 98 actually developed a heater coil leak early and we did not want to go nuts. Sold the 97 recently. Have an 02 pewter now.

Lol that 97 at the beginning looks terrible with the bandit stripes

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

Massive compliments on that car. Sold it super super fast for 14K.

@captainofiron

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey hhahaha, I'll keep my 97 ws6 jet black thanks

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@@captainofiron tried to sell when it was black. Nothing. As soon as I did the decals the interest was off the hook. Sold immediately.

@captainofiron

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigjohnharvey guess nostalgia overpowers good taste

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@@captainofiron the car has less decals than an 02 yellow special edition. You are talking complete nonsense as that car gets the most money.

That proved absolutely nothing

Take the “VS” of the title

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

Add another "f" to your "of"

@solidstreetrunz3956

3 жыл бұрын

Trans Am Talk this isn’t English class and this isn’t a race

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@@solidstreetrunz3956 In English it says having fun with 2 classic cars. In English it does not say having a scientific race. When both cars hit the gas, it was a 98 vs a 97.

@solidstreetrunz3956

3 жыл бұрын

Trans Am I clearly stated “title”

@bigjohnharvey

3 жыл бұрын

@@solidstreetrunz3956 The only way to settle this is your G37 vs my 02 WS6.

Auto ls1 and lt1 are ghey

@bigjohnharvey

Ай бұрын

Both auto

dude in the LS1 CANNOT drive. i own both a 2000 LS1 WS-6 and a modded LT1 Z/28. it isn't much of a race, my LS1 torch's the LT1 over and over again. i love both cars, but it seemed to me the ''driver'' in that LS1 wasn't even trying. why even bother making a video.

Sorry but those cars are fugly.

@user-sq1nd6km5u

7 ай бұрын

Stop looking at the mirror.