Great chat, thank you both. Lots of food for thought there. Really appreciate you sharing your insights. Here in Australia we have Affirmation Only and a refusal to inquire into what's happening in our gender clinics, even despite detransitioners etc sharing their stories and parents pleading for proper, evidence based help.

I am a graduate level registered nurse working in behavioral health and I found this podcast to be very illuminating. I am the ultimate, on the ground, “drug pusher,” my job is to make sure…I am the one that actually talks the patients into swallowing the prescribed pills that have been ordered for their condition, I am appalled and physically sickened by my job description in order to earn the paycheck I need to survive. I would never knowingly harm anyone and I’m questioning what to do (career wise) for a job to help be a servant to those in need when I have over $100,000 in student loan debt. Please advise.

@nineteenfortyeight6762

4 ай бұрын

Public service loan forgiveness?

@Knuck_Knucks

4 ай бұрын

Rough. 🐿

@andreagascoigne6735

4 ай бұрын

Could you continue with the Psychology route and specialise in a different demographic - such as couselling adults / CBT practitioner ? Or, could you train online to **teach** the specialty you currently practice in ? Also - in the UK there is an area of practice called Motivational Interviewing : a Motivational Interviewer helps people with issues such as alcohol addiction and supports them to turn their lives around..... Finally, with your background, you could become a professional Mediator : Mediators are often needed in large corporations or in healthcare settings when there are personal disputes/breakdowns in professional relationships .... Xxx

Thank you for your explanation and exploration of the Dutch protocol. I've been listening to various proponents of transitioning and have gleaned that the idea of puberty blockers came from adults who were unhappy with their results. Instead of addressing the real reason they were unhappy (no one can actually change sex), the doctors and patients came up with this idea of puberty blockers and pushed it without any testing or thought of what the other consequences would be. Thank you for explaining where this idea came from.

Two excellent voices on this topic. I really appreciate this perspective from therapists who are clearly thoughtful, introspective, observant, and not easily influenced or pressured by cultural "norms."

“…I didn’t value my own identity enough…” Mic drop 🎤🔥

Re: the diaper thing, I think this is just a paraphilia same as AGP. Paraphilias typically develop at a young age and stay with the person for life. The person who pursues the interest of their paraphilia usually does see it as part of their sexuality-namely that it is not only done for sexual arousal, but also done for comfort. ABDLs, furries, AGPs, even that guy who married his car-there is a comfort component, it is not arousing 24/7. I think this how Phil Illy arrived at his conclusion that AGP is a sexuality, because it can feel that way to the person who engages in it. However, I would still call it a paraphilia because it is atypical sexual behavior and has nothing to do with sexual orientation (not gay, straight, or bisexual).

@boogiemcsploogie

4 ай бұрын

AGP really does feel like an orientation unto itself, but I respect the views of people who don't see it that way, it's impossible to relate an experience to a non-experience. In the self-aware AGP community of which I am a part, it seems the vast majority of us suffered severe emasculation trauma as young children, leading to a paraphilia and identity fragmentation that strongly resembles a dissociative disorder.

@Jane-ow7sr

4 ай бұрын

​@@boogiemcsploogie the emasculation bit is what I was thinking about since they mentioned diapers, crossdressing, and other child related or feminine things. Even the car makes sense. Now, I have no knowledge about any of this stuff but my assumption is that these people were probably brought up in a female majority environment or had an abusive male figure or absent male figure who taught them nothing which pushes them towards more feminine comforts that are associated with running to "mom", childhood comforts etc.

This interview is a gem, but also terrifying

@user-nd6ih7uq3j

25 күн бұрын

I was like yikes

Thanks!

5:18 If anyone’s first exposure to GI was actual facts about the surgical/psychological pioneers and the first attempts, they’d be put off the concept from go.

surgeons and med orgs do!!! Thanks Sara and Stephanie.

I'd bet that the transwoman phenomenon is a result of the newly found and observed privileges of a hot woman in screen world. Who - in some ways - wouldn't want that degree of attention?

You may know this, but my personal experience is you can not really know until you begin or go through puberty that you are the sex you were born as. To put kids on puberty blockers so they can discover who they really are is ridiculous. There is way too much discussion to kids about puberty, they are being scared. It is rough for most of us and we get through it.

Could it be possible that sexual repression and shame around any kind of sexual conduct, even healthy responsible sexual conduct, that is put on religious people as children, can cause sexual desires to be pushed down and then later pop up as things like AGP and diaper wearing?

@boogiemcsploogie

4 ай бұрын

I can only speak to the AGP perspective, it seems the vast majority of us were already sensitive and shy boys, but also suffered severe emasculation trauma as young children. The mind sexualized the trauma and voila! Now we're stuck with this weird sexuality that only works via feminization fantasies.

This is shocking in so many ways

Ooh, sounds like this is gonna be a hell of an episode.

There's a redemption arch for alomost anyone. But it exists in a 'spectrum', like everything else these days. 🐿

1:11:15 Stephanie's reaction to porn addiction is surprising too. It's not surprising to have kids with porn addiction, nor should they be considered wrong for it, they just need help if it is messing up their lives.

Remember Jordan Peterson got very ill too just as his word was catching 🔥 You are being tested, talk with jordan We love you and yes, I’ll find my way to locals dang it! Love ya!!

Kind of a judgmental reaction at 30:35 by Stephanie. Many religious men are big gun lovers, but most people would not consider that to be weird in a Christian. But it's weird for a person with a fetish to be (or at least think of themselves as) a Christian or a religious person? Stephanie seems shocked that this lady has a clientele that is not what she had assumed about them.

@bastetowl3258

4 ай бұрын

she was surprised that they supposedly don’t watch pornography. you’re really going to defend sexual fetishists now?

32:33 I’m surprised how novel ABDL seems to be to you, Ms. Winn. *_Wait until she sees all the other things!_*

@AnthonyL0401

4 ай бұрын

I was not pleased with her judgmental response to this phenomenon on a public podcast. It's unprofessional, to be honest, because other people might see her response and never get help with it if they need it. Sarah, on the other hand, was amazingly compassionate.

@troll_kin9456

4 ай бұрын

She was so shocked to hear about spiritual men who wear diapers; it's like she's never seen Gandhi before!

@miroirs-jumeaux

4 ай бұрын

I liked her reaction, it just gave me the thought “oh sweet summer child!”