9 Songs That 'Rip Off' Other Songs
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I've made various videos in the past about songs that seemingly rip off, or at least borrow from, other hit songs that came before them. But there are still plenty more examples of these dubious likenesses in pop songs, so today we'll be looking at nine more examples of songs that are based on other songs.
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SOURCES:
Interview with Paul McCartney (2007): www.avclub.com/paul-mccartney...
Interview with Ray Davies (2014): web.archive.org/web/201411280...
Avril Lavinge sued, MTV (2007): www.mtv.com/news/j2jqc3/avril...
Rod Stewart’s autobiography: archive.org/details/rodautobi...
Streissguth, M. Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison: The Making of a Masterpiece: ereader.perlego.com/1/book/12...
Interview with David Whitaker (2001): web.archive.org/web/201403190...
Will Champion of Coldplay on copyright lawsuits, MusicRadar (2009): www.musicradar.com/news/guita...
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0:00 Introduction
0:28 TLC vs. Paul McCartney
1:29 Michael McDonald vs. Chuck Jackson
2:25 Avril Lavinge vs. The Rubinoos
3:32 Do Ya Think Rod's Sexy?
5:38 Elton John vs. Speedy Gonzales
6:35 Pianote
7:33 Johnny Cash vs. Gordon Jenkins
8:38 The Doors vs. The Kinks
9:36 Bitter Sweet Symphony vs. The Last Time
11:26 Viva La Vida vs. Joe Satriani, Cat Stevens & some other band that no one's heard of
14:24 Patreon
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@BeesWaxMinder
Жыл бұрын
IF they included a Saxophone Class I’d be ALL OVER this deal 😂
@klaxoncow
Жыл бұрын
9 songs? Couldn't you find just one more to make it a top 10?
@RicG.
Жыл бұрын
Lady A's "Need You Now" rips off Alan Parson Project's "Eye in the Sky". There are several smashups on KZread that points out the similarities. "Eye in the Sky" was release in 1982. "Need You Now" was released in 2009.
@BeesWaxMinder
Жыл бұрын
@@klaxoncow 🤣👍
@niveketihw1897
Жыл бұрын
@@klaxoncow Here's one more. Can't post links, but look these two up: 1. Blinker the Star -- Below the Sliding Doors 2. The Helicopter Of The Holy Ghost - Tony Got A Car (from Afters) Listen all the way through, to each, and tell me if you think #2 is an homage or a rip off of #1.
The George Harrison 'My sweet lord' Vs Chiffons 'He's so fine' Is a classic, ended costing George a fortune and the publishing, but the funny thing is years later The publishing came up for sale and George bought it, so not only did he own the rights to his own song he owed the rights to 'He's so fine' 😂😂
@AutPen38
Жыл бұрын
Harrison was effectively "forced" to buy the Chiffons' catalogue as part of the settlement of the case. The man that sold it was... Allen Klein, a man who made millions from other people's songs.
@bettyswunghole3310
Жыл бұрын
I've a feeling Allen Klein had his grubby hands on this one, too... ...the guy sounds like he was a *_really_* nasty piece of work...
@Eyeluvlola
Жыл бұрын
Again blame Allen Klein for that one too.
@AutPen38
Жыл бұрын
@@bettyswunghole3310 I don't know if Allen Klein was a particularly nasty person, but he was one of the first to realize that there was much more money in publishing than in actually creating music or managing bands. The whole system is unfair, since you could spend your time writing and playing songs, but only get 5% of the money (depending on the contract), while the publisher got 7% or 10% for owning the rights to the sheet music or the mastertapes. It evidently makes more business sense to buy other people's songs than write them yourself! Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson were among the artists that realised that buying the catalogues of other artists could be just profitable as writing their own songs. (In a curious irony, Michael Jackson's publishing company ended up owning loads of Beatles songs). I don't know the specifics, but I heard that Taylor Swift was "swindled" by the publisher of her early albums, so she's been re-recording them so that she owns the masters of the new versions and can control their licensing and get a fairer share of the royalties. It's a really murky business, with lots of men in suits buying catalogues of music dirt cheap, causing the artists to receive a one-off payment (that is very tempting when you're a newbie) but then lose out on long-term income. Then again, you have companies like Hipnosis buying the catalogues of Bob Dylan and Justin Bieber for hundreds of millions of dollars. Those lump sums must be tempting for the artist to "sign their rights away", as they obviously won't earn that much from royalties in the rest of their lifetimes. (I struggle to understand how Hipnosis will ever earn its money back, unless it's still gonna be around in a hundred years!)
@billybandyk0720
Жыл бұрын
@@AutPen38 Saul Zaentz must b a protégé of Allen Klein.
As a songwriter the scariest stories are the ones like from Rod Stewart where he felt he came up with a song of his own only to find out a melody he heard once got stuck in the back of his head and inadvertently came out. Beware the song that seems to "write itself" which is why I'm always dubious when I dream a "new" melody.
@kassemir
Жыл бұрын
I mean, realistically you'd need success on the level of Rod Stewart first, before fearing any kind of law suit :D
@tonycook1624
Жыл бұрын
That was McCartney's reaction when he woke up with Yesterday - he spent weeks trying to find out if it was somebody elses
@frankfrank7921
Жыл бұрын
@@kassemir I never said I was afraid of a lawsuit, I would just hate to think I wrote a great song, put in all the effort of recording and mixing a demo and then realize it sounds an awful lot or directly copied someone else's song. Clear enough for you?
@JS-wi9mw
Жыл бұрын
i hear you. its def a real thing. i did it subsconsciouly last week while humming a tune out for a walk. its only after realizing i had heard something similar a few days earlier was i able to recall it. i left feeling that my take was original enough, diff key, diff timbre, most of it quite diff that now i do not hear the similarities at all, but i'm still glad i caught it while in the process as some have not and paid the price. i think what helps is i have an extensive background djing many styles of music over past 30 years but am only just now arriving at writing songs. so in many cases what i come up with is quite derivative, sometimes intentionally just so i can learn the ropes of what makes a 'good' melody or muscial idea. but i always tend to toss it in the trash as i see it as a learning tool. then occassionally, here and there something that is quite original emerges and i go with it. i cross ref if i have knowingly lifted anything and if i cannot recall, even after a few days im satisfied and keep it. who knows where original creation comes from but it certainly HAS to happen in some instances or else we would have nothing of manufactured value in our material world.
@jamesdignanmusic2765
Жыл бұрын
Yup. I've played new ideas to friends before, thinking they must have been written by other people first. It can be unnerving.
I wonder if the writer of “twinkle twinkle little star” got a chance to sue the writer of “The ABCs Song” 😂😂😂
@edgara1153
4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Lol This is how stupid some of these examples sound.
@TheTrumpReaper
Ай бұрын
Don't forget Baa Baa Black Sheep.
@tdotwitch
Ай бұрын
They were all taken from a Mozart song 😂
An infamous case involved the flute hook from Men at Work’s mega hit song “Down Under”. It was inspired by the Australian 1930s children’s song Kookaburra. However, it wasn’t brought to action until years later. The flute player, Greg Ham, was deeply affected by the plagiarism allegations that he thought destroyed his legacy, and that of the song. Tragically, after the case went against Men at Work, Greg spiraled into depression and drug addiction that led to his death. In my opinion Greg’s work on that part was wonderful and very tasteful. Down Under is basically an Australian anthem, and Kookaburra fits in perfectly as a nod to their history and culture. Who would believe that a few lines from a 50 year old children’s song would drag you into court.
For "Bittersweet Symphony," the Verve never should have had to give up ALL songwriting credit. Regardless of how much of the music was borrowed (with permission, or so they thought), the lyrics were theirs, not the Rolling Stones', Andrew Oldham's, Allen Klein's, or David Whitaker's. I think they should have shared the songwriting credit with Whitaker and paid some royalties to Klein, but they definitely shouldn't have had to give up all credit.
@jamesdignanmusic2765
Жыл бұрын
Klein was a notorious (insert insult here). He'd have sued his own children for plagiarising his DNA.
@Zveebo
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Their use was transformational enough that they absolutely deserved to retain credit. Sucks that they don’t get anything for what is an absolute classic of a song.
@Zveebo
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Their use was transformational enough that they absolutely deserved to retain credit. Sucks that they didn’t get anything for what is an absolute classic of a song until the Rolling Stones did the right thing eventually.
@briankinney1871
Жыл бұрын
Based on Wikipedia it sounds like Oldham was still credited for the lyrics, but not for the music, at least according to the liner notes.
@juliannaelwell
Жыл бұрын
the verve didnt steal ANYTHING from the rolling stones though, only from the composer of that orchestral arrangement- which happened to be of a rolling stones song- who received zero royalties
I remember when Vanilla Ice got chastised terribly for ripping off Pressure. Years later, I've come to the realization that his statements were absolutely spot-on and they match what the guy from Coldplay said. Essentially, no one really cares about copyright until you make lots of money.
@piteusx8440
Жыл бұрын
Yes and no. You have to look at the melody/context. Queen deserved some royalties for the obvious sample. Some ... but not the majority. It was too obvious to all.
@nimrodery
Жыл бұрын
Critics actually liked the song and the sample, it was Suge Knight that "chastised" him. My recollection is a bit different, I remember it was a number one single that made his career. He later settled with Queen management but I think he had already paid for its use when Suge visited.
@lordprotector3367
Жыл бұрын
@@nimrodery What about David Bowie?
@nimrodery
Жыл бұрын
@@lordprotector3367 He was given a wet noodle and told to ride some spiders to Mars.
@SmartCookie2022
Жыл бұрын
@@lordprotector3367 Technically the bassline was created by John Deacon, not Bowie, or any other band member. Only from 1987 did Queen start sharing songwriting credits equally, regardless of who conceived each song.
Waterfalls is such a great song. I had no idea the first line was possibly “co-opted” 😮
@brotheldan2009
4 ай бұрын
Theyre strecthing that idea imo, completely bs
It's funny, I only recently heard the McCartney "Waterfalls" song, and the lyrics immediately struck me as shockingly similar to the more well-known (to me) TLCsong, to the point that I wondered whether the essential idea of "Don't follow dangerous waterfalls, please stick to safe lakes" was some old saying that both were quoting. Genuinely surprised to learn it's original to McCartney; makes me think even more highly of his lyric-writing ability since it's a poignant expression of concern using involving vivid imagery and analogy. This being the case, its originality makes it seem almost guaranteed that whoever wrote the TLC song was influenced by McCartney. But again, to give McCartney credit, his quote about the whole thing sounds more amused than upset--and certainly he wasn't litigious. Pretty laid back guy. And now I'm wondering about a similar pair that David didn't mention: "Blackbird" and "Broken Wings." Just like McCartney/TLC's "waterfall/lake" line, I've always assumed "take these broken wings and learn to fly" is some old homily that both McCartney and Mister Mister included because it's a lovely expression of triumphing over vulnerability. I'm gonna have to check if I've been wrong about that one too. If so I will *really* be even more impressed by Paul, and I didn't think that was possible! (I'm guessing it did already exist, but I'll be really psyched to find out it's Paul's.) Edited to add: Holy crap. I'm not finding an earlier source of that specific line. (The idea of mending broken wings in the sense of being emotionally or spiritually injured, and then being able to fly, is of course not a new one. I'm talking about this particular expression of them.) Am going to ask around & do more research.
@kiwilerner
11 ай бұрын
Incredibly... it does appear to be McCartney's phrase. Mister Mister's song, according to lyricist John Lang, was overall influenced by a 1912 novel called "The Broken Wings," but the line itself is not in the book. Richard Page (singer & co-writer) said in an interview about the similar lines that he always thought McCartney was influenced by the same book. But everything I'm reading by Paul or music historians about the writing of "Blackbird" indicates that the lyrics were not at all connected to a specific source like that. (The music, specifically the guitar accompaniment and not the melody, was loosely inspired by a Bach piece, as McCartney has mentioned and demonstrated often.) So in short: um, wow!
@buggyboogle9
4 ай бұрын
>>>But again, to give McCartney credit, his quote about the whole thing sounds more amused than upset--and certainly he wasn't litigious. Pretty laid back guy. I don’t think he’s that laidback. I think McCartney knows the history and the difficulty of litigating song publishing ownership. For the longest time, starting from around 1967, he owned a very small percentage (20%?) and eventually even less of a share in the song publishing rights to The Beatles song catalogue. Arguably the most expensive music catalogue in the business, and yet he had so little rights to it. And he was very upset when Michael Jackson bought the rights to the songbook in the 1980s. In 2017 he brought a lawsuit against Sony to try regain publishing rights to The Beatles catalogue, as there had been a change in Copyright Law, which made him eligible to recover his rights. The matter was finally settled out of court and although the conditions have not been made public, it is assumed McCartney now has more ownership rights to The Beatles Songbook than before 2017. It was very long and hard slog, for his own work.
jorge ben jor is one of brazil's best artists ever. it's so great seeing him getting his deserved recognition!
@gemasabados
Жыл бұрын
simmm! samba esquema novo is in my heart
@raphmayer
Жыл бұрын
There's a Brazilian song that was plagiarized that should be in the following video. It is “Mulheres” by Martinho da Vila, which Adele took it to make “A Million Years Ago.”
@1607fernando
Жыл бұрын
amém
@friedemannkemm63
Жыл бұрын
Another case of a Brazilian artist being copied is the famous riff of Smoke On The Water, which is taken from Maria Moira by Carlos Lyra.
@darthbakercamelia
Жыл бұрын
I agree with that statement. Incredible music!
One of the worst cases, very well known here in Australia, was Men at Work's "Down Under", the flute part of which was coincidentally similar to an old Australian song "Kookaburra". The ensuing case is widely viewed by Australians as one of the most egregious and frivolous suits, with the fallout eventually contributing to the suicide of one of the band members.
@giabgr
Жыл бұрын
And it was just a flute lick that occupies precisely one bar of the song.
@NewFalconerRecords
Жыл бұрын
@@simon_patterson I feel sorry for the founder of Larrikin Music Publishing, Warren Fahey. His name often gets dragged into this conversation even though he'd sold Larrikin to Festival Records in 1995 which was 14 years before the thing went to court. There's an excellent breakdown of this case on KZread where he is interviewed (on the Traxploitation channel). He's still traumatized by the whole thing himself. A tragic affair all round.
@curiousuranus810
Жыл бұрын
I was going to post this reference. It was utterly appalling, particularly since it was some scumbag businessman just out to make money.
@NewFalconerRecords
Жыл бұрын
@Simon Patterson Cheers mate! I just happened to stumble across it one night. Such a tragic story.
@piteusx8440
Жыл бұрын
It was the dumbest copyright lawsuits in history. Furthermore, the original writer of the flute part wouldn't have cared if she was alive. She gave her estate to charity after her death.
Both Waterfalls sound very different to me. Ok, the melodies are vaguely similar with their descending contours but they're otherwise very different, TLC's going down the scale to the tonic while McCartney's incorporates jumps of thirds and fifths and doesn't fall on the tonic. Their chord progressions are very different too. I don't think there's a case even for borrowing here, apart from the waterfall metaphor.
@celinhabr1
11 ай бұрын
The lyrics are very obvious a copy.
@edwardmyles4114
11 ай бұрын
@@celinhabr1 bullshit
@edwardmyles4114
11 ай бұрын
@Jacob Hanson again bullshit
@dinard38
11 ай бұрын
@@edwardmyles4114Not bullshit. No effin way the writers of TLC’s Waterfalls came up with this line that just happens to be almost the same as Paul McCarthy’s song. “Don’t go jumping waterfalls, please keep to the lake” Is not some common phrase. It’s poetic. And the writers of TLC just happened to write an almost exact line on their own?? GTFOH!!!
@edwardmyles4114
11 ай бұрын
@@dinard38 again 🐂 bullshit
I also want to say the Avril song seems very self aware and really falls into the category of art commenting on art.
@SamHell-wr8bi
7 ай бұрын
Same with Crocodile Rock.
Your pop music repertoire is absolutely incredible ✨
You may have covered it before, but Purple Rain by Prince apparently sounded similar enough to the song Faithfully by Journey that Prince actually called up Jonathan Cain to ask for permission (and was given an enthusiastic thumbs up) before releasing the song. Great songs both! 🥰
@adamtzsch
11 ай бұрын
Interesting. Never heard that story despite being a massive fan of Prince for decades.
@ethanweeter2732
11 ай бұрын
Shows how awesome Journey is.
@Ceares
11 ай бұрын
@@ethanweeter2732 Apparently Prince was kind of cool that way as well. The story of Stevie Nicks and Stand Back is a great one. Saw a part of a interview where he was basically saying that the thing that bothered him about people using his songs/music was when it was done without asking and/or through the record companies. taking control away from the original artist.
@JohnnyLovesMariah1990
5 ай бұрын
Reaching
@cgreen399
5 ай бұрын
Love both songs! Now I have listen to them back to back to catch the simularities
This was a brilliant watch. I would love to see your coverage on UB40's Burden of Shame vs Van Morrison's Moondance! 😊😊😊
One example that comes to mind is Bring Me The Horizon’s “Nihilist Blues.” Evanescence got a songwriting credit due to BMTH subconsciously “ripping off” their song “Never Go Back.” Oli Sykes actually directly mentions it on “Underground Big {HEADFULOFHYENA}” in the midst of his rambling monologue. And the best part is that the communication between Amy Lee and Oli Sykes led to her being featured on BMTH’s “One Day the Only Butterflies Left Will Be in Your Chest as You March Towards Your Death.”
Uptown Funk is a great example of multiple people suing over similar melody and rhythmic elements where they can't all be right but they all sued anyway. A few of the suits were dropped, many songwriters were added.
@Kylora2112
Жыл бұрын
Uptown Funk got to be so popular because it was a modern take on all the old funk clichés and just a damn good song.
@gettinhungrig8806
Жыл бұрын
That explains why I see so many writers on a lot of the 'newer' music.
@seanswinton6242
Жыл бұрын
@@Kylora2112 I owned some of recordings that were referred to in "Uptown Funk" like female Rap group Sequence's "Funk Up Right On Up," The Gap Band's "Oops Upside Your Head," I guess because those words were spoken in the song and were recited in thee originals is why he was sued. Strangely, Journey's song "Raised On Radio" names Rock classics in its lyrics. True plagiarism are Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" and the Beach Boys "Surfin' USA."
@Matt_Mosley1983
11 ай бұрын
*Originally, no one sued over this song. The lawsuit brought against BLURRED LINES made the writer's 'decide' to credit another song and include those writers out of fear of a lawsuit due to them being 'the same VIBE' as what won the lawsuit mentioned here. < Because of this, other bands with songs 'with the same VIBE' went after them with fingers crossed.*
In many of these examples, the lyrics and melody are not the same -at all - strikingly so in the TLC/McCartney song and many of the others. Some of this stuff is just absolutely ridiculous, we are running out of combinations. The Blurred Lines ruling was absolutely insane.
@disappt
Жыл бұрын
The necessity of acting on copyright to ensure that it can protect uncompensated artists from unfair exploitation is one of the sad results of the generally unfair economics behind the past and present recording industry.
@MrExplosionFace
Жыл бұрын
@ghost mall The great irony of Paul being upset about that is that the Beatles lifted the first line of "Something" from a James Taylor song. I know it was written by George, but Paul didn't object in that instance.
@Fantumh
Жыл бұрын
@@MrExplosionFace Where does it say Paul was upset? After all he didn't sue.
@smolderingtitan
Жыл бұрын
The melody is completely different in the waterfalls example.
@fourtyseven47572
Жыл бұрын
@ghost mall its not obvious at all lol, songs are completely different.
As ever, a superb video. Always look forward to new ones!
Great video David Bennet. Very informative and interesting. I even discovered some more songs that have copied parts of their melodies from other songs.
My favourite copyright story is the fight between Huey Lewis'' I want a New Drug and Roy Parker Jr.'s Ghostbusters. It was settled but later on Robin Scott of "M" fame pointed out his song Pop Muzic came first. It seems Lewis & Parker copied him. I don't know if Scott sued.
@piteusx8440
Жыл бұрын
Parker definitely stole from Lewis. The producers of Ghostwriters originally asked Huey Lewis to write the theme song. Huey Lewis declined. Coincidentally, Parker came up with a riff very similar to Huey Lewis. Parker paid up ... but the agreement forced Lewis not to speak of it ever.
@lordprotector3367
Жыл бұрын
Come to think of it, ''Ghostbusters' does sound exactly like 'Pop Muzik' .
@CB-xr1eg
Жыл бұрын
Ray* Parker Jr.
@Brian-jk2ih
Жыл бұрын
@Chris Sadowski ummmm mutt Lange wrote we both believe in love. Huey changed 1 line
@lopony7944
11 ай бұрын
RAY not ROY😂
Buffalo Soldier/Banana Splits theme
2:45 that “Hey, You!” Reminds me of Rolling Stones’ Get off of My Back. 🤔
Interestingly, another aspect of Viva La Vida not mentioned here is its string riff, which is also similar to the string riff of Alizee's 'J'en Ai Marre', albeit mainly due to the 4/5/1/6 chord progression. In this case both songs are also in the same key.
Sweet Home Alabama and Werewolves of London (Kid Rock actually combined those two.) and Take the Money and Run (Steve Miller). Down Under (Men at Work) and So Lonely (The Police), though MANY songs have that same chord progression (Springsteen's I'm Going Down, uses it as well.). Whitney Houston's Greatest Love of All and Gordon Lightfoot's If You Could Read My Mind, a section of it at least.
@seanswinton6242
Жыл бұрын
Yes, as I was learning piano I noticed similarities between the Skynyrd song and Zevin's "Werewolves In London."
@tommyhaynes9157
11 ай бұрын
The Stones Midnight Rambler has the same progression as Sweet Home and Werewolves
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Beatles song "Something", which was inspired heavily by "Something In The Way She Moves" by James Taylor...
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
I think George Harrison's "Something" literally just borrowed the title from the James Taylor song. The two songs are really very different and James Taylor even quotes "and I feel fine" in his song! Harrison knew about the James Taylor song because it was released on The Beatles' Apple record label 😊😊
@jasonremy1627
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidBennettPiano true, but in the same way your first two examples just borrowed a line and went in it's own direction, I thought this would fit that idea
@andersjohansson4734
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonremy1627 Well the first two songs have similarities between the first bars of text and melodies, the Something melody sounds nothing like Something In The Way She Moves. Two great songs though!
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonremy1627 yeah good point 😊
@bamacopeland4372
Жыл бұрын
James Taylor in an interview said he didn't think George Harrison intentionally did that, but the last line of something in the way she moves was inspired by I feel fine by the Beatles. So what goes around comes around.
The thing that is the most infuriating to me is not the song similarities, but that so many artists don't own the rights to their songs and thus get no royalties from them!
@SpectraStarShooter
11 ай бұрын
And the record companies will go to court and settle and none of that money goes to the artists 😊
@MichaelGGarry
9 ай бұрын
Because they already sold them.....
@dimitriberozny3729
4 ай бұрын
@@SpectraStarShooterHappened to Badfinger. Their manager and record company fucked over the band members leading them to suicide!!
@SpectraStarShooter
4 ай бұрын
@@dimitriberozny3729 I’m giving you thumbs up, not because I’m happy about the result, but I am appreciative of the knowledge shared
“Don’t You Think I’m Sexy” was a note for note lift . Harmony parts in instrumental arrangements are tough to prove .
Music is an evolutionary thing and as such, something has to have come before. We are all influenced by the sounds we've heard and liked through our lives, many examples going back to childhood. We don't necessarily know where the sounds we liked came from, or if we even made them up ourselves or not, only that it was a sequence of notes that we liked the sound of and it pleased us. For example, there are sequences of notes that I know I like very much, but I can trace that back to hearing my Mum playing Chopin on the piano when I was 4 years old. So, it's not surprising that snippets or even whole passages pop up accidentally from time to time. Given that we've got 12 notes to play with, it's actually quite amazing that there aren't more cases of plagiarism than there are. Our human brains are highly stimulated by combinations of frequencies and rather than remembering a tune we once heard in terms of notes, our brains remember sets of frequencies that pleased it, which can lead you to write a certain piece which you are unknowingly plagiarising, retrospectively. Frequency is everything. Without it, we would cease to be!
I can't believe you didn't mention the "He's So Fine" / "My Sweet Lord" lawsuit.
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
I've actually covered that case in a couple other videos in this series. Check out my "Beatles songs that Rip Off other songs" video 😊😊
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeShawaluk No worries! You can catch the series here: kzread.info/head/PLlx2eo2tD6KrUTSE_8wp7mAGTPfMV0MBf
@John_Fugazzi
Жыл бұрын
He covered that recently in another video.
@sanblasto
Жыл бұрын
Do lyrics count? James Taylor's "Something in the way she moves" was used as the start off point for Harrison's "Something", I believe. Completely different songs, though.
Its crazy sometimes as a musician/ song writer when it's very hard to not let go of a certain melody. I agree with one of the last statements. You hear that melody for those chords and it just makes sense. How do you let go of / alter what sounds right ?
I've got two songs I wrote that use parts of existing melodies- one uses the first bit of Amazing Grace before breaking off into a blues riff, and one that uses a basic military marching cadence before breaking off into a blues riff. Thankfully, those are both open domain... not that I've had any commercial success with them. :/
@kcbh24
5 ай бұрын
I'm sure they are great songs. Do you post them publicly?
You could argue that Crescent City Blues and Folsom Prison Blues are also inspired by Leadbelly's Midnight Special. Music's not the same, but theme and lyrics are similar.
@matthewstarkey7665
Жыл бұрын
@ghost mall Led Zeppelin moment
@supertuscans9512
Жыл бұрын
Why unfortunately?
@jonothanthrace1530
Жыл бұрын
If you could sue for that, country music would be nothing but lawsuits.
This could be a many part series, really.
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
It already is kzread.info/head/PLlx2eo2tD6KrUTSE_8wp7mAGTPfMV0MBf 😊😊
@christopherheckman7957
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidBennettPiano Maybe George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" is there? (Unconsciously lifting the melody line from "One Fine Day").
@APH1991
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherheckman7957. Do you mean He's So Fine by The Chiffons?
@christopherheckman7957
Жыл бұрын
@@APH1991 Yes. I don't know how I got those mixed up.
@AutPen38
Жыл бұрын
The Chiffons' record label was so thrilled with the success of 'He's So Fine' that they quickly snapped up Goffin/King's 'One Fine Day' (which was based on a Puccini aria) as a follow-up. When that 'fine' song hit the top 5, the Chiffons' rushed to the studio to record a third song with "fine" in the title ('A Love So Fine'", which even has backing singers singing 'He's so fine, doo-lang doo-lang' in the background), but it peaked at #40. Three songs, all very similar, all written by different people, and Allen Klein bought them all and then sold them to George Harrison for nearly 600,000 dollars. The performers (the Chiffons) remained so poor that they had to work day jobs while performing at the weekend.
In the 80s I was in a few bands. One of them we recorded a tape in the guitarists bedroom, still got it somewhere in the attic. We only ever played one gig, we didn’t do the song in question. I had a really good synth solo. Role on to a few years ago, Absolute Radio played a song and the keyboard solo was exactly the same as my one, note for note. They had never heard my song, but there’s only 12 notes in an octave and only so many ways to use them. Point being, it’s quite easy to think up your OWN tune only to find out later that others had the same idea previously.
Mick Jagger and Kieth Richard just went up in my estimation. Resolving the controversy with the Verve in such a magnanimous way was a classy move.
@badinfluence3814
11 ай бұрын
Those royalties are like pennies to them and they did nothing to earn them in the first place, to give them back to the creators of the song which earned them is, to put it most generously, nothing more than basic good manners.
@deantodd8103
11 ай бұрын
@@badinfluence3814 Yes. But since good manners are so rare these days, Jagger and Richards seem like superheroes just for having that power. 😉
@lifelikelisa
11 ай бұрын
It took them a long time.
@michaelross1452
11 ай бұрын
Two decades later they quickly resolved the rights issue
@deantodd8103
11 ай бұрын
@@michaelross1452 As many drugs as Jagger and Richards have taken, I'm surprised if they do anything quickly anymore. 😂
Much respect to Tom Petty for not caring to go after Red Hot Chili Peppers for Dani California's similarity to Mary Jane's Last Dance.
@thechief00
Жыл бұрын
he also could have easily won a lot of money by suing Sam Smith for "Stay With Me" (aka "I Won't Back Down") and he chose not to. Tom was a real one.
@obiwan5999
Жыл бұрын
@@thechief00 Petty did sue Smith and they settled for an undisclosed amount.
@twest344
Жыл бұрын
Tom Petty has been plagiarized a few times (and maybe he did the same- "Saving Grace" vs ZZ Top). Interestingly, he never showed interest in suing before "stay with me". "Last Night" by the Strokes was admitted plagiarism, they even admitted that it was a tribute to "American girl". "Dani California" is very similar to "Mary Jane". Both times, Tom said 'bless them' and showed no interest in suing. With "Stay with me", a lawsuit was made, and Tom Petty and Jeff Lynn are now credited as co-writers of the Sam Smith song. Tom was very vocal with an explanation, almost an apology for the lawsuit- My guess (this is my own opinion) is that Tom didn't want to sue, but as he was only a co-writer with someone else on "Won't back down", other parties wanted to push the lawsuit.
@thechief00
Жыл бұрын
@@obiwan5999 yeah it was "Last Nite" by the Strokes that I was thinking of, mixed up the songs.
@obiwan5999
Жыл бұрын
@@thechief00 All good.
The authors of "You raise me up", performed by Josh Groban, were sued by Icelandic author Jóhann Helgason. He claimed that the song "Söknuður" written by him was the inspiration to "You raise me up". I believe the case was thrown out, but there are similarities between the two songs. Also, both are somewhat similar to "Oh Danny boy".
Andrew: An Instrumental named Telstar by the Tornados was sued by French Composer Jean Ludrut because he thought that the tune from Telstar was the same tune from the 1960's film Austerlitz in which Ludrut composed the score the lawsuit was eventually resolved under Meek's favor which was 3 weeks later in which Meek commited suicide on Feb 3rd 1967
The songs 'It Takes Two' by Rob Base & DJ EZ Rock and 'Two To Make it Right' by Seduction both contain the lyrics, "It takes to make a thing go right. It takes to make it out of sight" (albeit some sources credit the Base/Rock song lyrics as 'outta sight' instead of 'out of sight').
According to Wikipedia, the first time a copyright has appeared, it was to be used by the ruling government to have power over the freshly invented printed content. With such a start, no wonder artists sue each over a sentence or a short melody. The copyrights' roots simply are not to defend the original creator, but to exert control.
@kcbh24
5 ай бұрын
Wikipedia isn't a reliable source for information.
I can't remember if you've ever talked about how Sublime's "What I Got" ripped off The Beatles' "Lady Madonna." I'm always surprised that that one rarely gets mentioned in conversations about plagiarism. It's so blatant. Maybe it's because it's not one of The Beatles big hits. My apologies if you've already talked about it.
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
And I can hear what you mean but I think the Sublime song is adequately different. Similar though!!
@charlesboyle9223
Жыл бұрын
Lady Madonna was copied from a Humphrey Lytellton band record. HL said,"It was just a Boogie-Woogie,piano riff and we stole it so why sue?"
@petergreen1869
Жыл бұрын
Yes a complete rip off.
@ronyvanderlinden
Жыл бұрын
Has much more the feel of 'Loser' by Beck. (and heard no resemblance to The Beatles)
Love your videos. Makes me wish I learned music in general, the piano in particular
all of our songs are ripped off from other songs, but it is difficult to recognize them because we change a lot of notes and chords. Everybody does this since Vivaldi, all the classical composers have done it.
A very recent example is "Tattoo" by Loreen (the Swedish Eurovision entry for this year) being accused of ripping off "Flying Free" (1999) by Pont Aeri, and "В плену" (2005) by Ukrainian singer Mika Newton. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any lawsuits yet, but Newton herself (also a former Eurovision competitor) pointed out the similarity with her own song.
As an Australian, it would be downright unpatriotic not to mention "Down Under" by Men At Work, and its flute solo allegedly copying of "Kookaburra" by Marion Sinclair. Despite both songs being insanely popular, this was only "noticed" after it was mentioned on a TV game show almost 30 years after "Down Under" was released, and 20 years after Sinclair died.
I remember I "wrote" a song with the same melody as Culture Club's song "Victims." I had not heard that song for years & when I heard it one day, I realized that I unconsciously plagiarized their song so I can see how that can happen.
@FranklySpeaking.
11 ай бұрын
*brilliant song!*
Check out these 2 early 1960s songs: "APACHE" (Jorgen Ingmann 1960 Original Studios Masters) and The Ramrods - "Ghost Riders In The Sky" (1962). Fast forward the Ramrods to 2:28 and pause. Jorgen starts "Apache" with arrow sounds for 8 seconds and ends at 2:55 with the same opening notes. These opening and ending notes of "Apache" are the same as the ending notes of"Ghost..." note for note. I recorded both on an audio cassette and I play it for friends as one song blends into the other. I discovered this in the 1960s and I wrote a letterr to the editor of Goldmine and asked him to have someone investigate it but nothing came of it. I had tried to contact Claire Lane, the Ramrods's drummer for an interview but she declined. This musical mystery lives on.
The surname Davies in Britain, though sometimes pronounced DAY-veez, is often pronounced DAY-vis or DAY-viz or DAY-vəs. Ray Davies pronounces his surname as DAY-viz (with the z being weakly pronounced). Rod Stewart sings “Oh, Georgie’s dead” in his “The Killing of Georgie Part II” to the tune of “don’t let me down” in “Don’t Let Me Down” by The Beatles. John Lennon noticed (though in an 1980 interview he misremembered which song had copied his) but said that “the lawyers never noticed” and he didn’t care to sue.
This was fascinating. Of course there's a whole minor industry of unknown musicians who regularly sue the writers of big hit songs for plagiarism but they're usually tossed out unless they can prove a connection where the hit songwriter would have been aware of their song. I believe you've already covered the suit over Radiohead's Creep and the Hollies' The Air That I Breathe (written by Albert Hammond who sang It Never Rains in Southern California). A legal precedent was recently established that made it clear that a chord progression cannot be the subject of a lawsuit in the case of a member of the 60s band Spirit vs Led Zeppelin over Stairway to Heaven.
You asked for more examples of songs that sound similar. Here's one (and I commented this before on another older video you've uploaded): "Always Thinking of You" by Donna De Lory (from the "Three Men and a Little Lady" soundtrack) sounds almost identical to "Forever Your Girl" by Paula Abdul.
@14:12 The Beatles’ Come Together from their last album, Abbey Road borrows some lyrics and similar rhythm to Chuck Berry’s You Can’t Catch Me. The tempo is slowed way down and the lyric that really sticks out is the “here come a flat-top, she come cruisin up slowly…” line.
Years ago someone sampled one of my songs without permission. My label said let’s wait and see if their song blows up on the charts and then we’ll take action. It never did so we did nothing.
@jonnawyatt
Жыл бұрын
Well at least you admit profiting of someone else's work.😊
@DiscoCitizens240
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnawyatt lol read my post again
@AutPen38
Жыл бұрын
"Where there's a hit, there's a writ." If there's no money to be made, it's pointless giving money to those poor, penniless lawyers that make the record industry what it is.
The first few lines of "Nothing Lasts Forever" by Maroon 5 sound exactly like those of "At Seventeen" by Janis Ian. The former is quite a bit faster paced, so each line's melody is played twice compared to just once in the latter. But the similarity is incredible. The chorus is Billy Joel's "This Night" is actually taken directly from the second movement of Ludwig van Beethoven's "Pathétique Sonata". But apparently Beethoven is actually credited as one of the song's writers on the sleeve of the album.
to add to the thing about the Avril Lavigne song, I Wanna Be Your Girlfriend by Lush is a cover of the song by the Rubinoos, which might have also been an inspiration behind Avril’s song. it’s interesting how deep the rabbit hole of that type of song goes
I'm half way between 'There are only so many notes and rhythms' and 'They are all just seeing what they can get away with'.
There are 12 notes, 7 fit together, 5 sound very good together. So it is no wonder, that short parts of songs sound sometimes similar.
@mandanglelow1442
Жыл бұрын
Although you're correct about the major scale in the pentatonic scale I would say that as a songwriter it's not that difficult to pull a Melody away from another one. A Melody that similar can also be some in a rhythmic manner that's different than the original to also make it sound different. If it's an accident it's an accident but some of these Melodies I believe were lifted intentionally.
@mandanglelow1442
Жыл бұрын
@@edsimnett Its not that simple. Sarcasm...😆🤣😆
@mandanglelow1442
Жыл бұрын
@@edsimnett Mathematics aside, rhythm is the trick to originality in music. All styles of music are distinguished by notes played to and against a particular RHYTHM.
@peterg5383
Жыл бұрын
tell it to allan holdsworth, monkey boy
@fallenshallrise
Жыл бұрын
Yup, 11 notes really, 5 chords that sound good in sequence plus passing chords. Then you have singers who 99% of the time sing the root and the third. In pop music it's just who got there first. And in a lot of these lawsuits the melodies don't even exactly match.
Robin Trower was very open about his being inspired and borrowing from the band WAR's song "Four Cornered Room" to compose his hit "Bridge Of Sighs".
The Beach Boys' "Surfin' USA" borrowed the music and melody from Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen". It was so similar (and deliberate) that the Beach Boys' manager, Murray Wilson, gave the publishing rights to Chuck Berry's publisher before the song was even released. The original writing credit went to Brian Wilson, but was changed to Chuck Berry a few years later. Eventually, it went to Chuck Berry-Brian Wilson.
How weird that this just came out, because a couple of days ago my wife was listening to an old NKOTB album and several of the songs had small sections that reminded me of other songs. Two of the songs that I thought were similar are in this video- Bittersweet Symphony and Viva La Vida. The Coldplay and NKOTB albums were released within months of each other
I really thought the example from "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" would be The Black Keys similar melody at the start of "Tighten Up"
Man, that piano outro was Marvelous...beautiful notes, an otherworldly feel...😎
Once you scat the horn parts from Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4" over Green Day's "Brain Stew", you'll never not implicitly hear them. "I'm having trouble trying to think" "Ba da da da daaaaaaa bah!"
The Offspring's "why don't you go get a job" borrows heavily from the Beatles "ob la di ob la da"
Every time I hear the similarity between the Coldplay and Satriani songs, my brain immediately goes to the chorus of "Hearts" by Marty Balin, which was a hit way back in 1981.
@waugsqueke
Жыл бұрын
Right? I was very surprised Hearts never came up during that whole business, it's the same melody just over a slightly different chord progression.
@mistabook
Жыл бұрын
I always hear "Hello" by Lionel Richie, from 1983. I think the video nailed it and it's just a natural melody to write over this chord progression.
@waugsqueke
Жыл бұрын
@@mistabook Hm. I don't really hear that melody in this.
Ed Sheeran also had a similar situation. His song *Thinking Out Loud* was said to infringe copyright from Marvin Gaye's song *Let's Get it On* about two months ago.
Brand New Heavy's "Dream On, Dreamer" lifts the melody from Prince's "I Wanna Be Your Lover."' I recognized that immediately when I heard the Brand New Heavy's joint.
Here’s a really interesting one: Beyoncé song “Halo” vs Kelly Clarkson song “Already Gone” Both were co-written by Ryan Tedder
@scpjack7856
Жыл бұрын
Songwriters reusing the same melodies/progressions for different songs is a really good video idea actually.
@shaobingboy
Жыл бұрын
He did a video like this already. Taylor Swift's chord progressions are mostly the exact same few
@andrewpappas9311
Жыл бұрын
You've told me about that before, still ironic that both songs were written by the same guy
@Willie_Wahzoo
Жыл бұрын
Ryan Tedder is a truly skilled musician.
@treetopvideo
Жыл бұрын
@@scpjack7856 john fogerty from credence clearwater revival was sued for plagiarizing himself!
Honestly, all these songs have more or less very simplistic melodies consisting of scalar passages or arpeggiated passages. Well, that is basically the bread and butter of every musical piece ever composed. So it really is expected that songs will sound like others. Consequently its always going to be the case that one composer will be suing another for plagiarism.
@fallenshallrise
Жыл бұрын
People like to cry "rip off" but it's right there on the screen. A 4 chord progression plus a linear melody that runs up and down the scale within the singers limited range. Or you get a chord progression with a root, 3rd and 5th arpeggio. It's like suing because someone made a house with a door and a window on the front.
Bad Finger 'Day After Day' and Joe Jackson 'Breaking Us In Two' always reminded me one to one another...
The Beatles got called for Come Together being too similar to Chuck Berry's You Can't Catch Me. This started an on-going soap opera of all sorts of shady deals, ripoffs, bootleg albums and crooked characters. It's quite a fascinating story.
The chorus in Crocodile Rock is the verse in Monster Mash. I was in a cover band that blended the two songs.
@AutPen38
Жыл бұрын
It should have quoted "See you later, alligator" for additional nostalgia.
I have never understood why the music industry does not police itself. Why are greedy record companies and tricky lawyers allowed to fool an unknowing jury, with no education in music history, into making a verdict about todays pop music.
I really enjoyed this clip , when one sees this kind of thing on one's feed it's like OK here we go again, it is so good when some one actually cares and puts work into something that is important to those that care about such things.
George Harrison's Something borrowed the first line from James Taylor's"Something in the way she moves". George probably heard it being worked on when James Taylor worked in the same studio as The Beatles.
One of the lesser-known rips offs is Rod Stewart - The Killing Of Georgie. There is a bridge where we hear the line, "Oh Goergie Stay, Don't go away." It sounds exactly like Don't Let Me Down by The Beatles. John Lennon pointed it out in an interview.
@xoxb2
Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that one was very odd - it's so obvious, and the time between the two songs was only maybe 8 years or so.
@ChelseaPensioner-DJW
Жыл бұрын
Probably because Rod Stewart had already said that he had.
One example I can think of, Focus's album title track Focus III uses a "bridge" section from "Don't Sleep in the Subway" composed by Tony Hatch and Jackie Trent. As far as I know it never resulted in a court case, the genres of music being so different.
@benthompson9349
Жыл бұрын
Oh good lord... how have I never noticed this?! 😮
David, would you tackle Kansas's "Carry On, Wayward Son" and Journey's "I'm Gonna Leave You" please? Check the release dates of the respective albums and the fact that Journey opened for Kansas in 1975 when Kansas was touring for their third album and Journey their first.
Another great vid. Thanks David. Always an eye-opener.
@DavidBennettPiano
11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
There's a funny story in Keith Richards' autobiography about the Stones song "Anybody Seen My Baby" from their Bridges to Babylon album. According to Richards: "My daughter Angela and a friend were at Redlands and I was playing the record and they start singing this totally different song over it. They were listening to k.d. lang's 'Constant Craving.' It was Angela and her friend that recognized it." Keith goes on to say that it was Mick who came up with the melody, and he unknowingly copied lang's melody. The Stones acknowledged Lang and her co-writer Mink as co-writers. Lang said she was "completely honored and flattered" by receiving the songwriting credit. From Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anybody_Seen_My_Baby%3F
@whiskeywolfgang
Жыл бұрын
As far as I know it's the only case of the stones "ripping off" another melody
@danriess3858
Жыл бұрын
@@whiskeywolfgang I hope you're not being serious. The Rolling Stones are infamous for ripping off other musicians. For example, the melody of "The Last Time" was lifted directly from "This May Be the Last Time," by the Staples Singers. They also stole two Robert Johnson songs, "Love in Vain” and “Stop Breakin’ Down."
@paulolezigoto3262
Жыл бұрын
@@danriess3858 As for the obert Johnson songs, they are covers, as are many of the songs from their early days. Johnson is credited and there is no attempt to disguise the similarity.
@davearagon7571
8 ай бұрын
That shows class. There's an even wilder case I recently learned of, about a songwriter who hadn't expected the credit. Judy Collins was the first to put "Me And My Uncle" on a record. She credited John Phillips of the Mamas and Papas as writer but, when he got the royalty, he phoned her up to say he didn't even know the song and doubted it was his! What Ms. Collins picked up & used wasn't a phrase or passage or chord progression or even melody, but the whole entire song. She told him um dude we were in the same room when you sort of ad-libbed it, and luckily someone had a tape deck. There was tequila.
Can't post links, but look these two up: 1. Blinker the Star -- Below the Sliding Doors 2. The Helicopter Of The Holy Ghost - Tony Got A Car (from Afters) Listen all the way through, to each, and tell me if you think #2 is an homage or a rip off of #1.
Mexican 80’s band Timbiriche sampled Mike & the Mecanic’s “All I need is a Miracle” in their song “Si no es Ahora”. Also, Thalia’s “Love” samples Rozalla’s “Everybody’s Free (To Feel Good)” I wonder if anything happened to those two.
It's interesting to hear about intellectual property issues in the music industry. It's also a significant concern in some other industries, and the different perspectives are valuable.
A couple of my favorite examples of this: "My Sweet Lord" by George Harrison, which David covered before. The Chiffons actually released their own version of "My Sweet Lord" afterwards, which I think stands up as a great song on its own. "Deja Vu" which sampled the bass line from Steely Dan's "Black Cow" and ended up having the writing credits for "Deja Vu" assigned for Becker and Fagen of Steely Dan.
@BobGeogeo
Жыл бұрын
The earlier video with My Sweet Lord and He's so Fine: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pmh9ts1pqdWvg8Y.html
@BeatlesTranscriber
Жыл бұрын
Wrong !!! George always said he was sued for the wrong song. He stated the song he had in mined was Oh Happy Days.
@BeatlesTranscriber
Жыл бұрын
@@BobGeogeo wrong see my post below. George said it was Oh Happy Days and was sued for the wrong song
@ociemitchell
Жыл бұрын
@@pandaman1968 agreed. In the Chiffons version of "my sweet lord", they use both sets of lyrics to really show that they are the same song.
@BeeWhistler
Жыл бұрын
@@BeatlesTranscriber Your entire focus seems more on bring right than setting the record straight. You could throw in your information without being a jerk about it.
the stupidest one is Down Under vs. Kookaburra. Kookaburra was written for an Australian Girl Scout organization. A big company bought the rights and proceeded to sue Men At Work over the flute riff in the song
@JediKnightmare
11 ай бұрын
I mean, they did take the melody 🤷🏾♂️
@jsbrules
8 ай бұрын
@@JediKnightmare No, the flute player PLAYED ONE BAR quoting the super-familiar beginning single line of the kookaburra melody. AND ONLY in his little flute solo/break, not in the song's verse or chorus. It was an amusing "patriotic" quote. Most people including the flutist thought Kookaburra was a folk song, of course. But neither the melody of Down Under nor the whole rest of the song ever bore the slightest resemblance to Kookaburra
With all the songs he wrote over so many years, it's amazing that McCartney is never is accused of plagerism. Unbelievable melodic talent.
@andymerrett
5 ай бұрын
or maybe people just assume they'll lose.
@kaylad4486
5 ай бұрын
They literally stole from Black artists.
@2beJT
5 ай бұрын
which songs did they steal?@@kaylad4486
Most people know of this, Huey Lewis and News Sued Ray Parker Jr for Ghostbusters, it said it copied New Drug.
I can't believe Savage Garden ("I want you" ) did not get sued by the composers of "Life is a Rock (but the radio rolled me)" by Reunion. They are even in the same key.
@IndigoJo
Жыл бұрын
Well, there are only so many keys.
@hbofbyu1
Жыл бұрын
@@IndigoJo 🤔True. But changing the key could help hide things a little better - for those perfect pitch people it's a totally different color.
@bradarmstrong3952
Жыл бұрын
I could see where you’d think that a lawsuit would succeed here, since they do have a similar “feel” in the fast talking part, and are reminiscent in pitch and overall structure. I’d argue that they are such different styles and themes that it really isn’t an infringement; maybe more of an inspiration.
Unless you are Bach, every songwriter derives a new song from a previous song. Although I'm sure Bach had his inspiration as well. If you trace the evolution of music it must go back to the songbirds, the beating of our hearts and the cadence of the waves as the original authors of music.
@MXB2001
Жыл бұрын
Oh I'm a massive Bach fan but I did read that he may have gotten a lot from Vivaldi (whom I also worship).
@JS-wi9mw
Жыл бұрын
indeed there are some truly massive original artists out there like bach (stevie wonder, nina simone, ellington, etc...) but we are all influenced by the matter around us. i think the universe offers up little nuggets here and there...those that are tuned a little more attentively can tap into that without interference, others get a little interference here and there (by interference i mean to suggest songs floating around in the ether at the time of your creation). for me this more easily explains why we cannot go from Bach to Ellington, we need those hundreds of years in between to slowly add on to the larger canon of music...one small drop at a time. some wholly original drops, some slight dervitive, some wholly derivitive.
@michaelpdawson
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Bach is not a good example! A lot of his music is either arrangements of works by other composers (such as the organ concertos based on Vivaldi and Johann Ernst), or works based on Lutheran hymn tunes (although the parts we remember are Bach's additions, not the underlying hymn), or things he wrote down somewhere that were mistakenly attributed to him (such as the famous Minuet in G, the "Lover's Concerto" tune).
@Atlas65
Жыл бұрын
@@MXB2001 I think that it was the opposite actually. That is how I remember it. Because Vivaldi was such a fan of Bach. He got alot of inspiration from Bach ... I think I saw it in a documentary about the 4 Seasons. i think that you can find it here on youtube.
@AutPen38
Жыл бұрын
The monks that did Gregorian chants should sue Sting (and Enigma and anyone that uses a lot of major chords, for that matter).
SWV's song "Rain" was sampled from Jaco Pastorius " Portrait of Tracy"
There is a similarity between Glen Campbell's "Rhinestone Cowboy" and "Sloop John B" by the Beach Boys. It occurs on the lines "I know every crack in these dirty sidewalks of Broadway" and "around Nassau town we did roam", respectively.
@rabitnose
11 ай бұрын
Glen was a "touring member" of the Beach Boys during the mid-60s. So, but he did not write "Rhinestone Cowboy".
@briseboy
9 ай бұрын
Sloop John B is WAY older than bleach boys.
Madonna's "Beautiful Stranger" is quite similar to "She Comes In Colors " by Love, from many years earlier.
12:44 "The Songs I Didn't Write" haha, how ironic
@DavidBennettPiano
Жыл бұрын
😂😂
I wrote a simple horn introduction for a song my band was performing. The first time we were due lto play it I heard another band on the same gig play it in one of their songs. There was no way I would have heard this before but there you are. I decided to drop our intro as I didn’t want to be accused of nicking it.
The baseline that starts the song "Sunday Morning" by No Doubt closely resembles the guitar outro from the song "Bad to Me" by Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas. "Bad to Me" was actually written by Lennon and McCartney.
Surely at some point we simply run out of melodies that are pleasing to the ear and there music dies or nobody makes any money any more. It is completely plausible to write an exact melody that someone has written before without ever knowing or hearing that song.
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Music is evolving closer and closer to its final form: a I V vi IV over a 909 kick drum.
Gerry Rafferty's 1978 hit "Baker Street" has an unforgettable sax line similar to Steve Marcus's obscure 1968 song "Half a Heart."
There’s another one that borrowed from another song called “Saint Paul” by Terry Knight in 1969, but it borrowed other Beatles’ songs like “Hey Jude”, “All You Need Is Love”, “Hello Goodbye”, “Strawberry Fields Forever”, “Lovely Rita”, “A Day In The Life” and “She Love You” without permission from Lennon & McCartney. That was around that time the whole “Paul Is Dead” rumor took place.
Thank you so much for telling the WHOLE STORY about the Rolling Stones vs The Verve. Because I only knew that one fact but none of the details. Thank you again for such an informative video! ❤