Someone probably said something but a designer was like “I CANT DEAL WITH THAT NOW”

@anthonybernero9720

2 ай бұрын

Brilliant

@Sayerservante

2 ай бұрын

@Alpha-Trion7

Ай бұрын

face it magnus, the decepticons are gonna dog us till they see us dead

@fountainspencartoons

Ай бұрын

You win the internet with that reply. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got better things to do tonight than die…

I think that they decided to prioritize scale in the vehicle mode because there's much better reference material between the actual vehicles, and his vehicle mode scales really well with the rest of the line. I think Ultra Magnus's robot mode is just too small in the show to make a figure that scales properly in both modes, I mean he's Optimus's truck cab with a giant trailer attached, it only makes sense that he's twice the height of Optimus

@happybuttersblast8334

4 күн бұрын

lucky for us they have SS86 optimus , megatron, and galvatron coming out that are taller/larger. This and when they do SS86 Rodimus Prime, the Ultra Magnus Scale will look better .

They needed someone for commander class that year

@lyokomajor

2 ай бұрын

AOE Scorn.

@OogaBooga24723

Ай бұрын

@@lyokomajorwhy would the other AOE dinobots be commanders if grimlock wasn’t?

@lyokomajor

Ай бұрын

@@OogaBooga24723 Just Scorn since he was the largest.

I did not get rid of the Earthrise Ultra Magnus, that's how i fix the issue of this figure being too big for displaying it in robot mode with the others!

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

Genius! lol

@Gametester110-qf8vs

2 ай бұрын

​@@retroandreissueI was plenty happy with Kingdom and SG Magnus. So I didn't bother with studio 86.

To be fair, Transformers scaling tends to be all over the place. Remember the episode where Huffer was suddenly small enough to fit in Hoist's cab?

It is a little big, but there was at least one scene near the end of the movie in which you could argue that UM was just as big if not bigger than the dinobots.

@goldenltd1970

2 ай бұрын

Last scene on fight or flee he stands bigger than the rest too

@user-jc6bj2su8w

Ай бұрын

I agree he's big but he should be he is Ultra Magnus .What is weird is that he died from one shot in the movie!

"I thought hasbro cared" Bro that's where you got it wrong lol

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

Noooo! lol

@trence5

2 ай бұрын

🤣

@OogaBooga24723

Ай бұрын

The designers care, Hasbro just produces what will make them the most money

Maybe he doesn't scale in cartoon, but technically he scales just right, just as the last picture you showed in this video. Sure Prime and Magnus are about the same size, but if Prime were to transform with his trailer like Magnus, Prime would be as big as Magnus "technically".

Repeating things others have already said at this point but it was to prioritize the alt mode. Yes, mass-shifting is always a thing (Astrotrain can hold Devastator inside him in shuttle mode but during the coronation he's about as tall as Starscream, Galvatron flies in on Cyclonus, etc.) so generally the robot mode is prioritized for scale, but Ultra Magnus is a unique case where his alt mode is specifically designed to interact with other Transformers; he's a car carrier so he SHOULD be able to carry cars. Making an Astrotrain that can carry Devastator just isn't happening and Cyclonus functions perfectly fine as a jet without being able to fit Galvatron in the cockpit, but Magnus having a trailer too small to hold any cars effectively makes his alt mode useless. Besides, I feel like the scale isn't THAT off - Magnus is supposed to be a little shorter than the Dinobots but the SS86 toy is a little taller, not that egregious, and honestly considering how big his car carrier mode is, it's impressive the designers were able to compact him down as much as they did.

@ShinAdamSmasher

Ай бұрын

I agree completely. He is too big, but he's not so much bigger than everyone else that he doesn't look right in most shots. If he's next to Grimlock, he looks too big. If he's in a group with Grimlock, you don't really notice.

I'm inclined to think Magnus's scale is a bit off, but not way off. Magnus is a "big boy" and animation-conveniences aside, Magnus has always towered over most other Autobots.

@avenuePad

Күн бұрын

Agreed. I don't find 86 UM egregiously large. As you said, UM is meant to be a big bot. In UM's first scene/introduction Perceptor and Springer sometimes barely reach UM's shoulders. Maybe he's a little too big, but it's not by much. Certainly forgivable and not a deal breaker, for me, anyway. I think the modelers were trying to get the truck scale correct, so they had to make compromises. I think it was probably the right choice. A small can would have looked silly. I'll take the slightly larger UM over a tiny cab.

To be utterly honest, even if it isn't accurate it just feels right? It feels right to me for him to be as big as he is.

@isuckatusernames4297

Ай бұрын

especially considering that he's an entire truck AND the trailer, so he should at least be bigger than optimus prime.

I'm a scale addict (as everyone should be). It was the reason why I didn't bought it. I cant stand he not being on scale with Cyclonus, Galvatron and Grimlock. Kingdom Ultra Magnus is perfection in that regard.

@Jason49110

Ай бұрын

I personally think his scale is perfectly fine. I don't mind scale to an extent. Like Megatron should be taller than Optimus, Bee should be shorter, etc. I know that Ultra Magnus is supposed to be this big, bulky bot, and not someone like Hot Rod or Springer. I know Magnus should be taller than Optimus and the 86 figure succeeds at that. In fact, not counting Combiners and Titans, Magnus should be the tallest Autobot I think. But this is all just my opinion, you're free to have your own if you wish

Some have mentioned the car carrying aspect. I think another element to consider is that the cab of the alt mode has been scaled to be near the exact size as the upcoming 86 Commander Optimus' cab which, on his own, needs to stand somewhere between Voyager/Leader (maybe Kingdom Rodimus' height)

Oh, but while his vehicle mode is to scale, allowing you to recreate a scene from the 86 film that was cut, his robot mode is too... in C Minor....

For years TF fans have complained whenever a Magnus came out who was unable to carry deluxe cars in vehicle mode. There was no way to do scale in both robot and vehicle mode, but they opted to please the critics rather than be consistent. Same thing determined the size of the HasLab Omega Prime.

What I want to know is why he was so damned hard to find upon release - I never saw him on any normal retail shelves and only once in a collectors store.

@BlitzkriegOmega

2 ай бұрын

Considering that None of my retailers Have ever sold a single commander class ever, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I have yet to see a single figure from Legacy united. All four of them are still selling figures from 2021, I just wanna see new stock.

@saimaidar9417

2 ай бұрын

@@BlitzkriegOmega Sadly both Target and Wal-Mart use replenishment ordering and with the exception of the Christmas season they will not order new products if they have product on the shelves. Your best option is adly either travel or buy out the stores tock, you can donate unwanted toys to christmas toys drives or try selling them online.

@Paul_1971

2 ай бұрын

@@BlitzkriegOmega Blimey - where do you live, Antartica? LOL. To be fair its only the collectors stores in the UK that seem to get Studio Series or Legacy these days - most retail stores do all the younger aimed stuff or Rise of the Beasts. Some do get stock come in for the on sale shelf that other people can't shift like Amazon exclusive Bulkhead, Legacy Crosscut & The Magma Megatron Dragon thing - stuff I & probably a lot of discerning collectors don't want.

@rodimussupreme2329

2 ай бұрын

@@Paul_1971It’s that way all over America. Original Legacy product is STILL clogging shelves.

@dkkanofkash8798

2 ай бұрын

My local stores never stock up on any Commander Class and Titan Class figures, if it's anything bigger than a Leader or slightly exlusive, my only chances of getting it are online. So I got Magnus on Amazon

1:22 you mistransformed blurr his chest panel rotates

I think it’s because of the engineering looking back a siege/kingdom ultra magus they utilized the inner robot concept and basically started with a voyager with added parts to bump him up to a leader size here they essentially wanted to keep the trailer and truck cab together bypassing the need for parts forming. I think it was easier for them to get that concept through a large size kinda how they explained how Frankenstein’s monster was so tall in Mel Brooks Young Frankenstein movie essentially to make easier to bring the monster to life and accommodate the complexity of to make it of a larger stature(the musical better explains it) so to achieve the complexity of bypassing the whole inner robot concept they made him bigger to accommodate his transformation

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

Interesting take. I hadn't thought of that! Thanks for chipping in - I need to understand!

This is why I bought the kingdom version. He is more in scale for my collection and close enough to G1 to my definitive UM. Sure his vehicle mode kinda sucks but if you plug the arm gauntlets in his hands and not the arms it covers them up in vehicle form.

I can’t help but admire your lunacy.

As others have said. It is either make him perfectly in scale for robot mode, or make him perfectly in scale for vehicle mode, but you can't have both. One group is going to be disappointed. In this case that made the right call to make his car mode in scale. It would be odd to see him in his car carrier mode, but he can't fit the other vehicles since he is too small. Not to mention at a lower price point, he might not be nearly as complex.

honesty, They should have made the dinobots bigger

I’m glad you addressed something about Transformer scales. For me, I’ve tried to create my own scale of Transformers between one another so for all the Unicron Trilogy leaders being super big, I can also justify mixing in my 1/24 Alternators with the army.

Omg finally someone else sees this!!! I've been saying this all along and people say oh he's the right scale. Apparently they haven't watched g1 transformers in a long time. Personally I think they made him way too big to sell him at command class to make more money off of him. I'll never buy him for that reason. I have earthrise magnus and even though he has his own issues at least he's the correct scale for the current transformers toylines

He's actually not to big but he is to wide ! He's a full truck converted into his robot mode while prime is just the cab . So it definitely makes sense if you think about it .

Now that Optimus is going to be larger, and they are making a larger Megatron and galvatron. Ultra Magnus will be some big for scale but it wont be as bad . Im sure they are working on a SS86 rodimus too.

Wow, I had no idea. That is way too big. Thank you for posting this. You literally saved me from a huge disappointment. Thank you so much my friend.

How would you want him to be? A full size truck and larger robot or a small truck and more the size of Hotrod? I always saw him as a larger robot compared to most of them on the show.

Behold! Giant Magnus!

Did anyone really believe he'd be Voyager size? He was always going to be bigger, always.

I think the absolute miracle that they were able to get him to fully transform from a correctly scaled car carrier into a robot mode deserves some forgiveness for his bot size. The Siege is probably closer to the right size, but it is just junk comparatively.

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, if it weren't for the scale I would say this Magnus is pretty much perfect. A slightly bigger matrix would've been nice too!

Actually, this makes me think of when Magnus first showed up in the original comic run ('Target: 2006' from the UK run), where he was a powerhouse and really was pretty big compared to many others - although, as was fairly common in the comics, his scale varied wildly throughout his appearances. At one point in that run, I seem to remember Hound barely coming to above his knee!

It's ither this or parts forming, I'd rather not deal with that right now.

The reason he's too big is because Ultra Msgnus hss to do double the work of any Transformers figure because people demand he be able to carry cars on his trailer in truck mode. Pretty much that simple. As Ultra Magnus is my favorite character so I definitely feel your pain. While ,many fans revile the Kingdom figure, in robot mode it's the correct size. In my soon to be stop motion series, I'm going to 'make' him be in scale in story.

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

I much prefer the Kingdom figure scale too.

Is because he has a trailer, he's fitted to be commander class

I remember getting Ultra Magnus for Christmas from my Grandma. And the before putting on his trailer armor he is a blank white Optimus Prime.

This is the exact reason why I didn't get it, and probably will never get one unless it's for sale at like $15 or less. He should not be taller than any of the Dinobots

One thing that is a probability? They make way too many of them reference one singular scene from a movie or episode, just so you can recreate it with the toys. I just want one that's fun personally and doesn't break me fingers everytime I touch it, which is probably why I feel the comfiest with the Unicron Trilogy stuff.

Of all of the things to critique about Transformers toys this is surely the bottom of the list. Magnus needed to be big as the vehicle mode is to scale with the other vehicles and it was chosen to be released at Commander class, again because of the vehicle size. The previous Commander class release was Motormaster and Magnus has to be bigger than him, which seems to be the size you want Magnus to be. Magnus also needs to be bigger than Optimus's vehicle mode as he can carry 4-5 deluxe class vehicles rather than just Roller and Bumblebee.

Is the shattered glass version the same mold?

@anthonybernero9720

2 ай бұрын

@AntiDecepticonCampain No. The recent Shattered Glass Magnus is the Earthrise Magnus.

looks like the Hasbro/Takara sacrificed the sacle in order to give us a cartoon accurate UM (No Inner Robot) but I completely agree with you, It's awesome so make up your mind and let go the scale refernce of the past and accept it as it is, that's what I did, BTW so nice to see you haven't stop buying figures

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

I have been displaying him in Carrier mode so I'm working around it - I just needed to vent and wondered what other people thought! Still collecting for sure - this is like a real nice return to the excitement of childhood when a new figure is annouced (can't wait for Straxus - that's like a dream come true for me).

I believe Studio Series were said to be scaled by vehicle form as there’s more uniform scales for cars and as there’s so much mass shifting for Transformers that if they went purely by Robot mode scale then the resulting vehicle modes would be all over the place in terms of scale, so a more uniform scale is more desirable

I love giant Ultra Magnus. Good for him.

I’ve been buying a mix of SS 86 and WFC siege figures for my collection and this makes me glad I went with the siege Magnus

Only fix for the scaling issues is to collect non-transforming Transformers figures. Not a lot of selection in that area yet.

In the scene from the movie with Magnus and Springer that you showed, it's called a perspective shot. That's why the inside of the shuttle clearly slopes downwards near Magnus' head, so that example isn't a good one.

The issue lies with the animators' choice to negate the real scale based on the Diaclone toys, which all scaled fairly well together. Had they animated all the bot modes to correspond with how they scale practically, this conversation would be unnecessary. Of course, the choice to integrate Micro-change toys into the line created a much greater scale issue which we've come to call mass-shifting. Had they chosen instead to keep everything to its real scale (Imagine Megs and Soundwave as tiny bots throughout the toon- hard to do now thanks to the Sunbow animation and every bit of media since), but it would have been a far different experience had they gone that route. Regarding SS86 Magnus, I think he's nigh perfect, one of the best toy incarnations of the character thus far. Since his truck mode is scaled to match Earthrise Prime, whose truck mode is a bit undersized compared to the carbots in order to make his bot mode scale better, I think he's scaled appropriately in order to give us a functional car carrier mode like the original toy. Since scale is all over the place in Transformers (let's consider Skyfire for a moment, whose already big bot mode benefits from a ridiculous amount of mass-shifting to become a ship into which the bots, including Prime, can all fit comfortably). End of the day, I don't blame the toys, I blame the animation for the disparity in sizes. It all could have been much different if the choice had been made from the start to keep everything in scale relative to the toys, but that's not what happened and now we have that conundrum of what scale is proper.

This is one of those problems where you have to sacrifice one scaling for another's Because mass shifting can't happen IRL. You either end up with a vehicle mode that's too small or a robot that's too big. Personally, I would prefer the vehicle modes to scale better than the robot modes, unless it is Character that is supposed to be gigantic, like Astrotrain or the Titans.

If I may (and please forgive me if I deviate off course), it is most certainly important! I am going out of my mind over this. I love the look but the Kingdom Magnus is my Pinnacle.. I don't collect non Hasbro, and a true purist. I was 4 when I saw him on screen! I love the post season 2 characters! I'm going through another heartbreak, and these guys have always been there for me. I bought a house, and I had a "Transformers room"! Ceiling to floor, wall to wall! Magnus was always there in every scene from Pre-Hasbro to (at the time) Generations. Now I started collecting again the past three years, and I only have from certain pre-Siege to current releases.. this character just threw me for a loop! I'm feeling the same way!! I just saw the Springer for Studio Series, and I'm upset with that one too! I feel a little betrayed and I don't think I'll be getting this release. It's sad, really.

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

I sympathise. I got him and have been displaying him in transporter mode but it's not my first choice for the set-up. I'm just hoping they hear the feedback and try to get back on track. Springer doesn't seem too out of scale to me but I've yet to see him next to anybody really.

@SurprisedCoyote-mj8px

2 ай бұрын

@@retroandreissue considering he's the same mold, I imagine he'll be really keen next to the rest. But aside from me going to store to store to find a "case fresh" for a packaged version, it'll be tough. I wish they didn't have the window. Every kid, and passer-by twists them all over the place.. it's upsetting. And I wonder if Hasbro really hears us! Do you have Hot-Rod, and Earthrise figures stored in vehicle mode? It's the only way I could imagine it.. you really said it with him being bigger than Grimlock!

Haven't got him yet. Didn't realize there was such a big size difference. A major problem though is, like you said, that the characters also shift in size in the cartoon, so there's that problem and that can't easily be fixed...if at all. He's...commander class now? But really should be leader class, on par with Galvatron. That would have been more reasonable size. Then again, they hade to make him big enough to actually carry other cars/robots on his trailer, but I think they could have done it anyway even if they hade shortened him a bit. I think the main reason they made him so big was that the engineering was fairly advanced and even though they have made smaller leader class these days and justified the cost with either accessories or advanced engineering, they probably felt it was too difficult to adjust the commander class price unless they also made him quite big. But I agree, he's too big now and even though I really like him, I might buy a third party Magnus instead to fit him better with the other robot sizes. He's just not that big. Then again, IDW showed Fortress Maximus to be something like leader class and there's no way the absolutely giant Fortress Maximus was that size, so...other problems. Guess they will never be able to handle it properly.

i love scale accuracy but with g1 being so inconsistent i don’t rlly mind and i’ve always wanted my magnus to tower over everyone since a kid

Curious seeing how things are on the other side of the fence. As someone who's a sucker for vehicle mode scale instead, I always thought he was too SMALL! If money was no object, the Masterpiece Magnus and Optimus (even if they'd be downright colossal in bot mode) would fit right at home with the size of most car bots in the WFC and Legacy lineups. With designers like Shogo Hasui working on both early MP's and recent CHUG figures all with the same design style that meshes the cartoon aesthetic with realistic details, I'd even bet this was intentional!

He scales perfectly with the ss86 Junkions, the others not so much

I didnt grow up with g1, so Magnus being this giant in power armor fits for me.

Why is Magnus the size of Fortress Maximus?

As I tell people on transformers sites all dam time transformers toys where NEVER EVER be in scale with each other NEVER look at g1 magnus toy he’s same size metroplex fuck sake

Honestly I think he got made like that because of his truck mode. Transformers normally interact with each other especially in the stories. And Ulta Magus is a car carrier. Anyone who buys him will put other Autobots on Ultra Magus. I would.

I am currently watching the G1 series now and and I currently watching the 3rd series and I can honestly say that it does not bother me nearly as much as the show has not been very consistent with size especially the 3rd series where in one episode one transformer was able to pilot the vehicle mode of another transformer that was the same size as him. And I have also noticed Grimlock's size has been all over the place

You are not alone. If the scale is off, I won't even consider buying it. Yes he is WAY too big! I'm waiting for Kindom to get super dirt cheap and I'm snatching one off ebay

All Ultra Magnus have the same problem. He's supposed to be slightly bigger than Springer. About a similar size to Galvatron. BUT he's also got an Optimus inside him, surrounded by armor, even though they are supposed to be the same size.

I mean, consider the fact that the OG toy was originally going to be an armor upgraded Optimus. then they decided against that. I honestly don't think you're going to get a smaller Ultra Magnus without seriously changing the scale of the alt mode but who knows what they were thinking with it.

There is a few reasons why: They wanted the cab section to be the same size as Earthrise Optimus prime’s cab, because that’s how it was for the og toy. They wanted to give him good car carrier functionality. They wanted him to feel worth the commander class price point, because with their last offerings, Rodimus specifically, people complained he was too small, and rightfully so I believe, as I think he should have at least been taller than Earthrise Optimus or the same height as Galvatron.

I love the size. Good his name perfectly

He should be that much bigger that the other characters because he is a whole ass semi truck and trailer.

If you got your hands on the Combiner Wars Leader Class Ultra Magnus, you would see they're same height. Which I really like.

i am happy he is a large lad. luckily the accuracy of scales dont bother me. feels good. i even got this beast twice!

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

Twice! One to open and one to keep boxed? Or one for robot, one for alt mode?

@bigconvoy9850

2 ай бұрын

@@retroandreissue nah. i just felt like it. and i swapped some parts around to make the nicest version. not sure what i will do with the other

Honestly if you wanted a smaller scale Ultra Magnus, you should of stuck with the Siege version. Yes he is HUGE but it was clear they wanted to do something different with him and to reused the Siege mold! Like for one thing, they decided to emphesis the truck mode can actually carry the deluxe cars which the previous Magus toys couldn't do properly since G1!

Hasbro/Takara prioritized the alt-mode scale in this case because being able to carry other Transformers was a play feature of the original toy. People expect that. If they made the opposite choice, people would still complain. I reckon that significantly more people would complain about the car carrier mode not being able to carry cars than people would complain about the robot mode being a bit too big, which IMO isn't super noticeable since Ultra Magnus is supposed to be big in his robot mode. (His name is "Ultra Magnus", after all.)

I feel like they made him that big to try and justify the commander class price as much as possible without making him super big. Although IMO, he should have been like Grimlock and just been a downscaled Leader Class version of his MP figure without any over complexity. This also would have allowed them to do something brand new with the Commander Class that year.

I get what you are saying, but i missed picking him up since i have earthrise and siege ultra magnus, so i kinda regret not picking up studio 86, since he looks so good, even though he is huge. i wonder what will prime and megatron 86 will be like.

i like it. UM is bigger than Optimus in some scenes, and it makes sense as hes just Optimus with an exo suit

I agree, and it's the main reason I held off buying it... Plus I had CW Magnus (The one with Minimus), Seige, and then Earthrise as well, so I've given more than enough money to Hasbro for Magnus :P

One day, Ultra Magnus drives to Autobot base. He transforms into robot mode. Ironhide notices something different. "You're looking kind of big today." Ultra Magnus looks down at Ironhide and realizes he's twice the size of him. "Aah crap. It looks like my size-shifting function is broken again. At least the Dinobots can't bully me for awhile." Does the white cab transform into a white likeness of Optimus Prime?

I never understood the upset over scale. Because once you bring Unicron in, it all seems a bit silly.

The RED series was a really missed opportunity. They didn't transform so there was no reason why the scale couldn't have been perfect. I'm sure the line would have been more successful if they'd focused on that.

@retroandreissue

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I picked up the first wave of Megs, Prime and Shockwave but when I saw Bumblebee I was out and ended up selling them.

HE ISN'T BIG ENOUGH!

Its one of the reason i passed on this. I have the kingdom G1 Ultra Magnus, which is a fine figure it has its flaws but i enjoy it and i like the scale. There wasnt enough in this SS86 to make me switch it . Kind of the same with the new springer figure.

Glad they bought back oversized leader class Transformers in terms of size. Takes me back to PotP Optimus Prime... That thing was huge and it was money well spent! These 2 fit well together!

Fans want Ultra Magnus. You are going to get him and you are going to pay 90+ so it's going to be plus sized. The toy looks great on display and with how much he goes for now,you better get more.

Well he wasn't a white optimus inside armor either but here we are

It's simple. They wanted the truck cab to the same size as Earthrise Optimus Prime. On top of that many people complained that previous Ultra Magnus offering, that were more in scale in Robot Mode, couldn't carry Deluxe vehicles. So the they decided to make that one's trailer big enough to do it so you can recreate a deleted scene where Ultra Magnus carries 3 autobots on his trailer. Those factors affected the size of the robot mode.

It’s because when he’s in robot mode the trailer becomes his armor which makes him bulky and slightly taller without the armor he should be Optimus Prime size

doesnt bug me as much as it use. ive always seen magnus as that big dude

I personally dont care too much about scale especially with as great of a figure as it is. it's the best commander we've ever seen IMO, he does so many good things and calling him "too big" is honestly hysterical to me because people always complain about, "oh the commanders are never big enough for $90, cuz Skyfire was big and he cost $80." Then when people get the commander in hand they are like BEST OF YEAR!!! Now me seeing this, it's truly pathetic that this is where the TF community is. I understand where you're coming from, but to bring down the BEST official Magnus we've ever seen is a crime and is such a sad nitpick that he doesn't match the model of G1. It wasn't even accurate to itself. I myself think that magnus is supposed to be this big, hulking character who turns into this big car carrier as a general leading his troops in while carrying them into battle. Honestly a genius video idea bc people are gonna make comments like this and only boost the algo, so props to you for that. Also ill give my respect to you for coming out with a ballsy opinion. I've done the same and gotten flamed but the algo loved it! Either way, keep making good content, and this is just the way i think of it

Completely agree. Most of the Transformers community seems to love the guy though. What'ya gonna do?

Originally Ultra Magnus was just a white Optimus robot with trailer armor around it. So, basically the designer of this toy was thinking it had to be huge! LOL! I honestly don't know.

I really wish I had Commander Class 86 Ultra Magnus.

Yup. Finally, someone else sees exactly wtf I see with Magnus!! And Takara made the exact same mistake years ago with MP22 Ultra Magnus. Optimus is supposed to come up to Magnus's shoulder. Earthrise Optimus Prime vs. SS86-21 Ultra Magnus?? He just barely comes up to his elbow, which is all kinds of wrong. It's a cool figure, let's make no bones about it. But as far as scaling? Unless the upcoming SS86-31 Optimus Prime is tall enough to get to where his height should be... I'll be sticking with Kingdom Ultra Magnus.

Would've been a better figure if he wasn't taller than the Dinobots.

LOL! I love the title of your video. And… THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

Is that the legacy united jazz?

I have the Kingdom Ultra Magnus in my Studio 86 film Transformer shelf. He scales better and looks the part. I own this figure as well and hes on a different shelf.

I feel like this scale was decided upon based on complaints of previous Ultra Magnus's not being able to function as a car carrier. Since Earthrise was already more or less in scale with Studio Series this release seems to lean more to his exaggerated scale

Well Because Of The Deleted Scenes From Transformers 86 Movie, We See Ultra Magnus Can Carry Couple Autobots in Vehicle Mode, and That's Why He is a Commander Class Because They Want Recreate That Deleted Scene We Saw.

@ronaldzamora8850

2 ай бұрын

Well Cyclonus was released as Voyager Class yet they didn't released him as commander class or way bigger to fit Galvatron inside his alt mode.

@firestarsantos7467

2 ай бұрын

​​@@ronaldzamora8850The big difference with Cyclonus( and astrotrain for that matter) is that he has a very clean alt mode that makes it so there inability to not be able to do this is unnoticiable......Ultra magnus full alt look is a trailer with AN EXPOSED CARRIER that is meant to carry other vehicles and a difference to cyclonous where you would never notice that inability if you don't put other transformers to complete the look Ultra Magnus alt mode just looks awful and incomplete, because one of it's main display( hell arguably the most important display for alt mode) literally cannot be displayed how it was supposed too. Hasbro had two choices screw the alt mode in it's entirety or take a small hit on the robots scale...they took the least hurtful one.

I agree. But for his engineering I can see why. This one's not a "Prime" in armor. It may have taken too much engineering to be both capable of hauling 4 deluxes why turning into a robot a little smaller than Grimlock or the same size as Galvatron.. I still want it (for the transformation and carrier alone) but if I just dead set on 'scale(🤣) I'd go after Earthrise one or just be happy with my Siege.

It's just the bi-product of having to have the trailer integrate into his transformation, unlike Prime. There's not much you can do really, unless you want to make him a partial partsformer instead. The G1 toy was way too big also. I'd say the current mainline scaling is the best it's ever been.

He's the size of leader class combiner wars magnus lol

Don't care, 86 Magnus is one of the best Transformers figures I've gotten in recent years. Great transformation despite its complexity, great articulation in robot mode despite the complexity of the transformation, great light piping, great alt mode that functions as a troop transport and outpost-like mobile base, and a great chonky robot mode that I don't care if it's scale accurate or not. 86 Magnus is everything I wanted it to be, and I'm very happy we got it.

Sometimes, Hasbro can't do right for doing wrong as far as the fans are concerned. If 86 Magnus had been smaller, they would have been criticised because his alt mode wasn't big enough to work as a car carrier, so they made him bigger, and now get criticism because the robot mode is too tall 🙄

I always thought Iron Hide and Ratchet were a little too small. They should be a short voyagers...about right where Optimus Primes shoulder are.