'81-'85 Yamaha Virago Flywheel Differences (Info If trying to find a Replacement)

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Had a question from a fellow owner on which Flywheels would swap for an '84 xv750 (Non-US Model) from the other !st Gen and '84 or "85 Viragos. Didn't know the answer but since I have at least one of each of the 1st Gen xv750, xv920, xv700 and the xv1000, I figured I'd have a look to see what the differences are. Turns out there are a couple that can swap, but most would need a little modification to them ( and Re-Balancing) to be able to be used. Actually wouldn't be too difficult so the Video also shows what machining would need to be done to make one work.

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  • @patroy3774
    @patroy3774Ай бұрын

    Thanks Steve this information is super important for those of us how are keeping them going. We can also change the ignition system completely to suite the flywheel 😊

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks man ! Yep, seems there are options if the flywheel is still swapped along with a matching ignition 👍. With fewer and fewer decent 1st Gen flywheels being available, I think we are gonna have to start getting more creative on restores for sure. Thanks again and all the best ! Steve

  • @GarysnewYT
    @GarysnewYT4 ай бұрын

    Good video Steve. I was curious about that flywheel too. Thank you.

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks man 👍. Yep, now at least I know what to modify if I ever needed to substitute one.

  • @havardsjblom3751
    @havardsjblom37514 ай бұрын

    Hi Steve, Just sent you an E-Mail regarding some carb question. Appreciate your videos!

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey ! Yep, got it 👍. I responded back by email. All the best ! Steve

  • @samizdat113
    @samizdat113Ай бұрын

    The 1988 - 1997 XV750 flywheel is still available for $80 - $100 new. Do you have a later example to compare to the 1st gen?

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    Ай бұрын

    Hey again, yep the 2nd Gen flywheels are a bit easier to come by, but unfortunately the triggers as well as the width of the gear make them incompatible with a 1st Gen unless the side cover, flywheel, triggers, and electronics are all changed out.

  • @kdsowen2882
    @kdsowen28824 ай бұрын

    Hi Steve , is there a way to separate the gear from the flywheel ? I was thinking in-terms of old cars where the ring-gear could actually be replaced on the flywheel by shrink-fit? from memory . If you 'parted' it on a lathe , could you then flip it around so that the undamaged-side was able to be used , with a bit of judicious tack-welding....maybe . I must admit I haven't looked at one in the-flesh , though I do have a complete parts-bike for my 82 XV1000 (TR1) I haven't needed to do any starter-work yet . Dave

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey man ! Unfortunately the way they made the flywheel assembly, the gear is part of the hub that mounts to the crank shaft so it would be really hard to cut it off and then put a new gear back on. The part with the magnets is riveted onto the gear so it could come off, but the rest is one piece so that would be a tough one to do I think. Yep, seems if the motor had been kept in tune pretty good over the years, the starter systems stay in decent shape. It’s just when they have to be cranked and cranked when they won’t start up immediately that eats away at the gears and finally ruins them.

  • @samizdat113
    @samizdat113Ай бұрын

    Looking at direction of rotation, does the difference in plate length determine how much before TDC ignition begins and then they all end at the same point of rotation?

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    Ай бұрын

    Hey ! I didn’t disassembly the motors to check where the trigger is as the piston comes up to TDC, but I guessing that it relates to the con rod length and how fast it comes up to TDC (a longer rod would have the piston come up to TDC slower than a shorter one. The other thing might be how fast the trigger reacts based on the electronics used for the different models.

  • @Fireballspc
    @Fireballspc4 ай бұрын

    Dear Steve's... I'm subscribed to the channel and I like your videos. I live in Brazil and bought a 1996 XV 750 and am getting to know the engine/gearbox and transmission parts. But I have a big question regarding its ignition system. How does it trigger the ignition for cylinders 1 and 2, 75 degrees out of phase with just one pulse coil (Pickup coil)? Could you explain to me the logic of this system? Thanks

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    4 ай бұрын

    Hello and thanks for Subscribing ! I’m actually not sure how the single pickup triggers both cylinders at the correct time for the 2nd Gen Viragos. I think the igniter is much different to the 1st Gen ones and the plats on the flywheel are much longer on the 2nd Gens (as well as there bring two plates). Maybe someone that watches the video and reads the comments can explain how it works as it’s much easier to understand the ones like in the video that have a single plate, but dual pickups. Sorry I couldn’t help any, but if you find out, let me know as well 👍. All the best ! Steve

  • @havardsjblom3751

    @havardsjblom3751

    4 ай бұрын

    Hi Steve, just sent you an E-mail regarding some carb questions. Appreciate your videos!

  • @samizdat113
    @samizdat113Ай бұрын

    I wonder what would happen if a 1000 or 1100 flywheel was installed in a 1st gen 750. How do you think that would affect things?

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    Ай бұрын

    The 1000 flywheel should fit the 1st Gens, but if the trigger plate length is different, it would trigger the spark differently and would either tend to kick back or fire to late and not have as much power.

  • @_MotoMikey_
    @_MotoMikey_25 күн бұрын

    Hi. Another grear video. Im wondering if it will make a huge differrnce to put on the "wrong" flywheel? Since the plates start at thr key point- would it make much difference if the spark is a bit longer- shorter ? I wonder if You ever tried it to see.

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    24 күн бұрын

    Thanks man ! Yep, I haven’t tried to swap one to see what it would do, but I suspect that it might throw the spark timing off a few degrees and make it either spark too early and the motor might kick back, or spark too late and some of the power would be lost. I’m guessing that it triggers from the beginning of the tab so the longer or shorter tabs change the timing since they all end at the same location related to the key way.

  • @_MotoMikey_

    @_MotoMikey_

    23 күн бұрын

    @@StevesDIYs Right right. So better not to experiment with it and just get the right one. Thank You. All the best!

  • @noahrosshill
    @noahrosshill2 ай бұрын

    Will later model 750 flywheels work on the first Gen 750? Or do I have to get a first Gen 750 flywheel for my 83? I ask because the later models have less wear and are much cheaper. BTW, I have your clip clip and it works great.

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    2 ай бұрын

    Hello, glad to hear the clip clip helped with the gear grinding 👍. For the flywheels, unfortunately the 2nd Gen 750 flywheels are different as these use a single pickup trigger vs. the 1st Gens using a dual pickup. They also have a much wider gear on them since the 2nd Gens have the extra solenoid that holds the Bendix gear over so it doesn’t grind like the 1st Gens do. If you wanted to do an upgrade that will make it start like the 2nd Gens, you could try to find a ‘84 or ‘85 xv1000 motor (doesn’t need to even be a running one) and take the left side cover, starter, and the extra solenoid from it and fit it up to you ‘83. The ‘84 and ‘85 1000’s were transition years so motor parts will fit the 1st Gens in a lot of cases. This takes away all of the box of rocks noise the 1st Gens make and makes them start like the 2nd Gens. Once I get caught up with work, I’m planning to do a video showing how to swap out to a 1000 left side cover so folks can see what needs to be done.

  • @noahrosshill

    @noahrosshill

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Helpful as always 🙂

  • @robosborne6514
    @robosborne65144 ай бұрын

    It's very unfortunate that they make the part's obsolete for the ole girls, I'll never go for a modern motorcycle, just use what I got, mine has only 87:000Ks on her

  • @StevesDIYs

    @StevesDIYs

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep, especially for wear parts (and they knew these would wear because they changed the design to the 2nd Gen style lol). We are definitely running out of good spare parts for these unfortunately.

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