Join me on a tour of Ancient Turkey this October with Anyextee of Adept Expeditions! See sites including Hattusa, Çatalhöyük, Karahan Tepe and Gobekli Tepe! Use code ‘Ancient Architects’ to get $200 off now. Limited spaces available. Visit: adeptexpeditions.com/tours/turkey-tour-2024/

@sitindogmas

4 ай бұрын

I would love to join that trip but unfortunately I grew some cannabis and stole some flowers 25 years ago, so no passport and I cant vote. America is so great

@Anyextee

4 ай бұрын

Thrilled to have you join us, Matt! This journey through Turkey's ancient wonders will be truly unforgettable. Looking forward to exploring these incredible sites together and making lasting memories. See everyone in October!

@ccreel64

3 ай бұрын

Enjoy! Wish I were physically able to join you. I look forward to seeing your videos of the tour.

Regarding Roopkand lake in the Himalayas, I must add that it is full of human skeletons that it is not known how they came or were transported to this inaccessible and remote place, the number of human skeletons in this area is so large that every year hundreds of skeletons melt. The ice comes from the bottom of the lake to the surface of the water, and most of these bones are a thousand years old

@stemartin6671

4 ай бұрын

It is also theorised it was a type of burial ritual as its known to be done in other parts of the world.

@paulroberts7429

4 ай бұрын

Didn't scientist do a blood study on higher elevated cultures in the areas and found they evolved to cope with less oxygen in their blood, which must of took thousands of years.

@jackieisabelajaso

4 ай бұрын

"the flood" *runs back out of the chat*

@paulroberts7429

4 ай бұрын

@@jackieisabelajaso Why is that?

@claudiaxander

4 ай бұрын

@@paulroberts7429 Recent archaeological discoveries suggest that both archaic Denisovans and Homo sapiens occupied the Tibetan Plateau earlier than expected. Genetic studies show that a pulse of Denisovan introgression was involved in the adaptation of Tibetan populations to high-altitude hypoxia.

My late husband was a software developer, and also a member of the psychedelic community in California some years ago. He knew many weird and unusual people, including a British couple who were well known for trying trepanation on themselves.

@joaomarveloso1049

4 ай бұрын

Did he get any information on the ways this procedure have affected them?

@michellestevens8343

4 ай бұрын

I think that their brains must have been affected prior to the procedure. @@joaomarveloso1049

I always enjoy hearing about these discoveries which further our understanding of ancient technologies

DUDE! I am really excited for you! Have a wonderful journey, I am sure you will keep us posted!

I imagine the procedure had to work at least occasionally or they wouldn’t have kept doing it. I wonder if there’s evidence that some of these wounds were healing and I wonder if they could estimate how long that person lived after the procedure as well. I’ve seen evidence of this in other places, but much further in time than this. Such a fascinating subject

@cherylwood5202

4 ай бұрын

I remember seeing information about one skull that showed signs of healing after this procedure. Maybe there are other examples, but I'm not sure. It seems this example was from South America and was from a much younger period of time.

@timboslice980

4 ай бұрын

@@cherylwood5202 yeah I think that’s the one I seen too. Imagine doing that for thousands of years without it helping anyone. I’d stay away from the town doctor at all costs!

You always find the coolest stuff. I love the levelheaded way your present what you've found.

In addition to the likely reasons for trepannation which you mentioned, I would add, to relieve brain pressure from an infection or parasite. It seems it might be transmissible if 40 skulls out of that group of 120 showed it. I wonder what proportion of the 40 survived the procedure. It would be interesting to know how many deaths were caused by their condition, and how many were caused by the unsuccessful attempts to save them?

@johnassal5838

4 ай бұрын

An alternative explanation could be that "if all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." Headaches from a brain tumor? Well we have no idea what cancer is but we know letting the evil spirits out of the head can help so.... While there very well have been some outbreak the fact there are forty skulls treated to trepanning they may have all been failures to treat a virulent strain of meningitis or bird flu or something.

Thank you sir!👍

Man I wish I could go!

Congratulations!!! That tour gonna be wonderful!

And good luck with these tours, you have much information on these site's to share with others,,,and the onsite expierience will expand your mind and "hopefully elucidate many new hypothesis for us ( :

Amazing discovery. The procedure must have been successful frequently. Thanks Matt!

Nice vid. Good luck with the tour!

Excellent your doing turkey done it myself its amazing looking forward to AA episode, Trepanned Human Skull are quite common in Ancient world, amazing how unrelated cultures had similar practices elongating skulls, feet binding, tattooing, crops, husbandry, construction, medicine, military, very much one mind.

Hey just wanted to say thanks for the video.

If there was no healing how are we to know the person was living while his skull was drilled? In the only example of this practice I've witnessed there was half of a coyote lower jaw inserted into the cranial cavity.

@kalrandom7387

4 ай бұрын

Enough survived for it to be a form of treatment.

I am not completely convinced that is actually what all these cuts and holes are from.

Keep up the good work

Finding burials with trephination skulls is one thing but the real question is did they live after the operation or do the large numbers found indicate that they were still learning how to drill holes into their heads without killing them. Still fascinating that they would be doing this so long ago. It keeps pushing our concept of civilisation back further and further.

Thank you.

I had seen a short documentary a good while back with a lady explaining trepanation and having the procedure performed on herself to attain a certain state of being or enlightenment. I remember her being in one of the European countries. I'm gonna re-watch, I believe she spoke on some of the history as she recalled it. anyways, thanks! always look forward to your content!! ✌️

I wonder if the holes are made usually at the same place on the skull? Also if the diameter is similar? Maybe there is a research about this done by someone?

There is so much knowledge in tbe past, we just have yet to dig it up!

Congratulations

Dude nice tour but seems a little bit expensive. I hope you do the match correctly.

Ouch,did they scrape layers away with flint or work around and around the edge expanding the hole

Finding 40 our of 120 drilled skulls is not brain surgery, that's called brain casserole.

@fennynough6962

4 ай бұрын

Yes, it sounds more like a cult releasing the evil within! Crazy that anyone would consent to this after 39 failures.

The ancients were so much more advanced than we give them credit for!

@ahumblerequest5222

4 ай бұрын

I get it 😅

3:39 love the rendering but wouldn’t the posterior buildings be built into or alongside more of a wall like structure or is this evidence of an expanding city? If there are no walls wouldn’t that potentially suggest a belief in security?

I wish I could join you on your trip Matt but age and health mean that I must stay put. Ah well - I wish a hole in the head could fix things but I doubt it 🙂.

Please consider this crazy idea,;- The pyramid is a representation of the human or deities head and the air shafts (from the queen's chamber, I think?) are the same path that a trepanner would make or whatever is supposed to exit. The accociation just popped into my head, I'm not making claims. Interesting thought.

It's fascinating that different cultures practiced this. At a time when Hunter/gatherers wouldn't be expected to share such things.

Is it possible that the trepanation was done to release the spirit from the body, when death was anticipated?

I wonder if it is an assumption to say this this was a form of medicine/healing. I do remember seeing one example of a skull that showed signs of healing after such a procedure. Wish we knew how many such examples have been found so far.

How are 8500 year old skulls found yet, the Olmec's & other Sites are said to be only a couple thousand years old, & nothing is found?

Im grateful for modern medicine.

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Me too!

@astra6712

4 ай бұрын

We’ve only increased our lifespan by 20 years

@gilesleonard6876

4 ай бұрын

20 years without holes in our heads

@bserieshatch1

4 ай бұрын

​@@gilesleonard6876replaced with a handful of pills.

@Nylon_riot

Ай бұрын

I am still thrilled with painkillers and anesthesia. Especially since they used to build surgery theaters on top of hospitals so the other patients wouldn't hear the screaming.

So do they know what they used to make these holes? Was it like a basic hand drill, with low rpm and sharped bits as to not put to much pressure to cut the skull? I cant imagine anything more than a hand drill that modern survival youtubers use as to not use electric tools. Itll get the job done but damn wouldnt i want some anesthetics to knock me out for that process.

@SchoolforHackers

4 ай бұрын

I’ve read that the marks look similar to knapping, which I’d suspect they had some skills with.

How do you know they were doing it to treat some medical issue?

Was there evidence of precision machining?

How did this city/town become buried without destroying it? A flood would have washed it away, and it must have been buried quickly enough to avoid the mud brick walls just collapsing from exposure as they do very quickly without maintenance. Plus, it appears to be on higher ground so natural sedimentation build up wouldn't come into play like it would if it was in the bottom of a valley.

I wonder how people moved around a ‘honeycomb city’? Seems a little awkward to have to walk through 5,000 people’s living rooms to reach water gathering and agriculture sites.

@johnassal5838

4 ай бұрын

They appear to have walked over each other's roofs with the front door being at the top emulating a hole in the ground. So like they were building artificial above ground caves without all the digging that making a real cave would require. It actually makes some sense if you only need to add two walls to your neighbor's house to make your own box and it's the architectural equivalent of huddling together for warmth.

@Denise11Schultz

4 ай бұрын

@@johnassal5838 Thank you so much for giving this context. I like to imagine how people from other times lived.

I am curious about the surgeon tools.

40 skulls out of 120 in one burial site. WTF???

@Alarix246

4 ай бұрын

The surgeon was extremely popular and had magical powers! And charged little!

@Alarix246

4 ай бұрын

Or just trained?

@Fuzzmo147

4 ай бұрын

Or they sucked out the brains & ate them 🤯

This is going to hurt a little bit.

I wonder what tool they used to drill into the skull since skull bone is very hard and the holes seem quite precis.

@geniexmay562

4 ай бұрын

They had both flint and obsidian.

@andrewelliott4436

4 ай бұрын

The holes might also have been caused by an, as yet, unknown weapon. Our assumptions are limited by our own, modern, experience.

Çatalhöyük was once full of people in constant litigation over fence responsibility.... then, not so much.

Hang on, this city is 8500 years old? Isn't that long before the Sumerians and the 'first' civilisation?

3.5 minutes in, I know nothing more than that I read in the thumbnail.

👍🏼

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

👍

sure they didnt cut a hole just to eat the brain?

@free_gold4467

4 ай бұрын

They sucked it out with a straw, like a grisly coconut!

👍

I didn't do it, I have an alibi!

Interesting... homeland of Neolithic Anatolian Cultivators, mt-DNA haplogroup H and Anadoluvious Turkæ.

clicked so fast I sprained my 👍

Maybe they did it to dissuade anyone looking to make a cup in a hurry!

By travelling back in time to test out neurolink, Elon Musk has both sidestepped the remit of the FDA and reduced the cost of Monkeys by 43% ! Just another example of his outside the box thinking that keeps his companies ahead of the curve . Rumour has it his next project involves travelling to 6000BC Egypt to test out 3 new next generation power plants 🤔

WHATEVER

Funny when they dated a 10 year old rock 300,000 to 2.8 million years old with radioactive dating! Funny when it's always just a assumption not proof!

So how did they assume that age?kzread.info/dash/bejne/X4OI1MVufpfUkbA.htmlsi=2Hgk_MPCaln7t9b2

/cha-tal-HOE-yook/ Could we please check the pronunciation of sites? I've known how to pronounce this since I was 19 when I first learned about it. Every time a name gets pronounced ... badly ... I cringe, regardless of the interesting information being offered. OK, finally, at the end, got it right. But it started out as "cat" several times in the first few minutes.

Maybe it will work this time.. *knocks a hole in skull* .. nope.. Surely it will work next time 😆 While brutal, modern medicine had to start somewhere and I guess it was a lot of trial and error in the early days.

30th, 18 January 2024

The Inca's sometimes did trepanning as a result of severe head injuries resulting from dangerous combative sport events and maybe war injuries, as well. Clearly they believed trepanning had beneficial effects, but the only possible positive one would be limiting internal pressure from spurting, damaged, blood vessels bleeding between the underside of the skull and the brain sack membrane which can and will build up dangerous, deadly, pressure on the brain, which can cause death via pushing the brain and brain stem out of the hole at the base of the skull in certain conditions. The problem is, this dangerous procedure was likely done needlessly far more than it was effective. Yet, how could these "surgeons" determine the difference ? They probably could not. For such an obscure, technical, practice, it's more than a little suspicious that it was done in both Old World and New World cultures - that and a multitude of other things demonstrating limited in scope and frequency but real transoceanic culture contacts.

I am green with envy! 🟩 I want to go, but I can't...old age is a bear 🐻

@TheytellToomanylies

4 ай бұрын

You just have to joint the youtube gatekeeper gang and you'll be doing your own tours at 7 grand a head with the rest of the network in no time