720hp 6.7 Powerstroke vs 700hp RAM TRX HELLCAT - CARNAGE BATTLE
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The battle of our current daily drivers here at the HQ, im pretty sure I know the fan favorite but let me know which is yours in the comments.
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It would be cool to film the transmission getting built. Mine will go into safety also when I’m hard on the throttle from a dead stop. Normal driving it’s perfect smooth shifting.
@awesomeness369
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he had a 7.3L Godzilla that he turboed 🤣🤣🤣
@hunterm4188
2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomeness369 lol “godzilla” 🤦🏻♂️ it’s a work truck motor
@awesomeness369
2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterm4188 sure it is 🤣🤣🤣
@connoresselman4985
2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterm4188 so is a 6.0 ls and they can be very fast 🤷🏻♂️
@HSKFabrications
Жыл бұрын
Try unplugging the front driver side abs sensor. Will not go into safety mode
Are you planning on welding the crank gear for the powerstroke? I'm doing a compound turbo setup, and I'm worried about spinning a gear. I don't know how often it happens for these trucks
Gotta get my transmission beefed up. I’m curious to see what you do. I’m currently looking at options.
What device were you using to clear codes?
What in the hoonigan this vs that tarnation is going on here lmao 🤣 good vid bud
what you do for the bullet proof mod?
Wonder if overdrive clutch pack is to blame... they always seem to go on 6R140s and when they aren't blown, the clutch pack has more end play than spec calls for.
What where you using for looking at codes?
I know you tuned it but would turning on sportmode for the superduty have helped with shift points with the trans?
@PompousARK
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Idk why he would bother manually shifting it. thats just asking for things to break.
You should put a built transmission then try again, my 3 and 4 does the same thing. I have a 2017 F350 Platinum with 8 ft bed and black with 1 bad tpms censor right rear
you need to have your turbo already spooled when you go to launch. and yes you can launch on the highway. break boost if you have too and keep it in a low gear with a manual shift
@anthonygibson9875
7 ай бұрын
How do you brake boost?
@oheynick02
6 ай бұрын
@@anthonygibson9875hit the brakes while hitting the gas to have turbo already spooled up. no lag in the turbo
“no weight reduction, got car seat in the back…” 😂
Mine does the same thing. It won’t restart for a few minute. It’s a trans temp sensor. Let it cool and it’ll start right back.
What app is that? For the check Engine light
Did you try shifting the 250 manually
Is that transmission doing that just because of the tunes and power?
what app was that when you cleared the code
Great video of powerstroke capabilities! I heard a podcast from Mr Primm(RIP) of midwest diesel saying he had 6r140’s come in still driving with no clutch material left. Now that’s crazy. SPE still gonna build transmissions???
@trentpetersen8754
2 жыл бұрын
My 6r140 went in with no reverse and neutral being a forward gear and was capable of driving as long as I didn't have to back up
The 6r140 tends to have issues with the valve body. If you catch it early you can save your transmission. Mine ended up torching 4th so I'm having to have it rebuilt. When I have to get into it and it drops from 6th to 4th it will stall and I have to lift for 4th to engage.
@deerturk88
2 жыл бұрын
The 3-4 flare is what kills them with lockup. *unless you run a 2nd gear lock wot tune* A vb fixed mine *sorta* but I also turned mine down from the hot boy to stock with a 64.5 from borg. Living around 700 like he is, is not only trans territory but rod territory. Ps are way too expensive to make 700-900 reliable
@tkc2406
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that happened to my 13 f150 I have to drive in manual and make sure I half my power before I shift. I’ve stalled a couple times in the middle of the road and it’s sucks. Rly sucked the first time when I had no idea what was wrong.
@hilarioalvarado3760
Жыл бұрын
I’m having a hard shift from 3-4 on my 12 f150 what’s this called a flare ? And would a tune help me out it’s getting worse and worse
Just had a suncoast cat 4 put in my platinum 😎 I can't wait for the 500mile break in to be finished 😎
Just have you a transmission built to handle it man that’s drop in the bucket for you man
thumbnail 100% worked. good job boys
@ryanbrown918
2 жыл бұрын
This vs That!
@PowerstrokeSynd
2 жыл бұрын
Got me too
Is that the same 6 speed I have in my 19?
Probably one of the best videos you guys have made, don’t stop here! Oh and the platinum won 🏆
Are you using tow haul mode or manual shifting? If not the torque converter probably isn't locking and that would burn up the transmission...
@davidsimmons1285
2 жыл бұрын
Friggen goof.
Please film the trans rebuild! Awesome vidja bois!!
Hmm “this vs that” format nice 👍🏻 😂
The essentially stock line got me. Same brother, same.
I understand the desire to match horsepower but with the amount of torque the diesel puts out would it be enough to beat the TRX at a lower level, ie 600-650 horsepower?
@justinfannon8159
Жыл бұрын
horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. lol
8:06 me at the movies buying popcorn
In for the trans rebuild !
TRX needs a Hellion twin turbo kit 😁😁👍👍
It’s a ford brand, what did you spect?
I have a 2019 f250 CCSB fx4 platinum. I too have a 3rd-4th gear upshift problem. Pretty sad to me how the Achilles heel of the 17-196.7L in my eyes is the transmission. Tuned my truck at 700 miles, 66k miles of romping the throttle later the atf looks good and all my other shifts feel just like the day I drove her off the lot but god damn that 3-4 shift just feel like I’m getting rear ended by a Peterbilt. Other than that no complaints from mine might just get a sun coast when she gives out. Any suggestions would be appreciated thanks.
@TopCorey
2 жыл бұрын
Start with a complete trans fluid flush and filter
@alexisenrique794
2 жыл бұрын
@@TopCorey i was also gonna look into getting a better quality valve body seems to be the culprit behind the sloppy shifting
@taylor3915
2 жыл бұрын
Proven tunes are the only ones that really have the 6R140 trans tuning figured out. PPEI, Chaos, SPE, GDP, etc all suck in comparison and that’s with many experience in all of them after the proper KAM reset and trans relearn procedure
@cjmccaskill
2 жыл бұрын
@@taylor3915 Why do you think hat Proven has it figured out over say PPEI or SPE? I am just curious, because I currently have a SOTF tune from PPEI. But I am always on the lookout for a better option or slight advantage over the other.
@jakey20022
2 жыл бұрын
The Ford 10 speeds have problems period.
My 19 psd shutdown on my before on the highway I got the trouble codes of lost connection to ecu and pcm
Fun videos to watch but in reality anytime you add power mods your bound to run into problems eventually
@8:56 why this part made me laugh so hard lmao, this is a classic clip yo, wassup with that cluster broooo
High power does mean less engine life?
Have a ‘19, 6” LA on 38s, deleted. My truck hated 2nd to 3rd, thought my trans were toast until I swapped to 4:88s. No issue anymore.
@evanmixon5929
2 жыл бұрын
Should have did a 60 roll
Let’s get this going again!
I wanna see a race but with a good transmission
@CoyoteFTW
Жыл бұрын
The “Allison” 10L1000 used in every Heavy Duty GM truck is actually an evolution of the 6R140 from Ford/ZF, used in the previous generation of Super Duty. The Allison 10L1000 is a actually near mirror of the Ford 10R140, with a few proprietary differences to apply to Allison's engineering and currently held patents. Transmission holding 1000trq stock doesn’t seem bad to me. People flooring it driving it like it weighs 3000lbs they’re not sports cars. Stupid to think any stock transmission is going to hold that power especially dodge transmission.
That's why you don't shift. Just step on it it's an AUTOMATIC!
You need a new pressure regulator!
When I bought my 2015 f250 6.7 new I instantly deleted it and tuned it with sct on Cooper custom tunes. 8” lift 37s ..Blew my trans at like 50k and again at like 90-100k Kilometers also shredded a front and rear driveshaft from boosted 4wd launches lol now I have another 2015 and i baby it . ( the things you learn lol )
With the trans upgrades cant wate to see a rematch
Monster Trans man I put one in mine love it
Doesn’t the platinum have a trans tune lol
I wonder how much faster it would be with the 10 speed
@carter.coleman
9 ай бұрын
In powerstrokes the 1st 3 gears are super slow but the thing just PULLS once it gets to 4th and 5th
Sooooo, when are you going to do a tug-of-war?
The 10 speed in my F-150 slips 3-4 when it’s cold. But after it’s warm it’s a non issue.
@kylechrestman6955
7 ай бұрын
My 2019 did that from 6k miles. Pulled thousands of miles with that little eco boost and it pulled amazing. But my 10 speed had that slip from 3-4 or 3-5 when it was cold. I just continued to drive it and it was never an issue
Awesome trucks Will you rebuild the trans soon?
@TopCorey
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy, tearing it out soon!
@samuelbowden7738
2 жыл бұрын
@@TopCorey sweet can’t wait to see run with a good trans. Hopefully you will race the TRX again
So 250 vs 1500? Just wondering about the gear ratio differences,, thats all
@chixxs4665
2 жыл бұрын
Both 6 speed they will be similar, the trx will have longer gears but the diesel can hang in gears and still get up n go
might be time for a new trans in the powerstroke
That f250 is almost 10,000lbs and the trx is just over 6000lbs. 3500-4000lbs difference is huge 😂
@fpvdominator9563
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know where you got 10,000 from but the super duties only weigh up to 6700 pounds
@jlweck231978
2 жыл бұрын
@@fpvdominator9563 10k is wrong. The gvwr is 10k I believe but the truck does not weigh that empty. You are also wrong though. Each truck is different but that truck weight easily over 7k. My 18 f350 crew cab short bed not even a loaded truck. Just an xl with stx package and a few other things like 5th wheel prep, bed liner, 360 cameras, 4x4, diesel.... and full of fuel and def with me in it I am just under 8k on a scale.
@DrAppleCrispies
2 жыл бұрын
That f350s torque pulls through big time.
@josephc1701
2 жыл бұрын
@@fpvdominator9563 my 2020 250 weighs 9k?
@nfb615
Жыл бұрын
That's 250 isn't 10k. More like 7500 to 8k. A dually 1 ton is more in the 10k range
Man I really wanna see the race done again but still a good run I think we all understand how much power that plati has so it can have some problems
Did u have to put that music
I was interested in this but the videography zooming in and out and shaking was making me feel nauseated. Put the camera on a tripod or something?
Wish we could see a race from a dead stop too to see which can get it going faster
@TopCorey
2 жыл бұрын
Soon for sure
@Louthemailman
2 жыл бұрын
the diesel would get the dig it has way more torque
@CoyoteFTW
Жыл бұрын
@chick3nwings 3 how many transmissions and hemis would it take tho
I cant wait to race one of them trx's with my stock 6.4l. emissions delete only.
@iliebita9602
2 жыл бұрын
You get walked
@ronniebray6143
2 жыл бұрын
Will see about that
@bradgraystock5966
2 ай бұрын
6.4L FTW That is until the head gaskets blow, the turbo calves, the fuel pump explodes and sends shrapnel into the injectors, the sand cast block ruins the cooling system and the powder steel pistons melt down. As a bonus the 6.4L will runaway after the race is over from excessive fuel leaking past the rings into the oil pan.
Warren diesel shop for the trans. Andy is awesome up there and would take great care of you!!
That's the biggest difference. You can make a thousand passes on the trx zero issues. Modified f250 might be quicker on the top end but it will break down more often.
@htownsfinest87
Жыл бұрын
He literally said his trans was already out the door
Ken block and his daughter laughing lol
Love all the comments about trying to build it to beat it. Just buy the trx. I have 0 regrets and it’s cheaper to buy it with the warranty instead of voiding the one on the other and having tuner issues
@ZACH_95_
2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, you have a ram, there's nothing special about that truck except the engine, which in a a couple years you'll be saying bye bye to them for good because there getting rid of these beautiful engines for electric junk.
@FindingMyOwnPath
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZACH_95_ H8ers gonna h8 😆👍
@mercilessmenace3107
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZACH_95_ nothing special about a ram? Fords have looked same for a decade, same old trash interior and mid exterior 💀
@Limited-uq2yk
2 жыл бұрын
@@mercilessmenace3107 rams also look the same and have terrible build quality. Not to mention the hemi being a big pos
@ohboy2592
2 жыл бұрын
Just by an 3.5 ecoboost, put $5000 into it and beat the trx in everything while saving $50,000
Why would you compare a 2500 to a 1500 series
I heard the 6 feet is bulletproof
You gotsta get that trans built my man...been limping it long enough. You haven't even begun to feel the capability of that thing until you get that trans to hold. Done put slow as shit 37's on it. Keep it on stocks. Or go to street treads. That truck deserves to be a highway roller
@MrSmoush
2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. That would be the finishing touch to make a truly fun truck. I’ve got my truck set up similar to his and it’s terrifying off the line. Will burn 13.5 wides off on the 2-3 shift and smoke them through 5th. I may even make less power than him. It hasn’t been to the dyno.
Nice video on how to toast a transmission lmao yes the truck will shut off & go in limp mode basically lock you out.
Nice having money to fix it, too. 😁
I want to see a gasoline Godzilla engine push rod supercharged against that TRX hellcat
when built these diesels are no joke there torque monster
👉💨💨💨TWO BEAST OF TRUCKS😎‼️
Tbh I almost thought this was this vs that
Can u still get deleted ez links tunes
2 different trucks, built for 2 different purposes, HP is kinda close, but the torque is nowhere near eachother
SPE valve body time!!!
I had a 600 whp 24 valve Cummins that put down 1200 lb ft, what the hell is that 6.7 makin for torque!
i wonder how the aisan transmission would do
@TopCorey
Жыл бұрын
trash
How much money total is in that Ford ?? 100k or more ?? Hennessey makes a 900 hp and 1000 hp tune for the TRX or you can go bat shit crazy and get the Hellon twin turbo kit for the TRX.
Need both trucks to be at the same power 720 WHP That's gonna be a race👍👍
@sxsale9775
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not much of a difference, it’s the way the trucks put down the power
@fiddynutz68
2 жыл бұрын
Except you can't take the 1,200 ft lb of torque out of the powerstroke 🤣
@h.rivera4726
2 жыл бұрын
@@fiddynutz68 True but just like a diesel engine with simple boltons the TRX will be faster than the powerstroke. To get a diesel truck to run 10s takes more than just a tune.
Seems like the Trx was really holding back
I'm confused on why everyone is tryin to race against a TRX. The TRX is limited to 118mph and it was all built purpose off-roader against the raptor lol .. if ram built an all purpose street truck like Ford has with the Shelby supersnake f150 then I'd understand the comparison. Any modded diesel will beat a gasser. Them diesel can take tons of mods to be insane fast. But at the end. If the ram TRX was built to a street truck like an art version I'd bet to believe it smash.
I was a car guy since 1982, the second year of high school. I had a friend who told me many years ago about a Ford truck that had a big block 460. It was for racing. When they have problems, it's usually not Ford's fault that it has issues. It's usually other companies'. That powerstroke ci engine in your Super Duty had an injector pump manufactured by Bosch Corporation from Germany. What was the problem with them? Over there in Europe, compression ignition engine fuel has a greater lubricity than what's sold here in North America. It's coming closer to being gasoline than ci fuel. Why don't I use the word Diesel fuel? That's what the person's name was. Rudolph was his first name. So yes, it was Rudolph Diesel who invented the compression ignition engine. That's the reason why I use that acronym. Another reason is that an engine isn't able to be a man, and neither could it be the opposite. I wonder why Ford started using that transmission for the Super Duty truck, knowing that it isn't capable of handling all that torque? That's possibly the reason why the stock truck has such poor acceleration. They want to protect that transmission.
my 19 f350 alumiduty handles 3-4 fabulous tuned & deleted topped off @120 and tht was sketchy asf!😂🤙 big truck going tht fast is a unreal feeling..
@nikitasharabarin3756
2 жыл бұрын
well let off on throttle when at 120 lol
@daymenhinrichs1965
2 жыл бұрын
You ain’t lyin
@bris9984
2 жыл бұрын
@@nikitasharabarin3756 who's your tuner?
@nikitasharabarin3756
2 жыл бұрын
@@bris9984 ez lynk with GDP...
@bris9984
2 жыл бұрын
@@nikitasharabarin3756 how much are their tunes? Lifetime?
Bet that torque converter is slipping 😂
Ford f-250 super duty 2022 vs RAM NIGHT EDITION 2500 2022 💯🙌🏼🔥
Blows up trans and starts laughing lol
Ttthhaaats why the grill is in the back.... caution I may break and cook y'all lunch lol
The 10 speed has 4 too many. The 6 speed is really tough. Same with Duramax put 3.73 back in it and 6 speed Allison bullet proof. But some injunear says oh 10 will be better.
@blayden_1n44
2 жыл бұрын
Well for hauling the 10 speed is better, they built these trucks to haul not go fast, for speed and toughness yes a 6 speed Allison is a hell of a transmission but these trucks are built for hauling
@techs1smh13
2 жыл бұрын
When you're hauling 15 k toy box on a slight up hill what gear is your 10 speed in. I'll guess 5-6. With 35 " tires 3.73 diff.
Never bring a knife to a gun fight!!!!!
Truck went into limp mode
It’s called TORQUE
Thank god you cleared the code if not you might have still been there
I'm not an expert lol but shouldn't you let the truck shift
There is powerstroke for ya.
I say do a rematch on that race that trany started giving up and do a race from a dig
That's no problem the TRX have good power to and that's good
Wouldn't be a video with a ford without it breaking down atleast momentarily, lol.
@mattieice4689
Жыл бұрын
Honestly…Diesels really aren’t meant to be modded. Look at any videos with modded diesels from the big 3 and someone always breaks something. To successfully mod one without breaking stuff you have to rebuild your entire powertrain. If you are putting 700 horsies to the ground but your transmission can only handle 600…then you can probably bet on what’s going to happen.
I just want a exhaust with small tune
HP is how hard you hit the wall, TQ is how far you take the wall with you.
transmission went night night