If they receive no punishment now, they will become abusive, irresponsible men. They need to understand that someone died at their hands.

@gime5323

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but he did have a decision to drink or not to drink...

@mikebooth5942

3 жыл бұрын

Blame the parents !! It's still they're fault !!!

@SUGAR_XYLER

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikebooth5942 it sure is!!

@resiack

3 жыл бұрын

Is that not punishment in and of itself?

@GoblinStomp

3 жыл бұрын

Technically the kid that died, did it to himself. No one forced him, he wanted to act like a cool college kid and be in the frat filled with a bunch of losers.

They need to crack down on these College hazings. Hopefully, these College guys and anyone else involved in this young guy's murder do have to face charges for this young man's death. This is the not the first time this has happened and a person has died as a result of it.

@torriebrown9607

3 жыл бұрын

Well Said it not Necessarily

@mikebooth5942

3 жыл бұрын

More proof that college kids are idiots!I

@GoblinStomp

3 жыл бұрын

The kid did it to himself dude, alcohol kills everyone knows that🤡

@connorbaird8342

10 ай бұрын

@@GoblinStompfound the frat dude

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

@@GoblinStompit wasnt alcohol dipshit shows how much you know

We live in a world of no personal accountability

@strafer8764

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@MysticDonBlair

3 жыл бұрын

he is old enough for marriage, military, children, etc... he’s old enough to be responsible for his own actions

@nathanmcandrew4778

2 жыл бұрын

@@MysticDonBlair absolutely, as were they. A pledge that walks out's social life is hell from that point. He made what probably was a miniscule wrong decision that moment that ended up being a fatal mistake, essentially he was sentenced to death. Don't know if you're implying these guys shouldn't be charged, and idk if all them should, but the one that assigned him to drink as much as he did committed criminal negligence at least. Or are the people who are no longer here the only ones responsible for their actions?

@robertgreen9980

2 жыл бұрын

Right. The last time I had too much to drink was nobody's fault but mine.

Drinking an entire bottle? Damn it’s one thing to throw a party and keep telling your friends to have fun and keep taking shots, but to make them drink an entire bottle can and will likely lead to alcohol poisoning.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

thats not how he died

@SAsh-zg6ln

6 ай бұрын

It’s very common for fraternities to force pledges to drink a full bottle. Especially during their crossing ceremony

Waiting on these 7 guys to be labeled knuckle dragging thugs by the media. Put these criminals UNDER the jail

Tragic that schools keep allowing this to happen

I am taking bets on the only one seeing the inside of a cell or any real punishment is the black kid.

Hazers get off on humiliation and control. Fraternities and Sororities have nothing to do with gaining a proper education.

@pri.sci.lla.

3 жыл бұрын

Nope it’s all about paying for connections.

@KitEKat-io9vu

3 жыл бұрын

@@pri.sci.lla. Bingo!

@dhaloh

2 жыл бұрын

@@pri.sci.lla. connections with dumb people

This was an issue before i went to college in 1973, it was an issue when i went for my masters degree in 1984, it was an issue as long as i have lived near large colleges with a major Greek presence. It's going to continue to be a problem as long as these "brothers" think it's ok to give under age individuals, who have never had alcohol before a task to drink enough alcohol to turn a 50 year alcoholic drunk. I had people criticize me when i let my kids try a sip of wine or beer when they were 13, the time many kids start snitching wine coolers and beer from the family fridge. Then something harder when they were 16 which is an age kids get more serious about drinking in high school. I did this so they would know what alcohol feels like, so they would know what if felt like in a safe enviornment. They had been coming home with stories about classmates getting drunk and sick. I didn't want them to be one of those kids who got taken advantage of. They are both in their 30's, neither one drinks alcohol they "never learned to appreciate the bad aftertaste and hangover"..

@adminsucks8806

10 ай бұрын

My mum did that as well. Makes me drink the Vodka when I was 13. She just puts them on the counter, but none of my sibling were even curious because we tried it. Some students try inviting us to drink but I was not all curious about it anymore. I can drink it at home but I just chose not too. I prefer strawberry milkshake.

@lauren9004

10 ай бұрын

Good for you for sticking to your parenting

College hazing is becoming more of a problem these days😷

@JerkingLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

No, I’d definitely say it has gotten better. However, there is still remnants of it in fraternities to this day.

@MsCarringtonsYoutube

3 ай бұрын

It's definitely gotten worse

@user-hh4hc2lt6e

2 ай бұрын

It’s definitely gotten better.. the only reason it seems to get worse is because nowadays they actually get news coverage … but this has gotten better as people hear about the stories more and more .

The real remedy to this, is to close all fraternities, and sororities in all colleges. Replace them with student housing. What do they offer, anyways? Do children really benefit from drunken brawls? They will for their own friendships with their peers, not be chosen like prize pigs to advance the house's status.

@thecrucible4126

2 жыл бұрын

Yup Get rid of em

@Danielle-nz9tn

Жыл бұрын

Well said!! People act like fraternities are going to solve their problems. More like they stunt your emotional growth, from what I can see.

College administrators should also be blamed. They should know what is going on on their own campus.

@glyndablackledge4810

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@yourboymalikcoleman8731

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@jjmaciel926

Күн бұрын

they should ban greek life, Im not even joking

As a BGSU alumnus, I can tell you with certainty that the university's Pike chapter was by far its most infamous campus organization. "Pike spikes."

@joanneweiss3864

3 жыл бұрын

You know well. My son was there 2016, told me awful stories.

So in college a bunch of rich kids drinking, being loud and acting stupid are called a "Fraternity". Out on the streets, a bunch of poor kids drinking, being loud and acting stupid are called a "Gang". People are so effin stupid.

Hazing is so 1970's. Don't do it or subject yourself to it.

@MsCarringtonsYoutube

3 ай бұрын

It still happens very frequently within this current day and age

Those intitled kids are not taking any accountability for there toxicmasculinity environment that's fosterd by the older men.

They dont want to go to prison, but they HAVE 2

Senseless death.

Imagine committing murder, and pleading not guilty. Disgusting.

As someone who has been in a frat for years and drinks hard, I would never in my life tell someone to drink an entire fifth in a night... especially a lower class man new to drinking and not as physically big. Shits just negligent asf

Those aren’t brothers. Brothers look after one another. They killed that dude. Lock em up

If my kid joins a frat, I swear I'm going to stop supporting him financially

I am glad I could only afford community college the first two years for my sons!

This was going on back when I attended college, too. And that was decades ago. Time to hold people accountable for this nonsense!

What kind of “group” forced loyalty in the face of assault, rape, humiliation and abuse? Sounds like a CULT to me…

As a male college student, I say 100% please ban hazing. It's utterly pointless and cruel. If you want to test a person's endurance, make them run a marathon instead. At least they'll be doing something productive.

The seventh guy, Caldwell, is a mannequin?

These are literally the same type of boys that would either drug or predate on a drunk woman. Punish them before someone else gets hurt or killed.

@Thundernymph

2 жыл бұрын

I know. Frat boys become like a pack of dogs when together.

he is old enough for marriage, military, children, etc... he’s old enough to be responsible for his own actions

The entire fraternity should be removed from the college and the college should be fined heavily

@iamkristina2003

4 ай бұрын

NO

Every person present, even just watching in the back, needs to be charged !!! My son went to BG many years s ago & thank God he & friends never wanted any frat involvement. I can't imagine💔💔💔😡

@pri.sci.lla.

3 жыл бұрын

No they don’t. Nobody but the individual are responsible for their own choices. Nobody forced him to drink or join a frat.

@joanneweiss3864

3 жыл бұрын

@@pri.sci.lla. wow. Just wow. You obviously have never read or heard all the deaths everywhere or been around or related to 20 yo males so ignorance is bliss I guess.

@mikebooth5942

3 жыл бұрын

Good for you grandma

@Danielle-nz9tn

Жыл бұрын

Frats are ridiculous and basically exist because people are insecure and lacking a personal identity. Very sad. I want to see more stringent laws against hazing. Doesn’t seem like these kids are learning anything by past deaths from hazing, and/or don’t pay attention to the news, and/or just don’t care. Very sad.

When is this stupidity going to end

They should be held accountable.

@robertgreen9980

2 жыл бұрын

Why?

@jya7284

4 ай бұрын

@@robertgreen9980they killed someone that’s why Are you dumb or what?

Jail time for the frat bro’s. If nothing else, a couple of hundred grand fines on each one should keep these a holes in line...

@iamkristina2003

4 ай бұрын

nope

This is why I never wanted to go to college for any type of sports

What the hell is a HAZING??

@karenhardie1132

2 жыл бұрын

Stupid rituals they make kids do to join a fraternity in college. Most involve drinking large amounts of alcohol.

this is why frats should not exist. gives the ppl that are in it too much ego and make them the most irresponsible people known

So ok, coming from a guy who did not attend college a few questions: Q1: Is joining a fraternity a requirement for a college degree? Q2: What are, if any, are the benefits of being in a fraternity? Q3: Are all fraternities just party houses as stereo typed? Q3: Did the kid have the proverbial gun-to-his-head, or did he drink voluntarily?

@truehappiness4U

2 жыл бұрын

Jointing fraternity is not mandatory, many people don’t join it. It is always the extraverted people who join it in the hopes of making friends. Most people also join it because of peer pressure, thinking it will make them cool. It’s all honestly super cringe. People who join fraternities, most of them are still childish in their head. That’s why they join it, to have fun and forget about being an responsible adult.

@robertgreen9980

2 жыл бұрын

@@truehappiness4U Thanks. Just as I thought. So fraternity or not, this kid would have went to college and drink himself to death.

@thebestcentaur

2 жыл бұрын

As an undergrad and graduate brother of a fraternity, the benefits depend on the type and what people look for. I think the most obvious and desired are a lifelong bond of brotherhood, networks, connections, and usually a much more…vibrant social environment, shall we say. Many a president, government official, successful businessperson, actor, athlete, or groundbreaking professional in one field or another has been associated with one organization or another (heck, 3 of our last 5 Vice Presidents are or have been members of a fraternity or sorority, as well as Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Clinton). There are professional, academic, and service-oriented fraternities and sororities as well, so no, not all orgs are just party houses; unfortunately, too many very much are.

@robertgreen9980

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebestcentaur Thank you. Therefore, in my opinion, fraternities are worthless and produce nothing I want nor necessarily need. I know more people with better values than you described that have no college education, let alone a frat member. So now when I vote, I will no longer vote for a candidate that has been a frat member.

@Danielle-nz9tn

Жыл бұрын

@@thebestcentaur sounds like an elitist secret society for boys.

How many times have we heard this, these facts, this type of story? A fraternity killing a boy with alcohol? Hazing, ALL hazing, is evil, and dumb.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

it was fish oil. the article left out that there was so much dehydration from sanda because of the fish oil they forced down his throat. it was the equivalent of drinking a gallon of sea water

@documax123

10 ай бұрын

@@sleepytwitch wow. Unbelievable. Thank you.

Exhibit A: why being an oddball outcast to beneficial to one’s health. Not frat house related BUT: During my 3rd year of college(which was my 2nd year of college at San Francisco State University academic year of 2003-2004) there was the drinking “rite of passage” I had heard of via overhearing my underclassmen called, “21 for 21”, which meant upon you 21st Birthday, to commemorate being legally of age to drink alcohol, you take 21 shots of hard liquor (I cannot remember hearing the type of hard liquor) . I remember during that academic year I was living in the on-campus apartments, but was registered to take my meals at the nearby cafeteria (mostly visited by freshmen living in the dormitories I had resided in the year before) and one evening upon leaving that cafeteria after my dinner, I managed to witness a team of paramedics taking out from my old dorms on one of those patient carrying gurneys(sp?) a young man I could see to be in his early 20’s. I overheard from other students nearby that he had just turned 21 and he had partaken in the “21 for 21” shots challenge (this was the first I had heard of it and had not encountered this behavior before or since) with his friends beside him to ensure he completed the feat, to celebrate his birthday that day and as a result he had passed out and was unresponsive and that was why paramedics had been called in for him. A few days later, as I was walking to the cafeteria I happened to overhear some nearby students talking who were living in that same young man’s dorm building. Apparently, that same young man had suffered alcohol poisoning from that night and had passed away. Here I am, now at 38, and this incident is one of the memories of my college life that continues to stick with me to this day.

They are completely responsible though. ENTIRELY!

@robertgreen9980

2 жыл бұрын

Why?

Soo sad

Oh wow

This is horrible, why are people so stupid that they do what these guys tell them too do!

@MouseCIick

3 жыл бұрын

because mommy and daddy approval is not good enough and probably because of tik tok.

@karenhardie1132

2 жыл бұрын

To fit in, desperate for friends.

Your son made his choice, no one forced him to drink. These people are making mockery of the court.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

drinking and alcohol were not the cause of deaths reported by autopsys

Gosh how awful

Hello, My name is David and I am severely disappointed and sad. Yours truly, David.

Is it compulsory to pledge to a group at college?

@karenhardie1132

2 жыл бұрын

No, those organizations are optional. Kids join to make friends.

@yogi8284

2 жыл бұрын

@@karenhardie1132 thank you for your response.

when will frats learn?

Don’t do it. Stop being stupid and be your own person and don’t have to do anything you don’t want. He should’ve never drink it. He could just walk away because his ego was in the way. I’m not sorry

@pri.sci.lla.

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I didn’t think it’s their jobs to be responsible for his death. He made his choice.

Put them All in jail....

@evelisseescobar8616

3 жыл бұрын

It seems lives don't matter, they are out on bond, shopping, out and about, while someone is in the grave, his life us over, their lives should be also...if that happened there would be less crime...people would think twice, before committing crimes. They knew what they were doing, they need to pay, ALL OF THEM!

@iamkristina2003

4 ай бұрын

no

Parents should be charged for raising a tool

@iamkristina2003

4 ай бұрын

noooo

They all need charges for manslaughter.

He could have said no!

ALL Of Them Are GUILTY By ASSOCIATION! Either give them LIFE without Parole or the Chair. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@pri.sci.lla.

3 жыл бұрын

You’re delusional if you think they’re gonna get life or a death sentence

@ludy41

3 жыл бұрын

Are you mad?

@pri.sci.lla.

3 жыл бұрын

@@Haas1_ if you were smart you could read he clearly said LIFE.

@strafer8764

3 жыл бұрын

You have to be joking. You want people to spend their life in prison over another person’s choice.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

@@strafer8764me when i force enough fish oil down somoeones throat to cause dehydration so much he passes out n then i remove the evidence before taking him to the hospital

All fraternities need to be destroyed. This is unacceptable.

Cant get them all but Bullies are the worst, they just cause misery.

And theyll do it again, they probably thought it was funny. Typical

Lock all of them up!!! For years!

This makes me so mad. A law should be made in name of the hazing victims.

@KitEKat-io9vu

3 жыл бұрын

That's really a good idea!

Get ‘em all!!!! Don’t let them slide

May he rest in eternal peace. 🙏

@based_mediumchungus1788

Жыл бұрын

hopefully the afterlife is an eternal IV hydromorphone high. that would be great.

The "split the bottle night" idiot frat ritual has been around for over 100 years. While tragic, the death of this young man isn't the criminal fault of the group he wished to join.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

the alcohol was not the cause of death. educate yourself

The parents knew and he knew how stupid it was, and he voluntarily walked into the flames. For what? To be in a fkn frat?!

stories like this make me glad my school doesnt have a greek row

The college frat boys are the worst.

What happened to these killers? Any updates on this story? Walked off free I'm sure.

0:27 are you fucking kidding me?

Theose 7 guys are responsible for his death

@robertgreen9980

2 жыл бұрын

How snd why? Say a gal has consensual sex with a guy then get a fatal STD. Is the guy to blame?

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

@@robertgreen9980if the guy said he was wearing a condom then yes. the boys in the frat blocked the water taps, and force fed him fish oil, which (surprise surprise) is super salty and actually the cause of his death, not the alcohol.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

@@robertgreen9980also alcohol wasnt the cause of his death by autopsy reports

You should of pled guilty all of you. Enjoy a longer time in jail.

Woah not guilty?

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Stone? Is that a name?

School was made to get grades. Work was made to make money. That's it.

Take these punks down!

Looks like him

Jail time!!!!!

Download

🥺

One of them sure knows how to wear a mask.

God Bless this ,Family this is truly ,Sad !!!

Bury Them Alive.

Why would you even try drink a whole bottle if you don’t have a high tolerance I just don’t understand don’t !

@00fendifranklin41

Жыл бұрын

Not even 21. With great power comes great responsibility. He should’ve had McDonald’s on the phone the whole night staying hydrated drinking water and being social though. There are some cases so much more worse. It’s the culture that exist there. I actually came to see the judgement and adjudication.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

@@00fendifranklin41theres a couple articles better than this one that give the full story. the boys at the frat covered any and all water taps while they were in a drunken sleep, preventing them from hydrating

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

thats not how he died the news is spreading lies about how this kid died. anywhere else will tell you it was dehydration caused by water taps being blocked and the amount of fish oil that was FORCED into him

@luissantos1801

9 ай бұрын

He was in a frat… peer pressure is extreme there

The must be prosecuted and locked up for good

They all are guilty!

Delta is now on double-secret probation !

@robertgreen9980

2 жыл бұрын

@Anastasia Beaverhausen absolutely funny

Remember Sanda dia when you watch this.#sandadia

What there faterity pay off the judges or something 😮

folz was light weight man

Tbh no one forced him to drink did they he dould of walked out not really murder is it

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

alcohol was not the cause of death

If this was herion they all be in jail but alcohol is league drug

Guilty!

Guilty!!

Freemason sacrifice ritual , associated detectives give stand down order and rule suicide

PUT THEM ALL IN JAIL TO DO 25 YEARS EACH....

@bigbattydeja

3 жыл бұрын

They didn't even do anything, people like you irritate you've probably never spent a day of your life in jail

Rich white boy. He'll walk.

@pri.sci.lla.

3 жыл бұрын

As they should. Why are they responsible for someone else getting so drunk they died? He wasn’t forced to drink.

@henryruggsiii3970

3 жыл бұрын

@@pri.sci.lla. Yeah they say that they “have to do it” but they don’t. It’s always the person trying to enter the frat who is at fault

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

@@henryruggsiii3970theres a difference between having to do it and the frat making it ten times harder to do it. they cut off all hydration, and then the final straw was the fish oil, which contrary to this article, the autopsy says the amount of fish oil is what caused it

"I don't want to but I have to" How about drink a whole bottle of orange juice afterward then run to the toilet to throw up when nobody's around to see it.

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

access to hydration was cut off

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

@@SaynabYusuffhe did not choose to stay dehydrated tho which if ur educated is how he died. all the water taps were covered by the boys, they prevented anyone from hydrating

@sleepytwitch

10 ай бұрын

alcohol was also not considered the cause of death by autopsy reports

i mean he drank a bottle of hard liquor himself.

@MysticDonBlair

3 жыл бұрын

IKR

@ylarrymore

3 жыл бұрын

Like if peer pressure isn't a thing at that age. Everybody knows these kids are lied to, pressured & humiliated all at the same time. Wheres the accountability from his brothers before him? He's not some 30 yr old man.

@MysticDonBlair

3 жыл бұрын

@@ylarrymore he is old enough for marriage, military, children, etc... he’s old enough to be responsible for his own actions

@ylarrymore

3 жыл бұрын

@@MysticDonBlair you can join the military at 18, but they won't sell you alcohol until you are 21 for a reason. The fraternity brothers are guilty for not getting him help. If you witnessed a car wreck would you just stand there & say it's their fault they were going too fast? At least call 911 🙄

@MysticDonBlair

3 жыл бұрын

@@ylarrymore you can drink in the military at 18 when you are overseas... which is where most soldiers go. The man was 20 years old

Pikes - big surprise.

Murderers with dim futures.