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@hasithahirushan5993

4 жыл бұрын

Bryan Can you do a super efficent pc build using a rx 470 or a rx 570... that would draw under 150W on load....

@outtheredude

4 жыл бұрын

Still using a 4790K as of 2020, only on a Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK (v1.0) motherboard (@ 4.4GHz all core with MCE), with 32GB (8GBx4) of Crucial Tactical Tracer 8-8-8-24 2T 1600 DDR3 (@ 10-10-10-30 1T 2000).

@gismo3564

4 жыл бұрын

Bryan you should look into manually tuning the memory instead of overclocking the 3300x. Cheap ballistix sport lt 3200 have been shown to easily run 3600 with tight timings resulting in sub70 ns latency and an uplift of up to 25% without even OC the CPU.

@noegthezemeraldghostie6287

4 жыл бұрын

Are you going to test the i7 2600K? 9 years going on to 10 and I still think it's a decent CPU.

@corneliusantonius3108

4 жыл бұрын

My i7 5930k is alsoo 6 years olsd now. 😜

The problem with the 4790k's is they still carry that "i7 tax" (in my market at least ). And they are actually MORE expensive than brand new Amd ,and Intel chips. And they are still selling at these prices. I mean I get it. Some people just don't want to buy into a brand new platform. Great video yes man!

@JABelms

4 жыл бұрын

No, that's just the retailers trying to get as much out of their unsold stuff. A retailer in my town is still selling an brand new FX 8350 for $250 and an HD 5870 for $350. Logitech G19 for $250 also. If you are talking about used yes, intel usually retains more value over time. An 2nd hand 1800X and a 2nd hand 7700K costs $200. The problem here is that 1800X used to be $500 and the 7700K was $300. I7 4790Ks still cost $170 in the 2nd hand market where I am at

@virtual-adam

4 жыл бұрын

140 AUD (£77) for a i7 4790K AND 16GB RAM + 1TB HDD!! In the UK just an i7 4790K will cost you £150+. What a bargain!

@phrze

4 жыл бұрын

@@virtual-adam Sold a non-k 4790 for about £120 just because people will buy it for those prices, most times it's just customers stuck on older hardware that can't spend enough money to overhaul everything.

@VladimirCordas

4 жыл бұрын

@@JABelms asking price for a used non K 4770 starts around 100€. At least where I'm from...

@AaronHendu

4 жыл бұрын

Someone recently sold a 4770K locally on Kijiji website for...$40 CAN...I missed it.

Still rockin' my 4790K. I'm gonna miss the old girl when I finally retire her in two years or so.

@asdf-ni1jt

4 жыл бұрын

@@iPhone4Gaddict pretty sure that will happen within two or so years, before that even potentially

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

4 жыл бұрын

@@iPhone4Gaddict the i7 4790k should be good for a while yet

@joefish6091

4 жыл бұрын

software and games are not going to magically change in the next five years, the thing that will change the market is RISC-V, but that is mainly aimed at server farms with their obsession over efficiency and power consumption. ie RISC-V is going to be massively configurable and scalar.

@hublehardos8472

4 жыл бұрын

I am on a 1440p 144hz monitor with my 4790k and Vega 64. I still have good performances. I think keep it for 2 or 3 more years.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

4 жыл бұрын

@@hublehardos8472 wait until amd bring out their 4th gen chips then look for a 6 core👌

Finally 4 cores 8 threads on budget CPUs. From 2010-2017 flagship CPUs to 2020 affordable CPUs. Long wait is over

@knifeyonline

4 жыл бұрын

yeah 3300x and B550 with 5700xt... amazing budget options... when your budget is $2000 lol

@icepick2407

4 жыл бұрын

@@knifeyonline I just built a 3700x b450 + 2060 super rig for less than 1200$ mate. Did the price for these parts in the US go up that high ?

@frommatorav1

4 жыл бұрын

@@knifeyonline 3300x plus b550 motherboard about $280. $70 for 16Gb ddr4. $60-130 for SSD or Nvme depending whether you go 512Gb or 1 Tb and which type you get. $75 for case. If you get a 5700xt about another $400 but that's the max video card you should get. You could get less expensive one. Total is $955. Where do you get $2000?

@frommatorav1

4 жыл бұрын

I did forget about PSU and keyboard and mouse, which could be another $50-150. Still around $1000 not $2000.

@mashiroinoue

4 жыл бұрын

AMD could’ve given us 4c/8t since 2017 Ryzen. Why they didn’t do it is obviously: *ANTI-CONSUMER*

17:00 The Seller of the 4790K either wanted to sell the system quickly or had no clue what the going price was.

@bojankotur4613

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly! Just look at the damn market and find me another deal like that one.

@shawnpepin7890

4 жыл бұрын

Keep your eyes open and you'll find them. Got a 4770k and Aio cooler for 70 bucks on my local kijiji and sold my i5 4690 for 80 the weeks after. Made 10 bucks

@bojankotur4613

4 жыл бұрын

@@shawnpepin7890 you are missing the point. The OP claims that he bought an i7 + mobo + 16GB of RAM for 140 AUD. That's not just a good deal, it's a steal. It is statistically impossible for everyone to get a good deal. The prices fall within standard deviation. You will get a few good deals and a few pricy ones but most will be around average market price.

@lucasrem

4 жыл бұрын

4790k failed, the 5820k was the first gen good CPU, why did people buy so many crap CPU, this community too, recomending crap over that 5820k and 6800k model! now, see how pathetic he is.. 5820k and 6800k are still good 2020 gaming CPU's, that DDR3 thing was crap on release!

@m8x425

4 жыл бұрын

I saw someone on my local offerup selling a Core i5-4670k and a Gigabyte z87-SOC board for $50. Last summer after Ryzen came out, I bought a Core i5-4690k, Maximux VII Hero, and 24gb of RAM for $60. A few months ago I got an FX-8350 for $25 and it worked well. The deals are there but it helps if you live in a Big City, you check the 2nd hand sites frequently, and most of all is you have to act quickly. The best time to look is after a new hardware release.

Wow, I've never been happier that my 4790k, with a Z97 board and aftermarket cooler was free. Good enough for my needs for a couple more years!

@janoskis4727

4 жыл бұрын

same here, with exactly the same board! seems like only need to upgrade the memory and im good for a few more years lol. nice.

@xChoChoSSx

4 жыл бұрын

Same boat as you 2 with mobo as well, just need more/ better ram and a better gpu. Currently have a gtx 1060. All free by the way only money spent was on my case

@Relic142

4 жыл бұрын

What is your power draw? I imagine those old chips overclocked is running like a small heater.

@drakcoreoriginal

4 жыл бұрын

@@Relic142 That is what most people miss, the power consumption. Over a few years, the extra power draw costs $$$, you could of bought a new CPU with that money that went into power usage.

@elemkay5104

4 жыл бұрын

@@drakcoreoriginal Not even. You're not going to save that much over the course of a few years. Everything 3rd gen and above is fairly efficient.

I still use my i7-4770k I bought brand new when it came out, runs like a champ have been very happy with it

@DisableMe123

4 жыл бұрын

did you pair it with a new GPU ? i have the i7 4770xeon counterpart with a r9 290. kinda need an upgrade in fps

@MrJimissnake

4 жыл бұрын

@@DisableMe123 i use i7 4770k oc at 4.4 at 1.177v core bit of golder lottery i pair it with msi gaming 1080 and 16gb ddr3 2400mhz....i play 1080p most things ultra and i am realy happy...tho i am thinkink a lot to upgrate only cose i dont want my parts to lose lots of value

@alphasixty1316

3 жыл бұрын

still running my 4670k , I ran it clocked for many years at 4.2, with a huge air cooler. I I now run it stock, it is paired with an r9 290

@RodolfoGeriatra

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJimissnake indeed, mine simply won't pass the stress tests I use or stand gaming for much time without cranking it up to 1.35v

When a 6 year old PC is better than your brand new gaming PC

@Edmundostudios

4 жыл бұрын

2500K ain’t even retired yet lol

@skoopsro7656

4 жыл бұрын

didnt do your homework

@nahpets2345

4 жыл бұрын

@@skoopsro7656 Schools are closed, wow

@Derpynewb

4 жыл бұрын

@@Edmundostudios it's near the end of its life cycle. It can do 60fps in most games but at near full throttle at some. Vr needs more than 60fps so for that. It's oof. A 3300x will give a performance increase of about 15 percent. Same core count so old games will still run fine. But that's if your 2500k was at 5ghz. Which not many people have. Stock cooler 3300x is great

@miniweeddeerz1820

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. The smoothness and frametimes on newer CPUs are far better due to IPC and instruction set improvement

It's called the Devil's Canyon for a reason... hopefully these i7 4790k will go down in prices.

@joefish6091

4 жыл бұрын

no need to lower prices unless compatible mobos vanish. CPU makers have invented themselves into a corner, old ones are good enough for average users.

@cheedam8738

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, didn't know there was a reason behind the codename.

As an owner of an i7 4790k it is hard to justify upgrading at the moment. One bad thing about these older motherboards are the m.2 slot is not much faster that sata3.

@strydyrhellzrydyr1345

Жыл бұрын

You sound like you would be someone to ask... What boards take that cpu.. and.. what other CPUs can it take.. like 5th gen... 3rd gen

@baoquoc3710

Жыл бұрын

Twice the speed of SATA 3. At least you can have a cheap nvme ssd and you will still feel snappier than SATA

4770k gang, still holds up great in 2020

@jaggsta

4 жыл бұрын

pretty much still can play 60 fps+ ultra if have decent GPU. will be upgrading when DDR5 is released though.

@dylon4906

4 жыл бұрын

Jaggsta won’t ddr5 be expensive on release? I wanna wait for zen 4/am5/ddr5 but I don’t know if I can wait the extra year and if it’s too expensive that gives me a reason to just buy am4 now and stick with it

@gaspererjavec7108

3 жыл бұрын

4.7ghz oc playing on 4k ultra with a 3090 here

I remember my 4790k, preformed super well and to be honest would still be extremely capable today

One thing to note about that 4790k overclock issues. I had one for years running at 4.8 no issues. Then out of the blue later in its life I had to reduce the clock by .1 every year till it was back at stock to stay stable. They just breakdown overtime, this is why you find them for sale ;)

@zero_pc_6234

2 жыл бұрын

Thats odd been running mine at 4.8ghz for over 5 years now with over 1.37 volts no issues.

@Youngthunder7

2 жыл бұрын

Ive been running mine at 4.8 Ghz for two years now and I feel like it's starting to perform weaker than it did before overclocking it. Also seems to crash more often now

I’m still rocking a 4790 on a H97 with a “fast” 1060 and couldn’t be happier. Handles everything I throw at it! Already considering a beefier PSU and a next gen GeForce. Should still be fine for a 24/7 gamer and home office user like me! Love your channel by the way! Great stuff

@Topsealguy

4 жыл бұрын

CambridgePunk what monitor do you have

@codymaverick94

4 жыл бұрын

how much ram do you have?

@conkcreet

4 жыл бұрын

I got gtx 970 with mine

@CambridgePunk

4 жыл бұрын

Africa I use a 27” Asus PB277q 75Hz

@CambridgePunk

4 жыл бұрын

Cody Maverick Just 16GB at the moment, but already look for a 2nd 16GB Kit on eBay

I love how you included an older flagship CPU in this. My 4790K is running at 4.6GHz and enjoying 55-60 FPS on MSFS2020 and it's at 63°C. Wow that CPU was my best investment EVER

@TheShahzebShaikh

Жыл бұрын

hey, are you still using that cpu?

@athgt6630

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShahzebShaikh yeah!

@TheShahzebShaikh

Жыл бұрын

@@athgt6630 how is it performing? any games that it barely runs? im planning to buy one soon

@athgt6630

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShahzebShaikh idk I only do flight simulation where it does really well, if you have a good GPU it will be good for games with intense graphics. Games that need a lot of cpu will be more difficult

@jblcharge3_basstester

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShahzebShaikh i use an xeon e3-1231 (i7 4770) and its performing really well so id say get an good deal on the i7 4790k and itll be worth it

Bryan, I am still rocking a Z77X-UP5-TH with an i7-K. I owe a lot of this to your channel and videos. The performance from this machine is phenomenal for FCPX. I hope more people realize that older hardware is good for a lot of workloads. Thank you and God speed sir.

Seeing this fills me with joy as my daily driver is a 4790k delidded and overclocked.

Where the hell did you find that 4790k combo for 140? I cant even find the CPU for that price in Aus

@FireMrshlBill

4 жыл бұрын

Ya, a 4790k in the US is $140+, have seen some completed ebay sales up around $180. Then a motherboard on top of that, especially a Z, will double that price. Its hard to justify starting a build from scratch with 4th gen in mind, especially with Ryzen pricing. However, if someone already has a 4th gen build and needs a cpu upgrade, a 4770k goes for closer to $100 ( have seen them go for

@craigsommerville3863

4 жыл бұрын

@@FireMrshlBill Ryzen has pretty much destroyed the value of old intel builds at the prices most people still try to sell them for. Sure you can find some rare cheap deals but 1600 AF, B450 Ds3H, 16gb 3200 for $223 right now online.

@FireMrshlBill

4 жыл бұрын

Craig Sommerville ya it’s insane. Great time for building pc’s where budget pricing gets your more than budget performance. Toss another $250 on a gpu and you have a decent 1440p rig for $500ish.

@rtmpgt

4 жыл бұрын

Gumtree, usually. I score a lot of my PC bits off gumtree :)

@jb678901

4 жыл бұрын

Landed an ASUS P9X79 Pro (mint condition with box and accessories) + i7 (3820k) +32GB DDR31600 Fury Hyperx + CoolerMaster H412S CPU cooler...all for $220. Replaced the i7 with E5-1680V2 for $155. Basically, the entire setup cost me $300 given market value of the i7 last year. This rig will hold its own against the Ryzen 2700x.

Nice video. Just thought of upgrading from my old i5 4460 to something newer, but I guess I'll just get an used i7 4790 for the time being and wait for DDR5 to become cheaper

Best techtuber actually sees things from point of view of a consumer gives very good and realistic suggestions and get into benchmarks immediately

4790k "The Beast" is still a monster in gaming !

@eskimooo8742

3 жыл бұрын

its really not

@imp9ct239

3 жыл бұрын

Try playing rust or eft 😂😭 it’s good but not great I can’t use my 144hz monitor to its full extent.... but it is good for a 60hz or 80hz monitor ig no monster here tho

Have had 4790k for 8 years. That thing has been a monster. For it's class and time, it was one of best built and designed CPU.

@BravoSixGoingDark

Жыл бұрын

Still using it in 2022. I'm going to hold out until Meteor Lake Drops in 2024.

@JoeWayne84

Жыл бұрын

@@BravoSixGoingDark yep same

@BravoSixGoingDark

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeWayne84 Updated reply, Still using it 2023. Hoping for something better in 2024 - 2025 to replace my aging 4790k. 😅

My I7 4790K With GTX 1080 8GB founders edition and 32gb rams in year 2023 still holding up any games, now playing Diablo 4 with ultra mode.

@user-ev4ov6wr1d

8 ай бұрын

You're exaggerating. Any CPU demanding game will be bottle-necked by your slow CPU substantially, you just don't see it, and I know, because I had my RTX 3070 running on a 4790K temporarily, until I finished my 13700K build. Trust me, those 8 P-cores, and 8-ecores in combination with 5.3Ghz and a large 30MB cache, and the fact that you can use faster ram, faster PCIe ports, faster NVMEs exploded my frame rates of that same card in Red Dead Redemption 2 on ultra inside the main city. Don't even get me started about video rendering... it blew my mind.

Those old I7s still hold up and can beat up new generation of CPUs now in 2020, way to go for used price performance builds!!

@jilianjing7549

4 жыл бұрын

wait until you realize that it's cheaper (usually) to get the new parts

@ABaumstumpf

4 жыл бұрын

@@jilianjing7549 That HIGHLY depends on your area.

@catriona_drummond

4 жыл бұрын

I would prob baly not buy a used one. They still are quite expensive on the used market. But imagine having bought a system with it in 2014. It's still good, can support a beefy Graphics card and has probably 2 good more years in it before it really starts struggling.

@franky4000

4 жыл бұрын

I made a build (keep in mind, 2 years ago, AND time constrained AND in quebec,canada where the used market is inexistent and overpriced) got a board (cant remember which) with 8gb of ram and an i5 2400 (or 2500) with a strix gtx950, well able to run mud run, american truck sim with mods, and more at or above 60fps, for only 477$ CAD including keyboard, mouse. (about the same un AUD, which included a 40$ for me to build and cover petrol expenses) if you are on a budget, definitely buy 1 piece at a time and be patient and you will get the best $/performance, no contest.

@franky4000

4 жыл бұрын

@@catriona_drummond Luke from LTT said he had a 4th or 5th gen (4790k or 5960k?, cant remember) cpu, and still able to stream and game until recently, when it began to struggle.

You got an amazing deal on the 4790k, usually they're pretty pricey because people know they're still good. And why upgrade your Motherboard and ram (for Intels newer processors which are only slightly faster), if you don't need to!

What's pretty clear these 4 C, 8 T are all anyone needs for most of their work (not including rendering and other workstation loads, and esports gamers).

@thedarkflameknight7942

3 жыл бұрын

For base needs yes but for more heavy tasks its age will show. Its ok for everyday users and some gaming.

Why not DDR3 2400MHz CL9-9-9-24?

Used marked prices are all over the place depending on the country. Heck, here we still have retailers selling i5 4570!!! as new products for 200€, used i5 2500K still get sold for 100€ sometimes (who ever buys them that overpriced). And the i3 10100F - well, performing the same as the normal variation... would still be better if it was like 15€ cheaper.

Glad to see 4790k, i have one myself for little over 5 years. Had to undervolt recently due to high temperatures, until i delid. The thermal interface Intel slapped on it is really holding this CPU back

@jaggsta

4 жыл бұрын

still using 4770k i got 7 years ago for $199 from microcenter deal. I only had to upgrade the GPU to play Ultra 60 fps+

@stageselectca

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't get undervolting to work on my asus board, the adapative vcore setting seems to be busted.. works if you lock the mhz of course but I'm trying to reduce power usage as well. was pretty easy to delid though

@Trikipum

4 жыл бұрын

@@stageselectca THis happens yes, at least in my motherboard. If you want to use adaptative and keep voltages low, you have to add a negative "offset". The option is there somewhere, but then, even the offset thing is busted.. So you basically have to test changing the offset and using CPU-Z to see the real voltage you are getting at max load, play with the offset until you get the voltage you were looking for in CPU-z. It is how i do it in my z97 motherboard anyway...Hope this helps.

@stageselectca

4 жыл бұрын

@@Trikipum thanks yeah I did try that at one point but gave up because it wasn't always stable.. and then I read cpu-z might not even be accurate so who knows what to believe hah. maybe i'll try it again now that have more time on my hands..

I love that you included my old 4790k I was wondering how it would compare against modern CPU's. Looks like I wont get much extra for my money so il stick with it for now. I Appreciate your work.

@chaosen3

4 жыл бұрын

The 4790K really is a gem of a CPU.

@Shoddragon

4 жыл бұрын

to be fair, he's comparing it not to the modern price equivalent but to the modern core count equivalent. Just goes to show that the overall max IPC increases for CPUs since 2014 hasn't particularly drastic and most of the improvements were frequency and utilization of DDR4. Comparing it to the price equivalents, the 4790k gets rocked by stuff like the 3700x due to double core count, accompanied by SMT being enabled on each of them.

@scubasausage

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shoddragon The 3700x isnt much faster in gaming though as games dont use all those cores. Its not worth the cost of upgrade.

@Shoddragon

4 жыл бұрын

Scubasausage there are a lot of games that can push the the 3700x over 50% usage, meaning the 4790k would be maxed out. Even my 2700x outperforms my old 4790k in most modern games due to having extra headroom: stutter, 1% lows and 0.1% lows can impact the experience more than just average FPS.

@scubasausage

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shoddragon You have a faulty ()or you just havent overclocked it) 4790k then as the 4790K beats out the 2700X in every test I have seen published. Also id much rather have a 10700K than a 3700X as the difference can be 20-30fps in some games. Dont get me wrong, AMD CPUS are superior in most ways and most users should buy them. But the tests and reviews clearly demonstrate their weakest area is gaming. Which is all I use my system for really.

Great information! Your videos are great, because you are actually informing us about processor differences, like performance with certain patches applied and not applied.

I built my first rig in 2015 with this and a 980ti and it's still a beast.

Haswell and its refresh were pretty awesome back in the day.

@jb678901

4 жыл бұрын

Just did the BIOS turbo unlock on the Haswell E5-4678V3 that I picked up on eBay for only USD101. 12 Cores, 24 Threads...with an all core turbo of 3.2Ghz. I used Miyconst's step-by-step guide, which IMO is an excellent reference: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i62hy9GiiJy5dso.html Coupled with quad channel Mushkin Redline DDR3 1866 (4 x 8GB at USD120 on eBay) on a HuananZhi X99TF (USD 99); couldn't be happier. Snowman (USD 28) dual 120mm RGB 6 pipe cooler keeps the CPU under 50C at FULL Loading. Unbelievable.

@mrlithium69

4 жыл бұрын

@@jb678901 fix the link

@jb678901

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrlithium69 Done. Sorry for that...thanks for the heads-up.

Thank you for actually testing these things on a graphics card they might actually have a chance of being paired with

Love your and Greg's videos Bryan. It'd be really interesting to see your take on this CPU with the newer RTX 3080 & 3090. Your video on the x58 chipset was awesome! A lot of people (myself included) are still rocking the Haswell and there is not a lot of decent info out there for how it would fair with these newer Nvidia GPUs on the 3 main resolutions.

Problem with the 4790K - finding one at an affordable price. I know of a store that still has them new, but they *insist* on selling it at the original price so that they "don't lose money on it", just like the extremely old PCMICA TV tuner card they also have in stock at original pricing (box looks it's been on the shelf in the sun for the last 15 years). And the second hand market is even worse. BTW, that motherboard if it's anything like my friends Z87-P D3 or my H97 HD3, it'll be kneecapping the CPU heavily - at stock with single channel DDR3 1866 my Z97 Sabertooth MKII ran my 4790K faster stock than on either of those Gigabyte boards with dual channel DDR3 1600 and the 4790K at 4.6GHz (can't go higher with the 1.2V cap). Even my Asus H87M-Pro was better - it could run the 4790K at 4.8GHz safely and didn't have subpar performance.

"It's not about the number of cores, or the performance, it's both."

I was going to go the route of upgrading my old haswell I5 but in the end it's dead so went ryzen 3600

@tadejsadar7033

4 жыл бұрын

I upgraded from i5 to i4770k. Well, I think it was good call, it will help me to wait.for Zen3. Then I will buy top of the line cpu.

Man 4th gen was so cool. I'm still rocking my i5 4690k 4.5Ghz, 4x4 1866Mhz , 24/7, 75c max 28c ambient for like 3 years already and still going strong.

The Yes Man says he's a 6 core, but you're an 8 core in my book buddy. Nice video! And I don't know if there are different dates for the holiday in Australia, but coming from the USA I want to say Happy Father's Day to both you and your dad. Have a good one.

Still running my 4790k overclocked at 5ghz with a AIO, never let me down, never given me a reason to upgrade.

@oshanemclean208

4 жыл бұрын

What are your voltages? I overclocked mine to 4.8 @ 1.28v with HT off. I can get to 4.9 but only with 1.34v

@wiesel222

4 жыл бұрын

@@oshanemclean208Dont turn HT off its the thing why the old i7 is still alive in modern games :D. I only can get my 4790k stable (prime95) to 5ghz with 1.4 volts and at this point the thing is realy hot, 100% load arround 90-95°C but with 1.35 it runs "okay temp" on 4.9 ghz stable. In gaming u will not see much more than 70°C. I using liquid metal and a h100iv2 aio, but going to switch soon to an noctua NH-D15 its quiter and cooling is the same. Dont forget to OC your cache but i think u should not going much higher than 1.25v on cache, RAM also lower timings and higher clocks helping always. But in the end its an old CPU and as long u can keep the temps cool just give this thing all u have to get the best performance out of it. Sorry for the bad english, german guy here :p

@thisissparta7572

4 жыл бұрын

@@oshanemclean208 im @ 4.7 Ghz stable with 1.236V low temps HT on Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO with push pull.. I think that's the sweet spot.

@teodorcatalin1121

4 жыл бұрын

@@oshanemclean208 @4.7 1.280v Noctua Nh-D14 98-100*C prime95

I would love to see a few benchmarks comparing the 4790k with and without the overclock and the different ram combos (1600 vs 2133) just to see what difference the ram really makes

@scubasausage

4 жыл бұрын

After seeing this video I ordered some second hand DDR3 2133 Corsair Dominator Platinum (CL9) to replace my Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer DDR3 1600 (CL8) and I have noticed a significant difference like that described above on my system with an RTX 2080. Far Cry New Dawn in particular seems to run a lot better.

@basicbenchmarker1251

4 жыл бұрын

@@scubasausage I've actually just picked up the same Corsair 2133 ram and will do a comparison video with 4790k, 2133 vs 1600mhz both 8gb and 16gb tests

@scubasausage

4 жыл бұрын

@@basicbenchmarker1251 You're more thorough than me, I find myself wishing I had bothered to benchmark everything before I upgraded. But cant be bothered now. Its definitely an improvement for me though. Hopefully enough to hold out until next years CPU's drop. I just wish it wasnt so tall! I can just get it in under my NHD-15 and close the side panel. But only just!

Been playing at 1080p60 ultra for years on a 4790k and see absolutely no reason to upgrade anytime soon, it's not worth the money. This CPU is so underrated.

@joefish6091

4 жыл бұрын

the price for new and renewed suggests retailers fully know the user value of the 4790

@joefish6091

4 жыл бұрын

ditto anything socket compatible with 4790 or 7700

The 4790k's longevity makes sense when you look at the big picture: the 6700k is really only ~10% faster at the same clocks and the 7700k is just a 6700k that is capable of clocking higher. That means a 7700k running at 4.2ghz and a 4790k running at 4.6ghz will perform very similarly (not counting DDR4 benefits obviously). I only retired my 4790k last year because the 2700x was on sale for like $150 at my nearby Microcenter. Will be giving my 4790k system a good home in the living room however as an emulation machine or something. I can probably slap in a GTX 970 I have lying around or something as well.

@shadowswithin702

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe if you get into VR you could use it for that in the living room, might need a beefier graphics card though.

I just bought a bunch of Haswell stuff recently lol. Then I see this video randomly get uploaded in my feed. Really cool seeing how well it performs compared to ryzen

I still have the 4790k i7 in my main PC, paired with a brand spanking new MSI 2070 Super :D Mine also runs at 4.7Ghz without delidding, so guess I got lucky :P

@trash3570

4 жыл бұрын

Dude devils canyon chips are so much better than their predecessors. My i5 3570k cant even hold a stable 4.4, but maybe I just got a dud

@pessimist3090

4 жыл бұрын

@@trash3570 my 4690k can barely hit 4,3 stable on air delidded

@trash3570

4 жыл бұрын

@@pessimist3090 wow that's fucking awful for a delidded chip, hopefully we get better luck next time lol

@1Shignog

4 жыл бұрын

I had a old 3770k that could do that, but it was ona very good board as well

@theodorthiele

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm running 4.7 too, but mine is delidded. It's stable all the way up to 4.9 ish but it takes so much higher voltage, and I kinda enjoy having my CPU cooler basically being idle and keeping it under 60C for gaming.

all these years im still running i7 4770k on Gigabyte Z97x-UD5H-BK and 16GB DDR3 1600mhz... only thing i have upgraded is my graphics card. old system is still gaming with no issues..

I bought my i7-4790k/32GB RAM back in 2015, so basically when it started. I honestly do not know when it'll need replacing as even today it serves ALL my needs. I do software development, a bit of video editing, and gaming. Bring on 2021

17:00 No, no no... One time deals are not used price / performance. You have to be able to buy it again and again at that price and you can't. The i7-4790k costs way more used than either the 10100F or the 3300X and don't forget the 3100 as well. The Z87 used costs way more than a new motherboard for the other 2 new CPU's as well. DDR4 is now cheaper than DDR3. I just don't see any used / price performance in an old i7 sorry. Then there's no upgrade path with 4th Gen.

@dh8496

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't want to call him a liar about the deal he got on that i7, but I've never seen anything like that anywhere.

@oxfordsparky

4 жыл бұрын

i recently got an e5 1650v2 6c/12t 3.7 for £60, an x79 sabertooth with noctua D14 for £100 and 16gb(4x4gb) of 1866 ddr3 for £25 and a brand new(from a store, not private sale) rtx 2060 for £250 so other than storage and case so that's £435 in total and it runs super happy at 4.5Ghz all core and beats the 4790K everytime. yeah i have very little upgrade path other than gpu but nearly every game i play are gpu bound anyway so i'm gonna be good for years on this setup unless something fails.

You should see what my sons 4790k gets with 2400mhz CL15 ram then! And a 4.7ghz OC to boot lol. Which is hilarious in comparison for such an old gaming CPU. Married up with the MSI Gaming 5 Z97 board and a GTX 1080 @2088mhz (Zotac AMP EXTREME) Corsair vengeance ram 24gb (was 32 but you got it a stick died) It really is spectacularly holding its own so many years later, it's awesome as he's still got a PC that will last for a while before I need to upgrade it for him still! Crazy great value! I had that PC from brand new, self built of course. 😂 (Original GPU's, GTX 970's SLI MSI Gaming X cards with the MSI HB Bridge LED version.)

@mryellow6918

4 жыл бұрын

currently have 2933mhz cl 16 at 4.8ghz. but it struggles to keep up with a 2080 im always dropping fps .

@CitizenTechTalk

4 жыл бұрын

@@mryellow6918 Nice OC mate! & 2933mhz wow! But yeah that's why I stuck with the 1080 for the Intel build, perfectly matched, the 1080ti had exactly the same issues you're having with bottlenecks when I did some benchs against the 1800x back in the day. Anything above a 1080 is just too much for that little CPU that could sadly, but hey 1440p high frames on ultra for most games, still can't complain, my son doesn't 😂. Plus my daughter is getting the 1080to soon with the 1800x build as well which by comparison makes the AMD rig perform at exactly the same (slightly better FPS) as the Intel build so neither can complain moving forward for quite some time. I'll probably be going Big Navi this time around, with my 3900x as price will most probably be the mitigating factor on principle alone 😂. But we'll see what happens once we see some real world benchmarks yeah? P.s I reckon even a 2070 Super would be walking that line also. 1080, 2070 best bet for the max performance.

I'm still rocking the 4790k at 4.6Ghz 1.25v 16GB 2400mhz CL 11 (XMP) with a MSI Gaming 5 mobo and it still does really good, but there's a few games where it shows its age, but mainly cause of high CPU usage, which has more to do with the 4 cores 8 threads.

i bought an i7 4790k when i was 14. 6 years later and it still works great. I dont do work on it anymore, switched to a macbook pro, but for the gaming i do with a nice overclock, in winter i can go to 4.8 ghz but in the summer i turn it down to 4.5 - 4.6, it still works great. looking to invest in new pc parts again, probably looking at a ryzen 4700x and 3070.

Voltage waaay too high on 4790k. Might explain temps, mine is on 1.255v and does 4.7ghz solid!

@_Tesla_Corp._

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, 1.39V is insane. Mine is on 1.23V for 4.6Ghz

@mr.waffentrager4400

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha my ryzen 3 goes 1.47 volts

@jaycook6952

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.waffentrager4400 your ryzen will be dead soon lol

@nathangamble125

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.waffentrager4400 Unless you're doing that to get a big OC out of it, undervolt it dude! Mine (2300X) doesn't go above 1.3V.

@jaycook6952

4 жыл бұрын

yep my 4790k is at 4.7ghz at 1.256v and finishes cinebench r20 over and over, scores 2211 points, just below a 7700k

With a decent board you can even have nvme to go alongside your 4790k.

@timalexander746

4 жыл бұрын

Or use an ASUS Hyper m.2 Card :)

@tadejsadar7033

4 жыл бұрын

I have it, with z97 board. Works fine.

@iSkiLLeTXx

4 жыл бұрын

Literally upgraded last weekend to 2x 970 nvme on my old 4790K xD

Running a 4790K overclocked to 4.65GHz on an ASUS Maximus VII, with an R9 290X. Built this rig 5 years ago, and frankly I'm still looking for a reason to drop another wad of cash on a new rig. I know I can get more, but the fact is, this does what I want of it (WoW, D3, Doom, and more) at 1440p with great frame rates. Maybe 11th gen intel or 4000 series AMD.

Ah, I remember my old 4790k build. 4.7@1.25 w/2400 cl11, not going to lie, I kinda miss it. Was a monster at 1080p. Moved onto 4k and ddr4 now.

Tbh ill just buy a sandwich since I'm broke af

@kazutosamurai-sama3166

4 жыл бұрын

Even that is expansive, just buy a gum

@jaywilbur515

4 жыл бұрын

@@kazutosamurai-sama3166 just one?

@kazutosamurai-sama3166

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaywilbur515 yeah, not enough for more than one

@djflex6923

4 жыл бұрын

Can I have half the sandwich... or gum?

@973walid

3 жыл бұрын

@@djflex6923 😂

Still fine with my i7 4770 and 2060 (good 2nd hand deal oh yeah :D )

@szpynda

4 жыл бұрын

I have 3770K@4.6GHz/DDR3 2400MHz 9-9-9-24/2060 Super

@viperdemonz-jenkins

4 жыл бұрын

have the I7 4790 non K, 16GB 1600 9-9-9-24 DDR3 ram and a 1660 super, and it does its job very well. 60 plus in high/ultra 1920x1080 in most all games.

@metalvideos1961

4 жыл бұрын

​@@szpynda can i ask what the name of your ram sticks are? for some reason i cant find any ddr 3 sticks higher clocked then 1866mhz in the netherlands.

I still have my i5-4690k paired with GTX 970 SC. No complaints. Dont need a new pc. Ive had the 4690k since 2014 with the Z97 ASUS Sabertooth Mark II. Never had a single issue. No need to spend hundreds of dollars for a system. Save your money. Especially during these times.

i’ve got so many z97 4790k systems sitting around it’s crazy, I love this video

@dylanallen7720

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I’ll take one off your hands

@Topsealguy

4 жыл бұрын

Aeelanis I’ll buy one

@OpressivePeach

4 жыл бұрын

I keep them for friends and people at work, I meet a lot of console gamers and I convince them to join the master race.

4770k is still a beast 7 years later :D

13:03 1.39V is insane for the 4790k. That is the reason of the hell temps. Mine needs 1.23V for estable 4.6GHz and this is an avg result, I ve seen better chips. In the worse escenary, with a really bad 4790K , I don't think you need more than 1.25-1.26v for that clocks

@martinrakovicky1189

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah..i think he has one of the worst samples..i got mine on 1.3v 4.6ghz..and I thought that mine was bad :D

@mryellow6918

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinrakovicky1189 1.35 for 4.8ghz all core idk what hes using but this has to be one of the worst 4790ks iv ever seen i i thought mine was bad not being able to do 4.9 at 1.5v

Updated from my 4790K (to 3900X) before XT refresh was announced. Nice video timing. Was thinking of doing a 4790K tribute video too as it has served me so so well!! (2014 - 2020)

I have a 4690k on a non overclock able board. Paired with a 2070super. Instead of upgrading all at one I decided to go with new GPU first. I *REALLY* to upgrade because I get 100% CPU usage even at 4k.

I recently upgraded my beloved 4790k to a 3600x sold it with 16gb hyper x fury ram for £200

@dankollars4501

3 жыл бұрын

do you think it was worth upgrading? i have had a 4790 for almost six years and considering upgrading to the 3700x. did you notice much more speed overall or just with multitasking?

@Zarrx

3 жыл бұрын

@@dankollars4501 I'm looking at upgrading for NVME storage via m.2 and micro itx options. the non-k does perform worse than the k variant too. Just food for thought.

@metalvideos1961

3 жыл бұрын

not really worth the upgrade. the 3600x is only 2 percent faster then the 4790K. the only benefit you got here is that you can use DDR4. thats literally it

@amr.c1650

3 жыл бұрын

@@metalvideos1961 are you actually quoting userbenchmark? Lmao

@pszyk.o.9074

3 жыл бұрын

@@amr.c1650 2%? Stop trollin

Finally I see a day where the good old i7's and i5's no longer competitive to new generations...

@Dawnbandit1

3 жыл бұрын

Already not competitive when it comes to multithreaded tasks. Zen+ solidified that.

11:56 Finally, I found an accurate explanation as to why is my 4790k is getting these insane temperatures at just 1.225 V 4.5GHz. I've been searching for months and I didn't found a single person talking about that on the internet. Nice video keep it up!

I actually have a secondary PC with 4790K @4.8ghz 2400 cl10 mem and 1070 Ti. 1070 Ti is on a "cheap" custom loop I threw together from spare stuff and discounted stuff I managed to buy (as a test for my full loop that is now done as well for past few months, it was great training lol). The 4790K is on NH-U12S, liquid metal ofc (delided). That delid dropped 27C on average for me. Temps never reach above 80C in aida and 86C in prime 26.6 and thats with a decent cooler so these temps you shown are a bit weird but maybe your chip is just not as good as mine (got lucky lol). Cinebench r20 goes to 70C max with this cooler. Runs that 4.8ghz @1.35V (can do 4.9 1.39V but that also needs a better cooler to keep it cool during full usage tasks that are not gaming), then again its on MSI z97 gaming 5 mobo which is decent. Top PCIE slot is dead unfortunately tho so only got 3.0 8x for GPU. But again, its just my backup lol my main is basically super high-end. Gets 2.3k multi cinebench score (r20) and single is 450 (best result I had with 4.8ghz). Still great backup and when someone else from my family needs it to do stuff that could use some perf (light editing etc. from my siblings).

When are we gonna play some COD?

@orionstar3310

4 жыл бұрын

Haha lol you went unnoticed bro

@electabuzz5227

3 жыл бұрын

@@orionstar3310 who cares nobody haha

@vunniee

3 жыл бұрын

@@electabuzz5227 I do haha

@question4984

3 жыл бұрын

Wtf?! It's Ed ooh

@realmccoy220

3 жыл бұрын

Yo ed!!!!!

Sadly the 4790k still overpriced in the used market :(

@chronology556

4 жыл бұрын

David yeah, still.

@josejuanandrade4439

4 жыл бұрын

How fun, i gota 4790 (the non overclockable version) for free, about a year and a half ago, and it replaced an i5-4460. That pc has so much life still, is crazy! It games perfectly at 1080p, the cpu runs at 4ghz pretty much all the time :)

I was running i7 2600 with 16GB DDR3 RAM for last couple years. Basically , to upgrade something I had to change everything (mobo, CPU, memory, and case). I had a choice , buy a 5-6 years old pc with i5 for ~180-220£ or get a RYZEN 3 3100 , B550 mobo , 16GB 3200mhz DDR4 RAM and new case for 275£. I bought new RYZEN with B550 mobo and this way I have a decent new pc that I can upgrade at any time. The prices of the older i7s are simply ridiculous.

I was on the 4790k until this september when it finally gave up. Was still performing decently in newer games even at 1440p. I now upgraded to a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and couldn't be happier. But I will always remember the 4790k Goodnight, sweet prince

@user-ev4ov6wr1d

8 ай бұрын

I switched too recently, but not to AMD, I hate AMD, unreliable junk, the people with the strange issues on forums often run a system with an AMD CPU or GPU.

@Yaenu1093

8 ай бұрын

@@user-ev4ov6wr1d You either fell for intels marketing department or youre a bot

Holding on to my Haswell i5 until AMD releases a new platform.

@ADreamingTraveler

3 жыл бұрын

the zen 3 cpus are kinda impressive. 15-20% fps increase for 1080p games compared to the zen 2 cpus which were already pretty great performance for the price

ARRRGGGHHH!! Ya Scurvy Seadogs best be learnin that yur CPU makes a great eyepatch when sailin the ocean blue!...on a computer game. God no don't go outside. Sunburns are dangerous! Arrrrgghhh!

@mohdfaizal6773

4 жыл бұрын

Huh, so u are the pirates💡🤔 that gave him the thumb nail pic idea. 😂👍🤣😅

Good to see a youtuber end up with a mortal cpu 1.39v for 4.6ghz! If the vrm wasnt onboard I'm sure this would be easy to tame but obviously didnt happen on haswell. I did get a 4770k a few weeks back that would do 4.6ghz on 1.3v, I actually removed the liquid cooler(had all the wrong bracket parts and a bad fan) and ran a snowman cooler.

I was a few clicks away from ordering a Ryzen 4750G when I was offered a free MSI Z97 Gaming 5 board, 4 × 4 GB DDR3 1600 CL9, Radeon R9 280 (non-x), Cooler Master Case with two 20 cm fans, and a few other things. In this context, buying a 4790K from AliExpress for almost 120 € (!!) seemed like a good choice. I still hope a Radeon 6700 XT will be mine some time this year. Got a 4K display with 40-60 Hz FreeSync.

I'm still rocking the i5 3570k with a GTX 970 and everything is still running pretty smoothly. Btw I overclocked the 3570k to 4.3Ghz with your old tutorial!

Still using my 4790k delided at 4.8ghz with vcore 1.335v; 1.95v input voltage. Pretty good and stable for the last 2 years.

I have been waiting for this video! This is the CPU comparison to make and it seems like the 10th generation core I three has basically made used quad I sevens almost redundant. The massively over inflated prices they seem to get are just nowhere near justified now.

the i7-4790k is a refresh of the the same chip in the i7-4770k that truly made people totally forget AMD FX even 9000s with i7-4790k. so cool it still runs great!

I've got an i7-4770k @ 4.4 Ghz with DDR3 2400 memory. I'm doing fine all these years later.

@jaggsta

4 жыл бұрын

not time to upgrade till DDR5 release in 2022

i still run a 4790k in my micro atx system under the tv. its paired with a 1650 and I am happy with it.

Your videos are always fun to watch. I'm gonna test out the used market in my city at some point and see if I can't flip something.

Yeh, 4690k 4.6GHz with 2x8 2133MHz. Got it when Zen (1) released. Upgraded GTX950 to GTX1660Super. Runs pretty well for me needs, just want to skip DDR4 :).

A part of what we're seeing with those old quad- and hexacore CPUs is what happened in the game development. 6 years ago not so many games could utilize all those threads while nowadays we can sometimes see performance bumps when jumping from 6 to 8 cores. If you bought a (for that time) high core count CPU that could get overclocked and had a decend IPC (aka older Intel CPUs with K-suffix) you made a great deal. Love that old vs new comparisons and love to tinker with older hardware myself so your channel is just heaven.

For those of us with old 4790 talk about the process of de-liding please. That would be worth a video. Please also do a video about all the video cards and the process of cleaning the cooler or replacing it. Please recommend what tools to get in the US on Amazon.

@Shoddragon

4 жыл бұрын

it's not worth it currently in all honesty. You can often get to 4.8ghz with a beefy cooler and delidding but the money that goes into that will only marginally improve performance beyond the standard 4.6ghz overclock. It would actually be more worth saving up a getting a 3700x or a 4700x when it comes out so you get superior IPC AND double the physical cores.

Can confirm. I bought my 4790K back in 2015 with 16GB of 2400Mhz DDR3 RAM. I recently upgraded my r9 390 for a 5700XT and I'm able to push 80+ FPS in recent AAA game at 1440p all maxed settings. I have no idea when I'm going to upgrade my platform (CPU/Board/RAM). I WOULD love to, because I like to get new stuff and it's been just over 5 years now. But there's no point since nothing is really that much better anyway. I can run a 4.6Ghz OC 24/7 with no issues.

I've had a 4790k and a 980Ti for the past several years. Currently running a G-Sync 1440p display, even on current games I'm still seeing 60+ FPS on Very High/Ultra settings. If I drop the settings down to merely High, I can still hit 100+ fps easy. Considering I haven't upgraded my PC in five or so years now and it can still keep up with modern games, pretty good investment back in the day, I'd say.

Some caveats for the 4790K; if you want to run an m.2 SSD on this, you can only use it as a data-drive, because even with a PCI-E-card, you're not able to boot from it (everything else works though). Another thing is the problem between clock-speeds, timings and memory capacity- the faster your RAM, the LESS the 4790K/board can address. I wanted to run my 4790K with 32GB of fast memory and ran into strange issues that looked like memory corruption. After research I found out, that I could run 32GB OR a faster clock/timing. I went back to 16GB of fast memory and this works very well, even today. Just keep this in mind before you invest in a huge upgrade and getting stuck with RAM you cannot use.

Still rocking mine with a 1660 super and I have zero complaints.

great video brian. what a chip the 4790k was/is.

I have a cheap Thermaltake silent 14 and still manage 4.6Ghz(1.27v), bad silicon lottery on the video mine sure can do 4.8/4.9Ghz at better conditions... I got all second hand, still can't manage to get good 2400/2133 CL10/CL9 memory, prices are just crazy. Love the video showing the improve in performance I definitely need to save money for good ram kits.

I didn't have to delid my 4790k. It runs @4.7 Ghz and only one core goes above 70c under a heavy load. It was paired with a Corsair H110, until I moved that over to my 9900K. It's now paired with a LEPA 240mm AIO and still doing fine.

Older GPUs always do well until the drivers nerf em.Built-in obsolescence,via software driver..Less so with CPU’s-exception being the multitude of security mitigation’s intel chips require.

I own an i7-4790K clocked at 4.7GHz along with Corsair Dominator Platinums CL9 1866Mhz and let me tell you. It rocks like new

Bryan, can you do a comparison of the i3-10100 and the i5-10400 with the stock and the Snowman CPU cooler? I mean which config can help these processors achieve turbo boost without breaking a sweat?

What about the x99 5930k's? At 4.5ghz it should give all of these a run for their money still

I wasn't planning on upgrading my 4790k/Z97 mobo just yet, looks like I'll get another year or two out of it. Late 2014 was a fantastic time to buy a new PC, the AUD was high against the USD and processor technology wouldn't advance majorly for many years to come.

people often forget or, actually do not know, they do not need to replace a PC every 6 months

@kruxdt6307

4 жыл бұрын

But I get less than 144fps in muh gaymes

I sold my 4770, motherboard and ram for more than a used Ryzen 1600X, brand new motherboard and ram. Probably a sidestep in performance, newer titles run much smoother (higher lows) but the main purpose - its 5 years newer and i can drop in a cheap used 8 12 or 16 core 3xxx or 4xxx series in the future. Also did this with my 7700 - up to a 3600, again sidestep, made $$$ doing it, far better than being stuck with 4 cores max on a dead end socket.