Your reviews are a marked cut above, should have millions of views as the information you provide is stellar.

Fun fact: The new wrx is not faster that the gr86/brz from a roll. It’s actually not far off the previous gen sti which is pretty crazy when you think about it… it is a balanced and very rewarding naturally aspirated engine.

What a beautiful looking car, this dark grey really brings out its features.

You really do great reviews I love all the technical details when you get into the weeds that is stuff that most other reviewers do not do keep up the good work and keep at it. Subscribed

Loved the video man! I live in Indianapolis and am stoked to find a great reviewer so close to me! Kinda cool. I'm very interested in this car and appreciate your review on it!

My 2022 86 Neptune blue was totaled in May. Lady ran a stop sign at about 40 and clipped my driver side. Just got done ordering my 2023 86 Turino blue AT. Arrives soon

Great vid!

SOOO EXCITED!!! Just purchased a 2023 86 Premium Toyota Red manual!!! Comes in next week!!! Manuals are sold before they even show up at the dealer but not today!!!! I FINALLY got one!!!😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️. Wish you could add pics on here. Mad I didn’t get to test drive it but OMG can’t wait to see it! Not even 3 miles on it (they said). Traded in my 2015 Blue FR-S…hate to see her go but love to see her replaced!! 😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️🙋🏾‍♀️🙋🏾‍♀️🙋🏾‍♀️

@davidr6865

Жыл бұрын

Did you get it for msrp or below?

@richieroo4844

Жыл бұрын

what a wicked beast that will be, wow, exiting times for sure

@sqouki

Жыл бұрын

So excited for you! Such a fun car!

@Vasquez19781

Жыл бұрын

@@davidr6865 MSRP, thank goodness. The guy who sold me my FR-S sold me the GR86 also, so hooked me up

@zinidinerahman4168

Жыл бұрын

How’s the car? I think I might actually consider this car in the future it looks fantastic

Got a brz because all the Toyota dealers wanted insane markups (some up to $10k) above msrp whereas Subaru didn’t have any markup. Both great cars and fun to drive - definitely have to go with a MT - automatic is sacrileg

@MrBrigthside1999

Жыл бұрын

wow! where? around where I live they are below 35-36

@jakkals2039

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBrigthside1999 north jersey. Bought in November last year. My brz was 30k final price while 86s were listed at either 35 or 40k

@ondy8706

10 ай бұрын

That’s wild I Just bought one (86) it gets here in 3 weeks I paid 32.5. Premium MT

@SirBitingBen

8 ай бұрын

I’m buying one rn, and luckily the markup is only about $800 just gotta wait for it to ship in

I'm getting 30 mpg in my manual gr86.

@Dragon228833

Жыл бұрын

I’m getting 20 in mine

@thisisntsergio1352

Жыл бұрын

@@Dragon228833 that's on you

@valakarhtelgrem5210

Жыл бұрын

@@thisisntsergio1352 xd

@HowellDiesel

Жыл бұрын

@@Dragon228833man uses 1st and 2nd gear that's it 🤣

@Dragon228833

Жыл бұрын

@@HowellDiesel literally. I live in nyc

You have a great build man! Looking good

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

thanks dog

@dirkvantroyen9170

Жыл бұрын

Don't skip leg day tho ;-)

@fuhcoff86

Жыл бұрын

Nahhh he could get it ANY DAY… don’t shame the man

I have a 1st gen .BRZ and I never heard of the fuel pumps failing.

Have to admit, until I watched this video this Pavement color wasn't even on my radar. I'm on a list for a Premium with the manual. I told them I'd take Neptune Blue, Trueno Blue, or the stupidly named Track bRed (orange-ish red). I love the silver on the BRZ, but not so much on the GR86 with its black wheels and mirrors. Now, though, hmmm, seeing this car in the Pavement color in a video and not just in Toyota's awful animated pictures, I may have to add this to my list of acceptable options. It really looks great here.

I’m getting 46 MPG IN MY MAZDA MX5 ND2 ❤ , no engine problems ❤️

Beautiful car

People that don't know how to use roundabouts.... that's a good one. Always looking to add variety to my usual BMW driver bashing.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

It was between that and people that use hazard lights as a park anywhere priveledge

Check reviews about oil starvation problems with the gr86. Some type of silicone in the oil due heat. The subaru boxer engine needs a recall!

@Realistick

11 ай бұрын

It’s actually related to oil sloshing! Some guys placed sensors on a few to confirm the cause of starvation. The rtv has nothing to do with it.

Got 28.8 MPG in my first month with this car. Definitely better than my Jeep Cherokee with 19 MPG. Don't know how it consumes more than a Tundra.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

That's great for you, the conservative ratings AND premium fuel say otherwise for the mt. Rewatch from 8:35 and it should be clear what I am saying. (Fuel cost and consumption are different).

@louisforlibertarian

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick LOL I was just bragging lol. I know individual observations could not overthrow the general population. Like your content btw!

@xItsmeFirex

Жыл бұрын

Were you able to purchase this car at msrp or did you have to pay over msrp?

@louisforlibertarian

Жыл бұрын

@@xItsmeFirex I did msrp, but spent a month ahead negotiating.

@justin-xh3fk

Жыл бұрын

28.8 mpg is crazy idk how im getting 17 mpg bro ive been driving slower than a grandma

great review! any real differences from 2022?

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, outside of that special edition, it's the same!

A guy at the Toyota dealership, whom I told I wanted a manual, told me that they had a 10th anniversary. I asked if it was a manual and he said, "No..." Sales people: What can I do to put you in this car you didn't ask for?

I get 27+ mpg around town and 32mpg on the highway in my manual 86.

I purchased the same build in manual. Currently in transit. Should have it in about 3 weeks

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Congrats!

@zamomix

Жыл бұрын

Are they going for MSRP or still marked up?

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

@@zamomix this one was like 3k over, some dealers refuse to go over msrp so it's a bit of a calling game with your regional dealers. The GR86's rarity just makes that even more tricky.

@jonny530

Жыл бұрын

@@zamomix most have a markup. I found 1 dealership about 6hrs from me that’s selling at MSRP. But they have about a year long waiting list. Ultimately I went with the lowest markup I could find. $1,500. I spoke to roughly 40 dealerships and most were in the $3-5k markup range. I don’t like paying over MSRP, but I wanted to take advantage of my trade in being work $6k more than it was a year ago. So I’m still coming out ahead

@phantom7767

Жыл бұрын

@@zamomix went In to a Chicago location last week and gr86 had a 10k markup and supra had a 15k markup

Should make it a two-seater sport car

Hi Tyler...thanks for the video. How ido you think the GR86 is for taller drivers?

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Good, although you do have to crawl into it. I went a little more in-depth in my full review on that!

I ordered gr86 last april and I still dont have a delivery date🤣 Apparently the dealer around me is only getting 2 cars for all of 2023 so imma be waiting a while. Im so excited though, right now I drive a car with coilovers and a muffler delete so the gr86 is gonna feel like an s class to me

@mortem4342

9 ай бұрын

Gotten it yet?

@bigmike4923

9 ай бұрын

@@mortem4342 I actually just got my deposit back lol, they still had no information about it last month so I just got my money back🤣

Based on the number of blown up engine before 90k miles on the used car market, i tend to think they arent that reliable engine when reved up a bit, changes made over the years that would eliminate my concerns anyone?

The turbo Corolla version is coming.

Someone said the sound system was terrible can you confirm

Tires make noise, even on the 18inch?

Ill buy one once they confirm they’ve fixed the rtv challenge

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

It might be a long wait since rtv could be found in the old engine too. It causing a serious issue is just rare so I don't see them making a big public fix. Hopefully they just quietly ease up on it in the factory.

@Julianklaus

Жыл бұрын

Hold your breath, it’s coming soon 😂😂

Really like this car except for one thing. The cabin noise at highway speed is awful! :(

@MrBrigthside1999

Жыл бұрын

apparently there's a way to turn off the sound

"Drive this car like it insulted your mom" - well, sounds like there's plenty of Mustangs and Chargers that insulted their owner's moms, based on the way they drive.

@zzanatos2001

Жыл бұрын

Mustang driver's manual: Step 1. On the first drive, stomp the accelerator until the engine spins up well past redline. Step 2. When you are in the middle of a sharp turn, downshift and go wide open throttle. (The rear end of the car will slide, but don't worry. This is normal.) Step 3. As the car jumps the curb and breaks the tie-rod ends, stay on the gas. DO NOT let off the throttle or apply the brakes. Step 4. Plow into a crowd of people, a parked McLaren 720, or a tree (whichever is closest) at top speed. Step 5. Acquire another new Mustang and repeat.

@deanal-jackson4593

Жыл бұрын

​@@zzanatos2001I'm deceased

I want one but can't find one anywhere - unless I want to pay MSRP + $10K (which I don't).

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

It's hard out here for enthusiast cars, I'm running into a similar issue myself right now.

Royal South Toyota may be good to deal with but not their prices, $2500 over MSRP.

I got the orange Special Edition on order. No delivery date available. Still on the FR-S

@randomuserame

Жыл бұрын

Are they available for order? I'm just looking into it but I can't order/build them on the website

@DeekBoy333

Жыл бұрын

@@randomuserame i doubt it. You typically arent able to order from toyota and you have to wait for allocations. Unless he works for Toyota or something

@Vasquez19781

Жыл бұрын

@@DeekBoy333 thought the same thing

@crhuynh8

Жыл бұрын

Price for se edition?

Trying to see if I will fit. Any chance you can share your height and inseam?

@Argentinagang2022

Жыл бұрын

He is 6'3" for anyone watching.

✨solar shift✨ orange

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

A beaut, it gives me slight Creamsicle vibes

Three big issues with this car: 1) Excessive road noise and rain impact noise, caused by thin sheetmetal and limited sound damping materials, 2) short 6th gear forcing you to hit 4K when you're only doing like 85mph (there is no need for such a short 6th gear when most people are going to downshift to pass anyway), and 3) a grungy sounding motor, especially on cold startup. It's a fantastic car if you have twisty roads on your commute, but not an only car by any means, unless you're still in your 20s and can tolerate it.

which one would you buy if you were give a choice. A Mini Cooper JCW Automatic or Toyota Gr86 Automatic???

@swiftrevenge1878

Жыл бұрын

The 6 speed manual 86

Downfall is the turn signal stalk...I can get decent mileage on the highway at 65MPG....but it burns a lot of pricey gas around town.

@professorfarnsworth6189

Жыл бұрын

thats one of the crazy parts, low power and light weight and it gets below subpar mpg.

@kuladeeluxe

Жыл бұрын

@@professorfarnsworth6189 Don't forget excellent Aero.

@Ill06Taco

Жыл бұрын

I believe they changed the turn signals for the 2023 model year

I’m pretty intimidated by the idea of learning manual as I’ve spent six years cozy with an automatic .. I want the GR86 for my next car undoubtedly, but I’d hate to hurt the car learning on it or come to regret the simplicity of an automatic as I spend more time city than highway driving. Any words of advice in either direction would be greatly appreciated. Some fear of missing out on the intuitive experience of learning and mastering manual but the simplicity of automatic is something I can’t quite ignore.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Id go for it, what matters the most is that you continually try to learn from any mistakes. Learn the basics and hill starts (this does not take long) and then move to things like heel toe down shifts, launching and fast shifting later. Clutches are typically pretty durable if they avoid excessive heat from bad takeoffs

@mallninja12

Жыл бұрын

My first time driving a manual was a test drive for my 2012 WRX Wagon; I didn't stall it once. I lived in a hilly area too. Some cars are definitely easier than others (i.e VW) but Subaru/Toyota are great. You can do it!

@hoodieboy1515

Жыл бұрын

JTorq Im EXACTLY EXACTLY where youre at!!! I’m comfy with an auto. That’s why I’ve been thinking about getting a Veloster N DSG for the paddle shifters & the FUN in driving a car or a Golf GTI DSG! But, might as well get a Civic si or gr86 manual for overall fun, speed, reliability

@mallninja12

Жыл бұрын

@@hoodieboy1515 I was planning on trading in my outback for a wilderness XT. but since they got recalled and i put a deposit on sept 1st, I got impatient and bought a project 2013 WRX wagon. It has spun rods but I'm going to drop in an EJ20Y and corn feed it. it has zero frills and wakes up my neighbors,. it puts a smile on my face every second i drive it,

@uncleiroh8665

Жыл бұрын

I just put a lottery in my area for the GR 86 Special Edition and there was a 1:4 ratio for auto:manual and I still chose auto even though I’m a good manual driver. You will love this car, this will be your baby. Id hate to hurt the transmission, burn the clutch etc. Modern sports car are auto anyway. Will manual be more fun? Maybe, but maybe only in the beginning. Stop n go traffic, uphills, and extra maintenance. Thats my take.

I would buy it if it comes with a turbo and if it comes with a wide body kits i buy it even more but I would be satisfied with the turbo

@nvrlow

Жыл бұрын

so buy a 2.0 supra

This car should have the 1.6L i3 from the gr corolla making it super appealing

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

There's talks of that going around, we shall see, I think it could make for a cool, high performance spec

A TT tundra gets about 17 idk how this little car could do worse unless you fall asleep with your foot on the gas

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

*19** And it's because the Tundra takes regular and this takes Premium, which is why I said running cost.

The turbo “issue” really isn’t that big of a deal when the 2.0T Supra exists, it’s very similar to the 86 and for Toyota, it functions as the accessible sports car with a turbo. I would imagine a turbo 86 would be very similar in cost to the 2.0 Supra.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

That's a very valid mention! Although a lot of toyobros won't entertain that because of bmw.

@jakem.8608

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick which always cracks me up bc Gazoo Racing took the BMW engine and made huge improvements

@ericscottstevens

Жыл бұрын

A garage upped the GR86 to 240 hp boring out the engine block and other third party upgrades. Toyota knows enthusiasts will add their own extras, and other people will be happy not needing the upgrades.

How is the road noise I’m thinking of getting one

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Loud, but what you would expect from this sort of car.

engine has to be pulled to change spark plugs ugh

I really want one but the silicone problem is absolutely unacceptable

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

A valid concern but it's honestly not all that new or dangerous of an issue. I haven't heard about any more than one failure from it.

@digby_dooright

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick I just realized you have a lot of muscles. 😮🤪

I don’t drive my car hard at all. Idk how tf y’all getting over 28mpg. My commute is 95% freeway.

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

Coasting, being light on the throttle, downshifting for hill, etc

I’m getting 15 MPG…

What car is that 1:03? It has a subie badge but it looks like a toyota....

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

New WRX!

And how long ago was this RTV issue on this motor ??? And how or why don't we know if its been fixed ??

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Subaru has been sealing engines with rtv for awhile, I believe the entire duration of the previous gen. To my knowledge, it has only caused one failure. A lot of the excessive rtv has to break off before it can cause starvation and kill the engine.

@ACommenterOnYouTube

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick so as you said a few people on the internet heard about this and blew it out of proportion ??

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

@@ACommenterOnKZread More or less, but they blew it up for good reason since Toyota was not going to fix the failure it caused. If you're interested in more info, I linked a video in the description that goes more in depth and comes from an owner who found RTV in his.

Its a shame the rtv ruined the car, waiting for revised version. I like my oil pickup clean.

@thenman23

Жыл бұрын

just get it with warranty and only let the dealer change the oil

@jasonm.1370

Жыл бұрын

@@thenman23 with the videos I’ve watched of the spaghetti they pull from oil pickup and rtv found in oil filters you think Toyota will replace every damaged engine lmao. Catastrophic damage due to oil starvation on a new vehicle and your solution is get the warranty. Cool

@thenman23

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonm.1370 well i don't run toyota so

With back seats like that, they could've just made the car a 2-seater

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

For real, there's probably some sort of marketing or regulation reason that made a 4 seater more ideal.

@TheHubisOfMan

Жыл бұрын

I WAS seriously considering the new Miata, but found out you can't fit a golf bag in that trunk. So, started leaning toward the GR86. Except, I've recently decided to up the budget and am now researching late-C6 and early-C7 Corvettes. I'm such a fickle, typical man consumer! 😝

@Wafflz21

Жыл бұрын

Also helps reduce insurance cost beleive it or not

Really want to buy one but no way after seeing all of these horror videos of RTV backup Toyota is going to have a huge recall on their hands very soon I’m not dealing with that headache.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Go for it, I just went to a track day with 9 GR86 owners and nobody has actually had that cause a problem.

Is it only premium gas?

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm sure it has knock sensors so it won't destroy the engine if regular is used but it is not rated for lower octane.

Having a hard time choosing between the Elantra N, GR86, and the BRZ. I feel like the EN would be better as an overall day to day car and coming from the 1st generation Genesis coupe platform I love coupes and can make due with the 2nd row not really being usable. It's a good problem to have when all 3 are worthy of purchasing

@natty1

Жыл бұрын

I would personally choose the elantra n. It has the most features, best sound system, and it's the fastest. To each their own, I was super close to getting one myself if the mark-up wasn't so high right now.

@michaelspinelli5261

Жыл бұрын

I actually was thinking about purchasing the same exact cars. I decided on the brz since it was the best deal (brz's are genrally more availble and cheaper than the 86). After owning the brz for a few months I absolutly love the car and do not regret it one bit. However, if you live in an area with a lot of snow then fwd may be better.

@Jez4prez1

Жыл бұрын

just buy cheap camry for your daily then get brz/86 for fun car.

@MrBrigthside1999

Жыл бұрын

@@natty1 you'd still be driving a hyundai

too bad that it has an crazy markup.... wont be able to afford it because of that.... 2023 brz is between 40k-48k eur (which is 43k-52k usd) 2023 gr86 from 40k to 72k (43k-78k usd) also, the 2023 supra (3L, not the 2L one) is 63k-80k eur (68k-87k usd)

And the RTV issue?

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video?

Did they fix the RTV silicone and oil pickup issues?

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

4:30

@bluelacyseo8964

Жыл бұрын

For the 2023 models IDK, I have a 2022 base manual that I picked in in April for MSRP. No official word from Toyota or Subaru on the RTV issue.

6'3 ?! jesus

The first generation is a lower center gravity and the steering feed back is a tad better than second generation. I would pick the first generation to save money. It’s zeros to sixty is point tenths of a second fastest. First generation mpg gets 31 mpg and the new gets 26mpg. Taking both generation to the tracks to the finish line quicker, there is not much difference in time attack, but the only price difference of $15k markup price. The handling is at the same level but first gen is a tad better.

@zzanatos2001

Жыл бұрын

The first generation (Scion) has a serious torque dip and you have to rev the Hell out of it to build power. (Max torque at 6,400+ rpm.) The new one has 28 extra horsepower and a flatter torque curve. (Max torque at 3500 rpm.)

Subaru has a long history of engine problems. They are finding significant bearing wear from oil starvation due to rtv getting in the pickup. The silicone is mainly coming from the timing cover and oil pan. My local Subaru dealer refuses to acknowledge the problem. However, our local shops that I supply parts to are seeing rtv in the pickup tubes and metal flakes from bearing wear in the oil pans. I'm sure there is a class action lawsuit being prepared and hopefully a mandatory government recall issue. Toyota should know better. However, their two sports cars are not made by them and unless they installed a real Toyota engine in the GR 86, I would stay away from the little car.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Subaru's history is a complicated story, as I explained here, I could only find one report if it starving enough oil to cause failure. I'm happy to check out another source if you have it! Until I see that, I stand by that this issue is being blown out of proportion.

@justinh2444

Жыл бұрын

Blow it up so demand drops for it, I need one

@yannmarkovich7399

Жыл бұрын

You are right about long history of engine problems, but it also has long history of making fun cars. Some people would rather tolerate risk of engine failure than drive dead boring car.

@EnhancedTrashBin

Жыл бұрын

@@username8644 Which I find it very strange that if subaru engines really are a problem that surely people would stop buying their cars and disappear like Mitsubishi but yet I have a brother that owns a WRX (I believe it was a 2015 or whatever year that gen after it) that works on his car while having a friend that just bought a new 2022 WRX. So far I have yet to hear them complain about owning it other than hard to work on lmao.

@AK-gb9rp

Жыл бұрын

@@justinh2444 this guy knows

I wouldn't touch this car until the RTV Engine Sealant issue is resolved by Subaru & Toyota. This is a serious issue that will literally destroy the engine when you push the car hard, and it was designed to be driven hard! There is even talk of a possible recall as well. If you expect to track the car, do not buy it. Unfortunate, as it is an otherwise exciting car.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

The previous car had a similar issue and I don’t remember people freaking out about it and the engine was still quite robust. Send a link if you have info that shows it causing more than one engine failure and ill check it out.

@southnc63

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick If I put a link in the comment, it will be deleted. This all over the net and there are plenty of KZread Videos on it. It is serious. Any honest reviewer would always disclose a potential catastrophic issue, no matter how much they may like the product.

@Joshold

Жыл бұрын

That's why it cones with a warranty

@Julianklaus

Жыл бұрын

@@southnc63 nonsense. This issue has been blown out of proportion.

Boxer engine =Reliability...up to 100,000. Lol

Well they already have your "version" with turbo. It's the Supra. While it's true that it is a different car, what most people don't realize is that this car would change if they added turbo - center of gravity would go up - so handling changes, reliability with turbo goes down and so on

Mitch-elin 🤔

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

No mitches?

Still more powerful than a 2001 V6 FORD MUSTANG

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

And a 1998 mustang gt! But much less torquey.

Can you start the car with the key before entering or no

@Jesterrr21

Жыл бұрын

Only with automatic transmissions.

Automatic for me

i wish i livecd somewhere else, cuz here it cost over 50k

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

California?

@elstuka7212

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick no, worst portugal there no worse place, that I know, for a car guy to live in

@gs98999

Жыл бұрын

I got limited brz for $27k usd after conversion. These are cheap as hell here. (Canada)

The problem with underpowered cars is odometer miles don’t explain how many spins the engine needs to make power. Multiply the odometer, and thus the price, by 2-4x.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

I can't tell if this is a joke or not😂

@FFE-js2zp

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick You have to be pretty clueless not to understand the HP equation. More RPM = higher cruise RPM = more rotations per mile = crap engine life.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

@@FFE-js2zpOH, I definitely understood what you were saying. I didn't mean to offend you, I was honestly thinking it might be a troll joke since you were commenting that on a Toyota video, a brand known to use numerous, very reliable 4 cylinder engines (with high powerbands) over the years. Your logic is way oversimplified.There are just way too many contradictions to that rule for it to be remotely valid. It would be like thinking a v8 will be unreliable because of the increased rotating mass and friction from having more cylinders. Theoretically, that would make sense, but in practice, completely untrue.

@FFE-js2zp

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick I learned the hard way with an 7500RPM 1985 MR2. It’s minuscule 1.6L developed 93 ft-lbs of torque and driving on the hwy required 4500-7500 RPM. It died completely with oil leaks everywhere and zero compression in all four cylinders at 83K miles. I was young and stupid and only changed the oil every 3K miles. It didn’t dawn on me until it was dead that 6K RPM is 4x spins per mile, so the oil needed to be changed ever two tanks of gas. It was a disastrously horrible engine. Any small displacement engine has the same problem. Never ever buy less than a V8.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

@@FFE-js2zp this takes the cake for most elaborate troll joke on a Toyota video, you almost got me😂

You look like a giant compared to the GR86. Or is the car super small?

@kazvsty

Жыл бұрын

well he's 6'3, prob makes any car look small

the 2022 had a turbo...

@kazvsty

Жыл бұрын

no it didn't lmao. the car community has been begging for a turbo in an 86 for years but toyota has been refusing to make a turbo version thus far.

Who buys a sports car and worrys about the fuel mileage!

Only reason you need not to buy this car: Underperform...don’t know why Toyota hasn’t slapped a 300hp engine in it...they could use the Lexus IS engine if they wanted to, the TDR in the Camry

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Weight, center of gravity, cost, simplicity.

@Atlas-wh2vg

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick you got me there, I’m a simpleton haha. Not taking back what I said, but I do like this car...I just wished it had more power. Well, to those who care about MPG and wanna look “fast” this is one of the most beautiful looking cars out there

@Atlas-wh2vg

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistick just found your channel, did some lurking...you gatta review a Lexus IS350..amazing car stability, torque, stylish..find out for yourself. Would love to see that video/ any video you upload

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

@@Atlas-wh2vg I'll try to get ahold of one when I can!

@realnapster1522

Жыл бұрын

They should have used a Toyota developed engine instead of going with boxer. It sounds horrible.

I’ve have not seen one of these new 86s breaking into the 6 second range when trying to hit 60. This car is still slow as hell. But it is just fast enough to have fun and not get dusted by a mini van at a stop light. Still a great car but I won’t be buying one this time around. Toyota should just delete these back seats and make it a hatch back coupe.

@ACommenterOnYouTube

Жыл бұрын

I agree, they look good but its NA and its slow. My slowest car is my genesis coupe at ~325 crank hp.

@bearclaw5115

Жыл бұрын

Car and Driver tested the manual to 5.4 secs, even adding back their rollout, it is 5.7 to 60.

@postalpancho

Жыл бұрын

@@bearclaw5115 with a professional driver, ideal conditions and a perfect launch. Lol so them are number you won’t get in the real world. I love how BMW is the only manufacturer with the balls to under rate their vehicles and they are usually up to a half seconds faster and their crank hp is usually their whp. Wish more companies would be like BMW.

@bettisrocksr

Жыл бұрын

The rear seats are for cheaper insurance ;)

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

@@postalpancho Kia Stinger's official 0-60 is underrated too. It's a claimed 4.7 seconds, but literally everyone is able to get a 4.4 on a flat road with LC

Gas Mileage is horrible.

Did you say “Mitch-elin” tires? I had to stop it there.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Adios

Predicted reliability? I can answer that for easily. It’s going to develop a substantial oil leak around 80k miles like all POS Subaru’s with engines mounted incorrectly by 90 degrees. You’ll have difficulty finding a mechanic that will want to work on it and when you do it will be costly. Enjoy.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

That's a wild dramatization but yeah, some seepage happens and the design is more susceptible to HG failure but with the later designs, that's more of a 200k concern and the previous car was respectable.

My 2023 GR86 that has only 4971 miles did not even made the first service was already broken! Engine blew up and Toyota is denying warranty… Shop quoted me for a new engine for over $31Gs!. I wouldn’t buy this car again unless it’s a real Toyota engine.

@kevinnorris6558

3 ай бұрын

Surely you must have been driving the car quite hard before this happened

and the #1 reason not to buy...Right turns lol

Swan song to the combustion engine. Seriously dude, WTF are you smoking!

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Do you live in a cave?

@Bubbleshandle

Жыл бұрын

@@Realistickno, but surrounded by people like you who can’t read or apply critical thinking.

1 reason not to: Dealers are asking for 8k above msrp. 😩

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

Not all dealers are. Go to one without a mark up

Its only 1.5 seconds fastest on the track compared to first generation.

@EarthWasHere

10 ай бұрын

1 second is a big difference, thats a decent gap when racing.

It’s not a real Toyota. If you want a Toyota go with the GR Corolla.

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

GR Corolla costs more and I wouldn't trust its reliability.

@Julianklaus

Жыл бұрын

3 cyl Turbo 😂😂😂. That engine is going to run HARD!!

you are too tall guy, it is not for you

This entire video covered nothing new from any others that came months ago.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

0:20 🤔

NO! DO NOT BUY NEW CARS, BUYING THESE 30K CARS FOR 40-50K CARS BEING MARKED UP 15-30K IS MAKING THE MARKET WORSE, DO NOT BUY NEW CARS, THEY WILL NEVER STOP BEING MARKED UP SO HIGH BASE MODLE CIVICS DO NOT NEED TO BE 30K+, I REPEAT, PLEASE BUY USED CARS, DO NOT BUY NEW ONES, ONLY THE CONSUMER CAN CHANGE THE MARKET FLOW

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Sheesh, just travel to a place that has no or little markup.

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

Protip: Writing in all caps instantly discredits your opinion/statement.

@realnapster1522

Жыл бұрын

Even Used cars are being sold for higher prices than new. We should boycott dealers.

Don’t pay mark up for this especially the automatic This car supper overhyped

No foes? Mazda Miata? VW Golf? Hello?

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

VW Golf isn't a competitor.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Golf is entirely different and the Miata is a smaller convertible with far less cargo capacity and interior space (much harder to daily). Those aren't what I would call "direct competitors," just something that it could be cross shopped with. The same way a Chevy Suburban could be cross shopped with a Honda odyssey.

228 hp on premium gas, Ya it's a C tier car.

@Jesterrr21

Жыл бұрын

Well you don't buy this car for its straight line speed. You buy this car for it's driving experience. This car destroys chargers and Mustangs in the twisty canyon roads.

@thefoodcan

Жыл бұрын

@@Jesterrr21 ya you right

Do not buy one horrible motor and silicone problems to many ppl are having

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Watch the video, I address that.

Don’t forget to pick up your box mod vape or else you shouldn’t drive this car.

Reliability? I can help with that. It’s gonna develop a moderate oil leak by the time it hits 80k miles just like every other piece of shit boxer Subaru engine.

@TheRealCatof

Жыл бұрын

Ehhh, 80k miles isn't terrible. It's better than Fiat-Crystler engines that fall apart or explode before 50k.

obviously that car was not design for a person with your size and car knowledge.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, obviously 😤

You won't get one for 6-9months due to lack of toyota production so not worth even considering tbh

Don’t buy it. People owning the gr86/brz are having issues with silicone getting into the oil pan. Look it up.

@Realistick

Жыл бұрын

No need to look it up if you actually watched the video.