Stupid people who blame the construction of the bridge don't understand the sheer power of this vessel

@rational-public-discourse

2 ай бұрын

We can't rule out our own government disabling the steering mechanism so that it would crash into the bridge and so that our news media can have something to talk about instead of the fact that our foreign policy needs to be changed. The CIA will go to any lengths to protect the arms industry.

@Traysilenee

2 ай бұрын

I am a engineering teacher and far from stupid. This bridge had not had any infrastructure check for over 2 years. The vessel was able to hit a stress point that was labeled "fair" condition. Bridges are made to handle 5. earthquakes, this bridge was not up to code. Period. and stop calling people stupid. Its not nice or accurate in this case.

@ashleypg1708

2 ай бұрын

​@@Traysilenee thank you!

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

@@Traysilenee as you know bridges aren't built to withstand lateral blows...they support vertically...no bridge of that span could survive a massive lateral blow

@misterfunnybones

2 ай бұрын

@@Traysileneeyeah, but you teach electrical engineering...not structural engineering.

Sometimes it doesn't matter how safe and sturdy you build something. The physics of a 200 million pound ship hitting a stationary object like a bridge means something is going to break in a catastrophic way.

@ethan8583

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for your input.

@Traysilenee

2 ай бұрын

Engineers take the weight of ships into consideration when building. This particular bridge had a "fair" rating. This bridge was not up to code and this could have been prevented. I am a engineering teacher, this is a Arch style bridge with anchor points that if up to code would have crumbled the ship and not collapsed the anchor. I doubt they admit that, since that would have them looking closely at the monies set aside to check infrastructure yearly.

@marthalisk303

2 ай бұрын

@@Traysilenee The US has been behind in way of funding for needed infrastructure inspections/evaluations and repairs. Then 4 yrs were totally wasted by an imaginary (DJT) infrastructure bill 'coming our way' next week🙄Then constant political bickering ensued until Pres. Biden was able to finally get a bill thru to begin tackling issues. I don't think any bridge could withstand the blow this one took. Those cargo ships esp. when full load are monstrous.

@jessicap5513

2 ай бұрын

@@Traysilenee This was not an arch bridge but a continuous through truss bridge. All the articles that talk about the code, say this bridge was indeed up to code. Looking at other articles of 'could this happen in XYZ city?' it appears that similar bridges in high-traffic shipping lanes all have some sort of extended bumper or 'island' around the bases of the anchor points to help prevent collisions. However, 100,000+ tons of steel is going to cause damage, no matter how well a bridge is planned. Bridges just aren't made to be impacted by giant ships.

@Traysilenee

2 ай бұрын

@@jessicap5513 it’s a truss bridge with an arch style and the condition was listed as “fair” which is what they consider still up to code, I still believe this bridge had cracks in the stress points and that ship hit one straight on. Its done now so it’s easy for me to say what could have been different unfortunately it doesn’t matter anymore, and may the lives lost have a peaceful souls journey

This is very sad. My prayers go out to the family's of the workers. This is a terrible loss.😢

Hope ppl will be respectful with their comments & remember it's NOT our loss but the shocking loss for the victims Families ,Friends & their CoWorkers who have suffered beyond words. Why not leave kind messages for them.

@anthonyadeyemi6056

2 ай бұрын

Kind prayers.

@TheINFJChannel

2 ай бұрын

Love your style, honey. Thank you for existing ❤🤜🤛

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

People would rather point fingers

@kimbo8778

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely.

Bridges are built to support the weight above. Not on the side.

@Traysilenee

2 ай бұрын

not true, engineers take in consideration all sides when building. this is sheer neglect on the part of The Transportation Department. this bridge had a "fair" rating as of 2021- the last time it was checked.

@Lemthepoetofficial

2 ай бұрын

​@@Traysilenee Ship hit the column. Columns are not designed to distribute load. They only say that because it is the cheapest fix to blame government. It is about $$

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

You are correct .. bridges are not built to take a lateral blow of that force

I crossed the bridge in my Rig minutes before the impact of the ship crashing…feeling grateful and saddened at the same time…

@carstuff4u942

2 ай бұрын

You can see a semi Cross, I wonder if it was you

No bridge can handle that much force of a cargo ship

@retiredrudebwoy7500

2 ай бұрын

A ship doing 9 mph is barely moving and if it did "hit the beam" it would just come to a complete stop and not take down a whole 8 mile bridge. And what's the odds that it hit the main support beam?? Think for yourself people and stop listening to what they're telling you... Enough is Enough!!!

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

@@retiredrudebwoy7500 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@Imanilove2

2 ай бұрын

@@retiredrudebwoy7500I mean the ship has a gross weight Tonnage of 95,128 and a DEAD WEIGHT Tonnage of 116,851. People are thinking for themselves. Use the common sense God gave you, or were you missing the day he handed it out? Mr. Conspiracy Theorist.

@adamlyons5446

2 ай бұрын

@@retiredrudebwoy75009 MPH doesn't seem like much when you think of a human or a car's mass, but that ship probably weighs hundreds of thousands of tons. That kind of weight with ANY momentum is going to have a massive amount of force. Please think before you attack people online because of something that you do not understand.

@MyAcer20

2 ай бұрын

@@retiredrudebwoy7500 thats the most retarded thing ive seen someone comment this month

Prayers for those lost in this accident 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

It was beyond dangerous for men to be saved 24/7 in Pearl Harbor but almost 100yrs later it is now too dangerous? And as one who works in this field of construction that is a real eye opener as to how disposable we are.

May their souls rest in peace

Absolutely heartbreaking for the people of Baltimore.💔

One of the worker they found alive he passed away this morning

@newflower8974

2 ай бұрын

Omg🙏🏽🕊

@vinhtran1722

2 ай бұрын

😢

@antonioa6518

2 ай бұрын

😢

@Andreea06bhz

2 ай бұрын

Omg noooo 😭

@Traysilenee

2 ай бұрын

where did you see that at?

as someone not involved i can speculate from the video that it looked like 1. lost power, started to drift. 2. power comes back on and he throws it into full reverse (first belch black smoke), but theres no steering in reverse, so prow swings even more towards bridge, and of course he still has forward momentum. 3. Puts it into low ahead to try and correct prow direction, black smoke stops, but its too late and realising momentum already too great 4. slams into full reverse again, more huge belches of black smoke just before impact.

@Traysilenee

2 ай бұрын

The ship hit a poorly kept anchor point- this is the fault of infrastructure neglect.

440 million tons of weight, that bridge didn’t stand a chance

NO WAY !!! Why would he exaggerate the length of the cargo ship long as the bridge .. 🤯😭🤬

May the very hand of a mighty God bring comfort to the families and usher in those who who lost their lives

This is so sad. May the families get some closure

How come no one is talking about how many cars or trucks were on the bridge when it collapsed

@CosmicBeings

2 ай бұрын

That’s what I am wondering.

@superduperboyx

2 ай бұрын

They don't know yet. They did say the last car crossed at 1:28am.

@rational-public-discourse

2 ай бұрын

It was in the middle of the night, and apparently there were none. Work was being done on it. Six Mexican immigrants, who Trump calls very bad people, were fixing our pot holes.

@hittman9543

2 ай бұрын

Idiot​@@rational-public-discourse

@carcars3045

2 ай бұрын

only one car passed before it fall

All of them were migrants who wanted to work to support their families for a better life. Hope those families are getting all the support they need.

@wisdomseeker3362

2 ай бұрын

The ones not working are getting money. What's the difference? Free lodging and food.

@jds6964

2 ай бұрын

If it was not for migrant workers, work like that at night would not get done.

@user-nj1tu9sk2g

2 ай бұрын

but according to FAUX FOX, they were illegals so they OBVIOUSLY caused the crash (even though they werent ion the ship). SO SHAMELESS

@Trees301

2 ай бұрын

How do you know they were migrants ??

@FTBASTAR

2 ай бұрын

​@@wisdomseeker3362No u

Pillars should be redundant! That is, the bridge should be able to remain standing, and allow traffic already on it to complete the trip, if any pillar is completely undermined! Perhaps the bridge would need to be closed or have it's weight limit reduced afterwards, but if it had been standing, the damage would have been less, the casualties would have been less, and the reconstruction would have been much simpler and happened much faster!

Just like that. Gone. Prayers for family & friends. 🙏💛🖤♥️🤍💛🖤♥️🤍💛🖤♥️🤍💛🖤♥️🤍💛🖤♥️🤍💛🖤♥️🤍💛🖤♥️🤍💛🖤🙏

God bless the immigrant that work to help build our country and may they rest in peace.

@june2420111

2 ай бұрын

Amen. Mexican and Guatemalan migrants often do the hardest and most dangerous jobs in this country. Oftentimes these contractor companies don't give them any safety equipment. Wage theft is also pretty common. 😢

Was it the crew filling holes on the bridge who died, or was it the workers on the barge who died? So sad.

@patriciaoreilly8907

2 ай бұрын

Open your ears & listen 😊

@alan-jg5bd

2 ай бұрын

It's the construction crew, you can see their vehicles on the bridge with the flashing yellow lights. They were filling pot holes, never had a chance to flee.

@ShredderTainment

2 ай бұрын

@@patriciaoreilly8907 be nice

@ShredderTainment

2 ай бұрын

@@alan-jg5bd worst fears! So scary! I heard it more clearly in another article. Thanks for being sweet about your reply. Best wishes.

@V.E.R.O.

2 ай бұрын

​@@alan-jg5bdone ran away, must have felt the impact and the bridge shaking, one swam out and the others were inside their cars eating.

Why haven't the construction workers names been released and why aren't we discussing them more? They matter. And how's the captain holding up? I wish news stations strived to stand out by being different and bringing up things others aren't. Every station has the same story. ❤

@Traysilenee

2 ай бұрын

The families have a right to process and grieve before the public knows their names

@june2420111

2 ай бұрын

Because they're migrant workers, mostly Mexican and Guatemalan. I hope there's a gofund me for their families, I would donate because for sure that employer and the insurance company won't do anything for them. They probably didn't even give them the right safety equipment for day to day work, let alone falling into the water. Dangerous work, poor families 😢

Why weren’t the workers removed from the bridge? They called, saying they lost steering & to clear the bridge.

@user-nj1tu9sk2g

2 ай бұрын

The workers are construction workers repairing pot holes with an independent company, why would they be tuned in to the harbor police?

@Stevesanders247

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@user-nj1tu9sk2gyou goofy he didn’t say anything like that you ass hat

@juanita_piju

2 ай бұрын

I saw something that was like they didn’t have time to get to them. They first stopped traffic and once that was done they were going to alert the workers but they ran out of time :/ I also thought they should have been alerted first but I guess traffic took precedence and nobody had their # they didn’t have enough time to reach them 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Eli-ss9gj

2 ай бұрын

They stopped traffic maybe a minute before the bridge collapsed. There just wasn’t enough time

@Surge_LaChance

2 ай бұрын

The missing men are from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Mexico. Maybe they don't understand English.

"What do we know about the victims right now?" Answer: They have been in the freezing water for some time, and they are patiently waiting for rescue!

😢😢rest in peace God bless family members heartbreaking

So sad the harbor police didnt make it to warn the workers.

Praying for all the Victims Family & Friends. Just so shocking to see but how also devastating for their Loved ones. 😢💔💞🙏💌

....Where were the Tug Boats that usually Escort these big Tanker Containers❓❓

@liberatedwoman

2 ай бұрын

Yes, NTSB will comment on that.

@jugghead-1975

2 ай бұрын

That's a good question ⁉️

@wisdomseeker3362

2 ай бұрын

Very good question.

@carlabarrick8538

2 ай бұрын

Good question, indeed.

@elaineshaw7687

2 ай бұрын

There were - at that point they had already put the ship on track and retreated

😢😢😢

🙏🙏😭

😢

They're so lucky that didn't happen a peak traffic time this could have been thousands of dead people in cars with windows won't roll down

@Dontquoteme933

2 ай бұрын

Or, it was planned at a low casualty time

@niclikescakes

2 ай бұрын

Read your comment. Does that make any fucking sense?​@@Dontquoteme933

omg wow that is crazy

That look intentional

@waldolydecker8118

2 ай бұрын

yeah, they said the same thing about your mom's pregnancy

Were there any cars on the bridge?

@tigerwareagle1485

2 ай бұрын

Bridge police stopped all traffic from crossing bridge. Only vehicles on bridge at that point was construction vehicles

She asks if a fender would have helped. What an utterly stupid question

@jessicap5513

2 ай бұрын

It is a perfectly fair question. A bumper may have been able to divert or take a large part of the impact. Similar bridges around the world have large 'bumper' areas, such as islands of rock, that would help.

Was the captain of the collision vessel high?

I'm wondering if instead of allowing huge ships like this to maneuver under their own power if instead should be guided thru by tugs. The tugs release them once out to open water.

Bridges need to be built with floatation systems in there design especially ones this big i can only imagine how many people were lost to due to the wrekage sinking

We are all speculating on the whys and hows. From a engineering standpoint, this comes down to infrastructure neglect. May the souls that left their bodies find peace.

If the bridge was shut down before the collision.. why were they still on it?

@carstuff4u942

2 ай бұрын

Couldn't get off in time.

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

Ship bow still holding big portion of bridge,actually ship is trapped .

Only 6?

How come they lost power? , I know this kind of ship has 3 generators, 1 is the main and 2 are stand by.

Who owned the ship?

@waldolydecker8118

2 ай бұрын

Trump

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

8:11 buddy! That was a big ship, but it definitely wasnt 1 mile long. Not as long as the bridge itself smh

I would not dare to try and understand the construction, science etc. it just frightens me that a bridge could collapse so easily. And I do not know the power of those huge ships but still scares me. I live in Charleston SC and we have the Ravenel Bridge and the container ships go under the bridge all the time and when driving over the bridge as those huge ships pass under I always think about what would happen if the base of the bridge was hit.

🙏🏽🕊🙏🏽

This is Bull Ship. If one looks at the "trajectory" of this boat as it approached the span under the bridge allowing it to pass safely, one will easily notice that it took a sharp turn "toward" the pillar before the power went out. It's clear as day.

@aliamro1525

2 ай бұрын

It’s clear that the captain lost power and could not control the ship…stop trying to act like this was deliberate it was an accident

@Kenneth_A_H

2 ай бұрын

@@aliamro1525 Actuall it's still under investigation so you're both wrong. Also the power was going off and on as shown in the video and told by the reporter.

@aliamro1525

2 ай бұрын

@@Kenneth_A_H I’m not wrong lol multiple officials have stated this act was not done on purpose

@grandmak9013

2 ай бұрын

​@@aliamro1525Of course they will say that.

Dolphins are circular sheet pile cells filled with materials like sand or concrete. They essentially serve as bumpers around the piers. If properly positioned, based on current direction, they would have redirected away from the pier or at minimum slowed down the ship reducing the impact force. They are not the most architecturally pleasant feature, but they might have saved lives.

We also know the workers on the bridge dig not use a bridege getting to the US. The company that hired them should be investigated.

Has anyone heard if the containers on the ship were empty or full ? Thank you

@PerryPerfectPerson

2 ай бұрын

I’m sure many were full.

@user-ox7ye6zq6f

2 ай бұрын

Full of sea containers chock full, very heavy., without power no steering possible,

@EricLing64

2 ай бұрын

I would think full. Not exactly cost efficient to move empty containers.

@user-ox7ye6zq6f

2 ай бұрын

My guess they would be full, all those steel Sea containers strapped to the top deck are the containers

@Eli-ss9gj

2 ай бұрын

Iirc they were full. The ship had just left the port.

How does 9 km an hour equal to a car? Since professionals were directing the cargo, they would of changed the direction half an hour earlier or 4.5 kms earlier!!!!!

@Kevin-oo2nw

2 ай бұрын

You clearly don't understand how big these ships are. Without power, they are impossible to steer, and it takes miles for them to stop on their own.

So why did the ship not sound it fog horns to alert people on the bridge...they are built with a manual override in case of loss of power...just saying

It fell like it was balsam wood. 😑 Our Infrastructure sucks.

How many bridge’s collapsed during the last three years?

They had plenty of time to stop the traffic going across the bridge yet no time to get the construction crew off the bridge...? Things that make you go hmmmmm.🤔

Omg...

There is a lot to learn from the two survivors. One ran, one swam to shore. They knew what was going to happen.

They bogus on that boat

Not in that disgusting water

Thanks Pete You the best❤ from the Beautiful Pacific Northwest We support you 100%

@Kenneth_A_H

2 ай бұрын

The guy who needed to tote Biden's infrastructure plan tactlessly is the person you back? Actually gross

The annual Bridge Report, by the American Road and Transportation Builders Association estimated that more than 4,100 Illinois bridges are in need of repair. Of those more than 2,400 are structurally deficient. That’s more than 9% of Illinois bridges. Samy with Maryland.

Ahhh, yes, the bridge. Lord Shiva would say: Omm, namaya nala munda indisha. Yes, wise words indeed. So, how can you be sad? Let us marvel at how beautiful the bridge is now. It has a beautiful form, and may be utilized for other purposes. Yes, you agree?

Remember the Exxon Valdez fiasco? FYI, we knew the name, photograph and bio of that ship's pilot within hours of the event. Maybe I've missed it, but have they ID'd the pilot of this ship? That would seem to be relevant information given, you know, the ship rammed into and knocked down a bridge, killing people, and shut down one of the country's largest and most important ports of call.

@melanieredfield9736

2 ай бұрын

Can we just stop trying to find a person to single out and target with stupid conspiracy theories & blame? If you watch the video, you can see thick black smoke suddenly pouring from the ship & the lights going out twice. They sent a Mayday saying they'd lost control/steering...which did save potential fatalities by stopping bridge traffic. If this was somebody's intentional act, I would think they'd have more sense than to ram a bridge when 200 million tons of containers, and many millions more of steel and concrete, are sitting over top of them.

@V.E.R.O.

2 ай бұрын

It wasn't the pilot's fault the ship lost power and he called a mayday, can't compare the two.

A bridge named after an attorney

@alan-jg5bd

2 ай бұрын

And a poet song writer as well. You hear his work opening any USA sports game. Welcome to Maryland

@joeupyours9708

2 ай бұрын

Salvatore Dali painted a picture called The Broken Bridge. Dali is the name of the ship.

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thats the real TOFU bridge by america!

Ukraine “ we need money to fight Russia “ United States sure here “ 30 billion “ Here there debates in congress on fixing the infrastructure! No funding

I won’t lie I love the infrastructure bill. I love what I see in my state. I love the way the bridges are being made. I love the way the roads are being paved. I love the way that everything is being redone since the 90s. I think this is the closest it has been since 1990 where the roads look clean the places look immaculatestructures look firm so I do give the administration props on the infrastructure bill

Looking at the bridge now, it's easy to believe the cargo ship took out one section and the entire bridge twisted and collapsed. There should have been more connectors built underneath.

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

Buy a clue

@jds6964

2 ай бұрын

You are really ignorant. Do you only like to play with legos?

@ThomwoththeWeather

2 ай бұрын

No pilot and no tugboat. Epic fell when added to the fact the bridge had n9 support safety either. What happens when government fails you..

@bloopgoesdonald6045

2 ай бұрын

Join reality truth seeker

@sandasturner9529

2 ай бұрын

​@@ThomwoththeWeather not the government, it's the engineers that fail us.

hopefully this Ship has very (good) insurance.... otherwise the wealthy country of Singapore shall have to flip a very massive bill......

I’m sure lawsuits are in progress already. Sometimes horrible, terrible things happen and everyone does what they can to prevent tragedies. But I’m sure people are going to be put through more trauma by hungry lawyers and people trying to soothe their pain by inflicting pain on others. It’s the American way 🙄

A fender system, WHERE?

Shouldn’t tugs be used until ships clear the bridge?

I feel all of this happening seems all too coincidental. The company should pay for all of it or something reeks

NTSB is responsible for determining HOW and WHY this happened. Geez, quit asking!

Was the captain a Ukrainian guy?

@carstuff4u942

2 ай бұрын

No

Train derailments not this. Watch…

secretary BOOTYJUICE!

Who gives a freakin' hoot what Pete "Bootie-Judge" thinks!

@waldolydecker8118

2 ай бұрын

Your mother said she does...said she loves giving Bootie to Judges and convicts alike.

Ok I'm not an expert like many people here,but I have a lot of experience in this kind of events and like other times in the past I velibe that from now on they will be acompany by two helper boats.again I'm not an expert but I velibe that two helper boats could have made a big difference thank you.

Questions: 1. Since when have cargo vessels been allowed to deport in the night or early morning hours. The Congress has an obligation to look into this practice. What about insured? Did the Dali Cargo Vessel have insurance? It the repairs or rebuilding the Francis Scott Key Bridge excesses what insurance the Dali cargo vessel had; would not the owners of the Dali be fully responsible for the repairs or rebuilding of the Francis Scott Key Bridge? footnote: president Biden should know that if this was an accident the owners and their insurance carrier have sole responsibility to make the Francis Scott Key Bridge whole. As this was not an act of Nature; the American people's government is not responsible for any related repairs or rebuilding of the Francis Scott Key Bridge. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

@NotSteve88

2 ай бұрын

You need to get your head out of politics

@franmcdonald1011

2 ай бұрын

Dictated by high tides

Discussed

Bridge looks cheaply made.

@Kevin-oo2nw

2 ай бұрын

Lol you think any bridge in the world would be standing if a massive cargo ship struck one of the main support columns?

want to bet they were uninsured?

For preppers concerned about supply chain disruptions and choke points, focus on diversifying your essentials and building a substantial stockpile. Stay informed on global events that might affect these choke points, adapting your strategies accordingly to maintain resilience.

ADD in a factor to the accident. Been that close to HIGH tension power lines!!! And being 90 degrees to them. Creating a transformer effect ie power loss Examine closer to look •e for plasma discharge even between shipping containers also ship bridge the equipment on top of pointy look closer ion damage

The Mayday call📞 came from Port Authority Not the ship ! Where are the windows 🪟on the ship ?

IMO the workers should have been mandatorily evacuated the same time they stopped traffic, assuming it was the company (or state) that told them to stay onsite on the bridge, that company or state should be liable for hundreds of trillions of dollars (That is TRILLION WITH A T) to their families i don't care if they go out of business their decision in that scenario caused it.. if the company can't afford it then they now own the entire company, if its the state and they can't afford it then all statewide tax dollars now go to the families until paid off. don't care

I see a HUGE law suit comming to the Container ship company, Neglegence for not keeping up on Maintenance on the ship! All because of Stupidity and neglect! (just guessing)

---LOW BID CONSTRUCTION.

Who did it?

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

The Democrats... Duh!.... Please note sarcasm

@retiredrudebwoy7500

2 ай бұрын

Your government of course!!!

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

@@retiredrudebwoy7500 keep flailing

@mikusoxlongius

2 ай бұрын

@@Macarena22279 keep botting.

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

@@mikusoxlongius nice try Boris

Ship was off course...an stacked to high to make it under anyway...😮

@elaineshaw7687

2 ай бұрын

It was not stacked too high. You can see in multiple videos/photos. Also important to consider the angles of photos and videos. Ship was on course until they lost steering control. Very sad

@PerryPerfectPerson

2 ай бұрын

You literally are just making stuff up. It clearly had yards and yards or clearance,

@Macarena22279

2 ай бұрын

Goober

This was a pawn in thier GAME

At least they closed the bridge to the public. I wish they would have warned those workers and got them out of there.

@waldolydecker8118

2 ай бұрын

they only closed the bridge 1 minute before impact....no fuggin' way did anybody have time to drive down a 1.6 mile bridge and warn any workers