lapis lazuli was the finest and most expensive colour used in european renaissance paintings, they had to import it by ship from india or afghanistan, thats why they also called the colour made from it 'ultramarine', which is latin for 'beyond the sea'. lapis lazuli is also one of the reasons why Venice became so rich, back then most of the coulor traders were from Venice.

@SonuOfBostonia

10 ай бұрын

And in Minecraft

@michaelwidmann8084

10 ай бұрын

Sacred blue.

@ggxl

10 ай бұрын

Historically speaking, blue is a relatively new color. 💙 "Under pressure"

Perfect collection would be 1. great grandfathers watch 2. grandfathers watch 3. fathers watch.

@jbyrne4531

5 ай бұрын

I definitely can appreciate the sentimentality behind your comment, and if those 3 watches aren’t your only 3 or they could be the safe-queens of the collection, I would totally agree. But why the hell would you want strictly a bunch of delicately made vintage stuff that they aren’t making any more of (that are also family heirlooms) for your daily beaters? If it was a robust watch for the time (like a vintage Submariner or something else tough/in the same vein), I could see that but like Christian says in the video “you NEED something to wear every day that you do everything in. They’re not all momentous occasions.” But hey, you do what you want and if maybe wearing your GGFather’s pocket watch is what floats your boat - don’t listen to a dickhead like me, and you wear that watch if that’s what you want Miss/Mr. Sixty-Nine all of the time 😊 (Spelling Edit)

4:40 It's called egg tempera and it was what painters often used before oil paints took over in the 15th century. Egg tempera (not to be confused with regular tempera which is a kind of gouache or poster paint) was made with egg yolks, water and finely ground pigments - such as the mentioned lapis lazuli, which was used for the color best known as ultramarine. It is more translucent than oil paint so colors appear more brilliant because light reflects against the (usually white) primer. It is also highly lightfast, and it won't yellow over time like many oils do. Oils became popular as they take much longer to dry than egg tempera, which allowed painters to blend more tones, refine their technique and create lifelike paintings. Oils also spread more easily, can be mixed with mediums and thinners, which all makes it easier to work on very large paintings. Oils are also easily stored in soft metal tubes which was a simple invention but one that enabled the emergence of plein air painting and impressionism. There are masterpieces painted with both egg tempera and oils, but the latter remain the gold standard for the art of painting. Never mind me, I'm just a watch nerd... :)

@Officialv5a

10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this write up. I appreciate it a lot

@kresimirpleic

10 ай бұрын

@@Officialv5a Thanks! Enthusiasm exists to be shared!

@nooza4229

10 ай бұрын

Wow, this is really interesting! Thanks for sharing it with us.

@michaelwidmann8084

10 ай бұрын

If I remember right, it was the only dye that could be used for religious paintings, specifically the Virgin Mary, simply because it doesn't fade. That's where the phrase sacrebleu originated. Sacred blue.

@avtex108

9 ай бұрын

thanks x

I love when Mike pronounces Porsche wrong and Christian corrects him and pronounces it wrong, but in a different way :)

@H_tudor

10 ай бұрын

Tbh the way Christian says it , is the most accurate way an American non German guy can say it😂

@WatchesnguitarsDK

10 ай бұрын

It is not too bad. It is righter 😊

@neznamtija8081

10 ай бұрын

There is no right or wrong was to pronounce a name of a brand … English language speakers do not give a shit how germans or bulgarians or arabs pronounce stuff so don’t be butt hurt all the time 😂

@KeepingWatchUK

10 ай бұрын

So if it’s not poor-sh nor poor-sha then how is it pronounced?

I’m a long-time subscriber. Although you are both amazing solo, the energy of your collaboration together on these videos is so much fun!! Thank you for years of great entertainment T & H! 🤗

"I am not a sports watch guy" wearing his GMT :)

My son and I flew down to Savannah and picked up a mint ‘82 Porsche SC in chiffon white and drove it back to NC after hanging at the beach together for the weekend. The car is great. The memories with my son are priceless.

The best part of that Family Guy bit is at the very end when Peter asks the salesman “Why aren’t you writing any of this down?” and the salesman replies, “Because you are wearing Sbarro wrappers for shoes!” 😂🤣😂

Amazing episode guys!! Had me in stitches

What’s up guys. I love the humor you bring to these videos and I always learn something! Keep up the great work. 😊

@nedflanders3769

10 ай бұрын

My first time watching this channel: “who are these jokers?!” Now: “I love these jokers!”

I actually laughed out loud watching an informative video on watch collecting. You guys are an awesome team. Love your videos.

Great conversation (as always). I believe 3 watches - whatever they are - is the perfect collection size. After 3, you’re probably just doing it again, but at a higher level.

I'm in the process of selling all my watches (half a dozen mid tier Seiko and 700+ (no that's not a typo) collectable G-Shocks - it's a long story) and have now bought my exit watch, a Hesalite Moonwatch. I couldn't be happier, it's not small but then the legibility is excellent and it doesn't look silly on my 7" wrist, but best of all I set it in Feb 2023 and it's still within one second. That's more accurate than any of those quartz G-Shocks. I've got some overseas travel coming up and I want to take it with me so I can keep it wound up, but at the same time I don't want to change it to the new location's time-zone because I don't want to pull out the crown and break the spell.

@timtim2949

10 ай бұрын

May I ask why the Hesalite and not the Sapphire Sandwich? I’m interested in a Speedmaster Professional, so your choice intrigues me.

@bushpig6837

10 ай бұрын

@@timtim2949 The sapphire sandwich comes with sapphire caseback and I live in a hot country and have found that glass display casebacks stick to my wrist like a limpet. I much prefer steel caseback with some sort of embossment, the rougher the better for me. This allows more air between the case and the skin.

@tyarnold4088

8 ай бұрын

700+ g shock watches? WTF?

@bushpig6837

8 ай бұрын

@@tyarnold4088 IKR, it's a disease.

@tyarnold4088

8 ай бұрын

@bushpig6837 yeah. You definitely need help.

Omega hit it out if the park with the new Speedy 3861 sapphire sandwich💯

Just came across your channel and love it! You have a new subscriber! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

Love your watch collections, truly inspiring! 😍👏

Great video - as usual, gents! If I had to pick three from my current collection: - Dive/Sport: Starbucks Submariner 126610LV - Dress/Work: Blue Datejust 41 126334 - Everyday: Green dial IWC Pilot Chronograph 41 mm IW388104

Such a fun video! Thanks guys!

Not even 20 seconds in and I already know this will be amazing.

I met Roger Smith… (THE Roger Smith) at an event who was wearing a 2006 Omega Seamaster… just saying. If you ever want to know what horological legends wear.

@alwayspooh1588

10 ай бұрын

Interesting...Maybe his own watches are too expensive and precious to be worn in such a casual setting.

@andrewgiblin3468

10 ай бұрын

I think he also wears a 36mm Explorer.

@tyarnold4088

8 ай бұрын

He said in an interview I watched, that his favorite watch was a Rolex. He said his watches are too expensive for him to own. Lol. No joke.

Gotta love all your topics and taste in watches 👌👌

This series is amazing. More!

Gotta love 3 watch collections! Great stuff guys!

@Mill1495

10 ай бұрын

Love your stuff man! Keep it up!

The Speedy definitely fits your wrist Michael! Because of the asymmetric case, the outer bezel and the black dial, it really fits and feels like a 40mm. It’s also supposed to be a bigger than “normal” watch since it’s a tool watch. Don’t let the specs get in the way of a fantastic watch!!

@AD-bh2hk

7 ай бұрын

Michael should check out the Speedmaster 38 w black dial. Size is great for thin wrist. Bezel is a bit thinner than the moon watch which brings more attention to the dial which I think looks even better.

Now this is cool: Personal 3 watch collection (aka Money an issue): 1. Chrono: Speedy 3861 Hesalite 2. Diver: Oris Diver 65 Blue with Steel bezel 3. Dress: Vintage UG (Genta) polerouter, preferably no date Money no issue 3: 1. E-Day: Speedy Ed White 2. Diver: 62 MAS re-issue with the high end seiko movement 3. Dress: VC americain 1921 Two watch collection: 1. Speedy FOIS 2. Serica 5303 anti-magnetic And one watch collection: I'll go either IWC Mk. XX, Longines spirit 37or, the guys are spot on in this one, a simple black dial OP, mind you I can attest for the Longines spirit 37mm tried it on an AD, and is just beautiful, a testament to all the field and pilot references Longines has ever done.

You can tell when some people are more than work parters. The way you two laugh contagiously with each other is great!

“I’m having a hard time describing the je ne sais quoi” 😂

Excellent video. I made the mistake of buying too many watches too quickly and now I have many watches that do not get any use at all.

@leonelcunca2843

9 ай бұрын

Same here 🥲

Lapis lazuli was so expensive that the artists at the time reserved it for important figures. This is why the clothes of the Virgin Mary were often painted in blue.

If I had a shot for every time I hear "best watch I've ever seen" in this episode, I wouldn't make it till the end xD. Love your work guys!

Great video as always. Christian can you please bring back "Off Topic" i really miss those videos

Really fun video!

Agree with Christian, wrist shots always seem to make the watch look bigger. Now I hold the camera further back and then zoom to reduce paralax effect. Michael, why not the Speedy 38?

A banger of an episode! Laughed a little too hard on this. Hahaha.

I got a Rolex OP41 with black dial as my one watch and I daily it. Super easy to dress up or down.

You guys are fucking hilarious. I smile and laugh through your entire video(s), what a reprieve from the daily grind. Thanks for making me more informed on watches, the watch industry and laughing at the same time. Keep up the great work! Let me know if y'all ever go on tour ;)

If the three watch nerd at top price point doesn’t have an A Lange & Sohne….

Great choices!

I would enjoy more pictures of the watches mentioned so i dont have to google all the time :) Great episode!

I started one year ago with my first proper watch: the Speedy. This year I am looking at a dive watch for my 30th birthday. The Tudor Black Bay 58 in blue really is high on my list. I only buy a watch linked to special occasions. Long term I’m also looking at the Rolex Datejust green dial with the jubilee bracelet. Only point I’m slightly worried about: bit boring collection or not? On the other hand, I truly believe one should buy what one adores and for me it’s these three. Fourth one would be a Cartier Tank maybe but that’s for in a few years since we have to save up as well a bit of course.

"I actually put the Longines quality over the Tudor quality" ... can I get a hallelujah!

Absolutely love my 3861 Speedmaster. From Michael's wristshots it looks like he went with the 48mm version. Bold call.

My 3 watch collection: Rolex Daytona, Patek Nautilus, Patek Calatrava

My perfect 3 watch collection would be a Heuer Carrera chronograph on a racing strap. A Panerai Luminor. (I know they're not popular anymore but I think they're beautiful, with a lot more credibility than the previous inspiration of Rolex) And lastly a beautiful beater Seiko Presage with a zen garden dial.

@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78

10 ай бұрын

great unique 3 watches there

@davidthom7127

10 ай бұрын

@@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 what's yours ?

@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78

10 ай бұрын

@@davidthom7127 SBGA283,Tudor Black Bay 58, Monta Noble

@Gojo1911

10 ай бұрын

Interesting choices. Mine would probably be: 1.) the Longines Heritage Classic Sector Dial as my evening/dress/business watch 2.) the Christopher Ward Twelve Titanium as my sports watch and 3) the Omega Speedmaster Professional as my chronograph

@tyarnold4088

8 ай бұрын

Who cares what is popular. Buy what you like. All good watches.

My current 3 watch collection: Rolex Explorer 1 36 mm, rolex dj 36 mint green Fluted jubilee, tudor bb 58 blue on leather strap. Covers basically all basis!

@latinballa88

3 ай бұрын

Amazing three. Wish I hadn’t spent so much time and money figuring this out 😂

'I'm not very much a sports watch guy..' *flails GMT Master across the screen* lol😂

Amidst learning a lot I laughed more than during any other watch video, so thanks 🙏

When Christian introduces himself in real life, does he say he’s a curator of Theo and Harris?

Wearing my longines spirit 37mm in black rn and it’s honestly unbeatable. Love it.

@robortski

10 ай бұрын

I sold mine after finally getting an Explorer and I honestly loved the Longines more. Might get the champagne dial.

@angustillett2649

10 ай бұрын

@@robortski yeh man I totally agree, the explorer was always a watch I was gonna get, but the spirit has really filled the gap for me, at least for now. The explorer has the Rolex aura but the spirit is a killer watch. And yeh I recon the 37mm champagne dial is the best of the range, I’ve got a champagne datejust which is the only reason I picked the black.

This was crazy good

love the discussion.

Gold speedmaster is amazing

If i had to get to 3 from my current roster (random order,): 1. Chrono: Speedy reduced 92' olympics 2. Diver: Seamaster no time to die 3. Dress: Grand seiko Omiwatari Alternate: vintage 3 hand gilt rolex oyster precision 1957

IMHO a watch fits well if it wears well. Further, I suggest photos taken from elbow to extended finger tip to better judge the proportion of watch-to-body. Lastly, the Speedmaster Moonwatch is the ultimate tool watch, buy it and enjoy it regardless of anything else!

You guys know that when you take a wrist shot, your forearm bones crossover and make your wrist look thinner. However, when your wrist is not turned toward your face, your forearm bones are side-by-side making your wrist look larger. Everyone’s wrist looks smaller when checking the time than hanging by your side.

Rolex Explorer 1, 114270z Orfina Porsche design " 1 Mile" Tag Heuer 1000 Night diver quartz, That's a Cult classic and my honorable mention would be my Seiko Tuna SBBN035 Marine Master Ninja. I LOVE that watch

Christian, where can I get that shirt?

Pivot to car talk - the 911 Turbo S is an overkill of a daily driver car. I'd go with a 911 Carrera S Targa (only get the 4 if you have weather needs). Classic look, subtle flex, but plenty of power to enjoy daily driving. But to watches - Omega for 2 watch collection under $10k is a great idea! Maybe get the hesalite version and use the extra money on an prior Aqua Terra on a strap? Love your content - literally makes my day when your videos come out. :)

Omega is still an absolute powerhouse of value. You can pick up a good condition 1960's Geneve Ladymatic for £200.

My favourite watch channel Love the banter and chemistry Great watch picks. Less convinced on the X5! Also check out my 3 short (1 min) videos two weeks back on best watch collections at different price points. Love to get your thoughts.

@robinbanderman4151

10 ай бұрын

Shameless plug!!! Although less focused on vintage I did enjoy your shorts videos on watch collections as well.

@dylanjacobson8411

10 ай бұрын

I agree 1/T&H best channel 2/Shameless plug! 3/But to be fair did enjoy your short videos you posted before on watch collections and also the one on natural stone dials

My 3 watches collection: Tank Louis(current version) JLC reverso with stain steel bracelet Santos 2 tones(quartz 90s vintage) Size matter to me, I got a small wrist 😅

My basic 3 watch collection - Speedy 3861 Hesalite, SMP 300 white dial and Omega 41 Aqua Terra blue dial

1) Speedy Pro 2) Rolex datejust fluted bezel steel and gold 36mm 3) Pelagos 39

My three watch collection because I'm young and naive and think I'll ever be able to actually afford any of this at some point 1. Laurent Ferrier Grand sport tourbillon ref LCF041 2. Patek 5196 WG 3. Universal Geneve Nina Rindt (Blue face) Honourable mention to the FP journe Elegante any variant

U guys are the best 🎉❤

I love your guys as show I watched each and every one I feel like if you like your collection, you're not buying it for future investment, you're not buying it to sell in the future. It's something you want to enjoy in your life, and you know, you take it where that's it, because banged app against banged app, you're gonna use your watches. You can't buy a wrong collection because you would get what you want, but if you're young, kind of makes certain people look at you try to get a girl's attention, you no chances are relaxed as the best way to go, although I've just bought a brand new grand safe go and I'm waiting for it to get here I bought the. The blue frost is gorgeous, I love it. It's got the 36000 beat movement. I'm really excited about it, thank you guys.

Michael should try the Speedmaster 38 w black dial. Size is great for a thin wrist. Bezel is a bit thinner than the moon watch which brings more attention to the dial which I think looks even better. I decided to go with the 38 despite thinking I could pull off the moonwatch. Very happy I did.

@mike_dunno

6 ай бұрын

The movement is expensive to service tho

I really want the green one too!

$6.5k one watch: Two Tome Omega SMP Black ceramic and Rose (Sedna) gold on rubber strap. Or many other dial colors and if you like the steel strap (which I don’t love).

Off topic, but value any input. My friend and I bought stainless Rolex as tool watches. Any thoughts on why the brand didn't use the Cellini line as a vehicle for haute horology and offer Subs, Daytonas, Explorers, etc. only as task instruments. Also, any thoughts on Damasko and Junghans?

My personal: Speedy Reduced 3510.50 on 18mm Omega mesh bracelet, nato or Black leather strap Seamaster 368.1041 Pre-Bond SSYG auto large on factory (of course) SS bracelet Apple Watch S6 on a Spectre style nato

dumb question, but are there vintage mechanical traditionally sized cartier louis?

About Speedmaster. If you choose a vintage version like 176.007 (I won one), it can look small on your wrist (despite it is tall one)

You gotta get a de-esser on the mic, Christian’s S’s whistle like he’s got dentures sometimes 😅 great shows! Always!

one watch collection from T&H , Rolex Sea dweller…. perfect one watch collection for me ( I do have a backup Studio underdog)

Honestly quite surprised that christooher ward is never mentioned in these videos, is it due to them only being accessible through their own website or you guys just aren't fans? About to get the C60 pro 300 bronze and already have the C60 lympstone which I love and think is amazing value for the price! What are other people's opinions?

OMG I AGREE WITH THE CARTIER ANNOYANCE!

@5:12 Michael talks about the IWC Porsche Design Compass watches. There are a few corrections that need to be made. 1. There are 3 different models and they used different finishes and materials... and in the case of one has the moonphase. - The 1978 ref. 3510 was Aluminum with PVD, available in Black and Green PVD. The face was updated in 1982 to the 1980's IWC logo changes. - The 1985 ref. 3551 Compass with Moonphase. While the case was Aluminum again as with the 3510, the bracelet supplied used another material IWC and PD introduced with the ref. 3701 Chronograph - Delrin (a plastic) - The 1991 ref. 3511 Titan Compass. This model was presented in Titanium which the 2 brands made famous a decade prior with the ref.3700 Titan Chrono. The crown was moved from 3 to 4-o'clock. There is also some more finishing details that set it apart. 2. None of these have a "beacon" as Michael said. The only watches with such a device are the Breitling Emergency, Emergency Mission and Emergency II. At the time the Compass itself was "high tech" and special. 3. The lightest of the 3 is the 3511 because of the Titanium case and bracelet. The Moonphase (3551) because of the Delrin bracelet is the 2nd lightest, and the 3510 with all Aluminum construction is the heaviest. Unfortunately, the Delrin bracelets do not age well... and tended to fail and so many of the 3551's you see in the market are on replacement straps (mostly leather as the Delrins are OOP for many years). 4. Of the 3 there are differences in the flip mechanism to flip up the watch. The 3510 and 3551 just release the lock and it lifts a little and you raise it further. The 3511 upgraded this with a spring action that very satisfyingly "hops" up a bit. 5. All 3 are 39mm. Which I think will suit Michael's wrist well. The watch is a time-capsule of cool. In 2010, modern Porsche Design (no longer working with IWC) released a re-issue of the Compass as the Porsche Design Compass Heritage (ref. P6520) but now in 42mm... it is too big for the look. I think you will like the 3511 the most. The 3551 is very nice but hard to find with a good strap. Enjoy the hunt.

Selling anything but three, I would keep: 1. VC 7900V black dial 2. HMC Endeavour ref 1200-0404 3. Breitling Premier Datora

What shirt brand does christain wear

Don’t love the Daytona as a 1 watch collection. I actually own the “light” steel model (though black dial) from this video but I rarely wear it because the dial legibility is actually terrible. No doubt it looks awesome, though…

If you reduced this video to the parts which were salient, it would probably have been about six minutes long.

Great episode 👏🏼 truly engaging watchguys talking, jokes, memories and knowledge 👏🏼 congratulations Michael and Christian

My 3 watch collection rn is the Apple Watch, 2008 Explore 36mm and 1601 white gold datejust the only one I would replace is the Apple Watch with a Casio or Cartier I also really like some vintage Tudor pieces

Which Zenith is Michael wearing?

There's no point to make a list... I like too many things. Probably a tantalum Journe, a Triple Split, the Zeitwerk, the Odyseus chrono, the Perpetual MB&F, the AK06 from Akrivia, AP RO with a manufacture caliber, the Hamatic M. Grossmann, the 222 VC, some Breguets, a couple Gronefelds, the chrono surely, the Kodo, there's Kari in there somewhere, and a DeBethune, Blancpain Bathy chrono on a 2020 SS bracelet, a discontinued GO PanoRetroGraph, a Minerva (Mont Blanc) chrono, I can continue...

Anyone know which watch Christian is wearing in this video?

Should I trade my DateJust41 green Motif for a Gold DayDate?

The speedmaster does look huge on his wrist indeed

Great vid, but I hate that Nomos didn’t show up on any list. The sport line 38/42 specifically. Seemed like a slam dunk.

Those knuckle cracks were incredible

“Competition is the thief of joy”. Like you said Christian, it should just be fun. People shouldn’t let “keeping up with the Jones’” ruin what should be fun!

Try the Speedmaster Mark 40! 39 mm with the triple date.

Basic 3 watch collection: Overseas, Aquanaut and some A Lange und Söhne like the Saxonia Thin

Get the Speedmaster Reduced if you don’t like the big size of the regular.

Paring my collection down to: 1. Nomos Club Sport 42 in Blue 2. Longines Master Collection 190th Anniversary (custom strap) 3. Rolex Explorer 40mm (working on that one)

Michael needs to check out the first omega in space Speedmaster

Get the Targa and never look back! I've got a 911 Carrera and it never gets old. Had it since 2017.

Dear watch brands, Please do as the PRX and issue (waterproof) 35mm versions! Omega? Please? A 35mm Speedmaster? 🙏 A 35mm Railmaster? 🙏 Zenith? Please? A 35mm El Primero? 🙏 Or Longines? Please? A 35mm Spirit Zulu Time? 🙏 Or Tudor? Please? A 35mm Ranger? 🙏 A 35mm GMT? 🙏 JLC? A waterproof Medium or Small Reveso Duo Face? 🙏

@fab873

10 ай бұрын

Omega has a 38 speedy called reduced and it's awesome and way underestimated

@JDYTC

10 ай бұрын

@@fab873 Of course I know. I’m not interested in 38 since it still looks like a wall clock on me. Omega also issued feminine 35/36mm Speedies with diamond bezels.

As a one watch collection the Rolex OP is great but i personally feel if it is just one watch... i kind of need that date. Thats just me.