the Ganzo heat treatment on the 440C is excellent. good edge retention and no chipping.

@Monsoonpain

12 күн бұрын

Last time , different vid...people were mocking me because I said 440c is great with the RIGHT heat treatment, and good blade geometry

I am an unapologetic Ganzo guy. The G729 is the PM2 Clone with an axis lock. Its one of my most beloved beaters lol

I don't like the idea of people's designs being stolen and not receiving credit. However, companies like Ganzo really do show that some of these larger and more prestigious knife manufacturers need to step up in certain areas.

@jlogue751

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Very true,

@rwillaz

2 жыл бұрын

You must be opposed to using an iPhone or Android phone because both platforms steal ideas from the other without acknowledgement.

@catmandu6776

Жыл бұрын

Larger more prestigious knife manufacturers cant afford to compete with companies like Ganzo. It costs big money to hire good designers and research for product development. It's easy to produce good quality products for less money when you do nothing but rip off good designs that other companies put a lot of time, money and man power into designing. Ganzo should never be an example of what can or should be achieved, it's exactly the opposite. They are an example of what should never be done and it's a shame that so many people support companies like that with their hard earned money.

@DennisdeJong

Жыл бұрын

Guess they just improved instead of reinventing the wheel.

You’re a brave man..

I started my pocket knife collection with inexpensive, sturdy & dependable Ganzo knives. Because I was new to knives, I didn’t know they were clones. They were just great knives..!

One of the best videos I’ve seen in the community, Thanks!!!!!

Nice video. Thanks for the comparisons

The Ganzo 720 is amazing, I used it to open a big can of refriend beans and it got a bit dull but was super easy to sharpen up again -- their 440C is amazing! You can definitely rely on this knife as a heavy duty camping folder, it is a budget beast!

Great of you to be so candid about it, Jerad. I have a Griptilian but also have a Ganzo coming in , so thanks for the review. I'm in Asia, but I do appreciate the cachet that "Made In USA" still has.

Appreciate the honesty, even if I don’t fully support clones, they still can definitely offer good quality for the price

@catmandu6776

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think they can offer good quality for the price? Clones are never acceptable.

@MsHaiducu

Жыл бұрын

@@catmandu6776 A well made 30 dollar knife is just as useful as a 200 dollar one. Maybe i just like a certain design but i don t want to spend a lot of money on something that i intend to use daily and abuse. I hate counterfeit knives(the ones that try to pass for something they are not),don t get me wrong but clones are something else entirely.let s face it.People who want a benchmade( or any other premium expensive brand) will buy a benchmade and they will never look at a ganzo.Why souldn t the rest of us have a budget version?I personally don t have a lot of money to spend on knives and, i buy what i can.Also,here in Europe they are far more expensive.

@eabnamoliben1598

Жыл бұрын

@@catmandu6776 clones are not acceptable even though they perform better?

@catmandu6776

Жыл бұрын

@@eabnamoliben1598 if the company producing the clone is paying royalties to the company that came up with the original design then clones are perfectly acceptable, if that's what you're into.

@edewar6004

Жыл бұрын

They're not clones, and most people who buy Ganzos would never realistically pay hundreds of dollars for the original design. So I'd say they're not taking much business from the originals because they're not the same market.

The Ganzo 727M has a 440C blade. The Ganzo 727S is my favorite EDC knife!

@SaigonKick2018

2 жыл бұрын

I own several of the Ontario Rats, both the 1&2. I found the 727M and 727S to be somewhat better. The 727M being smaller than the Rat1 seemed to edc better. The Ganzo handle material seemed higher quality and the Axis style lock/bearings made the knives easier to manipulate.

@beaurex4756

2 жыл бұрын

The Ganzo 727S is one of my favorite knives. Excellent action, perfect size.

@Oshianis

Жыл бұрын

The ganzo g727m is 440c and is on washers. Ganzo also makes a d727m, same knife, except d2 steel and is on bearings.

Supper interesting idea for a vid. I really enjoyed this. Thank you!

That was a good thought-provoking video. I guess it comes down to what quality blade you prefer and how you are going to use the knife.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

For sure

I loved the axis lock. I loved it when it was the ultra lock by cold steel. I worked outdoors, knives would typically be abused daily. I tried to avoid it. But, nature of the business. Tool replacement is a part of the budget. Cold steel had the recon line. 4-ish inch blade, nice and broad, ground down pretty thin for an over built pocket hatchet. Easy to get a reasonable edge. My glove size is XL, at the very minimum. I needed and enjoyed the bigger handles. Ocassionally, I would baton those knives, with a framing hammer. The face of the hammer was ground smooth and offset to my taste. The chamfer on the blade stopped any mushrooming before it became an issue. Those old knives were great. Then comes Benchmade. I wasn't concerned about the legal stuff. I expected an immediate release of a competing product. With similar qualities, but likely at a premium. Because, "they are taking their ball and going home". If anyone wants to play, they will have to pay. Fair enough. To this day Benchmade has never released a competing product. They did make generations of poorly made "gentleman's knives" with that lock. Decades of knives too small, and too weak for my needs. All the while monopolizing, the obviously strongest lock. This left me pretty sour on Benchmade. I recently made the mistake of buying my first Benchmade. My state recently legalized autos. I thought I should go out and get myself a snappy side opener that looked generic enough not to raise eyebrows. The Benchmade claymore fit the bill perfectly. Snappy as can be. Crappy plastic scales. No one would be the wiser. My first legal auto would be a beater out of the box. It is definetly, as persued. Cheap, generic, and beater like a farm truck. I was cool with that. I signed up for that. I paid entirely too much for that experience. I bought from a well known retailer in person. I watched the guy open my box. I pushed the button, thing didn't fall apart, so I bought it. I got it home and started exploring the edge. There is no edge. Someone roughed it in on a 400 grit belt, never got a burr, and just shipped it. My first Benchmade feels like a cheaper knockoff, of its cheap knockoff self. Also my last Benchmade. I wish I could sell it. I really can't let it leave my possession. I'll sharpen it, and put it to purpose. See what it could be. Maybe I will like it in time. I would like it at $60 maybe even $100.

@Mr.Fields.

Жыл бұрын

Get it nice n sharp. It’ll grow on you.

@thecjwolfpack

11 ай бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this opinion

@terpdx

5 ай бұрын

Yes, Benchmades are overpriced and their grivory scales feel distressingly flimsy, but I haven't had any complaints about functionality or performance. They have polymer handles in other materials (Noryl GTX, etc.) but I don't have any personal experience with them - all of mine are either G-10, CF, or aluminum. Also, I wouldn't judge a folder by how well it handles abusive use in the outdoors, especially batoning. That's what fixed blades are for. It's great if you find a knife that can handle that kind of usage, but I'm not knocking any folder which can't. It would be like complaining your sports car can't carry enough lumber. Wrong tool for the job.

Thanks for the honest opinions! I’m sure you will get plenty of blow back but I know you can handle that! Ganzo does make a solid axis lock knife.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

👊

This is really fun! I’m sitting on the edge of my seat!

As far as the Lionsteel, I would recommend the ganzo if you plan to use the knife (you know for cutting things). The lionsteel I had was in sleipner which I love, but the grind is so thick and the lock so delicate that I just decided to regrind mine into something slicey and useful and destroy any resale value. It was an awesome user with a nice convex on the thin behind the edge regrind. The ganzo can get you pretty close to the same place for a lot less money and not feel bad about grinding it down.

I just got the Ganzo “RAT FINK” as some call it. I also got one for my buddy. Once I get the axis lock broke in it will be great. I’ve seen the lock is hit or miss from the factory. It’s one of my favorite Ganzo I’ve bought so far. You can call me a Ganzo Lover and I’m proud of it. You can’t beat their quality for the price. Awesome video Jared.

@petemitchell6788

4 ай бұрын

I got one 4 years ago. The lock fails easily. I’m not sure why Neeves keeps saying it without testing it himself. He’s basing it on Benchmade’s version.

What an awesome and honest video Jerad. Appreciate it.

Got to say that Ganzo makes a good Axis lock system and they do a good job on their 440C and D2. Say what you will but they do offer great value for the money. Thanks for the look see and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable

@Monsoonpain

12 күн бұрын

Meanwhile, I've gotten bashed in the comments for saying, "440c is great with proper heat treatment, and proper blade geometry ". Today people praise Ganzo 440c

I have 4 Ganzo knives and I always recommend them to my friends as being a great knife for the money. I have tortured my 720 for about 8 months now, and never had a problem other than basic sharpening.

Thank you GANZO KNIFE CO. 😊😊😊

Love it...keep em on their toes

Love my Ganzo F720.

Ganzos have their uses. I personally own two Spydie PM2's but I use a G729 to fidget with. It's actually harder to reverse "flick" the G729 so it's good practice!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Bang

Jerad- If you have more examples for videos like this that'd be sweet. I love the compare of contrast of the clones vs the reals,

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

👊

Man. I love Ganzos. I have a benchmade griptillian but for some reason I reach for the ganzos more often! Also easier to get a bigger collection going than only buying crazy expensive knives.

Really love Ganzo knives, great quality and cheap too

I have usually adjusted the pivot screws in order to satisfy my need. It’s very quick and easy. My Bench made knives require fine tuning as well. A few minutes of fine tuning can make a big difference.

Excellent content! Been eyeing that Lionsteel knock off for months now.

I appreciate your honesty in this matter! Also, there is a Paramilitary 2 lookalike Ganzo, the G730. It runs on washers and has a liner lock. And then the G729, same shape but with an oddly shaped thumb hole and crossbar lock. PS: I'd choose 440C over D2 any day.

Not sure if they make it anymore but the Ganzo clone of the PM2 is the G729. It was my first and only ganzo and honestly its pretty damn good.

Great video. Great topic. I'm glad you did this one. Very honest. I'm a budget guy and I agree with your assessments.

I'm glad to hear you say the Rat is a great work knife because that's what I use as my work knife as a contractor.

Thank you for the amazing content! I've decided on either Ganzo vs Sitivien $30 range Axis lock models. Which one do you think is better purely in terms of the axis lock mechanism + overall longevity?

Very enjoyable video.

Great idea for a video

Started to watch this video with cheese and crackers and almost choked when you brought out the Ganzo. When you brought out the Ganzo again, crackers and cheese went up my nose! LOL! Cat's got my tongue on this one!

I've had my standard 940 customized almost exactly like that for almost a year now!! One hell of a looker for sure, I love the slight stonewash finish on both the blade and scales. Flytanium kicks so much ass, slapped some Glow Rhino blue tritium thumbstuds on there too. Can't wait to defile a Manix 2 XL with some Flytanium as well lmfao.

Big fan of Ganzo knives. Great value for money.

Ganzo makes a killer knife for the money.

@user-xe6vf5jd7j

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have fh 61 in house design... It's awesome

@ericpitre4031

2 жыл бұрын

EF too

Fun idea for a vid. Very entertaining 👍

Just bought a couple of this Ganzo knifes and they are really good, they came very sharp out of the box, let's just see how they handle the daily abuse, just a couple of weeks with them but they keep their edge pretty good so far.

This was a very entertaining video amazing how many companies copy each others work and acts like it isn't an issue

I've had a shaving sharp edge wipe off a Ganzo 440c blade with a single cut in cardboard. It could still cut, but shaving hair was off the table with a single cut.

What was attached to the compression lock on the pm2?

I received a Ganzo FH922 two days ago. I haven't seen another design quite like this one, so I doubt it is a clone. And I have not seen any American made knives made as well using D2 steel, G10, and rollar bearing actions for $25 either. I carried it some yesterday but haven't actually used it on anything. It's a robust knife with a smooth action and good ergonomics. The blade edge bevel is very even on both sides and it literally came shaving sharp. I'm quite taken with the very symmetrical design, and especially the full flat grind on the blade. It's shape reminds me a bit of a folding Kephart bush craft knife. My wife even thought it was a nice looking blade, and she's not into knives she can't use in the kitchen. I selected the bright orange version, which really is a pretty hideous color. But this is the blade I plan to carry while in the woods, and especially over the next few months getting the deer lease ready for hunting season. I wanted something that would be relatively easy to find if I somehow dropped it in the woods. I once dropped a black high end tactical folder at a small park with pretty short grass and never I found it. Lesson learned. Short of affixing a blinking light on the Ganzo, I doubt much else will make it stand out as well as the bright orange color if it is dropped on the ground. This blade is D2, if I could pick the steel, I would have picked 440C because it's a bit easier to sharpen with a natural whetstone, and 440C is also a tad more rust resistant. But once D2 is sharp, it does really hold an edge, so I can live with it. If I had to buy another knife today, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it if it was a Ganzo.

@cncshorts1075

Жыл бұрын

I love mine also

The whole "clone or design stealing" argument are moot these days. The vaping industry went through the same thing back in the early 2000's. That is until a copy of a "high-end" device got released before the original did. It showed that certain companies were burning the candle at both ends. Chinese quality control has,gotten far better recently and I think they are giving competition to these over priced knives being sold today.

@General_Kenobi_212

Жыл бұрын

I've always been against the whole design stealing thing until I looked into how much in parts and labor it (really) costs these companies to make their knives and companies like Benchmade for example especially are ripping us off, they're ridiculously overpriced and even if you did want to pay it anyways to support them and buy a USA made product their quality control is terrible so your overpaying like crazy for a lesser product (not even equal which is especially messed up), certain companies I'll still support I love my Rat2 and don't see myself replacing it anytime soon I even have a custom hardware and a deep carry clip on it, and other Chinese companies like Civivi, QSP, and CJRB make great knives that aren't clones for good prices too I love the knife industry but Ganzo should be a wake up call to not rip people off with prices and get your quality control together....

I think you're right to point these things out.

I tried the Ganzo Rat clone and I couldn’t use the Axis lock so I’m curious if you lubed it or loosened it. Granted I only played with it at my local cutlery store

@NeevesKnives

Жыл бұрын

No I didn't do anything but they have different versions some with bearings which are super smooth right away, the ones on washers might need a bit of break in

Gday from WA!!!!! You broke my hart when you said the Lion Steel does not hold up and its a D2 blade , I loved the look of that bugger. Iv been looking at a Ganzo for sometime maybe the F720, just not sure about buying knock offs. That Benchmade 940 looks "BANGING" big jump in $$$s from the Ganzo but USA made goes along way. If pos buy local everytime they say, you wana try buying local down here they all think we are miners on 5K a week. Cant put down my Kizer Flip Shank at the mo, "flipping" ripa of a knife, she is a TANK but a small TANK. Cheers Cobber and all the best from the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I think Ganzo us mostly doing there own designs now and are basically just selling off what's left of the older stuff

I have a Schrade Divergent that looks almost exactly like the Asher Nomad. I had no idea that it was copying that model. I have not handled the Asher, but i will say the action on the Schrade is amazing 🤔

@Gabor.Bujdoso

2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered the Divergent, I never had a Schrade knife before, so I'm really curious how the build quality is. And yes, it looks exactly like the Nomad! 😀

Great video! This theme is very interesting especially for your European followers as knives are more expensive over here.

The Benchmade Ritter griptilians are amazing if you can get one of the original M390 Benchmade brand on the secondary market grab it. The freek is close but just not the same ergonomics and blade geometry, I haven't owned a houge but I've heard they had some heat treatment consistency struggles with the 20cv.

great info my dear friend jared , keep up the great work , super great content and vids all the time, i learn soooooo much , thanks > tom !

Another Great video review!! I agree!! Basically, cloned type knives should always be considered disposable knives. 440c needs to be constantly sharpened. Thank you!! :)

@keeperoftruth5951

4 ай бұрын

Lol no it doesn't. Don't try to cut concrete and the edge will last. Especially ganzos 440

Where did you get the little skull for your Paracord on the ganzo 773 ?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Watch my lanyard bead video, and check the description

you would have liked the Benchmade 950 -Rift. (I wish I hadn't traded it a few years back, it was the perfect size up from the 940)

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I know I never got to try that or the contego

The RAT1 has FRN and Ganzo has G-10 tipping that scale toward Ganzo I'd say.

Have you looked at the hinderer stop pins. They are tiny. I just dont get it

Proud of you Jared for tackling this subject. I love my Shamin, Super Freak and Buyout Clones :)

I bought a Ganzo for my daughter a few years ago. She carries it every day and everywhere. It's the large spider hole variety. I haven't had to sharpen it or maintain it in any way. While I'm not in love with spider type knives in as much as I feel there's a hole where the steel should go, It works a treat, she loves it and I haven't had to deal with it since I gave it to her and I know for a fact, she does nothing to maintain it. Ganzo does 440C pretty well. I realize she's not a hard knife user, but as a dad I feel better knowing she has a knife on her person if she needs to cut something, that won't fail in a pinch. Some of Ganzo's designs are better than others, but there are some real winners in their line up. As to their Rat 1 copy... you can't beat the original and for the most part the price is more than fair.

we would like to see more videos of this topic

One the best knives material I see last time👍👍👍 First great knife colection and taste 👍 Ganzo is a king and big company feel them breath on they back is very good for us, customers. Mass people buy that knife and real use it, that G733 is doscontinued 😢😢 i dont have this in my collection:/ I have 20pcs Ganzo knives and all of that is great! I don have nothing from that new D2 steel line because they made medium-small knife, I like medium-big, and prices is much higher, they also use liner lock that in my opinion is step back. If that third knife made by Ganzo, they will by the same or even far better that orginal one ;) Thanks to enlan, ganzo, sanremnu, tekut, brothers -people start collection folding knives. Thanks for super material, l 100% agree with You 😎

Ganzo makes amazing knife and steel. Their old knives takes the design of other knives, but all their newer original design FH series are amazing D2 steel knives with the smoothest action on bearing... With the same price as their older knives at $25. Can't beat ganzo for value.

At 21 minutes when he introduced the Asher I truly thought that the clone was going to be the Schrade divergent. It's a $30 axis lock that mimics the appearance perfectly. It's Aus-8 and g10

good content; same done on slippery knives, a versus on their clones?would be interesting;

I cannot find the Ganzo f7562. Did they stop making it?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I believe they are selling off most of there old stuff and going with their in house designs, but you can possibly still find them on power cutlery, through ganzo but you will pay a bit more there. On ebay, possibly Allie express but I mostly don't recommend them

Have you ever tried a Green Thorn knife?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure

I can't get hold on omega springs to my "real" bugout bk2 and it costs 30 euros to send it to the US.🥶 I've put in a backspacer in it, just God knows if the warranty is still valid with it.

The Ganzo I have hurt my thumb it was so tight. I took it apart and squished the Omega spring and now it's borderline too loose. Have you modified yours in any way?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

No I just keep operating them, the older ones came with stronger springs, some of the newer made ones are a bit better off the bat, either way they break in, another way is to leave it slightly open over nights your not using them soothe spring compresses, it will help rush the break in, same with spyderco manix

@1980JPA

2 жыл бұрын

On a crossbar style lock, if you open the blade just enough until you see the bar travel as far back as it goes and then either block the blade from closing with something, or stick something in front of the locking bar and leave it like that for a day or two it usually loosens it up without being too much. You can just leave it until it's how you like it. "OCD forEDC" Actually sells a metal pin to put in the Spyderco Manix for this exact reason. (Not the same style lock internally, but essentially the same fix)

This is the way

Is the ganzo 940 clone discontinued as i wanted to take look but your link brings me to a different knife

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Probably I think they are selling off the old stuff and only making in house designs now

@mikewroblewski9329

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives i wanted to pick one up cause i like my 940 way to much . And abuse my edc blades ..

Great video I don't really care what people buy I started buying cheap then more expensive but I'd still buy a ganzo if they can incorporate some things that makes us like the expensive ones for less than half I say why not Great vid

I would love an Asher nomad, it's my son's initials Asher Knapp

Got a hogue ritter on the way, what do you think Jared? Thanks I trust your opinion.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Its a great knife, I wish the deployment had stronger detent like what SOG is doing with there axis locks but Regardless it's a knife to be proud of

Ganzo started my affliction.

this honesty will hopefully open the eyes of these American companies that they need to start bringing the heat and lowering the prices to overcome the clone market.

@jdisdetermined

2 жыл бұрын

And more of the overpriced, forced rarity companies need to start bringing out production variants of their knives. If people can actually buy a certified production version of knives they want but can’t get otherwise, the market for clones will shrink drastically. They’ll make more money, the subcontractor makes money, they’re sticking it to the clone makers, the consumers are happy, everybody wins. Companies like Reate are more than capable of meeting even the most precise of tolerances, complexity and quality control.

Ganzos are good copies. Having lost a Spiderco over the side working in the marine industry. It’s less painful when your knife takes the seabottom challenge.

So... why show Amazon links to knives that are no longer available ??

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

They probably sold out, when I added them they were available, after using the link you can look around and see if you can find something else or maybe a different option they have

You have become my go to knife guy............................................bang!

I'm loving this clone comparison stuff. No one else does it. Really shows if you want to be cheap you get junk. Have you thought of comparing alliexpress clones?

Maxace Sandstorm vs Eafengrow EF967. There's a nice clone matchup

The ganzo 727m uses one metal and one nylon washer. The 727s uses ball bearing washers. At least mine do, anyway. I bought both of them last month.

@Oshianis

Жыл бұрын

G727m uses washers. D727m is on bearings.

I can attest the ganzo kicks ass 👍👍 edit 3 months later or so . The ganzo 720 does well in the woods but now I ve seen nicer knives and the fit and finish on 2-$300 knives is so much better and all around better but for a cheaper knife it works well but also is cheaply done .

Anyone know where to buy a Centri?

Do you think the plans for Asher's knives "walked" off the line of his OEM into another department, or across the street?

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

No I think the oem double crossed but they stopped making them now

I know you already know this but some of that price difference is the materials you get, plus Benchmade is offering free life time sharpening. I feel like we don’t take that into consideration enough when talking about their prices. Look at CRK and they charge something for a spa day. Also sorry to hear about your Flytanium scales. 2 of my 3 fit perfect and the one the drill holes were off causing centering issues but easy fix. Love the concept of this video though. Fun to see it done. 👊

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

For sure! And I recommend just going with the real brand always, but I understand being the guy who needs a knife but doesn't have the extra $ that still wants something reliable. These are not actual clones in my book o they wouldn't be on the channel, and the one I did show next to the asher I did not link because i know what happened 👊 ganzo knives will never be mistaken for the real thing

@kendrajones984

Жыл бұрын

The knife sharpening isn't free and in my opinion if you can't sharpen a knife you shouldn't own one. And Mr. Neeves you'll and most here are getting confused between clones and counterfeit products.

@jd4edc

Жыл бұрын

@@kendrajones984 that’s your opinion and your entitled to it but If a person wants to spend their money on a tool and then pay to have it professionally sharpened that’s their choice. I cannot comment on your clone statement, it isn’t really clear what your point is. 🤷🏻‍♂️

The Ganzo F7393 looks more like the Benchmade Presidio 2. The scaling is almost identical.

I world have loved to have seen the clones of the clones as well. On Aliexpress and ebay for around $5 you can get true garbage that looks like a PM2.

If anyone ever bought a Ganzo and thought it was a Lionsteel, Protek or Rat knife, it's not Ganzo's fault. There's not a better value knife on the market.

I also don't like design stealing, but your absolutely right Benchmade is pricing themselves out of the market with some of their prices. I knew Les when he was alive. I also don't like what happened with the gun thing that happened. Can't get into it here but if you want to know reach out. I have a load of Benchmades but have definitely slowed down on recent purchases. Great review Jerad.

@escapetherace1943

Жыл бұрын

lol I won't buy benchmade because of their political stunt(s) before that I wanted one. Was gonna buy one too they shot themselves in the foot, boycotted 4lyfe

Got me 3 ruike knives. Not bad at all. No idea how these Ganzo would fair but might try one

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly you might just like them more especially the in house designs, fh41, 922, 921

@Nick-lm5lz

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeevesKnives yeah, I am gonna get the 922 in orange

the clone of the lionsteel, is a "Harnds general" knife... is the same in D2

The problem with the paramilitary to stop him is that it's hollow. I had my first paramilitary to develop lock rock because the stop pin deformed. I ended up just rotating it and it was fine

This subject is part of a larger dilemma I face as a knife hobbyist with a very limited budget. While I do not knowingly buy clones, I do often buy cheaper options just to see if I like/use them first. If I like the knife, would I get enough value if I upgrading to a more expensive model? Sometimes this is an easy decision. Would a Grimsmo Norseman be superior enough to replace my Tangram Rumble? No, the Rumble is just that good. However, would the Twosun TS223 be good enough to replace my Civivi Naga? The blade shape is effectively the same, but the blade stock is thinner on the Naga. I took the chance and yes, the TS223 is well worth the extra expense.

@MmmGrayons

2 жыл бұрын

Those are different knives though. Similar designs but not direct copies of the designs with an axis lock slapped on them.

@mrblauer1

2 жыл бұрын

@Al dx Hmm, that is a good price. And I do want a right handed version so it maybe worth it. Very tempting.

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

The 223 is one of my favorite users, I could carry it every day

Jared, did you mean G720?

I'm telling you bro! as a commercial plumber in Madison, WI.. And an avid knife collector of niiice stuff, I fuck with ganzo for real, for a work beater you can't beat it! Clip fell off my rat2d2, that is the shit too!

@NeevesKnives

2 жыл бұрын

I have a sister not to far from you

BAAM!!!! GANZO ARE THE BEST FOR BEGINNER ON BUDGET PRICE...REALLLY BARGAIN CLONE

That was the reason why I bought the Ganzo instead of the Lionsteel SR1. 440C vs D2 but a difference of more than $100 in price? Hmmm, not a brainer.